eHarmony forced to offer same-sex dating services; Update: And now, a class-action lawsuit
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So, this is “progress?” eHarmony, a Christian-targeted dating website, gets sued by a gay man demanding that the business match him up with a same-sex partner. The New Jersey Attorney General intervenes on behalf of the gay plaintiff and forces eHarmony to change its entire business model. To be clear: The company never refused to do business with anyone. Their great “sin” was not providing a specialized service that litigious gay people demanded they provide. This case is akin to a meat-eater suing a vegetarian restaurant for not offering him a ribeye or a female patient suing a vasectomy doctor for not providing her hysterectomy services. Sadly, eHarmony has settled . I wish they hadn’t, but I understand the decision given the chilling antics of the anti-Prop. 8 mob. The company agreed not only to offer same-sex dating services on a new site, but also to offer six-month subscriptions for free to 10,000 gay users. Behold the submission:
Coming soon to EHarmony — Adam and Steve.
The Pasadena-based dating website, heavily promoted by Christian evangelical leaders when it was founded, has agreed in a civil rights settlement to give up its heterosexuals-only policy and offer same-sex matches.
EHarmony was started by psychologist Neil Clark Warren, who is known for his mild-mannered television and radio advertisements. It must not only implement the new policy by March 31 but also give the first 10,000 same-sex registrants a free six-month subscription.
“That was one of the things I asked for,” said Eric McKinley, 46, who complained to New Jersey’s Division on Civil Rights after being turned down for a subscription in 2005.
The company said that Warren was not giving interviews on the settlement. But attorney Theodore Olson, who issued a statement on the company’s behalf, made clear that it did not agree to offer gay matches willingly. “Even though we believed that the complaint resulted from an unfair characterization of our business,” Olson said, “we ultimately decided it was best to settle this case with the attorney general since litigation outcomes can be unpredictable.”
The settlement, which did not find that EHarmony broke any laws, calls for the company to either offer the gay matches on its current venue or create a new site for them. EHarmony has opted to create a site called Compatiblepartners.net.
Warren had said in past interviews that he didn’t want to feature same-sex services on EHarmony — which matches people based on long questionnaires concerning personality traits, relationship history and interests — because he felt he didn’t know enough about gay relationships.
eHarmony had been previously sued by a lesbian looking to force the company to match her up with another woman and by a married man who sought to force the company to hook him up in an adulterous relationship.
Perhaps heterosexual men and women should start filing lawsuits against gay dating websites and undermine their business. Coerced tolerance and diversity-by-fiat cut both ways.
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GayPatriot West gives eHarmony’s capitulation thumbs down.
Update 4pm Eastern 11/20. Geez. Now, a California judge has approved a class-action lawsuit by gays against eHarmony. When it rains, it pours:
(onlinedatingmagazine.com – November 20, 2008) A California Superior Court judge has certified a class action lawsuit against eHarmony.com for discrimination against gays and lesbians in California. The news comes one day after eHarmony settled a case in the State of New Jersey where a gay man accused the company of discrimination. In that settlement, eHarmony agreed to open up a service that matches gays and lesbians.
That announcement had no affect in the California case, which is moving forward.
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oh I did notice this from their web site…
We believe that intermarriage or race mixing should be prohibited. We want the religion of Islam taught without hinderance [sic] or suppression.”
so you say they have white members, but they don’t want interracial marriage??? huh??? please
I’ve seen ads for Jewish dating sites (I’m not). Nothing wrong with that at all. In fact, I believe it’s a good idea for people of like-minds to find each other. I never viewed them as being discriminatory against me. I just did not need the services they offered.
Are they next?
To those that defend the grounds on which eHarmony was forced to capitulate, but on the other threads call people crazy for believing that the churches might be forced by the government to marry gays (or lose their 501c(3) status or other means of extortion), you are being a bit hypocritical.
I previously agreed with those that said that the churches could not be forced to do it, but after seeing things like this I am no longer so sure.
