GOP bailout stooge to Cavuto: “It’s not your money”

By Michelle Malkin  •  November 19, 2008 05:30 AM

Behold the hubris of an entrenched Republican congressman shilling for the auto bailout. His name is Rep. Joe Knollenberg (R-Michigan) and you’ll be happy to know that he lost his re-election bid.

Attention, Republicans obsessed with “re-branding” the party and crafting appealing messages to win back voters. Here’s your textbook example of how not to act and what not to say if you want to restore credibility to conservatism:

(Hat tip – Jim Vicevich)

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  1. #1
    On November 19th, 2008 at 5:42 am, alexwest said:

    Wow.

    Blinding arrogance and hypocrisy. No wonder the GOP is getting wiped out.

  2. #2
    On November 19th, 2008 at 5:42 am, zombywolf said:

    This stuff really scares me. If we prop up Detroit and the Union–what will we actually owe. President elect Obama is already indebted to the Unions–and add to that he plans to force his environmental agenda reccession/depression or not. His presidency will have a vested interest in the Big American Car makers not going under in spit of their bailout. Will a President Obama force us to buy these new green cars that haven’t been invented yet. Or maybe I’m just babbling

  3. #3
    On November 19th, 2008 at 5:44 am, zombywolf said:

    spit would be spite

  4. #4
    On November 19th, 2008 at 5:45 am, Dandapani said:

    If the GOV prints money, then it’s not our money, but theirs. LOL.

  5. #5
    On November 19th, 2008 at 5:57 am, RabbidSquirrel said:

    They. Just. Dont. Get. It.

    No Bailouts! Let them ALL fail and cart the executives and contract negotiators away! Thats why we have bankruptcy courts and the Justice Department to sort the mess out.

    Its amazing how much clearer one can think after someone slaps a 2×4 upside your head.

  6. #6
    On November 19th, 2008 at 6:03 am, ChrisFromGermany said:

    It actually is not your money. At least not anymore!

    The death of fiscal conservatism…

  7. #7
    On November 19th, 2008 at 6:19 am, Insomniac said:

    On November 19th, 2008 at 5:44 am, zombywolf said:
    spit would be spite

    No, I think “spit” is quite appropriate in this context…

  8. #8
    On November 19th, 2008 at 6:21 am, Insomniac said:

    Oh, and Knollenberg, it is OUR MONEY, you arrogant dolt.

  9. #9
    On November 19th, 2008 at 6:36 am, TMoney said:

    If it’s not mine, then it’s not his either. I’m sure he won’t mind sending us each a ten-spot.
    What’s this a$$hole’s phone and address?

  10. #10
    On November 19th, 2008 at 6:48 am, txvet2 said:

    Any bets he ends up working for some lobbyist?

  11. #11
    On November 19th, 2008 at 6:57 am, zorro said:

    What a dumb-bell! Unbelievable!

    Again, good riddance Joe.

  12. #12
    On November 19th, 2008 at 7:21 am, FruNobulux said:

    Awww, crap. Why do I feel so discouraged when I hear this kind of nonsense from representatives of the Party of Reagan? I think the apes truly are taking over the planet. At least they are this country — they’re firmly in control elsewhere, and we’re following them back into the trees.

  13. #13
    On November 19th, 2008 at 7:23 am, conservativesRus said:

    On November 19th, 2008 at 5:57 am, RabbidSquirrel said:
    Thats why we have bankruptcy courts and the Justice Department to sort the mess out.

    Trouble is – the bankruptcy courts and the justice dept are filled with the same incompetent folks with socialist views as the rest of the gov’t.
    Most bankruptcy judges think that somehow the lender (still being solvent) somehow “owes” the debtor some leniency and that the lender won’t be hurt by the non-payment of the debt. Most dept of justice folks are people there “to do good”. I’d much rather the dept of justice folk would be there to worry about “JUSTICE” rather than their version of “good”.

  14. #14
    On November 19th, 2008 at 7:24 am, jjmurphy said:

    After he said it wasn’t our money anything else he said was irrelevant.For a republican, even on from Michigan, to say those words is mind-blowing. Someone give him a copy of Davy Crockett’s “Not Yours TO Give”.

