eHarmony forced to offer same-sex dating services; Update: And now, a class-action lawsuit
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So, this is “progress?” eHarmony, a Christian-targeted dating website, gets sued by a gay man demanding that the business match him up with a same-sex partner. The New Jersey Attorney General intervenes on behalf of the gay plaintiff and forces eHarmony to change its entire business model. To be clear: The company never refused to do business with anyone. Their great “sin” was not providing a specialized service that litigious gay people demanded they provide. This case is akin to a meat-eater suing a vegetarian restaurant for not offering him a ribeye or a female patient suing a vasectomy doctor for not providing her hysterectomy services. Sadly, eHarmony has settled . I wish they hadn’t, but I understand the decision given the chilling antics of the anti-Prop. 8 mob. The company agreed not only to offer same-sex dating services on a new site, but also to offer six-month subscriptions for free to 10,000 gay users. Behold the submission:
Coming soon to EHarmony — Adam and Steve.
The Pasadena-based dating website, heavily promoted by Christian evangelical leaders when it was founded, has agreed in a civil rights settlement to give up its heterosexuals-only policy and offer same-sex matches.
EHarmony was started by psychologist Neil Clark Warren, who is known for his mild-mannered television and radio advertisements. It must not only implement the new policy by March 31 but also give the first 10,000 same-sex registrants a free six-month subscription.
“That was one of the things I asked for,” said Eric McKinley, 46, who complained to New Jersey’s Division on Civil Rights after being turned down for a subscription in 2005.
The company said that Warren was not giving interviews on the settlement. But attorney Theodore Olson, who issued a statement on the company’s behalf, made clear that it did not agree to offer gay matches willingly. “Even though we believed that the complaint resulted from an unfair characterization of our business,” Olson said, “we ultimately decided it was best to settle this case with the attorney general since litigation outcomes can be unpredictable.”
The settlement, which did not find that EHarmony broke any laws, calls for the company to either offer the gay matches on its current venue or create a new site for them. EHarmony has opted to create a site called Compatiblepartners.net.
Warren had said in past interviews that he didn’t want to feature same-sex services on EHarmony — which matches people based on long questionnaires concerning personality traits, relationship history and interests — because he felt he didn’t know enough about gay relationships.
eHarmony had been previously sued by a lesbian looking to force the company to match her up with another woman and by a married man who sought to force the company to hook him up in an adulterous relationship.
Perhaps heterosexual men and women should start filing lawsuits against gay dating websites and undermine their business. Coerced tolerance and diversity-by-fiat cut both ways.
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GayPatriot West gives eHarmony’s capitulation thumbs down.
Update 4pm Eastern 11/20. Geez. Now, a California judge has approved a class-action lawsuit by gays against eHarmony. When it rains, it pours:
(onlinedatingmagazine.com – November 20, 2008) A California Superior Court judge has certified a class action lawsuit against eHarmony.com for discrimination against gays and lesbians in California. The news comes one day after eHarmony settled a case in the State of New Jersey where a gay man accused the company of discrimination. In that settlement, eHarmony agreed to open up a service that matches gays and lesbians.
That announcement had no affect in the California case, which is moving forward.
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….it’s Obama’s fault.
It isn’t, because omnivores are not a protected class under NJ law.
I wish eHarmony wouldn’t have settled, because I would be interested to see how the case would turn out. Does the internet qualify as “public accommodations”? Is it a “place” under the meaning of the statute? (By the way, federal law does not prohibit discrimination based on sexual orientation.)
Hey, I suppose I could sue too if e-Harmony doesn’t provide me with a drop-dead gorgeous 21 year old heiress babe who doesn’t care who she messes around with!
You’re missing the point. eHarmony is a dating site. That is a single service. They are not offering it to some people based on sexual preference. That is discriminatory. There’s no difference between a man looking for a woman on the site and a man looking for a man. The service offered is the same – dating. Men date women, men date men, and women date women. All the same. All equal.
And yes, the courts can tell you how to run your business because your business is part of a society that LETS you run that business and has rules that you have to follow to be ALLOWED to operate. Safety rules, licensing rules, tax rules, and rules against discrimination.
eHarmony folded because they knew that they would lose. Because they knew that they were wrong.
