“Demented:” Joy Behar disses homeschool students

By Michelle Malkin  •  November 19, 2008 09:55 PM

Joy Behar of “The View” has the IQ of a rotten tomato, the manners of an ass, the mouth of a street thug, and the chutzpah to declare that “a lot” of homeschooled children are “demented.”

I guess we should give thanks that she sits around a table kvetching with other liberal women for a living instead of doing what she did before Hollywood embraced her. That’s right: She was a…public school teacher.

Her bigoted remarks dissing homeschooling begin at around the 6:10 mark and climax at 7:10 with Behar showing her contempt for both homeschooled students and parents: “A lot of them are demented when they’re homeschooled.”

Right. Because they’re so much better off in public schools where “proper socialization” takes the form of ideological child abuse. Eh, Joy?

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  1. #101
    On November 20th, 2008 at 10:39 am, RedDog said:

    Remarkable that people like this have this kind of forum to spout their coarse and childish commentary to a gullible public. A clear illustration of the decline of public discourse, the intellectual competence of our citizens, and the professional malfeasance of the Press.

    If the major TV networks serve up this kind of product to the marketplace and the marketplace “buys” it that’s fine with me, but by extension, a “Fairness” (censorship) Doctrine must not be used to force politically targeted media to serve up financially unprofitable products that no one wants to buy (read: left-wing talk radio) for the purpose of political manipulation of public opinion.

    Note that Democrats and the Left in general have no problem supressing free speech when it challenges their hold on power. The real hypocrisy here is palpable. G_d forbid they should actually have to go beyond sophmoric rhetoric to provide a logical defense of their positions and arguments.

    Memo to the Left: This is why Consrvatives and Libertarians, the world over, view you as Stalinists. You know a tree by it’s fruit.

  2. #102
    On November 20th, 2008 at 10:43 am, englishqueen01 said:

    I’m on Joy’s side. Kids I knew in college that had been homeschooled were weirdos plain and simple, they couldn’t relate to other kids, no matter if they were liberal wackos or right wing nuts (and they are always one or the other).

    So, your experience trumps the right of parents to educate their children as they see fit?

    Wow - you’re right, you’re with Joy on this one.

    You’re both out of your freakin’ minds.

  3. #103
    On November 20th, 2008 at 10:43 am, jeanie said:

    I was in the public schools for 29 years so I am no stranger to that insitiution.After retirement I worked in the children’s section of a local public library. This placed me into the company of many, many home schooled children and their families. I carried away a most favorable impression of these kids and the dedication of their parents. I did not find these kids less well educated or narrower in their social development. Provided the choice of schooling climate and parenting skills are good, both options can work well. Home schooling can be a wonderful option for the right family.

  4. #104
    On November 20th, 2008 at 10:45 am, longbow said:

    Any institution that could turn out someone like Joy Behar should be avoided at all costs.

    From what I’ve seen home-schooled children are much better adjusted than many and even most of their public school counterparts in their demeanor and behavior. They just seem to be developing more a solid character and they know the difference between right and wrong and can explain things based on principles and logic and not just emotion. I’ll take home-schoolers who can think independently and who know why they believe what they believe, any day of the week!

  5. #105
    On November 20th, 2008 at 10:50 am, Paul Revere said:

    She’s a vile person.

  6. #106
    On November 20th, 2008 at 10:52 am, SoGood2BeMe said:

    We are a homeschool family and our kids are not “demented!” Our kids are incrediable kids who have been socialized in positive environments. Our children have attended field trips, science labs, music classes, etc… all with children of other homeschooling families.

    Because the socialization is purely positive, our kids tend to end up leaders and mentors. For instance, one of my sons is a state officer in the FFA and represents the 60,000+ members of our state. He travels the state with the other 5 officers making chapter visits and meeting with heads in the agriculture industry.