    I’m glad he’s gone in two months.

  15. #15
    On November 19th, 2008 at 7:31 am, Craig said:

    …restore credibility to conservatism

    Save for a few, the GOP is now officially Democrat-Lite.

    They wouldn’t know conservative principles if it hit them in their Ford Navigators.

  16. #16
    On November 19th, 2008 at 7:33 am, rambler said:

    No wonder both parties like spending like there’s no tomorrow.

  17. #17
    On November 19th, 2008 at 7:39 am, Socky said:

    Anyone else offended by this story? White Community Adapts to Obama reality. More condescending crap from Reuters on how racist white Americans are coping with the horror of a non-white president.

    Strangely, no media outlets were concerned about racism when a black man lost a bid for the senate from Maryland in 2006.

  18. #18
    On November 19th, 2008 at 7:44 am, tarpon said:

    IO guess the country belongs to Congress, as well as all the money.

    I guess the sky isn’t falling since Paulson hasn’t spent the $700 B. Lie to me once, shame on you, lie again, shame on me. Let GM go broke, who wants their cars anyway.

  19. #19
    On November 19th, 2008 at 7:49 am, MarcoPolo said:

    No credit to give? That’s just a lie! We’re looking at cars, and none of the dealers has had any trouble getting us approved for a loan.

  20. #20
    On November 19th, 2008 at 7:56 am, Mercy4Me said:

    Hang him out to be flogged.

  21. #21
    On November 19th, 2008 at 8:02 am, FamilyMan said:

    HEY FOLKS
    Does anyone have a list of the Republicans that are keepers? We need to shame the dregs out of the party and help those who are true Constitutionalist.

  22. #22
    On November 19th, 2008 at 8:06 am, bengals9 said:

    On November 19th, 2008 at 7:49 am, MarcoPolo said:

    No credit to give? That’s just a lie! We’re looking at cars, and none of the dealers has had any trouble getting us approved for a loan.

    I’m not aware of anybody having problems getting money, either…not for a house…not for a car, etc. etc. It’s probably helped, also, by the fact that those who SHOULDN’T be borrowing money have likely been scared off by all the commotion.

  23. #23
    On November 19th, 2008 at 8:06 am, MarcoPolo said:

    Another Cavuto epiphany: “We’re Not Paying!”

    http://www.foxbusiness.com/video/index.html?playerId=videolandingpage&streamingFormat=FLASH&referralObject=3207499&referralPlaylistId=1292d14d0e3afdcf0b31500afefb92724c08f046

    But of course we will. They will get their money by printing it, and we pay it through inflation.

  24. #24
    On November 19th, 2008 at 8:07 am, FamilyMan said:

    , Socky said:
    Anyone else offended by this story?

    YES. My question is what “racial tensions”?????

  25. #25
    On November 19th, 2008 at 8:07 am, bloghooligan said:

    “GM has 7 cars that get over 30mpg, Toyota can’t even say that”

    uhh, doesn’t this statement tell you something??? it clearly means that mpg is NOT a key deciding factor in car buying. GM not only makes horrendous cars, but they’re overpriced for what you get.

    anyway, i’d be for giving GM and the others a bailout, if they’d fire the unions.

  26. #26
    On November 19th, 2008 at 8:08 am, MarcoPolo said:

    HEY FOLKS
    Does anyone have a list of the Republicans that are keepers? We need to shame the dregs out of the party and help those who are true Constitutionalist.

    I believe that would be Ron Paul. :)

    These days, my only point of reference is the bailout. If you voted for the bailout, I am mad that you were reelected.

  27. #27
    On November 19th, 2008 at 8:11 am, bengals9 said:

    On November 19th, 2008 at 8:07 am, bloghooligan said:

    anyway, i’d be for giving GM and the others a bailout, if they’d fire the unions.

    PREACH IT, my brother! When you have a company like GM that spends more per car on employee health care benefits than they spend on STEEL, that’s a real problem!

    I drive a Honda Odyssey. Made in Alabama by non-union labor. I consider it to be as much of an American car as the Fords, Chevys and Chryslers that come from Michi-stan!