Again, this is a civil rights issue. Go back and look at some of the things segregationists said in the 1950s and look at what you’re saying. Sounds familiar? These people are as equal as you and me and are entitled to all the same things you and I have, including that you have to serve them if you operate a business.
The bigotry and crude jokes here say a lot about MM’s readers. I’m surprised most of you knuckle-draggers know how to turn on a computer.
It’s a culture war.
Anybody out there with kids (or know a kid they care about) needs to consider what these kids have to deal with in the public school system (short list):
Told there is no God
Sex is okay, even homosexual sex
We evolved from apes
If your parents did not vote for Obama, they are morons
2 + 2 = anything you want it to
ALWAYS question authority (ie: parents)
…and a host of other issues and political correct crap!
So listen to the kids, be involved, take the time to lovingly correct and educate, and maybe we can turn the tide on this war in the very near future. Otherwise the other side will only increase their numbers.
What about the rights of Muslims with that dog?
This is the start of anarchy in this country. This is what happens when liberal beliefs and politics happen.
But, remember a professor once told me the “Pendulum Always Swings Back”
All doubt should be gone for those who are wondering why the LDS(Mormon)Church and other churches asked their members to support Prop. 8. This lawsuit is an example of why. The LDS Church rarely asks it members to support a cause like Prop. 8 but a definition of “Marriage” is required. There is an active frontal assault on the family and the famliy needs to be defended. There is a war for the hearts and minds of men. The time has long passed to speak up and take a stand. I am going to contact my elected reps and ask for their definition of marriage and where do they stand.
There will only be more of this crazyness coming.
The suit would have failed. Because of this line.
The offered ways to locate heterosexual partners. If someone in the gay community wants a straight-date… eHarmony might very well be required to offer that service, as it is the service they offer.
No gay person was refused the service they offered. A man can locate a woman, or a woman could locate a man. That’s what on their menu.
So are my kids going to see eHarmony TV ads with happy gay couples hugging and kissing telling the world how they “connected” on eHarmony?
How can one group wield so much power and how do they find courts to assist them?
eaglehaslanded
Go back and study NATURAL LAW and it’s place in the writing of the U.S. Constitutions.
Aren’t you late for a nambla meeting?
Of course my previous comment was directed at the knuckle dragger known as eagle has landed. snort.
Are you watching me? Do you have a video camera outside my house?
Sir, I would thrash you but I have to put some salve on my knuckles…
THE LAWSUITS ARE NOT OVER – THE CHURCH IS NEXT. Wait until gay marriage is a right, they’ll sue us out of existance.
bet you’re wearing your starched brown shirt!! fascist troll..I would try to explain, but using logic on you is casting pearls before swine
All the conservative movement needs to do is attack the civil rights demands using the arguments of NATURAL LAW.
and what do you say about black only dating sites???
Hypocrite. Liar. Nazi.
Away with ye troll–lest my cane find your backside!!
Not really. Civil Rights laws have not swung back on race discrimination, sex discrimination, suffrage, accommodations for the disabled, or anything else. Once a minority group gets rights, the majority comes around pretty quickly to see that the world is a better place for it. For instance, I don’t hear nearly as many conservatives since Lawrence v. Texas who say homosexuals should not have the right to do what they want behind closed doors, whereas at the time of the decision all I heard was how sodomy was the end of civilization as we knew it.
It happens that young voters — who know many more open homosexuals than their parents did — are moving overwhelmingly in support of gay rights. It is only a matter of time before gays everywhere are protected by discrimination laws, and marriage bans are lifted. I’m not trying to say what should happen, but that’s my opinion of the irreversible tide of minority protection.
Yep.
Waiting to hear lefties here say, “No, that won’t happen!” or “Yeah, churches can’t discriminate either!”
Kiss the First Amendment goodbye, folks.
Instead of suing, any group left out should just start their own dating service.
Because behind closed doors is different from taking away the First Amendment rights of others.
Or do you think it’s okay to force churches to do something that violates their teachings?
this has nothing to do with rights. it is all about the suppression of freedom of religion, and having the gay lifestyle shoved down our throats.
you support a bunch of pink nazis.
and freedom of religion is over.
Political correctness killed the First Amendment long ago…it’s just taking it a while to quit kicking.
