The insane rage of the same-sex marriage mob
My first syndicated column of the week today chronicles the insane rage of the anti-Prop. 8 mob that’s not on your newspaper front pages or nightly news. The lawsuits are piling up: “Four Bay Area counties are the latest to join the legal fight to try to stop state Proposition 8, a ban on same-sex marriage in California that voters approved Nov. 4. The Board of Supervisors for Alameda, Marin, San Mateo and Santa Cruz counties have approved joining a lawsuit filed in the California Supreme Court by the cities of San Francisco and Los Angeles and Santa Clara and Los Angeles counties. The lawsuit is one of six cases filed directly in the state high court in San Francisco to challenge the Proposition 8.” California AG Jerry Brown wants fast action. The buzz over potential judicial recalls is building. Meantime, the anti-Prop. 8 mob is plotting its next action: “Day Without a Gay.” And the latest on the witch hunt against the Mormon Church is here.
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The insane rage of the same-sex marriage mob
by Michelle Malkin
Creators Syndicate
Copyright 2008
Before election day, national media hand-wringers forged a wildly popular narrative: The Right was, in the words of New York Times’ columnist Paul Krugman, gripped by “insane rage.” Outbreaks of incivility (some real, but mostly imagined) were proof positive of the extremist takeover of the Republican Party. The cluck-cluckers and tut-tutters shook in fear.
But when the GOP took a beating on Nov. 4, no mass protests ensued. No nationwide boycotts erupted. Conservatives took their lumps and began the peaceful post-defeat process of self-flagellation, self-analysis, and self-autopsy. In fact, there’s only one angry mob gripped by “insane rage” in the wake of campaign 2008: The mob of left-wing, same-sex marriage activists incensed at their defeat in California. Voters there approved a traditional marriage initiative, Proposition 8, by 52-48.
Instead of introspection and self-criticism, however, the sore losers who opposed Prop. 8 have responded with threats, fists, and blacklists.
That’s right. Activists have published an “Anti-Gay Black List” of Prop. 8 donors on the Internet. If the tables had been turned and Prop. 8 proponents created such an enemies’ list, everyone in Hollywood would be screaming “McCarthyism” faster than you can count to eight. A Los Angeles restaurant whose manager made a small donation to the Prop. 8 campaign has been besieged nightly by hordes of protesters who have disrupted the business, intimidated patrons, and brought employees there to tears. In fear for their jobs and their lives, workers at El Coyote Mexican Café pooled together $500 to pay off the bullies.
Scott Eckern, a beleaguered artistic director at the California Musical Theatre, was forced to resign over his $1,000 donation to the Prop. 8 campaign. The director of the Los Angeles Film Festival, Rich Raddon, is next on the chopping block after the anti-Prop. 8 mob discovered that he had also contributed to the Yes on 8 campaign. Calls have been pouring in for his firing.
Over the past two weeks, anti-Prop. 8 organizers have targeted Mormon, Catholic, and evangelical churches. Sentiments like this one, found on the anti-Prop.8 website “JoeMyGod,” are common across the left-wing blogosphere: “Burn their f—ing churches to the ground, and then tax the charred timbers.” Thousands of gay-rights demonstrators stood in front of the Mormon temple in Los Angeles shouting “Mormon scum.” The Mormon headquarters in Salt Lake City received threatening letters containing an unidentified powder. Religious-bashing protesters filled with hate decried the “hate” at Rick Warren’s Saddleback Church in Orange County, Calif. Vandals defaced the Calvary Chapel in Chino Hills, Calif., because church members had collected Prop. 8 petitions. One worshiper’s car was keyed with the slogans “Gay sex is love” and “SEX;” another car’s antenna and windshield wipers were broken.
In Carlsbad, Calif., a man was charged with punching his elderly neighbors over their pro-Prop. 8 signs. In Palm Springs, a videographer filmed unhinged anti-Prop. 8 marchers who yanked a large cross from the hands of 69-year-old Phyllis Burgess and stomped on it.
In San Francisco, Christians evangelizing in the Castro district needed police protection after the same-sex marriage mob got physical and hounded them off the streets.