Wow. Just wow. Eagledouche now advocates the Khmer Rouge method of child indoctrination.
more from the NOI web site..
7. WE BELIEVE this is the time in history for the separation of the so-called Negroes and the so-called white Americans. We believe the black man should be freed in name as well as in fact. By this we mean that he should be freed from the names imposed upon him by his former slave masters. Names which identified him as being the slave master’s slave. We believe that if we are free indeed, we should go in our own people’s names–the black people of the Earth.
and unlike you I CAN PROVIDE A LINK…
link
and that is from THEIR website..
nice try
Does that mean your leaving? Take your friends with you.
you are a sick piece of trash. of course we all know you wouldn’t say anything like this to our faces
It’s also akin to white-owned restaurants and businesses that used to deny blacks service.
What’s the problem here? Gays aren’t being discriminated against and eHarmony just expanded its potential client base. Do you guys think eHarmony will have to start offering services for polygamists and children?
Hey MORON. HEY eaglehaslanded. GET OFF YOUR HIGH HORSE AND ADDRESS THE REAL ISSUE.
Natural rights was the language that later liberal thinkers preferred. Thomas Jefferson, echoing Locke, appealed to unalienable rights in the Declaration of Independence, “We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.”
yeah we’ve heard this before from Hitler, Stalin, et al…
just more proof, as if any were needed, that the gays are a bunch of hate-filled NAZIS.
First off, I’m gay, and I’m positively ashamed of the way the gay community has been acting these last few weeks.
For the record, I opposed Prop. 8. I did not oppose it because of my sexual orientation, but because of my conservative-libertarian political beliefs; I believe that government should get out of the marriage business altogether. However, Prop. 8 won, and all this childish acting out by the gay community is doing is damaging any credibility they may have had.
Additionally, the suit against eHarmony was stupid. It is a private business that was designed to cater to a specific set of clients. An enterprising member of the gay community could have come up with a gay equivalent version of eHaromony and it would have succeeded (or folded) on its own merits, just as eHarmony has succeeded on its own merits.
Forcing a business to not be selective in its customer base not only violates the prinicples of the free market, but it has also gotten this country into its current financial mess.
If I were the owner of eHarmony, I’d close up shop rather than be forced by an outside party to do business in a manner that is inconsistant with my beliefs.
Crappy comparison.
How do you figure?
homosexuality is not a TRAIT…it is a choice. it is not immutable
Eagle will be held accountable….at some point, all miscreants must meet their maker……
Thank you vic.
Christians do not hate homosexuals, but we are called to stand up for what is moral in all we do.
eagle isn’t on a ‘high horse’. He rides in on Wyrm, and blathers diabolical nonsense about forcing change on us & telling us to have a nice day.
Lucifer told Jesus ‘you’re hungry; if you are the son of G-d use your power to turn these stones into bread…’
Same star falling to earth.
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How do you figure?
Because this is not a civil rights issue. It is an issue about a business having the right to be selective in its service based on its own business model. Don’t like thier model? Go elsewhere. There are no laws, state federal or otherwise telling eharmony not to serve gays like there was with southern laws. Like I said, a crappy example. But it clearly shows what is coming for the rest of us. Your business model must follow state enforced rules. Welcome to the liberal dictatorship.
R4L:
Of course, you’re correct.
That poster’s statement is so beyond inane that it’s pathetic.
It doesn’t even pass the laugh test.
Oh, sure, choice:
Either do as we say, or risk a lawsuit.
That’s about as much of a choice as Henry Ford’s customers had, who could have any color they wanted, as long as it was black.
Or as much of a choice as a political prisoner in a tyranny has in deciding whether to sign a coerced, false confession…or to have his brains blown out by the gun that is at the back of his head (which as likely as not might happen to him anyway, even after he signs).
Yep, sure sounds like choice we can believe in.
eagle verified all I’ve been saying about public schools and the misguided agenda of the gay community by his rant.
Thank you eagle for stepping in it.
I don’t hate gays, but they sure seem to be wanting to change that.
