The insane rage of the same-sex marriage mob
My first syndicated column of the week today chronicles the insane rage of the anti-Prop. 8 mob that’s not on your newspaper front pages or nightly news. The lawsuits are piling up: “Four Bay Area counties are the latest to join the legal fight to try to stop state Proposition 8, a ban on same-sex marriage in California that voters approved Nov. 4. The Board of Supervisors for Alameda, Marin, San Mateo and Santa Cruz counties have approved joining a lawsuit filed in the California Supreme Court by the cities of San Francisco and Los Angeles and Santa Clara and Los Angeles counties. The lawsuit is one of six cases filed directly in the state high court in San Francisco to challenge the Proposition 8.” California AG Jerry Brown wants fast action. The buzz over potential judicial recalls is building. Meantime, the anti-Prop. 8 mob is plotting its next action: “Day Without a Gay.” And the latest on the witch hunt against the Mormon Church is here.
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The insane rage of the same-sex marriage mob
by Michelle Malkin
Creators Syndicate
Copyright 2008
Before election day, national media hand-wringers forged a wildly popular narrative: The Right was, in the words of New York Times’ columnist Paul Krugman, gripped by “insane rage.” Outbreaks of incivility (some real, but mostly imagined) were proof positive of the extremist takeover of the Republican Party. The cluck-cluckers and tut-tutters shook in fear.
But when the GOP took a beating on Nov. 4, no mass protests ensued. No nationwide boycotts erupted. Conservatives took their lumps and began the peaceful post-defeat process of self-flagellation, self-analysis, and self-autopsy. In fact, there’s only one angry mob gripped by “insane rage” in the wake of campaign 2008: The mob of left-wing, same-sex marriage activists incensed at their defeat in California. Voters there approved a traditional marriage initiative, Proposition 8, by 52-48.
Instead of introspection and self-criticism, however, the sore losers who opposed Prop. 8 have responded with threats, fists, and blacklists.
That’s right. Activists have published an “Anti-Gay Black List” of Prop. 8 donors on the Internet. If the tables had been turned and Prop. 8 proponents created such an enemies’ list, everyone in Hollywood would be screaming “McCarthyism” faster than you can count to eight. A Los Angeles restaurant whose manager made a small donation to the Prop. 8 campaign has been besieged nightly by hordes of protesters who have disrupted the business, intimidated patrons, and brought employees there to tears. In fear for their jobs and their lives, workers at El Coyote Mexican Café pooled together $500 to pay off the bullies.
Scott Eckern, a beleaguered artistic director at the California Musical Theatre, was forced to resign over his $1,000 donation to the Prop. 8 campaign. The director of the Los Angeles Film Festival, Rich Raddon, is next on the chopping block after the anti-Prop. 8 mob discovered that he had also contributed to the Yes on 8 campaign. Calls have been pouring in for his firing.
Over the past two weeks, anti-Prop. 8 organizers have targeted Mormon, Catholic, and evangelical churches. Sentiments like this one, found on the anti-Prop.8 website “JoeMyGod,” are common across the left-wing blogosphere: “Burn their f—ing churches to the ground, and then tax the charred timbers.” Thousands of gay-rights demonstrators stood in front of the Mormon temple in Los Angeles shouting “Mormon scum.” The Mormon headquarters in Salt Lake City received threatening letters containing an unidentified powder. Religious-bashing protesters filled with hate decried the “hate” at Rick Warren’s Saddleback Church in Orange County, Calif. Vandals defaced the Calvary Chapel in Chino Hills, Calif., because church members had collected Prop. 8 petitions. One worshiper’s car was keyed with the slogans “Gay sex is love” and “SEX;” another car’s antenna and windshield wipers were broken.
In Carlsbad, Calif., a man was charged with punching his elderly neighbors over their pro-Prop. 8 signs. In Palm Springs, a videographer filmed unhinged anti-Prop. 8 marchers who yanked a large cross from the hands of 69-year-old Phyllis Burgess and stomped on it.