Enthusiastically shooting themselves in the foot, anti-Prop. 8 boycotters are now going after the left-wing Sundance Film Festival because it does business in Mormon-friendly Utah. Also targeted: Cinemark Theaters across the country. The company’s CEO, Alan Stock, donated just under $1,000 to the traditional marriage measure. Never mind that Cinemark theaters are hosting the new biopic about gay icon Harvey Milk. They must pay for the sins of the company head who dared to exercise his political free speech!
Corporate honchos, church leaders, and small donors alike are in the same-sex marriage mob’s crosshairs, all unfairly demonized as hate-filled bigots by bona fite hate-filled bigots who have abandoned decency in pursuit of “equal rights.” One wonders where Barack Obama (himself an opponent of Proposition 8 and an opponent of gay marriage) is as this insane rage rages on. Soul-Fixer, Nation-Healer, where art thou?
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again you show yourself to be an uninformed, shallow person. Gay marriage is all about restricting freedom for christians.
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such stupidity has to hurt..
oh yeah you’re a ‘christian’ right…
Do I believe that God designed marriage as between a man and a woman? Yes.
But until Christians are as outraged over the way we have used the easy divorce laws to trample the beauty of this God-designed covenant of marriage, I don’t know why we should have any credibility in offering God’s design of marriage as our reason for wishing it to remain as between a man and woman only.
I’m sorry, but Phyllis Burgess should have kept her big huge wooden cross at home unless she was willing to die on it. She cheapened the most precious symbol of Christ’s love for us by using it in that way.
To discourage people the law not only defines murder, it also makes it illegal. There’s not much of a “take it or leave it” about it. (Unless a person wants to face the consequences of course.) Keeps civilization running a bit smoother if the citizens don’t depend on their whims about it.
Yeah, how DARE those intolerant Christians think that the 1st Amendment actually applied to them.
Strange, I saw no condemnation for the thug who attacked Ms. Burgess. Why is that, Vicki?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rHaVUjjH3EI
There’s a special place in hell for you, purple!
Shame I can’t watch videos where I am.
Care to explain?
“Freedom” to discriminate? You’re kidding, right? So the Taliban is right to be able to keep women from attending school? They’re only following their religion, after all.
You are aware that we live in a representative democracy, correct? You seem to be in support of a judicial oligarchy, but under the situation you describe, the courts would have failed if it were not for the 14th amendment, which was, by the way, decided by a majority vote by representatives of the people.
We are still (for now) a nation of the people, for the people, and by the people. Endorsing ideas that give a select group of individuals in black robes the ability to do more than the constitution allows is a recipe for disaster.
With this one sentence, you display both an implied disregard for the rule of law (as it pertains to the disgusting behavior of these protesters), but also for any logic you may have thought you had with regards to “rights”.
Civilians have the right not to be attacked in public. The faithful have a right to practice their faith without persecution. The populace has a right to expect that the police and executive branches of government will enforce the law of the land.
If you believe so strongly in gay marriage, you should also believe that for it to have any credibility at all it must go through legal due process.
Whether or not you like ballot initiatives, they are still the law under the California constitution.
Stan:
http://www.humanistsofutah.org/2002/WhyCantIOwnACanadian_10-02.html
Have to disagree with you, Vicki. It would be a very sad state of affairs indeed if American civilization were in such horrible state that a person should expect to be killed for carrying a cross of any size. I’m not inclined to give thugs that much leeway.
did you even read what I posted? thats what the gay taliban want to do in this country…duhhhhhh .
eaglehaslanded: So you disparage the very book your religon is based on then claim to be a supporter of the very same religon???
You claim to be a Christian and you know this little about the Christian faith?
You and your lie are hereby dismissed!
homosexuality is the practice of engaging in homosexual acts. Gay is as gay does (just like stupid is a stupid does).
so when are you going to explain to me why cutting a hole in a babie’s head and sucking out the brains is what a good christian would do??
Omu seems to have disappeared when asked about the constitutional basis for gay marriage.
hhhmmmm
I wasn’t aware watersnot was banned from the site, how, when and why, inquiring minds wanna know?
