eHarmony forced to offer same-sex dating services; Update: And now, a class-action lawsuit
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So, this is “progress?” eHarmony, a Christian-targeted dating website, gets sued by a gay man demanding that the business match him up with a same-sex partner. The New Jersey Attorney General intervenes on behalf of the gay plaintiff and forces eHarmony to change its entire business model. To be clear: The company never refused to do business with anyone. Their great “sin” was not providing a specialized service that litigious gay people demanded they provide. This case is akin to a meat-eater suing a vegetarian restaurant for not offering him a ribeye or a female patient suing a vasectomy doctor for not providing her hysterectomy services. Sadly, eHarmony has settled . I wish they hadn’t, but I understand the decision given the chilling antics of the anti-Prop. 8 mob. The company agreed not only to offer same-sex dating services on a new site, but also to offer six-month subscriptions for free to 10,000 gay users. Behold the submission:
Coming soon to EHarmony — Adam and Steve.
The Pasadena-based dating website, heavily promoted by Christian evangelical leaders when it was founded, has agreed in a civil rights settlement to give up its heterosexuals-only policy and offer same-sex matches.
EHarmony was started by psychologist Neil Clark Warren, who is known for his mild-mannered television and radio advertisements. It must not only implement the new policy by March 31 but also give the first 10,000 same-sex registrants a free six-month subscription.
“That was one of the things I asked for,” said Eric McKinley, 46, who complained to New Jersey’s Division on Civil Rights after being turned down for a subscription in 2005.
The company said that Warren was not giving interviews on the settlement. But attorney Theodore Olson, who issued a statement on the company’s behalf, made clear that it did not agree to offer gay matches willingly. “Even though we believed that the complaint resulted from an unfair characterization of our business,” Olson said, “we ultimately decided it was best to settle this case with the attorney general since litigation outcomes can be unpredictable.”
The settlement, which did not find that EHarmony broke any laws, calls for the company to either offer the gay matches on its current venue or create a new site for them. EHarmony has opted to create a site called Compatiblepartners.net.
Warren had said in past interviews that he didn’t want to feature same-sex services on EHarmony — which matches people based on long questionnaires concerning personality traits, relationship history and interests — because he felt he didn’t know enough about gay relationships.
eHarmony had been previously sued by a lesbian looking to force the company to match her up with another woman and by a married man who sought to force the company to hook him up in an adulterous relationship.
Perhaps heterosexual men and women should start filing lawsuits against gay dating websites and undermine their business. Coerced tolerance and diversity-by-fiat cut both ways.
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GayPatriot West gives eHarmony’s capitulation thumbs down.
Update 4pm Eastern 11/20. Geez. Now, a California judge has approved a class-action lawsuit by gays against eHarmony. When it rains, it pours:
(onlinedatingmagazine.com – November 20, 2008) A California Superior Court judge has certified a class action lawsuit against eHarmony.com for discrimination against gays and lesbians in California. The news comes one day after eHarmony settled a case in the State of New Jersey where a gay man accused the company of discrimination. In that settlement, eHarmony agreed to open up a service that matches gays and lesbians.
That announcement had no affect in the California case, which is moving forward.
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eaglehaslanded go eat you rotting meat and leave those of us alone who would prefer a gourmet meal.
Problem with this country is, it’s cornering a large portion of its population and hasn’t left anywhere for us to go. We won’t all capitulate. If they keep pushing, the lids gonna blow off.
Garathorn, what you describe will happen quicker than you think….in fact, it is happening now…forces are mobilizing….the revolution will happen sooner rather than later….let the pigeons loose…
Excellent!
Any questions?
Debate with the brain-dead is pointless.
Already that way on TV shows, can’t swing a dead cat without hitting a program w/o some fairy prancing around in it.
Wonder why the image they portray on TV is that they’re all sweet and peachy, how bout some truth in programming and not just the rose colored glasses version. Oh wait, that wouldn’t be acceptable.
