eHarmony forced to offer same-sex dating services; Update: And now, a class-action lawsuit

By Michelle Malkin  •  November 20, 2008 12:59 AM

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So, this is “progress?” eHarmony, a Christian-targeted dating website, gets sued by a gay man demanding that the business match him up with a same-sex partner. The New Jersey Attorney General intervenes on behalf of the gay plaintiff and forces eHarmony to change its entire business model. To be clear: The company never refused to do business with anyone. Their great “sin” was not providing a specialized service that litigious gay people demanded they provide. This case is akin to a meat-eater suing a vegetarian restaurant for not offering him a ribeye or a female patient suing a vasectomy doctor for not providing her hysterectomy services. Sadly, eHarmony has settled . I wish they hadn’t, but I understand the decision given the chilling antics of the anti-Prop. 8 mob. The company agreed not only to offer same-sex dating services on a new site, but also to offer six-month subscriptions for free to 10,000 gay users. Behold the submission:

Coming soon to EHarmony — Adam and Steve.

The Pasadena-based dating website, heavily promoted by Christian evangelical leaders when it was founded, has agreed in a civil rights settlement to give up its heterosexuals-only policy and offer same-sex matches.

EHarmony was started by psychologist Neil Clark Warren, who is known for his mild-mannered television and radio advertisements. It must not only implement the new policy by March 31 but also give the first 10,000 same-sex registrants a free six-month subscription.

“That was one of the things I asked for,” said Eric McKinley, 46, who complained to New Jersey’s Division on Civil Rights after being turned down for a subscription in 2005.

The company said that Warren was not giving interviews on the settlement. But attorney Theodore Olson, who issued a statement on the company’s behalf, made clear that it did not agree to offer gay matches willingly. “Even though we believed that the complaint resulted from an unfair characterization of our business,” Olson said, “we ultimately decided it was best to settle this case with the attorney general since litigation outcomes can be unpredictable.”

The settlement, which did not find that EHarmony broke any laws, calls for the company to either offer the gay matches on its current venue or create a new site for them. EHarmony has opted to create a site called Compatiblepartners.net.

Warren had said in past interviews that he didn’t want to feature same-sex services on EHarmony — which matches people based on long questionnaires concerning personality traits, relationship history and interests — because he felt he didn’t know enough about gay relationships.

eHarmony had been previously sued by a lesbian looking to force the company to match her up with another woman and by a married man who sought to force the company to hook him up in an adulterous relationship.

Perhaps heterosexual men and women should start filing lawsuits against gay dating websites and undermine their business. Coerced tolerance and diversity-by-fiat cut both ways.

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GayPatriot West gives eHarmony’s capitulation thumbs down.

Update 4pm Eastern 11/20. Geez. Now, a California judge has approved a class-action lawsuit by gays against eHarmony. When it rains, it pours:

(onlinedatingmagazine.com – November 20, 2008) A California Superior Court judge has certified a class action lawsuit against eHarmony.com for discrimination against gays and lesbians in California. The news comes one day after eHarmony settled a case in the State of New Jersey where a gay man accused the company of discrimination. In that settlement, eHarmony agreed to open up a service that matches gays and lesbians.

That announcement had no affect in the California case, which is moving forward.

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  1. #201
    On November 20th, 2008 at 11:11 am, sonofdy said:

    Yep, sure sounds like choice change we can believe in.

  2. #202
    On November 20th, 2008 at 11:11 am, Salt said:

    On November 20th, 2008 at 11:01 am, Vic said:

    Well said and greatly appreciated.

  3. #203
    On November 20th, 2008 at 11:13 am, tre said:

    I’m surprised most of you knuckle-draggers know how to turn on a computer.

    UUUGH! Me hit “on” button with club.

    You’re losing. We took a giant step on 11/4, and we’re not stopping until we drag all your asses out of the darknesss and into the light. If we can’t have you, we’ll get your kids. We’ll teach them to be politically correct, because it’s CORRECT.

    I take my children to Church every Sunday. You haven’t told them to preach the “gospel” of liberalism. I’ll teach them that God called homosexuality an abomonation. That there is right and wrong. That those who don’t work shouldn’t eat.

  4. #204
    On November 20th, 2008 at 11:14 am, FamilyMan said:

    HEY FOLKS.
    Trolls such as Digshot and eaglehaslanded are threatened by conservatives, otherwise they wouldn’t be on this blog.
    Think of them as two year old children laying face down on the floor screaming, YOU CAN’T MAKE ME, I WANT IT I WANT IT. Infantile tantrums would be a good image to keep in mind when arguing with them.

  5. #205
    On November 20th, 2008 at 11:15 am, MNUSMCDavid said:

    First off, I find it pitiful that gays are using “civil rights” as a defense. patent BS. You should be ashamed that you even try to compare your petty issues with the black experience. Irish immigrants have a better argument than gays do, . Secondly, e-harmony Is NOT offered to the general public. it is my understanding that you went through a voluntary screening and that many are not accepted. I know this is true because I know people who have used the service.It’s time to show certain people what resistance can really entail.

  6. #206
    On November 20th, 2008 at 11:16 am, right4life said:

    Yes yes, people choose to be gay. And of course everyone knows the only reason they do it is because they crave attention.

    Right?

    prove its not a choice. you cannot. there are x-gay ministries, and people who have left the gay lifestyle.

    they sure are a bunch of immature little nazis..perhaps they just need to grow up.

  7. #207
    On November 20th, 2008 at 11:17 am, Red State Skeptic said:

    homosexuality is not a TRAIT…it is a choice. it is not immutable

    R4L, is that a choice you could make? Because as a straight man, I can safely say I could never, would never, ever ever choose to have sex with another man.

  8. #208
    On November 20th, 2008 at 11:17 am, jangar said:

    Before it is said that Christians are the ones who are hateful bigots (gotta run to work now)…

    No, we are not hateful. We have our values based on God’s word. We want to make you aware of it so you don’t hurt yourself and end your life not knowing the truth. You’re fight is not with us, but with God. He made the rules, so go argue with Him.