Not that I miss him/her…probably back already as one of these nitwit, intolerant, unamerican, Cretans that post here.
This is not directed specifically at right4life, but rather just a request in general that we get back to the topic rather than going through yet another debate about Christianity. I believe just about every post about the anti-Prop 8 protesters has devolved into that.
Ultimately, this implies that the vote for Prop-8 was done solely by Christians and Mormons. This is exactly what the media would also like for us to believe.
But do we all really believe that the 52% of those that voted on this only did it for religious reasons? I find it difficult to believe that.
Besides which, as it has been pointed out several times, California is an overwhelmingly “blue” state. To suddenly believe that now there are extremely influential groups of Christians in California that could sway a vote seems a bit… unrealistic.
sorry, this was directed at eaglehaslanded for his idiotic statements….there wouldn’t be a debate, since he/she/it cannot answer this or any other question.
I made a similar hypothetical suggestion last week on the same subject. If the fags(radicals) are so upset about not being “married” by the government, change the laws. No more government issued marriage licensees, make them “civil union contracts” for homos and heterosexuals. Heterosexuals, go to a church and have their “marriage” sanctified by their church.
Stand back and see how the homo radicals react.
It’s the word they want, not the meaning. They already have the same rights and bennies in a number of states including the land of fruit and nuts, Kallifoniea.
I have no trouble with this, and I agree 100% that this entire civil rights claim is completely bogus. The entire gay marriage movement is over semantics.
There are millions of pro-choice Christians. The majority of Catholics voted for Obama.
I personally do not believe in abortion. So I won’t have one. But I can emphasize with those that are uncomfortable with the idea of forcing a woman to carry a child and give birth against her will.
But this was about Gay rights, yes? I find it astounding that people think that unless they can discriminate against people, their right to worship is being threatened.
Oh, please…do fill me in on why some things are to be taken literally and others…not so much? And a good Christian should know the difference?
yeah there are millions who say they are christian…you know a real christian would be able to give me a scripture to justify this…not some inane statement about the number of people who approve of something..the road to hell is broad…
I just proved that gay marriage WILL discriminate against people who dare disagree…but that doesn’t bother you at all does it? you’re fine with silencing those who disagree like the good little gay nazi you are.
using your ‘logic’ then we are also discriminating against pedophiles by denying them their right to abuse children.
No.I
Not one liberal has ever been able to demonstrate this invented “right” to gay marriage.
Many of us on this blog would have been dead, had abortion been so prevalent when we were born. Maybe even you.
Yup, I think “by the way”, incidental, en passant mentions/questions that stem from the natural flow and then get back to the topical area are fine, but not an obsessive mono-topical thing.
It’s just as it is with the “haters” & “bigots” emotional tirades – it serves no end and it gets old pretty fast.
Wow. Your sure getting upset about something that really isn’t you’re business.
Salt said:
(emphasis mine)
Let me correct your benign oversight: Mormons are Christians.
They need not be mentioned separately. Those who understand LDS theology know that they are one and the same.
The day after election day. He got a little too caught up in the moment and was definitely exhibiting the symptoms of a BiPolar Manic Episode (I was going to go with Hypomanic but…..)
not a chance. no other christian church recognizes the LDS as christian. LDS are not trinitarian.
Let’s not sugar-coat ideology:
pro-choice:pro-abortion::pro-life:anti-abortion
Oh boy, here we go…
Can I get a ruling on Scientologists?
BTW, where have THEY been in all of this lately?
jumping on oprah’s couch
On November 19th, 2008 at 2:43 pm, RabbidSquirrel, tks for the info, so, it was banned from the site? That’s quite an accomplishment for closed minded, intolerant, individual off their meds. MM has to be as tolerant of a web hostess as there is online. I must have missed its outrage, i was probably in deep depression myself after the election results and seeing our country had been bought by a wealthy socialist.
Is lgm still around? Haven’t heard from him in a while.
I condemned his, and everyone else’s, thuggish behavior the last time we commented on this mob scene a few days back.