Ok. Let me see if I have this right…You ultimately disagree with what the lawsuit is meant to bring about and you want to bring it against an entity that probably agrees with your side but is being selected solely on the basis that it is run for the benefit of gays?
Wow. That’s just….dumb.
Too much namecalling and invoking of Hitler here! Be of good cheer. See my #219 and consider that, when Bert Parks returns from the beyond to sing “There he is, Miss America,” we’ll know at least some gays will still not be happy.
I saw this comment on the LA Times website and thought it was a great idea. It’s time to teach them that what’s good for the goose is good for the gander, eh??
I had the impression that this thread had long since jumped the shark with all the Nazi talk, but it was worth wading through to get to your post. Well said.
In my opinion, I believe there are some liberal posters here that do not follow the article of faith #1 you describe, but they seem to be in the minority.
I shuddered when reading the “we’ll take over teaching your kids the correct way” tirade. I guess I shouldn’t be so surprised to see references to Nazi Germany after that, but it just seemed so off kilter to discussing government intervention in a business where servicing heterosexual couples is discriminatory but focusing on homosexual only couples is not.
Children should be taught to the tolerant and respectful of homosexuals. They cannot be taught to be homosexuals anymore than they can be tough to have blond hair or be six feet tall.
They should be taught to love everyone. Black, White, Asian, Muslim, gay, straight, old, young, atheists, religious people. They should not be taught that Americans are superior, but that all peoples are equal. They should be taught to embrace diversity and fight inequality wherever they see it.
It is a choice.Many homosexuals were found to have been molested as children plus the experimentation factor with it by kids that had little or no moral teachings by their parents.
I believe it was Paul that said,”We fight not against flesh and blood,but against powers and principalities…spiritual wickedness in high places”.
What we’re up against in this country is no different than the Sodomites of old….demonic spirits of perversion and discord acting through fleshly hosts tearing at the very fabric of society.
Remember…even Jesus Christ became angry and ran the defilers of the temple out!!!!(HINT HINT)
E-Harmony could match gay men to gay women and vice versa, therein lies the loophole. Match them with the most incompatable pairings possible. There is no law against running a poorly run company. Eventualy they will take the hint and look elsewhere.
Agreed. Would that we could teach homosexuals to be tolerant and respectful of others.
Great post James Felix. That eagle has to be the most over the top bitter, angry troll I’ve ever seen. I would say that they were female, but for the screen name which I assume refers to the first moon landing…..not that a woman couldn’t use that but not as likely. Also kind of ironic, given the hatred by eagle of everything America has stood for in the past. I guess that’s the one thing we did right although, just think if we had put that money into more social programs!
This is a relatively new phenomenon. Gays are suddenly intolerant of others. When did this occur?
No it isn’t. You know that it isn’t.
Such cases could generate valuable case law.
I didn’t consider that. I was thinking of the book title (and film) about a Nazi plot to assasinate Churchill.
Time to pull your heads out of your butt’s(no pun intended)you idiots, just keep pushing and see where it gets you…you think things were bad before you found the closet door knob, just hang on.
Are some commenters here actually trying to argue that sexual activity of any type is NOT a choice?
I assume that were not discussing rape. Right?
eaglehaslanded You are really one sick heifer.
It’s appears it’s time to thin the herd.
When have gays ever been tolerant of anyone opinion other than their own??
Let me explain it, Heather:
To a looney, leftwing liberal, 2+2= 6 3/4. If you try to say it’s 4, then you a racist, facist, nazi, homophobic bigot.
Now do you get it?
Or a sheep.
Um…
So don’t even go there. YOU – in your own hateful words – said you fully support forced indoctrination of anyone you deem “politically incorrect”, and then turned around and threatened our children and our rights as parents.
The mask has slipped off the face of liberalism. It’s no more about freedom than I am the next Pope. YOU prove, single-handedly – what we’ve been saying all along:
You, and pretty much all of the liberal movement, want to force us to accept your worldview while destroying our First Amendment rights, our churches, and our families in the process.
You can’t put that horse back into the barn. I – for one – put your comments on my blog, and hope others here do the same. You’ve made this an open declaration to cultural warfare – we’re warning our allies.