  9. #209
    On November 20th, 2008 at 11:19 am, b-cat said:

    On November 20th, 2008 at 11:17 am, Red State Skeptic said:

    R4L, is that a choice you could make? Because as a straight man, I can safely say I could never, would never, ever ever choose to have sex with another man.

    Good for you. Seriously.

  10. #210
    On November 20th, 2008 at 11:19 am, Digshot said:

    How do you figure?
    Because this is not a civil rights issue. It is an issue about a business having the right to be selective in its service based on its own business model. Don’t like thier model? Go elsewhere. There are no laws, state federal or otherwise telling eharmony not to serve gays like there was with southern laws. Like I said, a crappy example. But it clearly shows what is coming for the rest of us. Your business model must follow state enforced rules. Welcome to the liberal dictatorship.

    Is there a compelling reason for them to not offer their services to gays? ‘I don’t like those people’ doesn’t exactly qualify as a good reason, in my opinion. For all you guys talk about the dangerous and imagined precedents that gay marriage would set, I mean what about the precedent of preventing a group of people from using a service for absolutely no reason? If there was a dating site that arbitrarily denied service to Republicans and Christians as a matter of policy, wouldn’t that piss you off?

  11. #211
    On November 20th, 2008 at 11:19 am, Red State Skeptic said:

    btw here’s the wiki page for Elijah Muhammad saying the NOI started to allow white members in the 70s. Wish I had pictures, but regardless, the point is a white man could sue NOI for membership just as a black man could sue the Mormon church to get a leadership position before they changed.

  12. #212
    On November 20th, 2008 at 11:20 am, 29Victor said:

    This is only going to get worse until someone takes a stand and is willing to sacrifice to bring attention to the erosion of our rights in America.

    This could have been a moment like that. Instead, it’s one more step in legitimizing and rewarding the intollerant left’s strong-arm tactics.

  13. #213
    On November 20th, 2008 at 11:21 am, englishqueen01 said:

    You’re losing. We took a giant step on 11/4, and we’re not stopping until we drag all your asses out of the darknesss and into the light. If we can’t have you, we’ll get your kids. We’ll teach them to be politically correct, because it’s CORRECT.

    Whoever said this is the knuckle-dragger.

    You’ll get my children, when you take them from my cold, dead hands. I have every right to live my life and raise my children as I see fit. You want to “get kids” – have your own.

    I DON’T NEED YOU’RE STINKIN’ APPROVAL on how I raise my children.

    You wanna fight? Bring it on. Be prepared to meet with resistance.

  14. #214
    On November 20th, 2008 at 11:22 am, granite said:

    On November 20th, 2008 at 10:45 am, eaglehaslanded said:

    You’re losing. We took a giant step on 11/4, and we’re not stopping until we drag all your asses out of the darknesss and into the light. If we can’t have you, we’ll get your kids. We’ll teach them to be politically correct, because it’s CORRECT.

    A clear declaration of war!
    This poster should be thankful for the internet, and should feel very fortunate he did not have to hurl this threat at us to our face.

    On November 20th, 2008 at 10:56 am, BigAnge said:

    Sure. Unless you’re an ignorant bigot, you should have no problem with that. Oh, wait…you ARE an ignorant bigot. My bad. Sounds like you want your kids to grow up to be ignorant bigots, too. Hopefully they’ll have teachers and peers that can override the crap you teach them.

    Wow. Just wow. Eagledouche now advocates the Khmer Rouge method of child indoctrination.

    Yep.
    As I said, what is that screed if not a declaration of war on us?

    On November 20th, 2008 at 10:59 am, right4life said:

    You’re losing. We took a giant step on 11/4, and we’re not stopping until we drag all your asses out of the darknesss and into the light. If we can’t have you, we’ll get your kids. We’ll teach them to be politically correct, because it’s CORRECT.

    We’ll teach them to love everyone, including those that hate them.

    you are a sick piece of trash. of course we all know you wouldn’t say anything like this to our faces

    Exactly!
    Cowardly, threatening, and laced with stupid 60s-hippies drivel.

  15. #215
    On November 20th, 2008 at 11:22 am, 29Victor said:

    ‘I don’t like those people’ doesn’t exactly qualify as a good reason, in my opinion.

    If you don’t own the business, your opinion shouldn’t matter.

    To steal a line from the Left:

    “If eHarmony offends you, don’t use them.”

  16. #216
    On November 20th, 2008 at 11:23 am, CantCureStupid said:

    On November 20th, 2008 at 10:45 am, eaglehaslanded said:

    Well, I must say that it’s refreshing (once the shock and nausea wears off) that one of you nutters is willing to put the liberal mindset out there in unambiguous language for all to see. A blunt and undeniable warning to parents everywhere.

    You liberal loons want my kids? You may want to consider exactly what you’re willing to loose, and exactly how far you’re willing to go to get at them, because as God is my witness, you will have to kill me to get your way.

  17. #217
    On November 20th, 2008 at 11:23 am, FamilyMan said:

    Coupling with the same sex is as revoting to a strait person as eating putrified meat. Eat your disgusting meat but don’t force the 98% of us who wish not to, validate your perversion.
    Please do it in private.

  18. #218
    On November 20th, 2008 at 11:23 am, AngusIII said:

    They were not forced – they settleed which in my judgement is compromise – if e-harmony was really Christian based they would have stood on their principles. I am surprised Michelle that you are buying into their compromise – there was no excuse for them cowtowing to pressure from that same sex man. Shame on e-harmony and their founder for not standing up for truth

  19. #219
    On November 20th, 2008 at 11:24 am, Drained Brain said:

    What’s the next trivial fortress to storm? How about beauty contests? Isn’t the very concept of a “Miss America” discriminatory against, say, a cross-dressing male?