I am not among those who think that this is the hill on which Christians should die. We die for the right to practice our religion in a free and unencumbered way, and to freely and publicly declare our faith in God. Our commission, as Christians, is to go and tell the world of Christ’s love and what He taught us while walking the earth. Our purpose is to bring glory to God while helping others understand of their need for reconciliation and forgiveness of sins which comes only through Jesus Christ.
As Right4Life pointed out a week ago, she believes, and perhaps you agree, that I am wrong to believe as I do. One other hurtful commenter even accused me of not worshipping the biblical Jesus Christ!
I do. And He did not charge us with the responsibility of shaping society, for He instead warned us that society would hate us because it hated Him. I think Christians are overstepping so much on this issue that we are going to lose our right to worship freely. That is my concern. The other is that we are not demonstrating love as we disagree with the gay lifestyle.
Waterdipstick was shown the door the day before the election. Good riddance to the scumbag.
OMG!!! I just recognized my 1st real-world SAT analogy!!
(for those that took the SATs they dont even make the kids do them any more. too stressful for the little snot rags)
purplepeep, I think I did not clearly explain my point, which is that the wooden cross is a symbol of Christ’s antoning death for the sin of all mankind. When He told us to take up our cross and follow Him, we were to be ready to die on it for His sake; not for our own. “For no greater love hath man than this: that he lay his life down for a friend.”
I think that marriage has become more important than the cross of Jesus Christ for many Christians, and it breaks my heart.
Ron Richardson: Yeah? Are you gonna make it all 220?
Jack Butler: Yeah. 220… 221, whatever it takes.
Hence, the LDS church is not trinitarian. Acceptance or refutation of the Nicene creed does not constitute “Christian” or not. As for “no other Christian church…” How very Christian of them. Sounds like Mike Huckabee’s position to me.
This isn’t the venue for this discussion, so I apologize for what might become in advance for those who are interested in commentary on the insane rage of the same-sex marriage mob. I was simply attempting to coolly and calmly dispel a myth. Apparently I instead have struck a painful nerve.
The name of the church itself denotes “…of Jesus Christ…”
uh HE
the whole purpose of gay marriage is to restrict the rights of christians…rolling over for it is the quick way to lose our freedom.
Yep, them, gay folks must be nuts to fight against the bigots in our country.
The best way for gay to people to hurt you people is to make marrying your own sister illegal.
Oops! Sorry, Sir.
Please forgive my mistake.
Can you please explain how granting gays the right to marry results in the restriction of the rights of Christians, and which freedoms we are losing? I’m not arguing with you; I only wish to understand your point.
yeah why would you want to be associated with a bunch of hateful, and apostate, by the mormons own admission, churches?
yeah the muslims consider Him one of THEIR prophets…so?
you can call yourself whatever you want…it is telling the rest of christianity, which has been around for a lot longer, refuse to acknowledge your claim.
This can be viewed as an issue of not gay rights but rights for just two guys 9or gals) that want to “get married” whether they love each other or not, for the financial benefits…Why do marriages even get a tax break to begin with?
If it is because that stable, traditional unit brings benefits to the society, then they should get a tax break. Why give a tax break, or any other kind of break, to an unstable unit that is only a drain on society:
High separation rates, HIV, broken homes with kids separated, high suicide rates. These are what homosexual relations bring to society.
from my post at the top of this page..
the catholic adoption agency in MA has had to stop offering adoptions because they won’t bend to the state’s demand that they give children to gays…just another example…
Damn I miss all the fun, loved to have seen the exile.
Having a different view does not make me a bigot and if you think it does you can go to hell because I will not be BULLIED into changing my mind by small minded radical bigots like you.
This didn’t make even bad sense except that it does high light the concept that changing the defintion of marriage opens the way for ANY definition of marriage.
Can any Mormon on this comment string please explain the purpose of your temple rights in regard to your position before God? And if you have time, can you add a note about the garments, please? I’d appreciate knowing your belief on these two things.
HEY!!!! Slow down there. Lets not rush into things there. We can put this up for a vote first. They didnt do anything to you.
Cousin Vicki: I’m going steady, and I French kiss.