  28. #28
    On November 19th, 2008 at 8:16 am, mholland1 said:

    Peggy the Moocher was right….we won’t have to worry about putting gas in our tanks or paying for our mortgages…..

  29. #29
    On November 19th, 2008 at 8:19 am, cms405 said:

    Funny, I was passively listening to this guy yesterday and thought he was a Democrat. Not to mention he was the follow-up to Maxine Waters.

  30. #30
    On November 19th, 2008 at 8:22 am, CantCureStupid said:

    Good riddance to this arrogant clueless SOB. It’s not our money?

    Pay attention folks… every single bailout whore in DC has that attitude. This tool just stepped on himself and said it out loud.

  31. #31
    On November 19th, 2008 at 8:26 am, bilgerat said:

    No credit available?? That’s funny, just yesterday my spouse and I were approved for an equity mortgage to do some major home renovations….

    Not Our Money????? Is this imbecile for real?????? My blood pressure skyrocketed after seeing that video!!!!

  32. #32
    On November 19th, 2008 at 8:27 am, WrathOfKhan said:

    Time for true conservatives to support the Libertarian Party.

  33. #33
    On November 19th, 2008 at 8:30 am, madmonkphotog said:

    Yesterday morning, GM sent me an email stating that the bailout they asked for is a “myth”. The email stated it was a “request” to pay back “outstanding loans”.

    Why would GM make loans to the feds?

    They’ve yet to send me an email offering incentives on a new purchase. Hence, they’re not attempting to move product – they’re only trying to get money to make commercials to tell me to buy the same old products.

    So long, GM.

  34. #34
    On November 19th, 2008 at 8:32 am, tre said:

    As Vladimire Putin said,”Hang him up by his *****!”

  35. #35
    On November 19th, 2008 at 8:39 am, orlandocajun said:

    He’s right about one thing…it’s not our money…It’s our grandchildren’s money. This idiot is a classic example of a textbook RINO. Thankfully, he won’t be in Congress anymore.

    They’re trying again to scare the American people into thinking that the entire US economy will tank without the US auto industry in Michigan. Filing bankruptcy won’t affect any auto dealer anymore than they’re already been affected. If anything, re-structuring the big three in the long run will help auto dealers. Eventually, they’ll be able to offer more competitive cars to the market.

  36. #36
    On November 19th, 2008 at 8:41 am, crashemt said:

    I do hereby swear this oath:

    Should the “big 3″ US car dealerships receive a “loan” from the American people For any amount of money-

    I will end my financial, moral, and spiritual support of those industries, their suppliers, their employees, and their retirees. FOREVER

    I will not purchase their products, I will not visit their dealerships or stores, I will not accept their ads or incentives, and I will work diligently to ensure that their current and former employees die upon the union sword upon which they have lived by barring them from receiving one penny of government welfare.

    If these companies refuse to do their jobs, make the cuts, and take care of themselves; then it is our responsibility as Americans and market consumers to end them.

    And this I swear I will do.

  37. #37
    On November 19th, 2008 at 8:42 am, RedDog said:

    Note that most if not all of the Republican incumbents who lost were RINO or borderline. I call this a cleansing…

    Not to belabor the point, but Conservatives have been sounding this alarm about lib Republicans for 30 years. The quiche eating country club Republicans have been undermining Conservatism forever. They are dead albatrosses. We need to instruct them that this is not their party anymore. They need to retire or turn Democrat – formally.

  38. #38
    On November 19th, 2008 at 8:43 am, glockomatic said:

    “It’s not your money.” That attitude pretty much sums up what’s wrong with Washington across the board.

  39. #39
    On November 19th, 2008 at 8:44 am, sonofdy said:

    Well its not really our money since they just printed it.

  40. #40
    On November 19th, 2008 at 8:47 am, ArizonaNeanderthal said:

    Good bye former Congressman Knollenberg-you will not be missed. Our 401, IRAs and Capital Gains are not ours either! And that cushy office in the Capitol isn’t yours anymore.
    RINO season is now open-but be polite about it and hold the door for them.