Yes yes, people choose to be gay. And of course everyone knows the only reason they do it is because they crave attention.
Right?
Yep, sure sounds like
choicechange we can believe in.Well said and greatly appreciated.
UUUGH! Me hit “on” button with club.
I take my children to Church every Sunday. You haven’t told them to preach the “gospel” of liberalism. I’ll teach them that God called homosexuality an abomonation. That there is right and wrong. That those who don’t work shouldn’t eat.
HEY FOLKS.
Trolls such as Digshot and eaglehaslanded are threatened by conservatives, otherwise they wouldn’t be on this blog.
Think of them as two year old children laying face down on the floor screaming, YOU CAN’T MAKE ME, I WANT IT I WANT IT. Infantile tantrums would be a good image to keep in mind when arguing with them.
First off, I find it pitiful that gays are using “civil rights” as a defense. patent BS. You should be ashamed that you even try to compare your petty issues with the black experience. Irish immigrants have a better argument than gays do, . Secondly, e-harmony Is NOT offered to the general public. it is my understanding that you went through a voluntary screening and that many are not accepted. I know this is true because I know people who have used the service.It’s time to show certain people what resistance can really entail.
prove its not a choice. you cannot. there are x-gay ministries, and people who have left the gay lifestyle.
they sure are a bunch of immature little nazis..perhaps they just need to grow up.
R4L, is that a choice you could make? Because as a straight man, I can safely say I could never, would never, ever ever choose to have sex with another man.
Before it is said that Christians are the ones who are hateful bigots (gotta run to work now)…
No, we are not hateful. We have our values based on God’s word. We want to make you aware of it so you don’t hurt yourself and end your life not knowing the truth. You’re fight is not with us, but with God. He made the rules, so go argue with Him.
Good for you. Seriously.
Is there a compelling reason for them to not offer their services to gays? ‘I don’t like those people’ doesn’t exactly qualify as a good reason, in my opinion. For all you guys talk about the dangerous and imagined precedents that gay marriage would set, I mean what about the precedent of preventing a group of people from using a service for absolutely no reason? If there was a dating site that arbitrarily denied service to Republicans and Christians as a matter of policy, wouldn’t that piss you off?
btw here’s the wiki page for Elijah Muhammad saying the NOI started to allow white members in the 70s. Wish I had pictures, but regardless, the point is a white man could sue NOI for membership just as a black man could sue the Mormon church to get a leadership position before they changed.
This is only going to get worse until someone takes a stand and is willing to sacrifice to bring attention to the erosion of our rights in America.
This could have been a moment like that. Instead, it’s one more step in legitimizing and rewarding the intollerant left’s strong-arm tactics.
Whoever said this is the knuckle-dragger.
You’ll get my children, when you take them from my cold, dead hands. I have every right to live my life and raise my children as I see fit. You want to “get kids” – have your own.
I DON’T NEED YOU’RE STINKIN’ APPROVAL on how I raise my children.
You wanna fight? Bring it on. Be prepared to meet with resistance.
A clear declaration of war!
This poster should be thankful for the internet, and should feel very fortunate he did not have to hurl this threat at us to our face.
Yep.
As I said, what is that screed if not a declaration of war on us?
Exactly!
Cowardly, threatening, and laced with stupid 60s-hippies drivel.
If you don’t own the business, your opinion shouldn’t matter.
To steal a line from the Left:
“If eHarmony offends you, don’t use them.”
Well, I must say that it’s refreshing (once the shock and nausea wears off) that one of you nutters is willing to put the liberal mindset out there in unambiguous language for all to see. A blunt and undeniable warning to parents everywhere.
You liberal loons want my kids? You may want to consider exactly what you’re willing to loose, and exactly how far you’re willing to go to get at them, because as God is my witness, you will have to kill me to get your way.
Coupling with the same sex is as revoting to a strait person as eating putrified meat. Eat your disgusting meat but don’t force the 98% of us who wish not to, validate your perversion.