In San Francisco, Christians evangelizing in the Castro district needed police protection after the same-sex marriage mob got physical and hounded them off the streets.
Enthusiastically shooting themselves in the foot, anti-Prop. 8 boycotters are now going after the left-wing Sundance Film Festival because it does business in Mormon-friendly Utah. Also targeted: Cinemark Theaters across the country. The company’s CEO, Alan Stock, donated just under $1,000 to the traditional marriage measure. Never mind that Cinemark theaters are hosting the new biopic about gay icon Harvey Milk. They must pay for the sins of the company head who dared to exercise his political free speech!
Corporate honchos, church leaders, and small donors alike are in the same-sex marriage mob’s crosshairs, all unfairly demonized as hate-filled bigots by bona fite hate-filled bigots who have abandoned decency in pursuit of “equal rights.” One wonders where Barack Obama (himself an opponent of Proposition 8 and an opponent of gay marriage) is as this insane rage rages on. Soul-Fixer, Nation-Healer, where art thou?
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MM is obviously more tolerant!
Eagle – discrimination happens with or without laws.
By leaving the religious institution of marriage up to interpretation allows religions to be dictated by other cultures and the governement.
If same sex marriage is legal and a certain religion does not chose to accept that (because that is what they believe) then what keeps same-sex couples from suing these establishments for discrimination (or the government removing their tax exemption status)?
How then are religions protected from the government so their followers may freely practice their beliefs?
They wont be.
So either…
1) You know God condemns homosexuality as an abhorrent sin, and you are knowingly siding with the evil one against God, or…
2) You just think you’re a Christian, and don’t know or want to know Scripture. You are the “church” that Jesus refers to when he refers to the lukewarm being spit out of his mouth and that he never knew you, or…
3) You’re lying.
We are told to judge others by the fruit of their actions. Jesus called many “religious” people hypocrites for not applying scripture. Jesus also said that those that do not bear fruit will be pruned from the vine and thrown into the fire to be burned.
As a Christian, I am backing up my arguments with Scripture, the very Word of God. If feel you must refute me, then use the Word to correct me. Otherwise, your tongue is nothing more than a restless evil, full of deadly poison.
Ten points to the true Christians who can point out all the Scripture references I just made…
Calling dominigan a homo, eh?
Sweet Jesus. Please tell me she’s been banned. That was ridiculous.
Mookie, she should have been long, long time ago.
this is exactly why mormonism will never be christian. in Christianity, JESUS is God Almighty, creator of heaven and earth, and yes of Satan. they are not ‘brothers’ in any way shape or form. Jesus didn’t become a God, he Always was and Always will be God almighty.
There is ONE GOD only. you are polytheists. the Shemah: Hear oh Israel, the Lord our God, the Lord is one…and in isaiah 43:10 before Me there were no gods formed and there shall be none after Me.
only other mormons will consider you so. no other real christian will
Wait, which one? Tanya? I thought she was new?
What in the world has this country come to? This is absolute insanity. Forcing a company to spend money to extend its product offering to appease someone who felt the company was violating their civil rights? How can this even be possible??? That’s like a Muslim woman suing a clothing manufacturer for not making a headscarf to match her new sweater.
In the run up to election day many of my friends, co-workers, would say, “But gay people are not going to force churches to marry them. They’ve assured the voters they will not start suing churches.”
I would always ask, “Who is this ‘they’ you speak of? Do they have control over every homosexual in California? Because it only takes one person to file a lawsuit and win.”
Thanks for the info…it will be shared with many!!! Isn’t the founder of eHarmony a Born Again Christian??? I thought I heard that somewhere…
The piece of trash Jusstafakelawyer.
Does it really matter who is on what side of religious practice. Point being, if you are not allowed to practice your religion, it really doesn’t matter folks…
Who cares what someone else believes. Its their OWN BELIEF…is it not? That’s the really nice thing about Free Will, isn’t it?