Yes, that is their thesis. Therefore all the hullaballoo about sodomy and abortion, sex ed in k-12, and so on. The pervert lobby is very strong with the left.
When have you heard otherwise? They are intolent of positions that negatively effect them, as is any other group.
What specific positions do you feel that they are intolerent of?
It is dumb. You don’t generate cases just to generate case law. You ever heard of the concept of an actual case or controversy requirement? You are punishing an entity that probably agrees with you and had nothing to do with the original spat. You are doing this solely because you are angry at “the gays” for the original lawsuit and this site serves “the gays” and thus is a member of “the gays”.
How about: Children should be taught to be tolerant and respectful to all people. Focusing on teaching tolerance of a specific class is a bit pointless, as it seems now to be more of a theme of forcing celebration of that class rather than tolerate. Let’s not kid ourselves by pretending it’s only about “tolerance”.
You’re very certain of something that the scientific community is still not certain.
This flies in the face of two philosophies that I would expect would normally be accepted by folks preaching tolerance:
- Bi-curious
- People love who they love regardless of sex (bi-sexuality)
And if they don’t? What is the corrective action? Shouldn’t they be taught to treat people with civility and not be forced to a conception that they must have an emotion to people that is not natural to them?
We teach this. Read Thomas Jefferson.
Being patriotic is not the same thing as believing that Americans are superior.
You keep contradicting yourself. And not just a little, I mean in big, fundamental ways.
In your long tirade earlier you had a lot to say about what sort of people need to be fought, exterminated, have their ideas stamped out etc. If you believe that then obviously you believe that some ideas and some points of view are better than others. Sometimes they are so much better that asserting them justifies violence.
How, then, can you suggest that America shares a moral plane with Saudi Arabia? Or Cuba?
In America gays stage violent, public protests because they are denied the use of the word “marriage”. In Iran they are executed for the crime of existing.
America provides more freedom and a better life for millions. That’s not my opinion; it’s an objective, quantifiable fact. America is an exceptional place, and we damned well should teach our childen that.
If we don’t they’ll end up, well… they’ll end up like you.
Oh, that’s rich. This, from the guy who wants to force us to accept his worldview.
Clearly, your definition of “diversity” (like most of the left) excludes any and all peoples who disagree with you, especially those who do so on religious grounds.
You’re too thick to realize it, but fighting inequality is exactly what we’re doing here.
My child will hate no one. I hate no one.
But he will know what behavior is and isn’t beneficial to society and, more importantly, what behavior is and isn’t pleasing to God. Because I know what is and isn’t, and will pass it along to him as his parent.
I suggest you take a moment to read a few of the threads on the right side of this page and review the actions of some of your tolerant gay people.
No, they should not! They need to learn that gays are sick perverted vermin.
Salt, is your oposition to homosexuality due to the belief that it is a choice?
Children should be taught right from wrong and tolerate what is right and be intolerant of what is wrong, i.e. homosexuality.
Englishqueen, I think I’m in LOVE! Do you think a Catholic and a Southern Baptist are a good match?
If you say “no”, I’ll sue you for discrimination!
Actually, Madchef, we should be like our Lord and Savior, Jesus. And love the sinner, but hate the sin.
What specific positions do you feel that they’re intolerant of, not what actions you see as indictive of their intolerance.
Stop your silliness, chapoutier. Some might find it extremely valuable to have a NJ court decide that a website operator has no obligation to provide ancillary services for a group of differing sexual orientation.
You know that in NJ a heterosexual suit against an exclusively gay dating website is much more likely to generate such an opinion.
He and his kind don’t what to accept the scientific method of assigning confidence levels to research and the peer revue process. They only want what they want.
It is a choice. Any type of ____sexuality is a choice. How can you attempt to argue otherwise?
You got it wrong.
Yes, it’s a bit of venom. Something wrong with being angry about this?
OK, I will humor you for a moment.