Please do it in private.
They were not forced – they settleed which in my judgement is compromise – if e-harmony was really Christian based they would have stood on their principles. I am surprised Michelle that you are buying into their compromise – there was no excuse for them cowtowing to pressure from that same sex man. Shame on e-harmony and their founder for not standing up for truth
What’s the next trivial fortress to storm? How about beauty contests? Isn’t the very concept of a “Miss America” discriminatory against, say, a cross-dressing male?
Of course the Miss America rules don’t specifically mention a requirement to be female so maybe they’re off the hook.
How about you prove there’s an invisible man living in the sky that can hear everyone’s thoughts?
You really want to play the ‘prove it’ game with me?
uh huh…so a page from wiki says this…why couldn’t you get this from their website..as I did…and how does this square with the separation of races and no interracial marriage? sorry, ain’t buying it.
no, they cannot sue for membership…just as a gay person cannot sue to become a christian minister.
you don’t get it, obviously. if groups cannot keep out who they want..then there is no freedom of association, and NO freedom of religion..
which is what you gay nazis want.
yeah I sure do..I’ll make you look like the idiot you are.
sure ISRAEL exists, just as HE said it would.
now go ahead and disprove HIM.
moron.
If homosexuality was natural, it would have died out thousands of years ago because they CAN’T reproduce!
Stop talking for straight people. I don’t find anything about ‘coupling with the same sex’ revolting, nor do most people.
Becuase of whatever reason they want, its called freedom.
No, it wouldn’t. I just wouldn’t use it. That also is called freedom.
What are you talking about? Genetics? Evolution? Biology? Yeah, reproduction doesn’t work like that. Are you in the second grade, Cliff?
You realize how the Nazis felt about homosexuality, right?
Same as you do. How ironic. Doofus.
Would they have the freedom to stop serving blacks or the handicapped, then?
Please. Wal-Mart stopped saying ‘Merry Christmas’ a few years back and you people had a conniption. You’d freak about a dating site.
yeah tell that to Ernst Rohm (who?)
you stupid piece of trash
you must be in a great deal of pain such stupidity has to hurt!!
ever hear of the pink swastika?? DUHHHHHHHHH moron
yeah and we didn’t sue
we boycotted, and made our feeling known..unlike you fascist gays
No; I swore an oath to never have a battle of wits with the unarmed.
Homofascism.
My collie says:
Yeah, because we’re the ones out there vandalizing property, assaulting people, and threatening to “drag our asses into the light.”
You’re the bigot, you’re the intolerant one.
And you will LOSE. Truth and right always triumphs over evil. And – as I said above – you’ll “teach” my kids when you put me 6′ under.
Frickin’ coward.
Yes, if they wanted to go out of business. Because people would stop shoping there.
Again, care to back that up? Just because you support the policies of a totalitarian dictator doesn’t make the dictatorship right.
I think I’m in love!! wow!! you rock girl!!
Digshot said: nothing
CHILDISH TANTRUMS!!!!!!!!!!!!!
From that last rant of his I’d say eagle is one of those people the Obama camp tries to disassociate itself from because they are an embaressment. His frustration is obvious and will become further deranged as he realizes there will be no utopia here on earth, people cannot be forced to love each other, illegal aliens don’t care about the environment (or other liberal causes), and many other painful lessons. The people he hates and despises are far more intelligent than his Progressive Handbook told him. Plus the bills will keep arriving but no personal bailout so he will be forced to continue to waste away in some dreary job working for somebody that didn’t even vote for The One. Then the real anger will set in and it will be ugly. Everybody should hope he isn’t one of your co-wokers. LOL!
Yep.
Good point.
It cannot persist through reproduction, meaning that the “programming”, or “hard-wiring” DNA (as I’ve heard as one argument) cannot be passed on; which would indicate to me that the same somatic mutation has repeatedly occurred lots and lots and lots of times over the millennia; and continues to occur, lots and lots and lots of times, year after year after year after year…in individual after individual after individual after individual….