Audrey Griswold: So? Everybody does that.
Cousin Vicki: Yeah, but daddy says I’m the best.
By that do you refer to the father son and holy ghost? Because mormons do believe in those. Ex-mormon here. In fact my father was a bishop.
r4f stupidly thinks that discriminating against gay people is the Christian thing to do, and making it illegal to discriminate against gay people violates his freedom of religion.
This is ridiculous on many levels, the most compelling of which is that most states already have laws on the books (for example, NY’s Sexual Orientation Non Discrimination Act) prohibiting ignorant bigots like him for doing it anyway.
He and other whackjob so-called Christians are going to lose this one, but he’s too dumb to understand this.
I will try as a ex-mormon. Its been more than 15 years though.
It involves certian rites such as marriage that can not be publicly done due to thier religous value. An example is that A temple marriage is good after death, a church one is not.
They are a covenant between god and the person. Its the same concept as circumsing a boy except a little less painfull. They are also meant to be protective.
I’m sorry you feel the way you do. I’m quite certain we revere and honor the same Jesus Christ–literal Son of God, atoner of our sins, Savior of the world.
It’s unfortunate that a gathering of men in 325, convened by a secular non-Christian leader, and voted on (as opposed to revealed–which was Christ’s preferred mode of giving doctrine) has provided you with this foundation which has shaped your belief.
Judging by your insistence, I am prone to believe that you have most likely been indoctrinated by your “christian” minister, perhaps in a “truth about Mormons” class which many so-called Christian churches teach (why I have no idea). I hope I am wrong. In all my years of attending LDS services, I have yet to hear ANYONE from ANY pulpit–from the least member to the greatest leader–refer to any other religion–much less other Christians–as “hateful.” Apostate simply refers to something that was prophesied in the N.T. I would assume that you believe in that, and perhaps we could find common ground there. [2 Thes. 2:1-3 (KJV)]
To the others on this thread, I apologize for the sidebar. I trust you find it at least mildly informative. My whole life seems to be a succession of defending my faith against misconception. I suppose that’s a hallmark of a Christian.
the mormons believe in polytheism. they believe the Father and Son and HOly Spirit are separate.
The trinity is three separate Gods: The Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost. “That these three are separate individuals, physically distinct from each other, is demonstrated by the accepted records of divine dealings with man.” (Articles of Faith, by James Talmage, p. 35.)
and their jesus is not the Jesus of the Bible…
Jesus is the literal spirit-brother of Lucifer, a creation. (Gospel Through the Ages, p. 15)
“Christ was begotten by an Immortal Father in the same way that mortal men are begotten by mortal fathers” (Mormon Doctrine,” by Bruce McConkie, p. 547)
see above, no you do not.
Don’t know and don’t care where r4l gets their info about what the Mormons believe, but he has it all wrong when saying they are not Christians. The basic belief in the LDS religion are to the Father, the Son and the Holy Ghost. Ex-Mormon here myself, no longer affiliated with any religion.
vicki: sonofdy does a yeoman’s job answering your questions. I direct you to http://www.mormon.org for further information, as well.
I would add an analogy my wife drew years ago. She was raised Catholic and refers to the “garment” in a way that parallels the clerical robes of Catholics. The key difference is that the LDS garment is worn internally, and is an inward reminder to the faithful of promises made to God of faith, selflessness, chastity and other key things. A Catholic priest has himself made promises to God, the symbolism of which is worn externally as a testament to that commitment.
I revere both groups of individuals as people doing the best they can with the knowledge they have–all the while trying to become more Christlike.
your stupidity is getting old. you and your gay nazi allies ARE restricting religious freedom even now. As I have documented…
thanks for admitting you gay nazis are ALREADY restricting our freedom
you must be in a great deal of pain, such stupidity has to hurt
AllahPundit has been banning anyone who uses the word f** or fa****. I wonder why the standards are different here since Michelle runs both sites.
why don’t you document another christian church that considers them christian?? bet you cannot.
Mormonism is possiably the most conservative religon in america. But there are lot of untrue stories about it out there.