    His twin brother, who is presently 19, became a certified EMT at the age of 18, stands out above his peers in his chosen future career field, works 36+ hours a week for an ambulance company while taking 15 units at the junior college in Fire Science… He got accepted to the Fire Academy in January. They are both very well liked, well mannered, and respected by people of all ages. I attribute their successes to their homeschool years.

    My daughter who is eight has never attended public school, is already showing the same character qualities that her brothers do. In addition to working above her grade level, she plays violin with other homeschoolers, is in the string orchestra, and participates in other enhancement classes for homeschoolers…

    Joy! meet my kids… They are not “demented!”

  7. #107
    On November 20th, 2008 at 10:55 am, SoGood2BeMe said:

    Ooops! My kids are incredible not incrediable!

  8. #108
    On November 20th, 2008 at 11:05 am, Laree said:

    My phrase for the day “Natural Selection” I’m just saying….This 1st World of Ours, is getting in the way of what Nature, has a system for dealing with- The Survivial of the Fittest. Nature has a flush handle…I’m just saying, I think our drain is clogged.

  9. #109
    On November 20th, 2008 at 11:06 am, Laree said:

    Joy Behar could she survive without people enabling her? Think about it would she survive in say a 3rd world country?

  10. #110
    On November 20th, 2008 at 11:07 am, TXMarko said:

    Several of my cousins homeschool their kids. They are some of the brightest kids I have EVER met, not to mention polite and well-mannered.

    Their intelligence would put Behar to shame, that is, if she even knows the definition of the word.

  11. #111
    On November 20th, 2008 at 11:11 am, rightwingmom said:

    Behar - Classic ignorant liberal.

    I’ve wasted enough of my time.

    I have to return to teaching my “demented children”
    (who will be running this country, not ruining it)!!!

  12. #112
    On November 20th, 2008 at 11:28 am, Red State Skeptic said:

    So, your experience trumps the right of parents to educate their children as they see fit?

    They can do whatever they want. Of course there are lots of cases where the superior education you get trumps the social benefits of regular school.

  13. #113
    On November 20th, 2008 at 11:46 am, James Felix said:

    I don’t have any kids and I don’t know any homeschoolers.

    But…

    I know if I did have kids I’d feel no need to defend myself against the likes of Joy Behar. You homeschoolers should wear the scorn of someone so stupid and hateful as a badge of honor.

  14. #114
    On November 20th, 2008 at 11:47 am, rightwingmom said:

    RedState said

    social benefits of regular school.

    1. Socialism
    2. parents viewed as ignorant and “in the way”
    3. gang violence
    6. drug abuse
    6. rape ON CAMPUS
    7. principals changing failing grades to passing, against teacher’s professional opinion

    I can go on…of course this was just my experience as a former public school teacher.

  15. #115
    On November 20th, 2008 at 11:48 am, Socratease said:

    You have to understand that, to a liberal, anyone that doesn’t think like they do is “demented”. (Actually, Behar’s being kind because they’re children. Once they grow up, they’ll be “evil”.) To the extent that home schooling allows children to grow up without the liberal groupthink our public schools have been perverted to instill in students, her description is, by liberal standards, correct.

  16. #116
    On November 20th, 2008 at 11:49 am, PrestoPundit - Greg Ransom said:

    Give Joy a break. Lie is hell for ugly women.

  17. #117
    On November 20th, 2008 at 12:09 pm, Common Sense said:

    Is she going to say that to Will Smith? His kids have been homeschooled for years.

  18. #118
    On November 20th, 2008 at 12:21 pm, AlohaGuy said:

    That’s right: She was a…public school teacher.

    That explains it all.

    Larry King in a dress.

    Blamed hospital deaths on a lack of germs? And she thinks she’s smarter than Palin?

  19. #119
    On November 20th, 2008 at 12:45 pm, Mister P said:

    Since Behar is one of those individuals who is ALWAYS wrong, it says a lot for the parents of homeschoolers. Keep it up!