Sounds to me like something other than evolution and natural selection is at work there….
Makes me wonder why the gays are using nazi tactics.
OH YES THE DO LITTLE BOY
Irrelevant. Nazis also planted rose gardens. Doesn’t make gardners Nazis.
The sky was blue in Nazi Germany. The sky is blue here. Therefore this must be Nazi Germany.
Given the PC legal climate in this country, it is impossible to fight off the relentless push in the courts to impose this sickness on all of us and on our children.
I may have to take it, to some extent, because I am not willing to use force or illegality in opposition.
But, from time to time, a few red-blooded hot-heads take their rage out on the perverts. When it happens, we are all supposed to be appalled. But I am not appalled. I LMAO and tell jokes about it. With friends, I engage in mutual reinforcement of our anti-gay “bigotry.” We privately ridicule and mock them and seek to make the objects of derision in every legal way possible. I have no sympathy whatsoever for any aggressive swisher who messes with an angry straight whom he should have left alone.
it will be if the gays get their way…
You mean pink triangle, right?
http://www.ushmm.org/wlc/article.php?ModuleId=10005261
I truly feel sorry for your family, if you have one.
Does calling people schoolyard names make you feel superior?
Does threatening my rights and freedoms and family make you feel superior?
I’m Sorry now please tell me how civil rights is good for this country and not used as a sword?
Lawyer says alcohol testing device is racist
By The Associated Press • November 19, 2008
BRIDGEPORT, Conn. – A lawyer representing a man charged with drunken driving claims Connecticut’s breathalyzers discriminate against blacks.
Attorney James O. Ruane represents 40-year-old Tyrone Brown of Norwalk, who was arrested April 9 by state police on Interstate 95 in Fairfield.
In a motion filed Tuesday in Bridgeport Superior Court, Ruane asked a judge to suppress his client’s breathalyzer test results.
He contends the device used by state police and most local police departments, the Intoxilyzer 5000, discriminates against blacks.
Ruane says research shows that the lung capacity of a black man is 3 percent smaller than a white man and, therefore, black men’s test results vary from the sobriety standard set by the device.
Assistant State’s Attorney Mark Durso declined comment.
Digshot said:
There are genetically identical twins, separated from birth, where one is gay and the other is not.
That is pretty strong proof that at least some gay people aren’t born that way.
Now your turn, what proof do you have that some people must be gay purely due to genetics?
HEY Digshot
If homosexual coupling isn’t revolting to strait people, why don’t we all engage it the perverted practice?
lol, hows the weather in la, la land today?
no pink SWASTIKA duhhh
Rohm wasn’t the only homosexual in the nazi movement.
if the shoe fits sweety pie
Over 90% of the PAC money from the American Trial Lawyers Association (ATLA) goes toward the re-election of democrats.
The government stupid people deserve; the one they vote for over and over and over and over…
I have been a member of eHarmony for awhile and could see an extra matching criteria being added along side with race, smoking, and kids. It could be straight, gay, or bi.
In that case, I’ll select straight and even modify my profile to state-”Straights only please”
However, I am ending my membership when it comes up for renewal in April though and will state its because of eHarmony refusal to fight. Honestly, I would have liked for Dr. Warren to have shut the group down after giving us a six month notice and that way the gay nazi’s would not have won by forcing him to concede.
GSP
“This is Sparta!”
Figures.
” Coerced tolerance and diversity-by-fiat cut both ways.”
Oh, if only THAT were true. But it’s just wishful thinking, Michelle.
I’m an associate pastor and I fear that the time is fast approaching when churches are going to be ‘coerced’ into hiring and marrying folks who are living lives contrary to our faith and Biblical authority. What then?
Problem with this country is, it’s cornering a large portion of its population and hasn’t left anywhere for us to go. We won’t all capitulate. If they keep pushing, the lids gonna blow off.
No, the trains aren’t always on time.
Exactly. The perverted few need to prove that it is inborn so they my receive special rights.