And F%^K what the people want right? The people get no say. Welcome to the liberal dictatorship. Where the people are TOLD what is good for them.
Satanical tactics, whether they know it or not. I doubt they know it…just after what pleases them at any expense.
#120
Civil rights of same-sex couples have not been threatened because there never has been a civil rights for people of the same gender to be able to marry one another.
On the other hand, my civil rights have already been threatened. In practicing my rights of freedom of religion and freedom of speech, there has been much persecution by the No on Proposition 8 group. Preachers and religious people are being threatened and sued just for their beliefs.
It’s not and never has been a civil right for people of the same sex to be married, but freedom of religion is a civil right. My preacher should be able speak against the idea of homosexuality without the fear of being sued for hate speech.
This is just the tip of the iceberg of what is already happening in California and other states and what will continue to happen if marriage is not protected. Likewise, freedom of speech is in the Constitution as right.
The people of the state have spoken to uphold marriage between a man and a woman because, among other things, they recognize that if Proposition 8 had failed, many more of our true civil rights would be taken away or jeopardized. Those who are protesting need to recognize and respect the will of the people who made the right decision to protect our freedoms.
The scariest thing in America is the ignorance of the American populace. If we don’t know what our own freedoms consist of, then they will be taken away.
“If a nation expects to be ignorant and free … it expects what never was and never will be.” — Thomas Jefferson.
This is not a civil rights issue nor Equal Protection Clause under the 14th amendment because gender isn’t covered.
I see what you’re saying, but I think this is like a bar trying to get around sex discrimination laws by having urinal-only bathrooms. They can just as easily provide the same service to homosexuals, but because they choose to discriminate (which they openly admitted to for years), they shut out gays.
I’m personally reluctant to tell any private organization what they can and can’t do for religious reasons, but then again the Mormon church was officially racist until the 70s, barring blacks from becoming bishops, and I wouldn’t let them off the hook.
Hey eaglehaslanded Have you checked out NATURAL LAW yet?
That’s where you are wrong. It is not a generic dating site. And it is not discriminatory. They help men find women and woman find men. Their business specializes in that. They’d be happy to help a gay man find a woman. Though why a gay man would want a woman would be puzzling.
Ah… there it is. The elitist “I am so SM-AH-TER than you” statement.
That’s nice. Should the black posters here be more offended since “knuckle-dragger” has a history of being a derogatory term used by racists to describe blacks?
they don’t know whose they are…but they’ll find out someday…
I was parodying the eHarmony commercial, with several glowing wives saying in succession, “I met MY husband at eHarmony dot com”. Replace those images with glowing gay guys saying they got THEIR AIDS at eHarmony dot com. There’s some humor there.
Considering stats saying the average lifetime number of different partners of a gay male is around 300, and given that gay sex often involves an abnormal, unnatural, extremely unhealthy act which tends to spread disease, AIDS is certainly a possibility. If you cast a wide net, you’re gonna catch some weird stuff. Just sayin’.
what about the black muslims?? you know F@rr@kh@n?? what hook are they on??
So you would say the same before blacks gained suffrage for the first time?
Government creates IMMORALITY….immorality creates a social CRISIS….a social crisis demands (in people’s minds) a budget from taxpayers from a Corrupt government. Thus, TROLLS like “eaglehaslanded” are easy to predict:
Government = Immorality.
Immorality = Social Crisis.
Social Crisis = Demands a budget by a corrupt group of people (eaglejhaslanded) from a corrupt government which includes a corrupt court system.
…down the vortex of the proverbial toilet of our country into the cesspool below that grows by the second.
Rio
Semper Fi!
The “sexpert” on the fox website recently had an article claiming that sexual orientation has a level of attraction scale. So what if you are BI? Or mostly male oriented but only mildly attracted to women? Will eharmony have to offer a menu?
Try again. NOI has white members. If they felt they were shut out of leadership positions because of their race, they would have a perfectly legitimate Title VII suit.
SO WHAT? It used to be your right to run your business any way you wanted and target any market you choose to. So what if they wanted to serve only striaght couples. THATS THIER RIGHT, or used to be. Freedom is dead in this country.
Respect? You said a mouthful.
They have no respect for their fellow man, neighbor, Creator or law. They are lawless, noisy and VERY lost.