  41. #41
    On November 19th, 2008 at 8:51 am, ArizonaNeanderthal said:

    OBAMA INAUGURAL COULD BANKRUPT DC

    I am sure they will want a bailout too. Perhaps Rep. Joe Knollenberg (R-Michigan) can get a job picking up litter after the parade.

  42. #42
    On November 19th, 2008 at 8:56 am, Bicyea said:

    “It’s not your money”

    Isn’t that what the crack-head says after he sticks a gun in your face and robs you!

  43. #43
    On November 19th, 2008 at 8:58 am, FamilyMan said:

    MarcoPolo said:
    true Constitutionalist.
    I believe that would be Ron Paul.

    Yes, I also like what he has to say but he doesn’t have that popular appeal that will bring real change. We need to work reforming the Republican party.

  44. #44
    On November 19th, 2008 at 8:59 am, DirkBelig said:

    Knollenberg was my rep and was taken down by a George Soros-backed Dem. Seeing this, as bad as having another Soros puppet on the Hill may be, this tool didn’t deserve to retain his seat.

    Why is the Stupid Party stupid and dying? Because WE, THE PEOPLE, are smart and put principles over politics and refuse to support the losers even though the alternatives are worse. Being the lesser evil is not a positive attribute.

  45. #45
    On November 19th, 2008 at 8:59 am, Trollman said:

    I have to say, I am liking this Neil Cavuto guy more and more lately. “It is my money!”

  46. #46
    On November 19th, 2008 at 9:04 am, pueblo1032 said:

    Was sitting at the dining table, watching CAVUTO yesterday… Wife in kitchen putting away goods from trip to store… Heard “it’s not your money” come out of TV… Both of us, at same time, WHAT DID HE SAY??? Did we hear that right??? Amazing the arrogance of this CLOWN… A REPUBLICAN CLOWN at that… Government creates NOTHING!!! They are there to TAX and make RULES… With attitudes like this, it is no surprise the CRAP SANDWICH MENTALITY is so pervasive in WASHINGTON DC… No wonder the GOVERNMENT SECTOR was the only area to record an increase in employment figures for the last month reported… All other SECTORS had a LOSS of JOBS reported… No wonder INDEED…

  47. #47
    On November 19th, 2008 at 9:20 am, DBNinKY said:

    Behold the hubris of an entrenched Republican congressman shilling for the auto bailout.

    I really don’t think things are as they appear.

    To me, Rep. Knollenberg’s outrageous statement was meant to drive home to voters the need for Republican majorities in 2010, by underscoring the mindset of the House and senate in general, and the fiscal irresponsibility they represent under complete Democrat control.

  48. #48
    On November 19th, 2008 at 9:32 am, NJ-Aviator said:

    Neil seems to have his principles anchored firmly in what’s right.

    That idiot soon-to-be ex-congressman is what’s wrong with our government.

  49. #49
    On November 19th, 2008 at 9:34 am, rooster said:

    And this is an alleged republican saying it is not our money! Imagine how the marxist odumbo and his minions in the jack-ass party think about our money!

  50. #50
    On November 19th, 2008 at 9:34 am, Send_Me said:

    On November 19th, 2008 at 7:24 am, jjmurphy said:

    Good speech.
    If Congress does bail out the automakers, then by gosh we need to get the De Lorean Motor Company back in action. The dire straits we have been in without them…
    /sarc

  51. #51
    On November 19th, 2008 at 9:34 am, bilgerat said:

    In the NY Slime online today, Mitt Romney has an op-ed piece regarding the Big 3 bailout. Excellent piece, makes a lot of sense.

    Mitt is totally against the bailout.

    What a shame we got stuck with McSame….

  52. #52
    On November 19th, 2008 at 9:36 am, cngerms said:

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  53. #53
    On November 19th, 2008 at 9:37 am, Paul Revere said:

    Freaky-deaky scary.

  54. #54
    On November 19th, 2008 at 9:41 am, Simon86 said:

    He’s from Michigan and wants money to keep is constituents in jobs.
    Funny that he’s pressing for them since they voted him out.

  55. #55
    On November 19th, 2008 at 9:42 am, Micheleeroo said:

    It sure FELT like my money when I wrote that quarterly tax deposit check!