    Of course the Miss America rules don’t specifically mention a requirement to be female so maybe they’re off the hook.

  20. #220
    On November 20th, 2008 at 11:24 am, Digshot said:

    prove its not a choice. you cannot. there are x-gay ministries, and people who have left the gay lifestyle.

    they sure are a bunch of immature little nazis..perhaps they just need to grow up.

    How about you prove there’s an invisible man living in the sky that can hear everyone’s thoughts?

    You really want to play the ‘prove it’ game with me?

  21. #221
    On November 20th, 2008 at 11:25 am, right4life said:

    On November 20th, 2008 at 11:19 am, Red State Skeptic said:
    btw here’s the wiki page for Elijah Muhammad saying the NOI started to allow white members in the 70s. Wish I had pictures, but regardless, the point is a white man could sue NOI for membership just as a black man could sue the Mormon church to get a leadership position before they changed.

    uh huh…so a page from wiki says this…why couldn’t you get this from their website..as I did…and how does this square with the separation of races and no interracial marriage? sorry, ain’t buying it.

    no, they cannot sue for membership…just as a gay person cannot sue to become a christian minister.

    you don’t get it, obviously. if groups cannot keep out who they want..then there is no freedom of association, and NO freedom of religion..

    which is what you gay nazis want.

  22. #222
    On November 20th, 2008 at 11:26 am, right4life said:

    You really want to play the ‘prove it’ game with me?

    yeah I sure do..I’ll make you look like the idiot you are.

    How about you prove there’s an invisible man living in the sky that can hear everyone’s thoughts?

    sure ISRAEL exists, just as HE said it would.

    now go ahead and disprove HIM.

    moron.

  23. #223
    On November 20th, 2008 at 11:26 am, Cliff said:

    If homosexuality was natural, it would have died out thousands of years ago because they CAN’T reproduce!

  24. #224
    On November 20th, 2008 at 11:27 am, Digshot said:

    Coupling with the same sex is as revoting to a strait person as eating putrified meat. Eat your disgusting meat but don’t force the 98% of us who wish not to, validate your perversion.
    Please do it in private.

    Stop talking for straight people. I don’t find anything about ‘coupling with the same sex’ revolting, nor do most people.

  25. #225
    On November 20th, 2008 at 11:28 am, sonofdy said:

    Is there a compelling reason for them to not offer their services to gays?

    Becuase of whatever reason they want, its called freedom.

    If there was a dating site that arbitrarily denied service to Republicans and Christians as a matter of policy, wouldn’t that piss you off?

    No, it wouldn’t. I just wouldn’t use it. That also is called freedom.

  26. #226
    On November 20th, 2008 at 11:29 am, Digshot said:

    If homosexuality was natural, it would have died out thousands of years ago because they CAN’T reproduce!

    What are you talking about? Genetics? Evolution? Biology? Yeah, reproduction doesn’t work like that. Are you in the second grade, Cliff?

  27. #227
    On November 20th, 2008 at 11:30 am, eaglehaslanded said:

    which is what you gay nazis want.

    You realize how the Nazis felt about homosexuality, right?

    Same as you do. How ironic. Doofus.

  28. #228
    On November 20th, 2008 at 11:30 am, Digshot said:

    Becuase of whatever reason they want, its called freedom.

    Would they have the freedom to stop serving blacks or the handicapped, then?

    No, it wouldn’t. I just wouldn’t use it. That also is called freedom.

    Please. Wal-Mart stopped saying ‘Merry Christmas’ a few years back and you people had a conniption. You’d freak about a dating site.

  29. #229
    On November 20th, 2008 at 11:31 am, right4life said:

    You realize how the Nazis felt about homosexuality, right?

    Same as you do. How ironic. Doofus.

    yeah tell that to Ernst Rohm (who?)

    you stupid piece of trash :P

    you must be in a great deal of pain such stupidity has to hurt!!

    ever hear of the pink swastika?? DUHHHHHHHHH moron

  30. #230
    On November 20th, 2008 at 11:32 am, right4life said:

    Please. Wal-Mart stopped saying ‘Merry Christmas’ a few years back and you people had a conniption. You’d freak about a dating site.

    yeah and we didn’t sue :roll: we boycotted, and made our feeling known..unlike you fascist gays

  31. #231
    On November 20th, 2008 at 11:32 am, wighttrasch said:

    You really want to play the ‘prove it’ game with me?

    No; I swore an oath to never have a battle of wits with the unarmed.

  32. #232
    On November 20th, 2008 at 11:33 am, CyberCipher said:

    Homofascism.

    My collie says:

    Can I use that for the title of the next book that I am going to write?

  33. #233
    On November 20th, 2008 at 11:34 am, englishqueen01 said:

    You realize how the Nazis felt about homosexuality, right?
    Same as you do. How ironic. Doofus.

    Yeah, because we’re the ones out there vandalizing property, assaulting people, and threatening to “drag our asses into the light.”

    You’re the bigot, you’re the intolerant one.

    And you will LOSE. Truth and right always triumphs over evil. And – as I said above – you’ll “teach” my kids when you put me 6′ under.

    Frickin’ coward.

  34. #234
    On November 20th, 2008 at 11:35 am, sonofdy said:
    Becuase of whatever reason they want, its called freedom.

    Would they have the freedom to stop serving blacks or the handicapped, then?

    Yes, if they wanted to go out of business. Because people would stop shoping there.

    No, it wouldn’t. I just wouldn’t use it. That also is called freedom.
    Please. Wal-Mart stopped saying ‘Merry Christmas’ a few years back and you people had a conniption. You’d freak about a dating site.

    Again, care to back that up? Just because you support the policies of a totalitarian dictator doesn’t make the dictatorship right.