Gays are totally and completely intolerant of anyone and anything that does not validate and accept them as normal. They hate religion, the hate Conservatives, they hate ever single person who has ever voted against gay marriage.
They demand tolerance for their position, yet offer none for anyone elses.
Where do you see tolerance from the gay community??
I think children have a natural propensity to love everyone, but in some homes they are taught to hate gays, blacks, atheists, muslims, liberals, etc. That certainly happened to a lot of people on this board.
These biases and hatreds are evil. Hopefully, these children have other, more progressive influences in their lives to counter the crap they might be getting at home. Call it whatever you will, but I see it all the time – teachers trying to get kids to “unlearn” what daddy taught them about black people or gays or jews. Call it PC, call it whatever you want. And this is working. Young people’s attitudes towards gays and other minorities are much more tolerant than their parents.
That’s why we are winning. Your kind is dying out.
A democratically voted on, and passed, state proposition.
Eaglehaslanded…Maybe I’m just a Boston College fan
I once went to a wedding of two friends, one of which was Jewish and the other of which was southern baptist, which was presided by a slightly strange and wacky female rabbi and a southern minister. (who was the groom’s cousin).
Rabbi Marsha would utter something very animatedly in Hebrew and then Minister Dan would follow up with a a Bible passage in slow southern drawl.
It was very strange and very entertaining.
Actually eaglehaslanded it is better to teach children to be suspicious of gays because they’re SICK.
This crap will never end with these cretins.
I feel sorry for you. Some idiot taught you that and you aren’t smart enough to understand that it’s not true.
Now a full circle.
These defenders of PC-diversity-tolerance have clabbered milk between the ears….left wing broken records.
Um, I’m going to take a leap here and assume you don’t know many kids. Left to their own devices most of the children I’ve known have had a propensity for cruelty that’s completely appalling, and that needs to be conquered by proper adult instruction. They instinctively identify the outsider (and they always find one) and make that person’s life as miserable as they can.
But if I’m wrong I’ll cop to it. Any parents want to help me out here?
And I am saying you ginning up a false controversy and are doing it at the expense of an entirely innocent party that agrees with your position.
And you are doing so basically out of spite. “Ohhh…we’ll show “them gays” (again as a monolithic entity) good. We’ll sue one of “their” sites for the same thing! That’ll show ‘em!”
It’s a pathetic tactic.
mpChops, behold the tolerance of the Gay Supporters!
It’s so obvious, but I haven’t seen it, so this is what to do:
When that new site, goes live, register. It’s that simple.
It’s exactly right. Let’s go after Gay.com and other sites like that and ask that they match men with women. It high time we got in their face. It’s time the majority got in the face of some of these loonies and ask them what’s up with them. This tyranny needs to stop. Teh reason it has gone on is that reasonable and good people have gone SOFT!
It is the product of massive indoctrination through the news media, public school and college, entertainment, and valued friendships with other indoctrinates.
Seeing nothing wrong with their own brainwashing, desire to pass it along.
TRANSLATION: How DARE you use our tactic against us. That is just so unfair!
You’re right James…it’s like a flock of chickens will do.They find one in the flock that has an injury and they will proceed to peck the injured bird to death!
People hate what homosexuals are doing. They are taking a perverse, sexual, sin that they choose to engage in and demanding that others condone it and declare it as acceptable behavior. They are seeking, no demanding, equality for an abominable lifestyle.
Christians don’t find adultery, pedophilia, beastiality or any of the myriad of sexual sins as anything but sin. The difference is, those who engage in those acts aren’t demanding that the rest of humankind find them acceptable. I haven’t seen any “Adulterers of America Unite” groups; or “Pedophiles Come Together for a United Stand against discrimination” or “Fornicators for Special Tax Breaks”. Outside of NAMBLA, I haven’t seen any causes like these making any headlines.
These people keep their sins to themselves rather than parading them for the world to see and making demands on the rest of society.
Why should I find something so distasteful and sinful acceptable? Because the deviants demand it? I don’t think that’s going to happen.