  56. #56
    On November 19th, 2008 at 9:45 am, katablog said:

    I’m delighted to hear that it’s not my money! After all, if it’s not my money they are giving away, then it’s not my debt they are creating – right?

  57. #57
    On November 19th, 2008 at 9:45 am, DaveC said:

    Sad thing is he has retirement for life thanks to congress.

  58. #58
    On November 19th, 2008 at 9:47 am, DaveC said:

    Can I have some of that ‘not my money’?

    then I can pay off part of what is ‘not my debt’ on some ‘not my credit cards’ and ‘not my car payment’.

  59. #59
    On November 19th, 2008 at 9:48 am, dan708 said:

    Unfortunately, this guy is right; it WAS our money but not anymore. Welcome to the USASR, Comrades!

  60. #60
    On November 19th, 2008 at 9:53 am, DaveC said:

    if the Government really wanted to save the Big Three..

    they would roll back the cafe standards on all cars and trucks.

    force the UAW to sit at the table and re-negotiate their contract and get rid of rubber rooms and other ridiculous perks they get..

    and that would be just for starters.

  61. #61
    On November 19th, 2008 at 9:57 am, DannoJyd said:

    Such are the death throes of a RINO.

    He won’t be missed by conservatives, yet his loss will make it harder for BHO to accumulate any evidence of bipartianship.

    BTW, where is the obligatory BHO on Affirmative Action? From the looks of his hirings so far I guess his administration is immune to such ideals. :o P

  62. #62
    On November 19th, 2008 at 10:00 am, happy2behere said:

    Not our money? Just try not paying your taxes and see what brain damage the FEDs can do to you.

    And MY money is now worth much less thanks to the government printning more ot it for themselves.

  63. #63
    On November 19th, 2008 at 10:02 am, ironman said:

    After hearing Maxine Waters defend the bailouts like it was a civil rights issue and then this clown saying “It’s not your money”,I guess that is how the Politburo in Washington tries to justify the big spending…..

    “Silence plebes,it’s OUR money to spend as WE see fit…you’ll pay and you’ll LIKE it,PEASANTS!!!”

  64. #64
    On November 19th, 2008 at 10:02 am, On-my-soap-box said:

    My paycheck in not my money either. Congress lets me keep a little to make me feel like it is. Is “Tax Free Day” in November yet?

  65. #65
    On November 19th, 2008 at 10:07 am, FamilyMan said:

    Bill Clinton said;
    “all money comes from the government”
    Did he intended to say printed, or does he have something else in mind?

  66. #66
    On November 19th, 2008 at 10:09 am, Little Ma said:

    MarcoPolo, at 8:08 am, said: “These days, my only point of reference is the bailout. If you voted for the bailout, I am mad that you were reelected.”

    My sentiments exactly, Marco. Case in point: Senator Saxby Chambliss, R, Georgia. A lot of us told him if he voted for the Bailout we wouldn’t vote for him. He ignored his constituents. Guess he thought his reelection would be a cake walk, but now he’s in a runoff with the Dem. candidate.

    He’s had every big shot Republican in the country attending rallies to support him. I get emails from his campaign org., begging for my help, financial support, and prayers. HAH!!!!!

  67. #67
    On November 19th, 2008 at 10:12 am, flaming_o said:

    It’s a shame someone like this can’t be removed from office retroactively. He’s insane. He’s just insane.

  68. #68
    On November 19th, 2008 at 10:16 am, sandyb said:

    RedDog said:
    Note that most if not all of the Republican incumbents who lost were RINO or borderline. I call this a cleansing…

    Not to belabor the point, but Conservatives have been sounding this alarm about lib Republicans for 30 years. The quiche eating country club Republicans have been undermining Conservatism forever. They are dead albatrosses. We need to instruct them that this is not their party anymore. They need to retire or turn Democrat – formally.

    My sentiments exactly, but how do we clear away the dead wood if all the entrenched “leaders” at the RNC are RINO and don’t offer to go? Who fires them? Who hires them? Michelle, do you know?

    OT, I see where Juan McSame is forming his “exploratory committee” (Snort) to get ready for his next campaign. Somebody in AZ, PLEASE run as a conservative. Joe Arpaio would run away with it, but he says he’s already got his dream job!