The common thread here is Mormon, Christian, Jew, Hindu, Buddist, Wiccian… whatever, if same-sex marriage is passed then freedom to practice YOUR religion of choice without interference from society and government will be non-existent.
AJ – Mookie was reading Tanya’s posts. Mookie, i have no clue if she was banned.
Mistress Justice is pretty close. There is a smattering of the same (on the hagel thread too – attacks about sexual nonsense on the same post) nature.
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=81446
Another example of them using the coercive power of government to force private organizations to bend to their will.
Don’t Be A Judge, But Do Be A Fruit Inspector
Looks like bad fruit to me…
I don’t understand that. There’s no reason for it. You can disagree with someone until the cows come home but there are some places you just don’t go. I obviously disagree with almost everyone here about gay marriage but I wouldn’t even think of going in the direction they went. You just don’t do it.
IC,
Thought you were speaking of her foursome fantasy and such.
anyway, both are equally vile.
I think they’re going for folsom follies grand marshall gig.
Mookie, although we disagree…and there is some slightly intense banter…i wouldnt peg you as one of them.
I dont get it either.
They’ll call it “eSodomy.com”
They can shove a splintered telephone pole up their collective posteriors, with no vaseline.
Oh wait, no, they’d enjoy it.
Dang!
Yuck, Gorebot. Just… yuck.
full body shiver
feebie & aj; methinks tanya & mj are the same poster/poseur
Gayness has not been proven to be genetically determined in the same way as blackness or femaleness. Therefore your civil rights camparisions are not valid. Civil Unions give all the legal rights to same sex couples as marriage, except the moral equivalence.
So the question is, why would LGBTs want moral acceptance from the rest of us? Or maybe they want something else, like to silence the church by suing it out of existance the moment they get their first marriage discrimination suit.
I had my own “Michael and Latoya Jackson” conspiracy theories….
P.S. If you dont believe the lawsuits are coming, just look at post #295.
deviant cruelty:
masochist to sadist: Hit me!
sadist to masochist: No!
Original link:
H/T to mattymatt10 for the following link w/ additional detail:
#312/295;
Thanks for the heads up and sadly I will leave eHarmony once my term is up in about five months. Sadly, I will tell them that I am leaving because of their refusal to fight.
GSP
“This is Sparta!”
The Obama eefect has now droped the dow below 8000
eefect = effect…
Spiritual warfare is real, and is currently manifested in
legal warfare,
political warfare,
ideological warfare,
and it is getting closer and closer to manifesting into physical warfare.
God works through His people, and Satan works through his people.
Those of us who know Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior have nothing to worry about. (Don’t worry. Be happy.)
Those who don’t know Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior would be wise to lower their pride and talk frankly with a friend who does.
“Day without a gay?”
Yes please. In fact, can you make it 365 days without a gay?
I’ll settle for them to just SHUT UP and keep their sexuality to themselves. They can do whatever they want in their own bedrooms, I just DO NOT CARE.
Too many people think it could never happen here. It will happen here eventualy. The only question is when.
concerning e-harmony,
mattymat said:”Another example of them using the coercive power of government to force private organizations to bend to their will.”
and cicerokid says:”WRONG” This is another example of E-harmony saying “sho me da money!!”$$$
e harmony is not what they appear to most, and certainly not “supporting traditional family values”. They never have.
News like this was the front and center of every newscast before the election. You couldn’t get away from bad news about the economy – it was nonstop and never a glimmer of anything positive. Yet today I have checked numerous news sites and noticed it’s always in the “other news” section and never a main story. News on the economy has been completely toned down since The One was elected, and the news since then is worse than the news before. The MSM makes me ill.
When humans enguage in Homosexuality, they are given over to a deviant mind.
Just look at the video. Look at the pictures of Up Your Ally. You do not have to believe me, just look at what the sick Homos are doing.
Deadly force ahould be use to protect those being attacked. It is lawful to do so.