Regarding this, as I said earlier on post #238 above:
So, if the proclivity for it, if the type of sexual orientation is not “hard-wired” or “programmed”, due to an unbelievably frequent and unbelievably recurrent occurrence of the same evolutionarily dead end somatic mutation; then, what else could it be assumed to be but a choice, very possibly predisposed to by influences in the oh-so-very-impressionable pre-teen and early to mid-teen years?
What is it exactly that are most of us here are missing?
Hello?
Hello?
Anyone?
Bueler?
James Felix KUDOS!
You can pout all you want sport, but homosexuality is obviously a sickness.
sickness
Noun
1. a particular illness or disease
2. the state of being ill or unhealthy:
The fact that you can’t find a biological tracer proves that being gay is a perversion. A SICKNESS
Scientific methods eaglehaslanded Scientific methods
SPITE??? What are you talking about? It’s a clear defensive strategy. Did you just wake up?
False controversy? False controversy? Look around, Mister. Ain’t nothin’ false about this controversy.
Dating sites that cater to the gay community exist precisely because mainstream dating sites — like, um (anyone? anyone?) eHarmony — don’t. When people don’t have the same resources available to them as the dominant masses, they create their own. It happens in every community that’s been denied access to things that are available to the majority.
But sue away if you like. Maybe you’ll tire yourselves out.
Go talk to as many psychiatrists and other medical professionals you can find and let me know what they say. You know, people that actually know something as opposed to what your parents or minister taught you.
To paraphrase Sam Kinison, move to where the intellectual food is.
You presume too much by saying that I am opposed to homosexuality.
All I’m saying is that there are those here saying that they know that it is not a choice. I haven’t yet seen anything conclusive on that front, personally.
Having doubts about whether it’s nature or nurture is not directly tied to whether or not I tolerate or oppose homosexuality.
I have two MS degrees. Don’t tell me about the scientific method. You’ll get crushed like a grape.
I would give my eye tooth for CSI or some other “crime drama ripped from the headlines” to tackle this issue on an upcoming show:
Gay marchers assault, beat and kill a restauranteur who donated money to a prop 8-style cause.
Would be interesting to see how the homosexual and pro-homosexual writers in Hollywood would paint this. Would rule of gay or rule of law prevail?
Now there’s a novelty: a lawsuit based on spite! (Shh…don’t tell divorce-trial attorneys their secret is out.)
I’m not a religious person and the subject of homosexuality was never discussed when I was a child
THERE IS NO PROOF BOY
Romans 1:20-22 :20 For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even His eternal power and Godhead, so that they are without excuse, 21 because, although they knew God, they did not glorify Him as God, nor were thankful, but became futile in their thoughts, and their foolish hearts were darkened. 22 Professing to be wise, they became fools!
Hollywood screenwriters?
There’s actually a question in your mind?
It would play out as the poor gay victim finally had had enough and lashed out at his mean old tormentor. He would still be convicted of the crime but there would be this “larger” message. Left Wing Indoctrination I.
Four words: Lord of the Flies.
errah I guess Neil Clark Warren’s questionaire above will only need one level of compatability . . . why the pulldown oh yeah chick to chick . . . I wonder what the hell are the other choices in the pulldown? Will the ACLU use this as case precedent for farm animals?
I have 165 IQ sooooo Crush me boy.
SHOW ME THE PROOF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
People spend their entire lives attempting to live straight lives (doing the married with 2.5 kids bit) and end up miserable; gay teens (even those who try desperately to remain in the closet) are often bullied and harrassed, and (depending what source you believe) 15%-30% attempt suicide BECAUSE of their homosexuality; and people engage in risky homosexual behavior because they’re too afraid to actually come out or come to terms with their sexuality (largely because of the kinds of attitudes that are so prevalent here). The idea that anyone would take pleasure in experiencing the kind of hostility and intolerance that gays experience makes zero sense to me. Who would choose that over the relative ease of a life of “normalcy?” — whatever that means.