What a moronic comparison.
#135
Civil Rights has been one of the most destructive bills ever passed.
It has created the PC problem we have which is slowly killing freedom of speech in this country.
It forced people to be tolerant of something they should not have been forced to do which by the way when you force people against their will they become angry!
You can’t fire a minority because they sue, you can’t deny anything to a minority.
The housing market mess should be enough to prove civil rights have gone to far!
If you deny them a mortgage or credit even though they can’t pay they sue.
THE AMERICAN DREAM IS NOT A RIGHT IT IS A PRIVILEGE!
You’re a very slow reader eaglehaslanded. Wikipedia is just a click away. NATURAL LAW sport?
If you’re going to mouth off about civil rights , you better improve your knowledge of the constitution.
You can sue for anything at all, but that doesn’t mean you will succeed. The percentage of Title VII suits that succeed are miniscule, and in the ones that do, damages are usually not granted.
The alternative is for a business to decide it wants only white employees, or to serve only white patrons. Is that what you would prefer?
really? where is your supporting documentation for this?
and I have no problem with them not having white members…its called freedom of religion..
which you gay fascists want to end.
EXACTLY
Check out NATURAL LAW.
So should mens stores also be sued to carry womens clothes? SEXISM!!! Should black dating services be sued to allow white men? RACISM!!! Should gay dating services be forced to allow striaght services??? BIGOTRY!!!
So much for freedom. So much for equal rights.
has anyone ever done this with the klan??
this is ridiculous. ir a group wants only men, or women, or whites or black, or straights or gays as members
what is the big deal??? its called FREEDOM
I would prefer that they have the right to do that. I wouldn’t go ther and thier business would fail, but hey, that is the price they would pay. Its called freedom. This country used to have it.
#144 please source your Title VII suits are miniscule
It only took one yutz to put the lie out there that homosexuality is genetically determined at birth (which is false and unable to be proved), and therefore protected by civil rights.
News flash – my kid was born as a screaming, pants-pooping, childish and selfish beast and it was up to me to correct the behavior before it became a problem later in life!
Black people are born black…they cannot change (well, except Michael Jackson, and look at where that got him).
eHarmony will be forced to go into bankruptcy. Other similar web-based services will get sued and will also go bankrupt.
They will all demand bailout money, the socialist government of Barack Obama will take them over and we will have just one government-run website for all the matchmaking, dating, hookups, etc. Whether you are chistian, jew, straight, gay…it doesn’t matter. We’ll end up with the socialist “one size fits all” mantra.
It’s not spreading the wealth, it’s spreading the misery.
Granite said:
ROFL
“But Monsieur, it is only wafer thin…”
Once again here we are looking at deviant society telling us what we have to do. The responsibility of this fiasco is not with e harmony. It is the lawmakers in New Jersey who were lobbied to insert the words sexual orientation into the law. Everyone who voted for it created this problem .
I have to say it. I just do not understand why how a person has sex qualifies them for special treatment.
Just to reiterate, eHarmony CHOSE to settle this suit and CHOSE to offer same-sex services. As an earlier poster noted, they probably would have won at trial but CHOSE not to risk it.
This is a pretty good example of a private organization exercising THEIR RIGHT to run their business they way they want. You simply disagree with the manner in which they exercised that right.
still waiting for your documentation of this. I did a quick search and could find nothing.
under the threat of a lawsuit
I don’t know what the number of total suits is, but the number of those that succeed at trial is miniscule. I didn’t find any stats in a couple google searches, but if you see anything that contradicts what I have said (and you won’t) please post.
Just so any ladies present are made aware: I am a man and I ALWAYS use the Women’s restroom wherever I go. Try to stop me & I’ll sue.
Google “nation of islam” and “white members”
Hey aj, do you know anybody that wants to marry their hand?
Would they have done this without the lawsuit? NO. It was forced. Welcome to the liberal dictatorship.
So you were making it up. Got it.
Sure. Unless you’re an ignorant bigot, you should have no problem with that. Oh, wait…you ARE an ignorant bigot. My bad. Sounds like you want your kids to grow up to be ignorant bigots, too. Hopefully they’ll have teachers and peers that can override the crap you teach them.
There you go.