Want to see proof of revolting… go to up your ally 2008 and only do it if you have a stainless steel stomach.
and a bucket next to you……
You should save your pity for yourself. Your earlier rant regarding the forced indoctrination (which you euphemistically referred to as teaching) of children has exposed you as a loon, and ruined whatever infinitesimal credibility you may have had in an intelligent debate.
I did appreciate your honesty, though.
Ernt Rohm was the flaming homosexual head of the Brownshirts. He probably did more that anyone to get Adolf Hitler into power. Once Hitler secured his power base and created the SS, he had Rohm and the rest of the brownshirt leadership murdered (night of the long knives if I remember correctly).
My collie says:
It’s hard to imagine that people STILL do not understand the evil that they are up against. They still think that their struggles are exclusively against flesh and blood.
link didn’t show up…try again..
Whether or not Hitler was personally involved in homosexual relationships, the evidence is clear that he knowingly and intentionally surrounded himself with practicing homosexuals from his youth. Like Roehm, Hitler seemed to prefer homosexual companions and co-workers. In addition to Roehm and Hess, two of his closest friends, Hitler filled key positions with known or suspected homosexuals.
link
Their legal defense points out that eHarmony was intended as a service to pair adults for marriage. Gays can’t legally marry in most states, and they would be remiss to offer a service they couldn’t legally fulfill.
So I suppose now that they’re forced to do so, it will be trivial to shut them down and file criminal charges against the founder. I’ve assumed that was the goal of the original lawsuit.
You would be the expert in that.
When I think of a business that stands on principle, I think of Joey Vento.
Of course, you noticed that he hasn’t addressed anyone that’s called him on his blatant discriminatory comments…
That’s ridiculuous. The politcal correctness of our age is blinding you to the facts in front of you. If it were true horny young males, whom spend most of their waking hours think about sex and aren’t the least bit interested in a relationship, would be engaging in sex with each other if/when they can’t find a female to have sex with. They don’t. Why do you suppose that is?
…and in the “irony” department, when I was reading about the eHarmony decision on news.yahoo.com, there was a link in the sidebar to a story about how sad it is that Chicago doesn’t have a public school for gay students only.
Let’s review:
* private businesses shouldn’t be allowed to choose their customers.
* public, taxpayer-funded schools should be allowed to refuse to enroll straight children.
Makes no sense to me.
I thought teh gays just wanted the right to marry. This just goes to show that there is another agenda they wish to persue.
If you don’t like a certain business, don’t patronize it. They chose to boycott El Coyote restaurant, didn’t they?
Why not start eSodomy?
Yeah, we’ll you’re not a liberal, Heather. It makes sense to them…and that’s all they care about.
persue=pursue
He won’t, because it’s indefensible. I meant what I said in #216 (which echos comments you were making at about the same time). They’d better decide what they’re willing to loose if they want to take a crack at my kids. I may go down in the fight, but at least one person is coming with me.
rfl, you honestly have no knowledge of the Nazi persecution of homosexuals? The link was from the Holocaust Museum.
If I was Dr. Warren, I would match each one with a gerbil. If they complained i would just point to the computer and say that was the match it came up with.
eHarmony should’ve fought it. Now Al-Gayda is going to be more emboldened to destroy anything heteronormative.
Somebody needs to sue the gay dating/hookup/whatever services too.
I’m not going to wade through the stupid “you bigots hate gays” comments. Warren founded the service based on his knowledge of heterosexual relationships and what factors he thought made them successful. Plain and simple. The opportunity exists for an expert in gay relationships to found their own site.
If it was mine, I’d shut it down before I’d cave. Re-open on servers in China or Cuba where people have more civil rights than we do…
Because some Nazis believed homosexuality was a sickness that could be cured, they designed policies to “cure” homosexuals of their “disease” through humiliation and hard work. Guards ridiculed and beat homosexual prisoners upon arrival, often separating them from other inmates.
HMMMMMMMMMMM!!!!/sarc