  69. #69
    On November 19th, 2008 at 10:20 am, sandyb said:

    OBAMA INAUGURAL COULD BANKRUPT DC

    Why can’t George Sorea$$ pick up the tab? He’s the one that paid the freight to get Capt. Big Ears there.

  70. #70
    On November 19th, 2008 at 10:23 am, sandyb said:

    FamilyMan said:
    MarcoPolo said:
    true Constitutionalist.
    I believe that would be Ron Paul.
    Yes, I also like what he has to say but he doesn’t have that popular appeal that will bring real change. We need to work reforming the Republican party.

    I agree with you for the most part on his appeal, but how did he manage to get the rabid devotion (of young people, esp.) and a million $$ in record time on the internet if he doesn’t have something?

  71. #71
    On November 19th, 2008 at 10:26 am, maisy said:

    It IS their printing press…isn’t it???

  72. #72
    On November 19th, 2008 at 10:27 am, genso said:

    Meanwhile…Sessions, DeMint, Shelby, and Corker are showing themselves worthy of support in this bailout crap.

  73. #73
    On November 19th, 2008 at 10:34 am, WarEagle82 said:

    Well, whose money is it? It isn’t YOUR money, Congressman Moron! Cavuto should have ushered this moron off the set at that point.

    Clowns like Knollenberg just got added to my “Pantheon of Ignoramuses” “leading” the GOP to destruction.

  74. #74
    On November 19th, 2008 at 10:38 am, ironman said:

    They can print money til the cows come home…trillions,even quadrillions of dollars if they want,but it will always inevitably fall on the taxpayers to pick up the tab.It’s going to be interesting(read:scary as hell!)to see how the tax laws will be restructured and enforced when the time comes to pay the bill!

  75. #75
    On November 19th, 2008 at 10:39 am, Hollands_Opus said:

    To former fellow republicans:

    “You finally did it..you blew it up…Awwwwww damn you, damn you all to hell”

  76. #76
    On November 19th, 2008 at 10:43 am, southsideironworks said:

    They’re way past spending our money, they’re spending money that doesn’t even exist!

  77. #77
    On November 19th, 2008 at 10:43 am, Brian72 said:

    Ron Paul is too close to the 9-11 truther people. He flirts with the Alex Jones crowd. That by itself is my reason to never, ever support him for anything.

    Besides that, he’s a little whiny weasel of a man who gets on my nerves whenever he opens his mouth. He may be right on some issues, but as a candidate he was never more that a novelty.

  78. #78
    On November 19th, 2008 at 10:44 am, sandyb said:

    Cavuto is the only guy with guts and class on FOX these days. I’ve watched him for years and think he’s the real deal. He also really likes MM and interviews her a lot!

    You had to have a strong stomach to watch yesterday’s show though. First, we had Maxine “We should nationalize the oil companies” Waters on vehemently proclaiming that bailout money should go to “folks in foreclosure who were lured by ‘exotic products.’”

    No matter what Cavute said to her, she had her talking point and stuck with it. When he asked her what was to stop responsible homeowners from defaulting on their loans since everyone else is getting a bailout, she angrily replied that that was nonsense and that “people would never game the system like that.” Priceless.

  79. #79
    On November 19th, 2008 at 10:50 am, Brian72 said:

    On November 19th, 2008 at 10:44 am, sandyb said:

    “people would never game the system like that.” Priceless.

    Maxine Waters and most of her district have been making a living gaming the system for all they could get for decades. If you dare call them on it, you get a furious race card thrown at you. See the Fannie/Freddie hearings for how they’ve done it.

  80. #80
    On November 19th, 2008 at 11:00 am, CantCureStupid said:

    On November 19th, 2008 at 10:50 am, Brian72 said:
    Maxine Waters and most of her district have been making a living gaming the system for all they could get for decades. If you dare call them on it, you get a furious race card thrown at you.

    The race card’s once-razor-sharp edge is now as dull as a wooden spoon. Maxine Waters is a pimp.