If you have to be forced to be tolerant, you’re an a-hole. I’m glad you’re angry. Go cry somewhere. Or maybe get out your big gun! You’re clinging to it right now! LOL.
You’re losing. We took a giant step on 11/4, and we’re not stopping until we drag all your asses out of the darknesss and into the light. If we can’t have you, we’ll get your kids. We’ll teach them to be politically correct, because it’s CORRECT.
We’ll teach them to love everyone, including those that hate them.
We’ll teach them that people are not illegal – they are all the same no matter where they are born and should be able to live where they want. We’ll teach them to respect everyone regardless of language, culture, or religion.
We’ll teach them to share, that in the words of FDR, “We have always known that heedless self-interest was bad morals; we know now that it is bad economics.” We will teach them that we are all in this together, and we need to have economic justice, and those that oppose that are selfish a-holes who should be scorned and defeated.
We’ll teach them that the only kind of intolerance that will be tolerated (and encouraged) is intolerance of intolerance. The rest will be mercilessly crushed by any means necessary, because people like that are evil and selfish and need to be punished. They need to have it shoved in their faces.
You can’t stop progress and progressives. We have always been right, and we will always be right.
Have a nice day.
It should be noted that the NJ statute the plaintiffs sued under was enacted by a democratically-elected legislative body.
#158 Ok fine.
You don’t know.
But, being an attorney I do.
There are 60,000 case filed a year as of 2005 and rising!
Were any of these sites included in the suit? Have any of them been shut down? Why not?
http://www.JDate.com
jewish.cyberdating.net
http://www.singlejew.com
http://www.shiamatch.com
salaamlove.com
http://www.BlackSingles.com
http://www.blackpeoplemeet.com
http://www.executivegaydating.com
http://www.gay.com
http://www.pridedating.com
http://www.alternativeconnections.com
http://www.rainbowchristians.com
So was Hitler. Welcome to the liberal dictatorship.
If you want to cite evidence that any black employee can win at trial when he files a Title VII suit, go ahead.
#164
Tell your story walking you moonbat.
After BHO screws up the country there will never a minority as president again and probably not liberal for years to come.
The exact same logic that lead tro every dictatorship in history. Welcome to the liberal dictatorship.
It was your claim. The fact that you can’t back it up is instructive.
No, he wasn’t. Per Ed Morrissey.
Socialism is the philosophy of failure,the creed of ignorance and preaching of envy;its inherent virtue is the equal distribution of misery.
Social justice…is practiced in Cuba, the liberal mecca….ask the Cubans in exiles, herein Miami…they know better. Of course, Michael Moore or Hussein Obama won’t come near Little Havana.
Rio
Semper Fi!
No, it wasn’t. See #142.
I disagree with Ed as do most history books.
uh yeah did that…noticed they had a member NAMED white..but other than that nothing…why don’t you provide the link from their web site, which I’ve looked at, but don’t have the time to search through
YOU made the statement, why is it so hard for you to back it up???
As Horace Greeley once said, common sense is very uncommon. Actions such as this only trivialize – indeed, make a mockery of – the efforts of gays striving to achieve rights that many conservatives support for them.
The statement from the attorney-general’s office,“I applaud the decision of eHarmony to settle this case and extend its matching services to those seeking same-sex relationships,” is a reminder that it’s more prudent to please Big Brother than to anger him.
Yep.
I’ll be the broken record – again – and say that this is yet another example of the opposite worldview “thing”.
Existentialists/statists,etc. believe only in money, sex, and power.
Your comment is consistent with this sentence, and is absolutely correct.
oh I did notice this from their web site…
We believe that intermarriage or race mixing should be prohibited. We want the religion of Islam taught without hinderance [sic] or suppression.”
so you say they have white members, but they don’t want interracial marriage??? huh??? please
I’ve seen ads for Jewish dating sites (I’m not). Nothing wrong with that at all. In fact, I believe it’s a good idea for people of like-minds to find each other. I never viewed them as being discriminatory against me. I just did not need the services they offered.
Are they next?
To those that defend the grounds on which eHarmony was forced to capitulate, but on the other threads call people crazy for believing that the churches might be forced by the government to marry gays (or lose their 501c(3) status or other means of extortion), you are being a bit hypocritical.