  35. #235
    On November 20th, 2008 at 11:35 am, right4life said:

    On November 20th, 2008 at 11:34 am, englishqueen01 said:

    I think I’m in love!! wow!! you rock girl!! ;-)

  36. #236
    On November 20th, 2008 at 11:35 am, FamilyMan said:

    Digshot said: nothing
    CHILDISH TANTRUMS!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  37. #237
    On November 20th, 2008 at 11:35 am, jsr said:

    From that last rant of his I’d say eagle is one of those people the Obama camp tries to disassociate itself from because they are an embaressment. His frustration is obvious and will become further deranged as he realizes there will be no utopia here on earth, people cannot be forced to love each other, illegal aliens don’t care about the environment (or other liberal causes), and many other painful lessons. The people he hates and despises are far more intelligent than his Progressive Handbook told him. Plus the bills will keep arriving but no personal bailout so he will be forced to continue to waste away in some dreary job working for somebody that didn’t even vote for The One. Then the real anger will set in and it will be ugly. Everybody should hope he isn’t one of your co-wokers. LOL!

  38. #238
    On November 20th, 2008 at 11:36 am, granite said:

    On November 20th, 2008 at 11:26 am, Cliff said:

    If homosexuality was natural, it would have died out thousands of years ago because they CAN’T reproduce!

    Yep.
    Good point.

    It cannot persist through reproduction, meaning that the “programming”, or “hard-wiring” DNA (as I’ve heard as one argument) cannot be passed on; which would indicate to me that the same somatic mutation has repeatedly occurred lots and lots and lots of times over the millennia; and continues to occur, lots and lots and lots of times, year after year after year after year…in individual after individual after individual after individual….

    Sounds to me like something other than evolution and natural selection is at work there….

  39. #239
    On November 20th, 2008 at 11:36 am, sonofdy said:

    You realize how the Nazis felt about homosexuality, right?

    Makes me wonder why the gays are using nazi tactics.

  40. #240
    On November 20th, 2008 at 11:38 am, FamilyMan said:

    Digshot said:
    I don’t find anything about ‘coupling with the same sex’ revolting, nor do most people.

    OH YES THE DO LITTLE BOY

  41. #241
    On November 20th, 2008 at 11:39 am, b-cat said:

    You realize how the Nazis felt about homosexuality, right?

    Irrelevant. Nazis also planted rose gardens. Doesn’t make gardners Nazis.

    The sky was blue in Nazi Germany. The sky is blue here. Therefore this must be Nazi Germany. :roll:

  42. #242
    On November 20th, 2008 at 11:41 am, Ignatius Reilly said:

    Given the PC legal climate in this country, it is impossible to fight off the relentless push in the courts to impose this sickness on all of us and on our children.

    I may have to take it, to some extent, because I am not willing to use force or illegality in opposition.

    But, from time to time, a few red-blooded hot-heads take their rage out on the perverts. When it happens, we are all supposed to be appalled. But I am not appalled. I LMAO and tell jokes about it. With friends, I engage in mutual reinforcement of our anti-gay “bigotry.” We privately ridicule and mock them and seek to make the objects of derision in every legal way possible. I have no sympathy whatsoever for any aggressive swisher who messes with an angry straight whom he should have left alone.

  43. #243
    On November 20th, 2008 at 11:41 am, right4life said:

    this must be Nazi Germany

    it will be if the gays get their way…

  44. #244
    On November 20th, 2008 at 11:41 am, eaglehaslanded said:

    ever hear of the pink swastika?? DUHHHHHHHHH moron

    You mean pink triangle, right?

    http://www.ushmm.org/wlc/article.php?ModuleId=10005261

    I truly feel sorry for your family, if you have one.

    Does calling people schoolyard names make you feel superior?

  45. #245
    On November 20th, 2008 at 11:43 am, englishqueen01 said:

    Does calling people schoolyard names make you feel superior?

    Does threatening my rights and freedoms and family make you feel superior?

  46. #246
    On November 20th, 2008 at 11:44 am, xler8bmw said:

    I’m Sorry now please tell me how civil rights is good for this country and not used as a sword?

    Lawyer says alcohol testing device is racist
    By The Associated Press • November 19, 2008

    BRIDGEPORT, Conn. – A lawyer representing a man charged with drunken driving claims Connecticut’s breathalyzers discriminate against blacks.

    Attorney James O. Ruane represents 40-year-old Tyrone Brown of Norwalk, who was arrested April 9 by state police on Interstate 95 in Fairfield.

    In a motion filed Tuesday in Bridgeport Superior Court, Ruane asked a judge to suppress his client’s breathalyzer test results.

    He contends the device used by state police and most local police departments, the Intoxilyzer 5000, discriminates against blacks.

    Ruane says research shows that the lung capacity of a black man is 3 percent smaller than a white man and, therefore, black men’s test results vary from the sobriety standard set by the device.

    Assistant State’s Attorney Mark Durso declined comment.

  47. #247
    On November 20th, 2008 at 11:44 am, Trollman said:

    Digshot said:

    You really want to play the ‘prove it’ game with me?

    There are genetically identical twins, separated from birth, where one is gay and the other is not.

    That is pretty strong proof that at least some gay people aren’t born that way.

    Now your turn, what proof do you have that some people must be gay purely due to genetics?

  48. #248
    On November 20th, 2008 at 11:44 am, FamilyMan said:

    HEY Digshot
    If homosexual coupling isn’t revolting to strait people, why don’t we all engage it the perverted practice?

  49. #249
    On November 20th, 2008 at 11:45 am, ajmontana said:

    Digshot said:
    I don’t find anything about ‘coupling with the same sex’ revolting, nor do most people.

    lol, hows the weather in la, la land today?

  50. #250
    On November 20th, 2008 at 11:45 am, right4life said:

    You mean pink triangle, right?

    no pink SWASTIKA duhhh

    Rohm wasn’t the only homosexual in the nazi movement.

    Does calling people schoolyard names make you feel superior?

    if the shoe fits sweety pie :P

  51. #251
    On November 20th, 2008 at 11:46 am, Danceswithdachshunds said:

    Over 90% of the PAC money from the American Trial Lawyers Association (ATLA) goes toward the re-election of democrats.