  81. #81
    On November 19th, 2008 at 11:12 am, RabbidSquirrel said:

    I bought Nissans for more that 15 years and just went back to an American vehicle this year. Even though I dont really want to, maybe I need to seriously think through my decision, get rid of this one and buy Foreign owned-Southern built vehicles.

  82. #82
    On November 19th, 2008 at 11:27 am, MarcoPolo said:

    I agree with you for the most part on his appeal, but how did he manage to get the rabid devotion (of young people, esp.) and a million $$ in record time on the internet if he doesn’t have something?

    He actually brought a ton of young people into the GOP by talking about economics. But while he’s not Presidential material, he has shown the ability to bring people in from the left as well as the far right. It would be nice to see somebody, maybe Sanford, to turn that fervor into a viable candidacy.

    I think you just have to ignore the truthers. And it’s hard, because they always want to put their own bizarro agenda in the forefront.

    But even I don’t agree with every platform plank of the GOP, but I still manage to work alongside people who consider those same planks their key issue.

    I got to know a lot of Ron Paulers during the primaries, because in Illinois they were essentially the only active Republican factions. I don’t think they are as horrid as everybody made them out to be.

    Foreign policy seemed to be the chasm that couldn’t be gapped, but I think that will change after 4 years of Obama. Some of the young ‘uns will go back to the LP and the Constitution Party, especially if the GOP doesn’t extend an olive branch, but some of them will grow up and stick around too.

  83. #83
    On November 19th, 2008 at 11:39 am, reshas1 said:
  84. #84
    On November 19th, 2008 at 12:03 pm, brad_sk said:

    Check out Romney correct saying no bailout for Detroit…

    http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/11/19/romney-let-detroit-go-bankrupt/

    Still some big name conservatives out there then

  85. #85
    On November 19th, 2008 at 12:08 pm, Southpaw said:

    On November 19th, 2008 at 10:44 am, sandyb said:
    Maxine Waters: “people would never game the system like that.”

    Would someone please come and help me. I’m rolling on the floor laughing and I can’t stop.

  86. #86
    On November 19th, 2008 at 12:15 pm, brad_sk said:

    BTW check out this nice cartoon on Detroit car maker’s attitude
    http://themoderatevoice.com/society/business/corporations/24454/carmaker-lament/

  87. #87
    On November 19th, 2008 at 12:18 pm, AlohaGuy said:

    The race card’s once-razor-sharp edge is now as dull as a wooden spoon. Maxine Waters is a pimp.

    This is the upside of Obama’s win. The whole race-card pimping industry just went flat, so now they are into “those poor people will be out of work” pimping. Never mind that UAW members make more than average people who slap tires on cars…

  88. #88
    On November 19th, 2008 at 12:31 pm, Ahh a Lion! said:

    Speaking of Ron Paul, he had the trifecta on TV yesterday after the financial services committee hearing with Hanky-Panky Paulson and Buck-Busting Ben. Links below:
    Financial Service Statement
    FOX Business News
    CNN Annoying Lady

    I wish Malkin would add Paul to her list of true fiscal conservatives. He sure as hell inspired me to learn about our corrupt and unsustainable financial system. Plus, with Obama set to pursue the same policies toward the Mid-East, the GOP needs people like Paul, his message, and his acolytes.

  89. #89
    On November 19th, 2008 at 12:49 pm, davidleerothmann said:

    I just read one of those MSM “heartstring tuggers” about how the GM plant closing in Dayton is going to ruin lives and how mean we all are for not wanting to bail these good folks out. CNN wants to let me know what a hardship it is that the suppliers workers, because they aren’t UAW represented won’t be getting buyouts of 140 grand like UAW workers receive. Huh? HS education, tighten a bolt all day, 140 grand job buyout? I have a Masters Degree, and have been laid off twice in my career. Two weeks severance was the best deal I ever got. Why do these union morons think they deserve more money than most people will ever see in a lifetime just because the company no longer needs their services? Better question is why in God’s name are we expected to work our own jobs, pay for our own homes, send our kids to school, AND pay taxes to line the union thugs pockets?