CA Supreme Court Order….
http://www.courtinfo.ca.gov/courts/supreme/highprofile/documents/S168047_S168066_S168078-11-19-08_ORDER.pdf
Take THAT, al-Gayda!!!! Sorry, the law is on our side. Now head back to the bathhouse and shut the hell up.
You do realize that it’s going in front of the CA Supreme Court where there’s about a 95% chance it’ll be overturned, right?
I believe your estimate is overly generous considering that they denied the stay of the operation.
Everyone already knew that would happen, though.
The anti Prop 8 violence should called Homosexual Kristallnacht — just replace the swastika with “=”.
This game has to stop, California has voted twice now, enough already. All the money spent on this fiasco could have done some fantastic projets around this state. What a flippin waste.
Yes, like treating all the diseases and mental trauma that this particular deviant lifestyle causes.
Yo’ momma, Mooks!
Or the money could have just as well stayed in working folk’s wallets, AJ.
I think the vote totals to defend marriage will just keep getting higher if the 3-4 elites (perhaps homosexual themselves?) keep ticking off the public.
That whole explanation is rife with confusion. Even the word, “agency” in this context, is Mormon-speak. Christ makes clear in the Word that He came to die for the sin of mankind. He rose again on the 3rd day and ascended to heaven, and all who believe in Him will be saved. For it is by faith you are saved, and not of works, so that no man may boast. It is a gift of God, through Jesus Christ alone. Mormons reject faith as a means to salvation. That’s why you have to follow the D&C, PGP and BOM, as well as the ongoing JD’s from the present church leaders. It’s a changing landscape and the target keeps moving.
Lucifer (Satan) is a created angel who sought to exalt himself as equal with God. God cast him out of heavn with 1/3 of the other created angels, and Satan’s entire mission is to deceive, distract and confuse mankind in the hope that he can grab their souls before they are committed to Christ and sealed by His Holy Spirit, no longer accessible to Satan.
Jesus Christ is not a created being and is therefore not Satan’s “brother”, spirit or otherwise. God is triune, manifest in 3 persons, one Holy Trinity; not separate beings as Mormons teach.
Christ never was equal to or similar to or related to Lucifer. This belief if exclusive to Mormons and denies the eternal existence of Jesus Christ.
That is why folks take issue with the claim that Mormons are Christians.
Even you, Cosmo, separate Mormons from Christians by referring to us as “Huckabee Christians”. It is by its self-imposed segregation, and explanation for that segregation, that Mormonism illuminats its distinction from followers of Christ.
(sorry for the typos; new keyboard.)
vickisoup – Well, from your post I can see you don’t believe in the Oneness Jesus spoke of in his Prayer in John 17, so we’ll skip that question and throw that chapter out. But I do have other questions for you.
Do you believe in the Rapture? If so, are you a pre-trib, mid-trib or post-trib believer?
Tongues or no tongues? Predestined or Forordination or totally individual choice?
Once saved, always saved? Or can you lose your salvation?
Do you believe in the Restoration of All Things?
Are you a Daniel 70-weeker?
Does Jesus now have a body in His resurrected state or no? Or are you one of the ones who thinks part of the punishment for our sins is His having a body for eternity?
Are we joint-heirs with Christ and Israelites by inheritance based on belief or is the Gentile destiny different than the Israel one?
Who inhabits the earth during the Millenial reign of Christ?
Do you believe in Faith only or James 2:17-20 that says we’re not saved by faith alone but must have works as well?
Is Jesus going to have to step down from his glorified state so you can partake of His glory and be like Him as Paul says? Or will He raise you up? In what way will you be like Him?
And the most important one… are you a child of God for real or just metaphorically speaking? Kind of like an adopted pet? Not same species so to speak, or of the same species as in real child? Whose exact image were you made in?
For 20 years I learned all the answers to the above questions and oh so many more. Do you have any idea of the diversity of teaching from church to church even on the basics of salvation??? Even in evangelical churches?
I look forward to your answers on all of the above… Thanks.
PS – Answers are to be based solely on evangelical teachings.