I previously agreed with those that said that the churches could not be forced to do it, but after seeing things like this I am no longer so sure.
Wow. Just wow. Eagledouche now advocates the Khmer Rouge method of child indoctrination.
more from the NOI web site..
7. WE BELIEVE this is the time in history for the separation of the so-called Negroes and the so-called white Americans. We believe the black man should be freed in name as well as in fact. By this we mean that he should be freed from the names imposed upon him by his former slave masters. Names which identified him as being the slave master’s slave. We believe that if we are free indeed, we should go in our own people’s names–the black people of the Earth.
and unlike you I CAN PROVIDE A LINK…
link
and that is from THEIR website..
nice try
Does that mean your leaving? Take your friends with you.
you are a sick piece of trash. of course we all know you wouldn’t say anything like this to our faces
It’s also akin to white-owned restaurants and businesses that used to deny blacks service.
What’s the problem here? Gays aren’t being discriminated against and eHarmony just expanded its potential client base. Do you guys think eHarmony will have to start offering services for polygamists and children?
Hey MORON. HEY eaglehaslanded. GET OFF YOUR HIGH HORSE AND ADDRESS THE REAL ISSUE.
Natural rights was the language that later liberal thinkers preferred. Thomas Jefferson, echoing Locke, appealed to unalienable rights in the Declaration of Independence, “We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.”
yeah we’ve heard this before from Hitler, Stalin, et al…
just more proof, as if any were needed, that the gays are a bunch of hate-filled NAZIS.
First off, I’m gay, and I’m positively ashamed of the way the gay community has been acting these last few weeks.
For the record, I opposed Prop. 8. I did not oppose it because of my sexual orientation, but because of my conservative-libertarian political beliefs; I believe that government should get out of the marriage business altogether. However, Prop. 8 won, and all this childish acting out by the gay community is doing is damaging any credibility they may have had.
Additionally, the suit against eHarmony was stupid. It is a private business that was designed to cater to a specific set of clients. An enterprising member of the gay community could have come up with a gay equivalent version of eHaromony and it would have succeeded (or folded) on its own merits, just as eHarmony has succeeded on its own merits.
Forcing a business to not be selective in its customer base not only violates the prinicples of the free market, but it has also gotten this country into its current financial mess.
If I were the owner of eHarmony, I’d close up shop rather than be forced by an outside party to do business in a manner that is inconsistant with my beliefs.
Crappy comparison.
How do you figure?
homosexuality is not a TRAIT…it is a choice. it is not immutable
Eagle will be held accountable….at some point, all miscreants must meet their maker……
Thank you vic.
Christians do not hate homosexuals, but we are called to stand up for what is moral in all we do.
eagle isn’t on a ‘high horse’. He rides in on Wyrm, and blathers diabolical nonsense about forcing change on us & telling us to have a nice day.
Lucifer told Jesus ‘you’re hungry; if you are the son of G-d use your power to turn these stones into bread…’
Same star falling to earth.
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How do you figure?
Because this is not a civil rights issue. It is an issue about a business having the right to be selective in its service based on its own business model. Don’t like thier model? Go elsewhere. There are no laws, state federal or otherwise telling eharmony not to serve gays like there was with southern laws. Like I said, a crappy example. But it clearly shows what is coming for the rest of us. Your business model must follow state enforced rules. Welcome to the liberal dictatorship.
R4L:
Of course, you’re correct.
That poster’s statement is so beyond inane that it’s pathetic.
It doesn’t even pass the laugh test.
Oh, sure, choice:
Either do as we say, or risk a lawsuit.
That’s about as much of a choice as Henry Ford’s customers had, who could have any color they wanted, as long as it was black.
Or as much of a choice as a political prisoner in a tyranny has in deciding whether to sign a coerced, false confession…or to have his brains blown out by the gun that is at the back of his head (which as likely as not might happen to him anyway, even after he signs).
Yep, sure sounds like choice we can believe in.
eagle verified all I’ve been saying about public schools and the misguided agenda of the gay community by his rant.
Thank you eagle for stepping in it.
I don’t hate gays, but they sure seem to be wanting to change that.
Yes yes, people choose to be gay. And of course everyone knows the only reason they do it is because they crave attention.
Right?