    The government stupid people deserve; the one they vote for over and over and over and over…

  52. #252
    On November 20th, 2008 at 11:46 am, gunslingerpatriot said:

    I have been a member of eHarmony for awhile and could see an extra matching criteria being added along side with race, smoking, and kids. It could be straight, gay, or bi.

    In that case, I’ll select straight and even modify my profile to state-”Straights only please”

    However, I am ending my membership when it comes up for renewal in April though and will state its because of eHarmony refusal to fight. Honestly, I would have liked for Dr. Warren to have shut the group down after giving us a six month notice and that way the gay nazi’s would not have won by forcing him to concede.

    GSP
    “This is Sparta!”

  53. #253
    On November 20th, 2008 at 11:46 am, b-cat said:

    Digshot said:
    I don’t find anything about ‘coupling with the same sex’ revolting,

    Figures.

  54. #254
    On November 20th, 2008 at 11:47 am, Garathorn said:

    ” Coerced tolerance and diversity-by-fiat cut both ways.”

    Oh, if only THAT were true. But it’s just wishful thinking, Michelle.

    I’m an associate pastor and I fear that the time is fast approaching when churches are going to be ‘coerced’ into hiring and marrying folks who are living lives contrary to our faith and Biblical authority. What then?

    Problem with this country is, it’s cornering a large portion of its population and hasn’t left anywhere for us to go. We won’t all capitulate. If they keep pushing, the lids gonna blow off.

  55. #255
    On November 20th, 2008 at 11:47 am, Danceswithdachshunds said:

    this must be Nazi Germany

    No, the trains aren’t always on time.

  56. #256
    On November 20th, 2008 at 11:47 am, FamilyMan said:
    Trollman said;That is pretty strong proof that at least some gay people aren’t born that way.

    Exactly. The perverted few need to prove that it is inborn so they my receive special rights.

  57. #257
    On November 20th, 2008 at 11:48 am, ajmontana said:

    Want to see proof of revolting… go to up your ally 2008 and only do it if you have a stainless steel stomach.
    and a bucket next to you……

  58. #258
    On November 20th, 2008 at 11:48 am, CantCureStupid said:

    On November 20th, 2008 at 11:41 am, eaglehaslanded said:
    I truly feel sorry for your family, if you have one.

    You should save your pity for yourself. Your earlier rant regarding the forced indoctrination (which you euphemistically referred to as teaching) of children has exposed you as a loon, and ruined whatever infinitesimal credibility you may have had in an intelligent debate.

    I did appreciate your honesty, though.

  59. #259
    On November 20th, 2008 at 11:49 am, CyberCipher said:

    On November 20th, 2008 at 11:31 am, right4life said:

    yeah tell that to Ernst Rohm (who?)

    Ernt Rohm was the flaming homosexual head of the Brownshirts. He probably did more that anyone to get Adolf Hitler into power. Once Hitler secured his power base and created the SS, he had Rohm and the rest of the brownshirt leadership murdered (night of the long knives if I remember correctly).

    My collie says:

    Chances are, this is ultimately what will happen to militant gays here in America as well. You can’t dance with the devil in the pale moon light and expect to survive. Satan ALWAYS deals with his servants FAR more harshly than God deals with those who oppose Him.

    It’s hard to imagine that people STILL do not understand the evil that they are up against. They still think that their struggles are exclusively against flesh and blood.

  60. #260
    On November 20th, 2008 at 11:49 am, right4life said:

    link didn’t show up…try again..

    Whether or not Hitler was personally involved in homosexual relationships, the evidence is clear that he knowingly and intentionally surrounded himself with practicing homosexuals from his youth. Like Roehm, Hitler seemed to prefer homosexual companions and co-workers. In addition to Roehm and Hess, two of his closest friends, Hitler filled key positions with known or suspected homosexuals.

    link

  61. #261
    On November 20th, 2008 at 11:49 am, HeatherRadish said:

    Is there a compelling reason for them to not offer their services to gays?

    Their legal defense points out that eHarmony was intended as a service to pair adults for marriage. Gays can’t legally marry in most states, and they would be remiss to offer a service they couldn’t legally fulfill.

    So I suppose now that they’re forced to do so, it will be trivial to shut them down and file criminal charges against the founder. I’ve assumed that was the goal of the original lawsuit.

  62. #262
    On November 20th, 2008 at 11:50 am, sonofdy said:

    Does calling people schoolyard names make you feel superior?

    You would be the expert in that.

  63. #263
    On November 20th, 2008 at 11:52 am, MtsEdge said:

    When I think of a business that stands on principle, I think of Joey Vento.

  64. #264
    On November 20th, 2008 at 11:52 am, englishqueen01 said:

    You should save your pity for yourself. Your earlier rant regarding the forced indoctrination (which you euphemistically referred to as teaching) of children has exposed you as a loon, and ruined whatever infinitesimal credibility you may have had in an intelligent debate.

    I did appreciate your honesty, though.

    Of course, you noticed that he hasn’t addressed anyone that’s called him on his blatant discriminatory comments…

  65. #265
    On November 20th, 2008 at 11:55 am, jsr said:

    Digshot said:
    I don’t find anything about ‘coupling with the same sex’ revolting, nor do most people.

    That’s ridiculuous. The politcal correctness of our age is blinding you to the facts in front of you. If it were true horny young males, whom spend most of their waking hours think about sex and aren’t the least bit interested in a relationship, would be engaging in sex with each other if/when they can’t find a female to have sex with. They don’t. Why do you suppose that is?

  66. #266
    On November 20th, 2008 at 11:57 am, HeatherRadish said:

    …and in the “irony” department, when I was reading about the eHarmony decision on news.yahoo.com, there was a link in the sidebar to a story about how sad it is that Chicago doesn’t have a public school for gay students only.