  20. #120
    On November 20th, 2008 at 1:18 pm, rightisright said:

    Joy Bewhore and her accompanying 3 dolts on the view wouldn’t know intelligence if it hit over the head. Yesterday I heard the replay on a radio program(Steve Malzbeg) of the view and their lack of knowledge, which does not go beyond racism. The old hag Whoppie is an idiot, in this case along with the rest of the panel. Her and that fat(oh, excuse me, weight challenged) dimwit Sherri Shepherd were discussing “suffrage”, claiming it was black people suffering from slavery. No one else on the panel bothered to step in and set ‘em straight on the definition of the word, including the pseudo conservative Elisabeth Hasselbeck.
    You can bet at least 3 of the 4 used their suffrage rights and voted for Odumbo…as that American philosopher “Walter”(the puppet says) “Dumb a$$e$.”
    If anyone watches that program they must lose iq points by the minute.

  21. #121
    On November 20th, 2008 at 1:20 pm, cheapseat said:

    those who can do, those who can’t,teach,those who can’t teach, teach gym, those who can’t teach gym administrate, and finally it appears those who can’t even administrate in the public school beaurocracy, go into daytime television and tell everyone how stupid they are.

  22. #122
    On November 20th, 2008 at 1:26 pm, rightisright said:

    On November 20th, 2008 at 11:05 am, Laree said:

    very good, verrrry good

  23. #123
    On November 20th, 2008 at 1:42 pm, TxSkirt said:

    Red State, are you basing your expert opinion on the one or two home schoolers you knew in college or on a hundred? Were they odd because they didn’t drink and party or sleep around? Did they do something really creepy like do their own laundry, attend all their classes and look forward to going home on weekends? You’re right, you’re with Joy on this one–your both wrong.

  24. #124
    On November 20th, 2008 at 1:53 pm, ladcraig said:

    As a homeschooling parent, I sometimes get that nagging feeling that my son is “missing out” on something. I will start second-guessing myself and wonder if we are making the right decision. But then I look at my little boy and see what a loving, well-mannered, thoughtful son I have. Would I have the same boy if he were in public school? Maybe, but I don’t think so.

  25. #125
    On November 20th, 2008 at 1:58 pm, frostrt said:

    On November 19th, 2008 at 11:59 pm, ITookTheRedPill said:

    They are against us, not for us, and they laugh at us when people buy stuff like this and this.

    ————————————–

    Man, that is WAY over the top. Kinda makes you think Obama’s supporters have some expectations he won’t be able to live up to, though, doesn’t it?

    People who thought he was the solution to everything are in for a rude awakening.

  26. #126
    On November 20th, 2008 at 2:43 pm, Paul said:

    How Beyhar thinks:

    home schooler = Christian evangelist
    Christian evangelist = demented

    Her anti Christian bigotry is unrestrained.

  27. #127
    On November 20th, 2008 at 2:49 pm, tuffy said:

    Demented is a good word for her. I would like to thank the demented Miss Behar for pointing it out.

    Who talks about kids like that? They’re kids not inmates!

  28. #128
    On November 20th, 2008 at 3:18 pm, The Ugly American said:

    Read about “demented” homeschool champions here.

    Yeah, the Scripps National Spelling Bee was the first thing that came to my mind.

  29. #129
    On November 20th, 2008 at 3:42 pm, PersonalLiberty said:

    Sorry, Joy, you’re an idiot.

    As a parent of five kids, three of whom are being homeschooled with two waiting to get out of diapers first, let me tell you and everybody listening that it’s the best thing my wife and I ever did for our family.

    Both of us were public school kids. By default, we were about to put your oldest daughter into public school for kindergarten. My wife looked at me one day before the time came and said, “I don’t feel right about this. I feel like I’m handing her over to the State to do whatever they want with her. I’m starting to think we should consider homeschooling.” So we did.