Oh yeah, and about that Daniel 70 weeker… are we currently suspended between the 69th and 70th week, or where would you say we are in that prophesied time period.. has the 70th week started yet?
Little bit of advice for those who are listed on antigayblacklist.com….or anyone in the gay rights extremists path
Be sure your prepared to defend you and your family if these mobs decide to attack you.
From what Ive been reading and seeing… that may not be too far off.
I can tell you personally if anyone or any group attacks me and my wife on our property I will use my firearm in defense.
Oh AND… Vickisoup needs to answer those questions. I didn’t ask anyone but her!
Joy said:
Do you remember, Joy, how you were making claims that the Bible taught different levels of heaven and different levels of glory in resurrection? And then I pointed out the context, which refuted your claims. Then I asked you to kindly respond, but you refused?
How then do you now ask someone else to answer questions?
To the point, Ephesians 4 lists 7 things that the Church is to be united on. Christians do not have to be united on everything in order to still be Christians (see Romans 14, for example). But some things are non-negotiable, according to Ephesians 4. You hold to a different Father, a different Spirit, a different Lord, and a different faith (the Christian faith is monotheism, as was Judaism before it, unlike the polytheistic Mormonism).
Now either answer the questions that have already been asked of you, or go away.
Is there any chance you might take the debate elsewhere (please)?
It’s bad enough to go off topic, but then to stipulate that you are only having a conversation between yourselves is pushing it even further.
Ugh
and I heard not until March before all this starts up.
Joy,
Vickisoup does not have to answer any of your bloody questions. Now, bugger off back to topic.
Homo Americans need to keep their sex lives private. That is an order!
I have a question with Dont Ask Dont Tell policy In The US Military…
Why does Obama and liberals want to repeal this policy?
Im in The State Defense Force, so I do augmentation of The National Guard… and have to use the barracks and latrine while on duty. Personally Im not comfortable with taking a shower with a gay person next to me (Our latrine doesnt have any dividers in the shower).
When I go back to The Army National Guard and do US Army basic… Itll be very weird for me to shower with homosexual men. I think something like that needs to stay dont ask dont tell or they shouldnt be in the military.
No, Vickisoup doesn’t have to answer. No doubt she can’t. I didn’t expect answers.
I did that to give you an example of how you treat Mormons. You expect people to answer what takes years of study in comments on a blog. Noone is TOTALLY educated on what their Church Canonized beliefs are. Everyone is at different stages of knowledge. But you all think you’re the only ones who can interpret Scripture… but none of you agree either. Why can’t you guys just give it a rest? Why can’t you just acknowledge LDS as allies in the morality war? Why the constant attacks?
We’re taking it from the front lines by the Gays, and you all are shooting from the rear…. seems it should be the other way around though. lol
I haven’t seen you defend LDS like you are Vickisoup. Why is that? Why don’t you tell the evangelicals who just can’t seem to stop attacking LDS to bugger off? Seems that too should be aimed at the gays…
Yea, and what was it spent by the anti-Prop 8 crowd to keep it off the ballot, like $25 million? At least that was spent in false advertising.
Like I said, it isn’t about marriage, and it really isn’t about money either. It’s about changing culture and silencing the opponent.
Wow, I just voted yes on this proposition and it’s already in the courts.
I am actually sad for my State and my Country.
Out of 52 counties in California only about 8 counties voted against prop. 8.
The lowest common denominator now determines rule.
My faith in the system is gone.
And you do also realize there’s also actioni right now to recall these activist judges? It’s happened before.
I am former LDS.
jangar, if Prop 8 wasn’t telling the truth about gay marriage being taught in schools, then why did the CTA (teachers’ union) spend over a million dollars trying to defeat it? If it wasn’t about what gets taught in schools, why would any teacher be OK with its union spending dues on such a measure?
but every christian knows the basics..the nature of God..the Trinity…which you mormons deny. therefore you are not christian.