    Let’s review:
    * private businesses shouldn’t be allowed to choose their customers.
    * public, taxpayer-funded schools should be allowed to refuse to enroll straight children.

    Makes no sense to me.

  67. #267
    On November 20th, 2008 at 11:59 am, seveneleventy said:

    I thought teh gays just wanted the right to marry. This just goes to show that there is another agenda they wish to persue.
    If you don’t like a certain business, don’t patronize it. They chose to boycott El Coyote restaurant, didn’t they?
    Why not start eSodomy?

  68. #268
    On November 20th, 2008 at 12:02 pm, englishqueen01 said:

    Makes no sense to me.

    Yeah, we’ll you’re not a liberal, Heather. It makes sense to them…and that’s all they care about.

    :roll:

  69. #269
    On November 20th, 2008 at 12:02 pm, seveneleventy said:

    persue=pursue

  70. #270
    On November 20th, 2008 at 12:02 pm, CantCureStupid said:

    On November 20th, 2008 at 11:52 am, englishqueen01 said:
    Of course, you noticed that he hasn’t addressed anyone that’s called him on his blatant discriminatory comments…

    He won’t, because it’s indefensible. I meant what I said in #216 (which echos comments you were making at about the same time). They’d better decide what they’re willing to loose if they want to take a crack at my kids. I may go down in the fight, but at least one person is coming with me.

  71. #271
    On November 20th, 2008 at 12:03 pm, eaglehaslanded said:

    rfl, you honestly have no knowledge of the Nazi persecution of homosexuals? The link was from the Holocaust Museum.

    From 1937 to 1939, the peak years of the Nazi persecution of homosexuals, the police increasingly raided homosexual meeting places, seized address books, and created networks of informers and undercover agents to identify and arrest suspected homosexuals. On April 4, 1938, the Gestapo issued a directive indicating that men convicted of homosexuality could be incarcerated in concentration camps. Between 1933 and 1945 the police arrested an estimated 100,000 men as homosexuals. Most of the 50,000 men sentenced by the courts spent time in regular prisons, and between 5,000 and 15,000 were interned in concentration camps.

    The Nazis interned some homosexuals in concentration camps immediately after the seizure of power in January 1933. Prisoners marked by pink triangles to signify homosexuality were treated harshly in the camps. According to many survivor accounts, homosexuals were among the most abused groups in the camps.

    Because some Nazis believed homosexuality was a sickness that could be cured, they designed policies to “cure” homosexuals of their “disease” through humiliation and hard work. Guards ridiculed and beat homosexual prisoners upon arrival, often separating them from other inmates.

    Nazis interested in finding a “cure” for homosexuality expanded this program to include medical experimentation on homosexual inmates of concentration camps. These experiments caused illness, mutilation, and even death, and yielded no scientific knowledge.

  72. #272
    On November 20th, 2008 at 12:05 pm, madchef said:

    If I was Dr. Warren, I would match each one with a gerbil. If they complained i would just point to the computer and say that was the match it came up with.

  73. #273
    On November 20th, 2008 at 12:05 pm, greenfairie said:

    eHarmony should’ve fought it. Now Al-Gayda is going to be more emboldened to destroy anything heteronormative.

    Somebody needs to sue the gay dating/hookup/whatever services too.

  74. #274
    On November 20th, 2008 at 12:09 pm, AlohaGuy said:

    I’m not going to wade through the stupid “you bigots hate gays” comments. Warren founded the service based on his knowledge of heterosexual relationships and what factors he thought made them successful. Plain and simple. The opportunity exists for an expert in gay relationships to found their own site.
    If it was mine, I’d shut it down before I’d cave. Re-open on servers in China or Cuba where people have more civil rights than we do…

  75. #275
    On November 20th, 2008 at 12:10 pm, FamilyMan said:

    Because some Nazis believed homosexuality was a sickness that could be cured, they designed policies to “cure” homosexuals of their “disease” through humiliation and hard work. Guards ridiculed and beat homosexual prisoners upon arrival, often separating them from other inmates.
    HMMMMMMMMMMM!!!!/sarc

  76. #276
    On November 20th, 2008 at 12:14 pm, iamsaved said:

    Like incest, humans have a natural abhorence to homosexuality. It’s part of the human makeup. Just because a vocal crowd of deviants scream that its natural doesn’t make it so.

    Many of their supporters who are going along with the crowd probably wouldn’t participate in the abominable act if pressed. Maybe the deviants should require their supporters to put their money where their mouth is, so to speak. Prove they really sympathize. I have a feeling the crowd would thin out very quickly.

  77. #277
    On November 20th, 2008 at 12:14 pm, FamilyMan said:

    The reality Digshot, is that most people are polite and won’t tell you to your face how disgusting the idea of same sex coupling is.
    NOW GO OFF AND CRY IN YOUR CORNER LITTLE BOY.

  78. #278
    On November 20th, 2008 at 12:15 pm, chapoutier said:

    Somebody needs to sue the gay dating/hookup/whatever services too.

    What good would that do?

    I imagine the gay dating services are probably on eHarmony’s side on this one, not only because they wouldn’t want to be forced to offer straight dating services, but more importantly, they probably don’t want to have to compete with eHarmony.

    Otherwise it sounds like you consider the gay community some sort of monolithic entity and the actions of one can be punished by an action against another.

  79. #279
    On November 20th, 2008 at 12:16 pm, englishqueen01 said:

    Because some Nazis believed homosexuality was a sickness that could be cured

    Know who else thinks homosexuality is a sickness that can be cured?

    SCIENTOLOGY.

    Funny, though, I don’t see nearly as much vitriol toward the local L. Ron Hubbard temple as I do toward others.

  80. #280
    On November 20th, 2008 at 12:17 pm, englishqueen01 said:

    Otherwise it sounds like you consider the gay community some sort of monolithic entity and the actions of one can be punished by an action against another.

    Sure as hell seems that way, chapoutier.

    Tolerance – as eaglehaslanded shows – is not enough. Approval will be gained, by force, if necessary.