WRONG! Sexual deviation is a choice, usually influenced by deviations exacted upon them during childhood.
Case in point… didn’t Anne Heche used to be a “lesbian”? I heard she “switched” and is now married… [gasp] to a man.
Dunno, we have a few posters (tayawna) that seem to think personal attacks and accusing posters of being victims of incest, molestation, prescription meds, and sexual indescresions or (mistress justice) illicit drug use, sexual perversions or confusions etc that seem to go unoticed.
Wouldnt you agree this might be a little more unsettling than sensoring certain words?
Look up “bisexual”. Then look up “homosexual”. Then look up “idiot”. Your picture is next to the last one.
Ann Heche also claimed to have an alter ego that was the daughter of God and half-sibling of Jesus named “Celestia,” who had contacts with extraterrestrial life forms.
As you said, the oversight was benign and no offense was intended. My only reason for mentioning Mormons specifically is that there seems to be a more heavily slanted bias against them by the protesters due to media reports on the exit polls.
Cosmo / right4life,
Can we please end the debate now about whether or not Mormons are Christians as it is not truly relevant to the topic? My whole point was that the vote is likely not entirely (or even majority) religiously influenced.
Yes we know mookie, anyone who doesn’t support your view 100% is a bigoted idiot.
So, Mookie, what’s your excuse?
More unsettling? Maybe. I guess it depends on how the person it’s being aimed at feels. But I wonder why the standards are different here vs Hot Air.
On November 19th, 2008 at 1:11 pm, Omu said:
Define what “rights” are and then we can talk.
You collectivists love to talk about “rights” but never define the concept…
just out of curiousity, are you as fat and ugly as you are stupid??
About what? Anne Heche isn’t exactly a beacon of stability and mental health. There are better examples of gay “converts” than her.
Ahhh, so the litmus test no longer is applied to the behavior rather according to victimhood status?
Is it or is it not appropriate to make non-factual, vicious attacks?
r4l: this is where I think the discourse will break down.
As much as it perplexes the Huckabee Christians, I do believe that Lucifer is a spirit sibling. Isaiah 14:12 is clear that Lucifer was in heaven–and fell. His fall came because he sought to destroy the agency of man. Much akin to the anti-8 crowd seeks to do (nice segue…). Think of it as an apple that fell very far from the tree. Two brothers who were diametrically opposed to one another: one (Christ) sought to preserve our agency–as His Father intended; the other (Lucifer) sought to destroy it. For that he was cast down, as a consequence of his decision.
I’m not quite sure why this is such a problem for other Christians. No one is equating Christ with Satan. The doctrine is simply stating two brothers who chose entirely different paths. Anyone who has a “black sheep” sibling can no doubt relate.
As for the McConkie reference: It looks like “begotten not made” is the verbiage that the Nicene Creed utilizes. If that’s the litmus test, then it would seem that Mormons are a little more Christian than expected.
Even Joseph knew he wasn’t the physical father of Jesus. I’ll take his word for it. (Matt 1:19 KJV) He was a “just” man according to Matthew. Had he impregnated Mary, that would’ve made him a fornicator–as she was with child prior to their marriage.
I’m splitting hairs–but I really hope you see the intent here. We could argue scriptures all day, to no avail. The bottom line is I am a Christian. I believe in Christ. Period. Point. Next.
I haven’t seen what you’re talking about so I can’t answer you.
Salt:
We can. I tried to apologize for the impending tangent–then went ahead and dragged it out. You are correct. I’m either going to get back on topic or just lurk. It’s incredibly difficult for me personally to stand by and have a core component of who I am be called into question.
Thank you for understanding the tone of my original post. Your delineations make much more sense in light of your last comment. Thanks!
Homosexual behavior is not a “civil right”,
but the Vast LEFT-Wing Conspiracy insists that it is.
Al-Gayda strikes again…
Eric McKinley filed a complaint with New Jersey’s Civil Rights Division against a California-based company that provided heterosexual-only online matchmaking.
The result?
Online dating service eHarmony will be forced to begin providing
same-sex matches and pay up…
Under terms of the settlement, the company can create a new or differently named Web site for same-sex singles. The company can also post a disclaimer saying its compatibility-based matching system was developed from research of married heterosexual couples.