    All of our family, some of whom were public school teachers, thought we had lost it. We got LOTS of questions. “What about socialization?” being #1 on the list. Let me be blunt: one way or another, your kids will be “socialized.” The only question is, what will they be socialized to? Will they be socialized to socialist ideas, taught by the likes of Joy Bahar? Will they be socialized to their peer group, with all the crap that brings along?

    Our kids get socialized by having lots of interaction with their family. They learn what it’s like to take care of kids younger than they are, and to interact with kids older than they are. They regularly interact with adults of all ages, ethnicities, and job functions as they go about life, going to the store, going to the library, etc. They regularly meet with other kids in numerous activities, including field trips with homeschool groups, numerous sports leagues, dance classes, gymnastics classes, swimming classes, Cub Scouts, etc.

    As a result of this, I have kids that are the most well-adjusted, happy, mature kids I know other than all the other parents who homeschool that we also get together with.

    And it’s not just that they’re head-and-shoulders above the public school kids, they also blow away the private school kids. This was brought home to me when my son started Cub Scouts. We joined a pack that is affiliated with a nearby private school because my son had a friend who attends that school. After helping out with the den meetings, I can say that my son stood tall among his peers with how he carries himself. And this is a six-year-old we’re talking about here.

    Sorry for the long comment, but I just had to inject some reality into this discussion. The short of it is, Behar is a dope (we all knew that), but I have found a lot of misunderstanding of homeschooling even from conservative parents. Indeed, before we made the decision to do it, I would count myself among those who thought it strange.

    So, if you have kids, whether they have already started public/private school or not, seriously think about doing it at home. It’s a challenge, no doubt about it. It’ll require one parent to stay home, which can be a big sacrifice of income (I live in California, so I know this in spades). It will also test your patience on any given day. But it’s also the most rewarding thing in the world.

    Simply put: do it!

  30. #130
    On November 20th, 2008 at 4:21 pm, DanGrantTx said:

    Having practiced medicine for over 20 years, my advice to Joy Behar is to seek out a good surgeon to perform a radical rectocraniotomy. In other words, get her head out of her butt.

  31. #131
    On November 20th, 2008 at 4:24 pm, missykat16 said:

    As a former homeschooled student, I can say that I, along with my brother and sister, are definitely not demented. My mother (a public school teacher) decided when my sister was born that her children would never go to public school, and we never did. I am in college now, and I am so thankful for the things that being homeschooled taught me. I didn’t just learn things, I learned HOW to learn. That is the best part of homeschooling. If you want to know something, you go to the library or get on the internet and find it out. And the whole socialization deficit is a lie. It is far more beneficial to learn how to interact with people who are older and younger than you than to interact with your exact peers, since those who aren’t the same age make up the majority of people you will have to deal with the rest of your life. But people like Ms. Behar like to ignore the majority of homeschooled students who are smart, well-mannered, and well-adjusted, and focus on the fringe minority who are just plain weird.

  32. #132
    On November 20th, 2008 at 4:46 pm, 7thson said:

    Hey Gang, long time no read,

    My wife and I have been gone a month in Ukraine (a vision of the future US and it ain’t good) adopting an orphan to add to our demented gang of misfit homeschoolers.

    We learned a long time ago that “socialization” is codespeak for “listen to your teachers and fellow students who are so much wiser than your stupid parents”. The results of homeschooling speak for themselves: my kids love and respect my wife and me, they have faith and believe in the God of the Bible, they treat each other with kindness, and they test at or above their grade levels every year.

  33. #133
    On November 20th, 2008 at 6:25 pm, Republicanvet said:

    On November 20th, 2008 at 4:46 pm, 7thson said:

    My wife and I have been gone a month in Ukraine (a vision of the future US and it ain’t good) adopting an orphan to add to our demented gang of misfit homeschoolers.

    My wife and I did the same, but from Russia. An experience of a lifetime, and a beautiful daughter to boot.