  81. #281
    On November 20th, 2008 at 12:17 pm, FamilyMan said:

    iamsaved said:I have a feeling the crowd would thin out very quickly.

    My vote for good image of the day award.

  82. #282
    On November 20th, 2008 at 12:17 pm, right4life said:

    eaglehaslanded said:
    rfl, you honestly have no knowledge of the Nazi persecution of homosexuals? The link was from the Holocaust Museum.

    Hess was gay. Rohm was gay..and he wasn’t persecuted because he was gay..he was killed when he became a threat to Hitler.

    Hitler was most likely a male prostitute in vienna.

    your ‘history’ is the PC BS version.

    you should try digging a little deeper.

  83. #283
    On November 20th, 2008 at 12:19 pm, right4life said:

    from the previous link..

    There is no question that homosexuality figures prominently in the history of the Holocaust. As we have noted, the ideas for disposing of the Jews originated with Lanz von Leibenfels. The first years of terrorism against the Jews were carried out by the homosexuals of the SA. The first concentration camp, as well as the system for training its brutal guards, was the work of Ernst Roehm. The first pogrom, Kristallnacht, was orchestrated in 1938 by the homosexual Reinhard Heydrich. And it was the transvestite Goering who started the “evolution of the Final Solution…[with an] order to Heydrich (Jan. 24, 1939) concerning the solution of the Jewish question by ‘emigration’ and ‘evacuation’” (Robinson:25). Still, despite their disproportionate role, homosexuals did not cause the Holocaust. They, along with so many others who had lost their moral bearings, were merely instruments in its enactment.

  84. #284
    On November 20th, 2008 at 12:19 pm, bear1909 said:

    Fear is a destroyer of business acumen. e-Harmony could have nailed these turds by proving in court that their *intent* was non-discriminatory.

    What is next? All films involving heterosexual relationships in their content MUST include something homosexual?

    If plaintiffs suing about race discrimination in the US must prove intent, then why is it that Homosexuals suing over discrimination based on sexual preference (note it is called sexual preference and not *necessity*- hmmmm) do not have to prove intent?

    Easily fought. Easily won. If yer not a coward.

    The homosexual crowd can be easily be shrunk to size given their small numbers. Their allies make them a significant lobby (you know the heterosexuals who feel guilty that they are in the majority on the planet and like being part of a cause while wearing their “not me” buttons).

    Lack of imagination leads to brain death and other needless maladies.

    Bear1909 out.

    “…and hell followed with him.”

    PS: Why won’t the Congress pass a law of the land about homosexual marriage? And if the civil rights laws provide a context and a spirit of lawfulness for homosexual marriage- why isnt such a law enforced?

  85. #285
    On November 20th, 2008 at 12:20 pm, HeatherRadish said:

    The opportunity exists for an expert in gay relationships to found their own site.

    That sounds suspiciously like freedom of association and capitalism. God forbid.

    Does manhunt.com allow straight women to register (I’m at work, so I can’t access it right now)? I’m feeling class action lawsuit about my civil rights.

    /heh.

  86. #286
    On November 20th, 2008 at 12:20 pm, right4life said:

    and of course Goering was gay.

  87. #287
    On November 20th, 2008 at 12:20 pm, FamilyMan said:

    Hess was gay. Rohm was gay.
    Hess was sick. Rohm was sick.

  88. #288
    On November 20th, 2008 at 12:20 pm, iamsaved said:

    The Nazi homosexuals had enough sense to stay in the closet and not publicly advertise their sexual escapades. Too bad the homosexuals didn’t stay in the closest in this country.

  89. #289
    On November 20th, 2008 at 12:22 pm, right4life said:

    Elie Wiesel, sent to the Buna factory camp in the Auschwitz complex, for example, acknowledges this in his book Night:

    The head of our tent was a German. An assassin’s face, fleshy lips, hands like wolf’s paws. He was so fat he could hardly move. Like the leader of the camp he loved children…(Actually this was not a disinterested affection: there was a considerable traffic in young children among homosexuals here, I learned later) (Wiesel:59).
    In Treblinka, the narrative account of the Treblinka uprising, Steiner records the story of another Nazi administrator, taken from interviews with survivors:

    Max Bielas had a harem of little Jewish boys. He liked them young, no older than seventeen. He had a kind of parody of the shepherds of Arcadia, their role was to take care of the camp flock of geese. They were dressed like little princes…Bielas had a little barracks built for them that looked like a doll’s house…Bielas sought in Treblinka only the satisfaction of his homosexual instincts (Steiner:117f).

  90. #290
    On November 20th, 2008 at 12:24 pm, eaglehaslanded said:

    your ‘history’ is the PC BS version.

    Yes, you surely know more than people at the Holocaust Museum, all the scholars, etc.

    Let me guess…9/11 was an inside job, too? The world is really flat? We never landed on the moon? Obama is a secret Muslim terrorist? And gays want to indoctrinate your children?

    Geeze. Get some help.

  91. #291
    On November 20th, 2008 at 12:26 pm, right4life said:

    Geeze. Get some help.

    speaking of help, you need to get rid of the hatred of anyone who disagrees with your gay fascism.

    you cannot dispute what I say. the homosexuals that Hitler killed, got in the way, like rohm.

    take your tin-foil off and get back on your meds.

  92. #292
    On November 20th, 2008 at 12:27 pm, right4life said:

    And gays want to indoctrinate your children?

    and that is absolutely TRUE…as you admitted earlier…moron.

  93. #293
    On November 20th, 2008 at 12:29 pm, sonofdy said:

    And gays want to indoctrinate your children?

    Need I quote you from above? You PROMISED to do this.

  94. #294
    On November 20th, 2008 at 12:30 pm, greenfairie said:

    What I’m saying is, if a site that caters only to matching heterosexual couples is forced to start catering to gays who want to be matched with someone of the same sex, why should other dating services catering only to any singular group (gays, Jews, Catholics, blacks, Latinos, liberals, conservatives, evangelicals, etc.) be let off the hook then?