Christians ALL agree on the Trinity, the Cross, the divinity of Jesus, etc. thats what makes us christian, and mormons disagree on these ESSENTIALS thats why mormons are NOT christian.
you try to shift the focus to secondary issues that we disagree about, but are not the essence of the faith.
you sound like a liberal wacko. telling the truth is an ‘attack’ cry me a river. you are the ones claiming to be christians. but you are not. you call christians apostate, and the mormons the only true church, so why do you want to be associated with us anyway?? its simple, stop calling yourselves christian. as long as you do, expect to be ‘attacked’
ie disagreed with by real christians…
I’m very pleased for you lady!!
what was it that led you out of the kingdom of the cults?
joy’s questions are very typical. When I was in the LDS church, I attended seminary every morning before high school and we learned how to debate with Christians by trying to confuse the discussion and focus on the doctrinal differences between the denominations, in order to cause non-Mormons to question their faith. Thanks for the support, right4life.
The bottom line folks, is homosexuals may only claim marriage as a right if they can prove that there life style is not a choice, but that they are born that way. Anti-discrimination laws apply only when there is no choice of circumstances by those being discriminated against.
The good news is that 40 years have past with not one accepted scientific study that will validate homosexual claims. Scientific methods requires multiple experiment that confidences levels are assigned to. The studies are then peer revued and after a time, are accepted or rejected.
The mathematical probability of discovery decreases over time. That is why the left is so earnestly trying to made gay marriage legal now. They know time is not on their side.
What led me out was the ways of deception we were being taught to confuse others. I asked questions, challenged their premise and methods, was falsely accused of being “immoral” (sex before marriage…at age 15) and left. They tried relentlessly to get me to come back, sending missionaries to my home for years. My parents (non-LDS) were so happy when I was old enough to demand, on my own, that they stop coming.
It’s beginning to look like 1860…
FamilyMan, not meaning to argue with your post except just want to point out that it is also illegal to discriminate on the basis of one’s religion, which does involve choice.
At least it’s illegal now to discriminate on the basis of religion.
Duhn duhn duuuhhhhhnnnnn…..
I would have stayed out of the LDS discussion (because for the topic of this post we are on the same side, not opposite sides), but Cosmo’s mention of Huckabee requires an appropriate response…
On November 19th, 2008 at 3:42 pm, Cosmo said:
On November 19th, 2008 at 8:16 pm, vickisoup said:
So basically, Cosmo has shown that Mike Huckabee was correct when he asked, “Don’t Mormons believe that Christ and Lucifer are brothers?”
And Mitt Romney was dishonest when he didn’t answer “yes” to that question. Another LDS even said so.
On November 19th, 2008 at 10:41 pm, vickisoup said:
Have you seen exmormon.net? I found this page very helpful in understanding the differences in theology.
vicki
Religion in the original Bill of Rights. It has nothing to do with newly discovered rights.
Correction to my previous post…
Mormon Doc was not talking about Mitt Romney’s response to Mike Huckabee’s question.
Mormon Doc said this:
I needed to correct my earlier mistake, but I’m done with talking LDS/Evangelical differences in this thread.
Back to being unified in our stand against Al-Gayda terrorists and extortionists.
Thanks for the reference, ITTRP.
And this being my last on the LDS issue, too, I will say that I have tried to refrain from studying too much about their doctrine, finding it beneficial to point people to the truth of the bible and allow its beauty to speak to the heart of the listener. And, to joy, I would only wish to say that I have not attacked the LDS church; I have only pointed out what I was taught when attending.
Vickisoup – And I am a former evangelical. 20 years of serious Bible study, with scriptures twisted every way they could get twisted.
I even took Greek so I could translate the Bible for myself to unravel all the false teachings. Then I found out that none of the Scholars agree on what the Greek means. Or the Hebrew for that matter.
What led me out of the every wind of doctrine churches was reading the Book of Mormon, studying the LDS teachings and then praying about it. The same Holy Ghost that had 20 years prior testified to the Divinity of Christ, testified to the truth of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.