    Both her and my son have been home schooled, after my son tried kindergarten and first grade in the public school. Kindergarten was great for him and he really liked it, but hated first grade because the teacher didn’t care and the classroom was chaos.

    Chaos, not from what he said, but from what both my wife and I experienced first hand. When I first walked in, kids were running and yelling everywhere while the teacher sat at her desk reading a romance novel. My son was sitting at his desk trying to work. When I went to her desk, she looked up and rolled her eyes thinking I was another upset parent coming to complain.

    Long story short, we pulled him out and have been homeschooling since. The school never bothered to ask why, and likely never cared since they would still receive my tax dollars so some lazy teacher can read romance novels.

    As for adopting, the irritating part of it was when some lefty social services type came to inspect our home to determine if we were fit parents.

    I wanted to fit a foot somewhere….

  34. #134
    On November 20th, 2008 at 8:45 pm, Grey Fox said:

    Well, I was homeschooled, and I AM demented. Slightly autistic, as it turns out, though I wasn’t diagnosed until after I finished college. I would still be demented if I had gone to a traditional school, of course, and being homeschooled as part of a large family allowed me to learn to fit into society a whole lot better than if I had been stuck in a classroom all my life. I shudder to think what I might be like - probably end up shooting my classmates or something. As it is, I have passed, and still do, as normal if slightly eccentric.

    As homeschoolers, we always felt we were slipping if our annual achievement test scores weren’t at least a year ahead of the public school average. Says something right there…

  35. #135
    On November 20th, 2008 at 11:52 pm, erikwhittington said:

    My home-schooled kids are going to eat your public schooled kids for lunch, ha

  36. #136
    On November 21st, 2008 at 6:55 am, Tuesday said:

    Must be the only “Joy” in her life is her name!

  37. #137
    On November 21st, 2008 at 7:02 am, Jamson64 said:

    Behar is just plain ugly…. and she isn’t very good looking either.

  38. #138
    On November 21st, 2008 at 8:31 am, misterbee241 said:

    We have quite a few home schooled kids at my church. They are among the brightest and smartest kids I know.

  39. #139
    On November 21st, 2008 at 9:32 am, farmgal said:

    All 5 of our kiddo’s are homeschooled.Our 2 oldest were in public school for a couple of years,but were promptly pulled out when they started pushing ritalin and were going to start reading Heather has 2 mommies to the kids.My oldest son is employed and on the new hire list for the Shipyard to work as an electrician and our 2nd son is an MP in the Army.Our other 3 kiddo’s are Epileptic and I could not imagine sending them to school with seizures.Our kids are not weird and they are also not peer dependant.They get along with people of all age groups and respect and love God and their family.They understand the founding of this great country and know The Constitution and The Declaration of Independance.

  40. #140
    On November 21st, 2008 at 3:02 pm, RetFireman said:

    “A lot of them are demented when they’re homeschooled.”

    And she bases this on what? Where are the reports? Where is the research? How did she come to this conclusion?

    And how can she be considered relatively harmless? There are countless women out there with nothing to do but watch this fright-fest day after day, and after watching what happened this November, it is safe to assume a vast majority of them are easily swayed and manipulated by just this type of person. How else can anyone explain how an anti-Americanism, anti-Constitution, racist, bigotted, Socialist, anti-Capitalism, anti-accomplishment human like Barack Hussein Obama could even run for President of the United States, let alone win?

  41. #141
    On November 23rd, 2008 at 3:35 am, Mark Jaquith said:

    I was home schooled. I know what she’s talking about. My brothers and I called them “homely schoolers” because of their rather unstylish appearance. But I wouldn’t call them “demented,” and they certainly weren’t the majority. More than anything they reflected their parents. Socially awkward parents tended to raise socially awkward kids. Likewise, if Joy had homeschooled her children, they’d likely be loud and obnoxious. Home schooled kids reflect their parents more than other kids, because they spend more time with them.

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