    This goes to something fundamental–the government forcing a business to run the way it sees fit. Should clothing lines be forced to manufacture plus sizes? Should KFC be forced to carry vegan alternatives to chicken? This isn’t a lunch counter argument. We don’t have paying customers who are not getting served at all based on an arbitrary distinction. eHarmony chose a niche just like Taco Bell chose a niche. People are free not to patronize those businesses if they don’t need or want to find a date with someone of the opposite sex or a chalupa.

  95. #295
    On November 20th, 2008 at 12:30 pm, cicerokid said:

    #290:”And gays want to indoctrinate your children?”

    Is that what they call it now?

  96. #296
    On November 20th, 2008 at 12:31 pm, b-cat said:

    The truth is, one could be arrested for just about any reason, or none at all towards the end of the Third Reich. You could be hanged for appearing to be a deserter. It is all beside the point.

    You could be shot for being a constitutionalist and advocating a weaker central government.

    They arrested burglars. Doesn’t follow that we then should allow burglary.

  97. #297
    On November 20th, 2008 at 12:31 pm, FamilyMan said:

    eaglehaslanded said; Geeze. Get some help.

    I told you along time ago for you to do just that. You obviously have ignored my advise.

  98. #298
    On November 20th, 2008 at 12:32 pm, James Felix said:

    I don’t normally like to feed the trolls but there are some things here worth responding to.

    Sure. Unless you’re an ignorant bigot, you should have no problem with that. Oh, wait…you ARE an ignorant bigot.

    Liberal / progressive article of faith #1: no one can reasonably disagree with any liberal position. In order to disagree you must be motivated by hatred or ignorance. It is this precise mentality that makes it impossible to have an honest debate with them.

    If you have to be forced to be tolerant, you’re an a-hole.

    That’s nonsense, of course. Everyone has something that, but for the law, they wouldn’t willingly tolerate. I have a strong hunch that if the law allowed it this poster would assault Christians. He is unable to realize this because anything that he doesn’t want to tolerate, by definition, shouldn’t be tolerated by anyone (See Article of Faith #1).

    I’m glad you’re angry. Go cry somewhere. Or maybe get out your big gun!

    Be careful what you wish for. If the conservatives in this country ever decided to vent their outrage in the manner of their Progressive counterparts I promise you that you will come out on the wrong end of it.

    You’re losing. We took a giant step on 11/4, and we’re not stopping until we drag all your asses out of the darknesss and into the light.

    In this assertion you show an astounding ignorance of history. Well, not really astounding, you are a Progressive after all. Less than five years ago the Democrats were where the Republicans are now. They were out of power, utterly defeated and some people thought they would go the way of the Whigs. Five short years. Your belief that Obama’s election represents an end game or final victory is childishly naive. It’d be cute, if only you weren’t so malignant.

    If we can’t have you, we’ll get your kids. We’ll teach them to be politically correct, because it’s CORRECT.

    Actually it defies human nature.

    We’ll teach them to love everyone, including those that hate them.

    I’ll take a moment to savor the irony that this is a core Christian value you’re touting the virtues of. Having done that I’ll suggest you try practicing a little of what you preach. Hatred and contempt drip from your every word.

    We’ll teach them that people are not illegal – they are all the same no matter where they are born and should be able to live where they want.

    So, can a bunch of us move into your house? If not, why not? You just said we should all be able to live where we want. “But that’s my house”, you’re no doubt thinking. Good answer. Now, take whatever brainpower resides in that little pinhead of yours and expand the idea of private property to the national level. It’s called “soverignty”, and every nation in history has exercised it.

    We’ll teach them to respect everyone regardless of language, culture, or religion.

    American culture, English language and Judeo-Christian religions exempted, of course.

    We’ll teach them to share, that in the words of FDR, “We have always known that heedless self-interest was bad morals; we know now that it is bad economics.” We will teach them that we are all in this together, and we need to have economic justice,

    You would take from people that produce and give it to people who don’t. You would use force, in the form of government, to do this. That isn’t justice, it’s slavery.

    Capitalism has done more tangible good for more people than any government, philosophy or religion in history.

    and those that oppose that are selfish a-holes who should be scorned and defeated.

    Here we are back to article of faith #1.

    We’ll teach them that the only kind of intolerance that will be tolerated (and encouraged) is intolerance of intolerance. The rest will be mercilessly crushed by any means necessary, because people like that are evil and selfish and need to be punished. They need to have it shoved in their faces.

    Way to indulge your inner Stalin there, buddy.

    You can’t stop progress and progressives. We have always been right, and we will always be right.

    Actually, you’ve never been right. Welfare, immigration, gun control, foreign policy, taxes… Progressive policies have been ineffectual at best and most have actually done demonstrable harm.

    Your post is so over-the-top I actually suspect it’s a parody. Assuming it isn’t though I’d like to point out that it’s a perfect encapsulation of Liberal thought: viscious, self-righteous, fueled by emotion and hostile to facts & logic.

    It’s going to be a long four years.

  99. #299
    On November 20th, 2008 at 12:33 pm, NJ-Aviator said:

    What good would that do?

    It could force a business to defend itself on the same grounds as eHarmony should have defended itself.

    By the way. I am suing General Motors, Ford and Chrysler because they don’t offer specialized bicycles and wheelchairs as transportation devices.

    They are in fact in the business of selling transportation vehicles to the public and are therefore required not to discriminate against those with disabilities preventing them from operating a motor vehicle like a car or truck.

    I demand that they build such items and I demand that the first 10,000 people needing one, get one for free, along with 6 months worth of free maintenance.

    Those supporting this eHarmony suit must agree with the premise of a suit such as this.

  100. #300
    On November 20th, 2008 at 12:36 pm, NJ-Aviator said:

    James Felix.

    Good points. Well said.

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