Neither the company nor its founder, Neil Clark Warren, admit any liability.
In addition, eHarmony will pay the division $50,000 to cover administrative costs. It will pay McKinley $5,000 and give him a free one-year membership to its new service.
Check out the posts #92,97,99 on the Hagel thread. Specifically…those comments.
Heading that way now.
As a christian, all I can comment is….yikes.
redpill,
That has to go under the category of
Y.H.G.T.B.S.M.
You have got to be Sh____g me.
MM is obviously more tolerant!
Eagle – discrimination happens with or without laws.
By leaving the religious institution of marriage up to interpretation allows religions to be dictated by other cultures and the governement.
If same sex marriage is legal and a certain religion does not chose to accept that (because that is what they believe) then what keeps same-sex couples from suing these establishments for discrimination (or the government removing their tax exemption status)?
How then are religions protected from the government so their followers may freely practice their beliefs?
They wont be.
So either…
1) You know God condemns homosexuality as an abhorrent sin, and you are knowingly siding with the evil one against God, or…
2) You just think you’re a Christian, and don’t know or want to know Scripture. You are the “church” that Jesus refers to when he refers to the lukewarm being spit out of his mouth and that he never knew you, or…
3) You’re lying.
We are told to judge others by the fruit of their actions. Jesus called many “religious” people hypocrites for not applying scripture. Jesus also said that those that do not bear fruit will be pruned from the vine and thrown into the fire to be burned.
As a Christian, I am backing up my arguments with Scripture, the very Word of God. If feel you must refute me, then use the Word to correct me. Otherwise, your tongue is nothing more than a restless evil, full of deadly poison.
Ten points to the true Christians who can point out all the Scripture references I just made…
Calling dominigan a homo, eh?
Sweet Jesus. Please tell me she’s been banned. That was ridiculous.
Mookie, she should have been long, long time ago.
this is exactly why mormonism will never be christian. in Christianity, JESUS is God Almighty, creator of heaven and earth, and yes of Satan. they are not ‘brothers’ in any way shape or form. Jesus didn’t become a God, he Always was and Always will be God almighty.
There is ONE GOD only. you are polytheists. the Shemah: Hear oh Israel, the Lord our God, the Lord is one…and in isaiah 43:10 before Me there were no gods formed and there shall be none after Me.
only other mormons will consider you so. no other real christian will
Wait, which one? Tanya? I thought she was new?
What in the world has this country come to? This is absolute insanity. Forcing a company to spend money to extend its product offering to appease someone who felt the company was violating their civil rights? How can this even be possible??? That’s like a Muslim woman suing a clothing manufacturer for not making a headscarf to match her new sweater.
In the run up to election day many of my friends, co-workers, would say, “But gay people are not going to force churches to marry them. They’ve assured the voters they will not start suing churches.”
I would always ask, “Who is this ‘they’ you speak of? Do they have control over every homosexual in California? Because it only takes one person to file a lawsuit and win.”
Thanks for the info…it will be shared with many!!! Isn’t the founder of eHarmony a Born Again Christian??? I thought I heard that somewhere…
The piece of trash Jusstafakelawyer.
Does it really matter who is on what side of religious practice. Point being, if you are not allowed to practice your religion, it really doesn’t matter folks…
Who cares what someone else believes. Its their OWN BELIEF…is it not? That’s the really nice thing about Free Will, isn’t it?
The common thread here is Mormon, Christian, Jew, Hindu, Buddist, Wiccian… whatever, if same-sex marriage is passed then freedom to practice YOUR religion of choice without interference from society and government will be non-existent.
AJ – Mookie was reading Tanya’s posts. Mookie, i have no clue if she was banned.
Mistress Justice is pretty close. There is a smattering of the same (on the hagel thread too – attacks about sexual nonsense on the same post) nature.
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=81446
Another example of them using the coercive power of government to force private organizations to bend to their will.
Don’t Be A Judge, But Do Be A Fruit Inspector
Looks like bad fruit to me…