Lord of the Flies
Dammit Salt,
I should have hit refresh one last time before I posted lol.
eagle:
And make sure they have as many diplomas on the wall as possible, preferably from bastions of free-thinking like Cal-Berkeley, Columbia, UCLA, or UW-Madison (all are listed “top 20″ for doctoral psychology programs).
If you go down the list of “sociology” or “psychology” programs in American universities, then compare it with an opposing viewpoint from, say, Horowitz’s “The Professors” you find waaaaay too much overlap.
The source has become polluted–agua no potable.
Anybody that could makes the statement
I think children have a natural propensity to love everyone
has never been a parent, that’s for sure! Probably never had any siblings either. Children will defy the most valient efforts of their parents to learn even basic manners. Loving everyone? Eagle, please spend some time watching young children playing together, especially their natural propensity to say, share. While seemingly very cute and innocent while babies, they will gravitate to the lowest common denominator without active parental guidance. Even parents without two MS degrees understand that.
Salt: I have four kids, and my empirical data supports your position. I will stipulate, however, that they are capable of the most amazing acts of love I’ve ever witnessed…sometimes followed by complete pendulum swings.
I agree that adult guidance is essential to their understanding themselves and understanding what is right and wrong. They have an innate compass, true, but many times they stand too close to counterfeit sources of magnetite–not “true north.”
nyk
You really sound confused.
eaglehaslanded
PROOF
eaglehaslanded
PROOF
I’M WAITING.
eaglehaslanded
PROOF
PROOF
PROOF
PROOF
Can’t the same be said of pedophiles?
I’m inferring that you’re wishing ever so hard that this is only a conservative trait, but it is sadly not. It is a human trait. I’m not endorsing it, but let’s not pretend this is a partisan game, shall we?
I hate none of the groups you listed as much as you might want to project that onto me.
I find ironic that you use the word ‘evil’.
Please read what I posted, again. None of what I said endorsed bias or hatred. In fact, it was just the opposite. Undue attention to “special” groups is generating a bias by itself. I would wager that most people could care less about another’s sexuality.
Be careful for what you wish. One day you may find yourself on the other end of that “progressive influence”.
Look, I’m not endorsing intolerance or bigotry, but neither do I trust a public school system (heavily liberally influenced as you suggest) to indoctrinate my children. Children should respect their parents and you are suggesting that all teachers should take an approach that their parents are always wrong and erode away at that respect.
Most teachers have no idea what goes on inside the home. Plus, children are known to make things up on their own or be just as influenced by their peers. I’d prefer that the school system were not so sanctimonious with their assumptions that they always know best.
They also see people celebrating President-Elect Obama solely because he is black and not because of his values or experience. Is that not also a harmful influence of bias towards a race?
Who is the “we” here? Who is “My kind”?
You’re very judgmental of someone you know nothing about for a person that claims to be all-tolerant.
Then where did you get these crazy ideas from?
And drug addicts, alcoholics…
A scientific argument if I ever heard one.
/sarc
Eagle, all of your posts can be summarized in one statement from you… “I’m right, and anyone who does not agree with me is {fill in insult here}!”
This, in a nutshell, is why you are the biggest dumbass to ever post on this board!
Yes, and some people are miserable having only one spouse.
As they now HAVE access to everything “available to the majority” there is no further need for them to continue to illegally discriminate on the basis of sexual orientation.
Ha. It’s okay. We’ve been like-minded on a couple of threads now.
eaglehaslanded
It is my hope that you are gay, so you will not contribute your obviously inferior intellect to the human gene pool.
I need to leave now. Have fun with the trolls. I need to make some money so the taxes will be there to help these caricatures of people in their old age.
Salt, I have to point out you’re mighty tolerant in not rubbing the lad’s face in the fact that his imagined “we” are constantly losing at the hands of Americans.
In fact, they are losing so often that they’ve become psychotic to the point where even those who supported them are starting to say they’re unhinged whackjobs.
But you were too nice to mention that fact and break his delusion-bubble. I’m just not as nice as you
eaglehaslanded
PROOF BOY
Yeah, FamilyMan, I’m off to work too. See y’all later.