  90. #90
    On November 19th, 2008 at 12:57 pm, K2 said:

    Here’s what our automakers could do here if — they can rid themselves of the union deals of paying people for not working (lost job due to innovation employees are paid at 80% for NOT working), renegotiate retirement packages, and reduce dealerships (6,000 GM dealers vs 1,700 Toyota dealers).

    http://info.detnews.com/video/index.cfm?id=1189

  91. #91
    On November 19th, 2008 at 1:23 pm, By Choice said:

    “Its not Your Money” is the same logic that Pelousy spewed at the on set of this debacle stating that sometimes the House has to do the “hard things” that the little people don’t understand. The only thing these guys have proved is that THEY do not have a clue about our economic system, how and why it works and that the bailout is the biggest boondoggle EVER perpurtrated on the American People.

    So why the HELL did these YOKLEs get voted back in?? Can anyone give me a viable reasonable explaination for that trick???

  92. #92
    On November 19th, 2008 at 1:28 pm, rambler said:

    The bailout is to repay the unions for delivering votes.

  93. #93
    On November 19th, 2008 at 2:10 pm, 4gotnblud said:

    Can anyone layout the endgame of these political gurus? We know that they are trying to ensure their cronies (AIG, China, Goldmans, ect.) don’t lose and eventually come out of this enriched. We know that the political hacks (Gorelick, Franklin Johnson, ect.) who have profited from destroying FM/FM will never see investigation. How are they going to restore any sembleance of our prior economy (or do they want to?) when so many consumers will have credit scores under 500 due to the foreclosures and repos that have and will occur? Credit is available to those responsible consumers that are not affected by this mess but how are the others going to continue their conspicuous (reckless) consumption that has been powering this “global” economy? They is already a push for international bodies to supervise this recovery. It seems we are almost ripe for an appeal for a North American Union to solve all our problems. They have almost managed to get our currency values equal to Mexico’s so look to further economic erosion before they hit us with the NAU!

  94. #94
    On November 19th, 2008 at 3:45 pm, reshas1 said:

    If we give the big 3 a handout and the unions get it… We will be funding the Dem’s next election cycle.. ARGGHHHHHHHHHH

    http://www.conservativeusa.org/mega-cong.htm

  95. #95
    On November 19th, 2008 at 3:46 pm, reshas1 said:

    I see new car stickers and new cars all over the place where I live…..

  96. #96
    On November 19th, 2008 at 3:55 pm, rightisright said:

    Here’s something this government dolt and others should read, they may just get an idea how basic economics works.
    http://home.earthlink.net/~schiffeconomics/index.htm

  97. #97
    On November 19th, 2008 at 4:19 pm, groundhunter said:

    If it is not my money then in some perverse way I should owe no taxes.

    I wish we could find a legal way for a tax revolt. As soon as I would miss a dollar owed I would get audited and put in jail. Now Mr. Rangel is another story.

    I just keep locking in capital gain losses like mad and might not have to pay capital gains until Obama is out of office. Best I can do under the circumstances.

  98. #98
    On November 19th, 2008 at 5:03 pm, mytake said:

    The market just closed at a new low and I have to explode somewhere. I talked to someone recently who was advised to take all his money out of the market the day Obama polled 51% for the first time quite a while back. He did that and it was a brilliant stroke of genius. Why isn’t anyone admitting that the market is reacting to the coming Obama presidency? I’m fed up with all the other explanations. He could stop the bleeding by renouncing his plan for increased taxes on the investor class.

  99. #99
    On November 19th, 2008 at 5:18 pm, Ahh a Lion! said:

    On November 19th, 2008 at 3:55 pm, rightisright said:

    Here’s something this government dolt and others should read, they may just get an idea how basic economics works.
    http://home.earthlink.net/~schiffeconomics/index.htm

    Nice link! Irwin’s son Peter also makes his rounds on the financial show speaking truth. You can check out the archived collection of his appearances at his website. He’s been predicting this meltdown coming for years.

  100. #100
    On November 19th, 2008 at 5:20 pm, Ahh a Lion! said:

    On November 19th, 2008 at 5:03 pm, mytake said:

    Obama has nothing to do with the current meltdown. Our phony system of economics holds all the blame. Obama will make it worse when he gets power, sure – but the massive liquidation is due to no confidence in a system that is based on central economic planning and fiat money.

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