Then I read the entire New Testament with the new knowledge and it made perfect sense. Gone were all the doctrines of men.
The bottom line about Satan is that he is Satan and is the father of all lies. He would do anything to keep us all battling between ourselves. He is evil through and through. Huckabee insinuated that we, as LDS, worship Lucifer along side of Jesus Christ.
And again, there is NO WAY to explain any of this in context by pulling one thing out and twisting it out of context.
Jesus many times didn’t answer his accusers either. He knew their questions were traps. We can’t answer anything without you twisting it all up and throwing it back at us remaining nothing like what we say.
We believe we are ALL brothers and sisters. And NO, Jesus wasn’t CREATED!! What a way to twist things up. NONE of us has said that or implied it. You are so resistant to simply hearing us out that you continue to twist everything said into something we didn’t say.
I could decimate the evangelical beliefs using the same Bible you all are quoting. What would be the point? I could open the Bible and take many things out in one sentence snipits and make you all sound like lunatics. Again, what would be the point.
The fact is you’re so insecure in your own faith, you feel the need to rip apart others’ faith. Why? Is that Christlike? Are any of you showing the LOVE of Christ while you do this?
I know whatever you’re selling isn’t true because I see your fruits and the ugly way you treat anyone who doesn’t agree with you.
Carry on. Feel proud of yourselves in your contentious attitudes. Believe in your creeds that were VOTED ON by men long after the death of the Apostles. Ignore what Paul warned about the apostasy that would kill the Church from within. Ignore that Jesus said He would be rejected by that generation.
Ignore the Dark Ages. Ignore anything that you simply don’t like. Pick and choose what you like and what’s easy and ignore the rest. Keep saying saved by faith alone, when James and Jesus Himself tells you otherwise.
The Scriptures have to be taken as a whole.
We are all children of God. Brothers and Sisters. Jesus died for ALL. And the day will come that EVERY KNEE will bow and every tongue will confess Jesus is Lord. And it will be willingly, not forced. Because He came to save the world. Not just a few, but all of us. The only ones lost will be a handful such as Judas, who KNEW the truth because he saw Him and knew Him, but betrayed Him anyway.
For though there be that are called gods, whether in heaven or in earth, (as there be gods many, and lords many,)
6 But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him. 1 Cor 8:5,6
And speaking of Satan, he comes to stir up contentions. He’s doing a great job!
And there you have it.
ITTRP, Thanks for the link. ..an excellent resource.
I wonder how the anti Prop 8 crowd would argue the theory of evolution.
So, which testimony is true for you: The former or the latter?
Both
Jesus Christ is Lord and the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints is His Church restored through the prophet Joseph Smith.
The “latter” of course; they’re latter day saints.
I break myself up sometimes.
Ezekial 37:16-20
The Stick of Judah is the Bible
The Stick of Ephraim is the Book of Mormon
Reading the Book of Mormon helps me love the Bible more. Understand it better. They go together.
This thread is really off topic, but I enjoyed all of you.
Have a very good night.
g’nite, FM
Jet, yer killin’ me!
I’ve read the Book of Mormon once to… was tough getting through so much heresy.
Oh and thanks for the link ITTRP.
Yeah, and Islam is the “Church” restored through the Prophet Muhammad.
So much heresy, so little time.
joy, if Mormonism is compatible with Christianity, then why won’t Mormons let their children attend any other church with their friends? It cannot be because they are afraid they will hear bad things about Mormonism. I guarantee you that there are no Christian churches with which I’ve ever been associated in 28 years that have taught anything about Mormonism, good or bad. There are no evil “Christian ministers”, as was previously implied. Evangelical churches do not teach about other religions. We are taught from the bible. Why are Mormons so afraid of their children attending another church and being taught from the bible?
So much venom from so-called Christians. How inspiring.
I’m sure your Savior is well-pleased.
(um…is that your answer to my question?)
Joy,
Jesus loves you, and so do I.