eHarmony forced to offer same-sex dating services; Update: And now, a class-action lawsuit
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So, this is “progress?” eHarmony, a Christian-targeted dating website, gets sued by a gay man demanding that the business match him up with a same-sex partner. The New Jersey Attorney General intervenes on behalf of the gay plaintiff and forces eHarmony to change its entire business model. To be clear: The company never refused to do business with anyone. Their great “sin” was not providing a specialized service that litigious gay people demanded they provide. This case is akin to a meat-eater suing a vegetarian restaurant for not offering him a ribeye or a female patient suing a vasectomy doctor for not providing her hysterectomy services. Sadly, eHarmony has settled . I wish they hadn’t, but I understand the decision given the chilling antics of the anti-Prop. 8 mob. The company agreed not only to offer same-sex dating services on a new site, but also to offer six-month subscriptions for free to 10,000 gay users. Behold the submission:
Coming soon to EHarmony — Adam and Steve.
The Pasadena-based dating website, heavily promoted by Christian evangelical leaders when it was founded, has agreed in a civil rights settlement to give up its heterosexuals-only policy and offer same-sex matches.
EHarmony was started by psychologist Neil Clark Warren, who is known for his mild-mannered television and radio advertisements. It must not only implement the new policy by March 31 but also give the first 10,000 same-sex registrants a free six-month subscription.
“That was one of the things I asked for,” said Eric McKinley, 46, who complained to New Jersey’s Division on Civil Rights after being turned down for a subscription in 2005.
The company said that Warren was not giving interviews on the settlement. But attorney Theodore Olson, who issued a statement on the company’s behalf, made clear that it did not agree to offer gay matches willingly. “Even though we believed that the complaint resulted from an unfair characterization of our business,” Olson said, “we ultimately decided it was best to settle this case with the attorney general since litigation outcomes can be unpredictable.”
The settlement, which did not find that EHarmony broke any laws, calls for the company to either offer the gay matches on its current venue or create a new site for them. EHarmony has opted to create a site called Compatiblepartners.net.
Warren had said in past interviews that he didn’t want to feature same-sex services on EHarmony — which matches people based on long questionnaires concerning personality traits, relationship history and interests — because he felt he didn’t know enough about gay relationships.
eHarmony had been previously sued by a lesbian looking to force the company to match her up with another woman and by a married man who sought to force the company to hook him up in an adulterous relationship.
Perhaps heterosexual men and women should start filing lawsuits against gay dating websites and undermine their business. Coerced tolerance and diversity-by-fiat cut both ways.
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GayPatriot West gives eHarmony’s capitulation thumbs down.
Update 4pm Eastern 11/20. Geez. Now, a California judge has approved a class-action lawsuit by gays against eHarmony. When it rains, it pours:
(onlinedatingmagazine.com – November 20, 2008) A California Superior Court judge has certified a class action lawsuit against eHarmony.com for discrimination against gays and lesbians in California. The news comes one day after eHarmony settled a case in the State of New Jersey where a gay man accused the company of discrimination. In that settlement, eHarmony agreed to open up a service that matches gays and lesbians.
That announcement had no affect in the California case, which is moving forward.
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I’ll quote chapoutier, because he states it perfectly:
What about property taxes – those wouldn’t be minor.
And you admit it would hurt donations, which would hurt the church. Some churches have enough members and the ability to stay afloat in such a situation.
Many would not.
Again dufus, the whole point is that equal application does not mean equal protection.
I am not saying gay marriage should or should not be legal, or that equal protection clause applies here, but if you want o argue with mpChops, try to get a clue as to what he is saying.
Stan, there really is no arguing with you simply because you do not have the foundation on which to base a informed argument.
Yes, the Rights of the minority are to be protected in this country.
HOWEVER: That DOES NOT MEAN that their wants and desires are to become the Law of the Land.
You people seem to be confusing protecting something with making it the law and rules that everyone has to live by.
But then, what else do you expect from people who confuse tolerance with acceptance.
I am really not sure what the law is with respect to churches and property taxes, it would vary greatly with the state, but I guess I am thinking more of charities, which most of the time do not own any property.
Yeah…but I am not advocating pulling ANY church’s tax exempt status. Well, except the scientologists.
You have equated being gay with being left-handed, tall, black, and several other things. Yet for all your moronic analogies, plus the one you tried to steal from Chap, you have yet to answer my question.
The fact that this one single question strikes so much fear and hatred in your heart speaks volumes about you.
So spare me the lectures about foundation when you have the debating skills of a toddler. Until you can show me a law that applied differently to gays, you have no argument.
To me, homosexual attraction is disgusting. I say “ick” to that. Many people have the same attitude as I do. Maybe I was born with that reaction. That is likely. Should I stay in the closet with how I feel, or come out and risk the hatred of others? It’s a close call.
Surely those who don’t feel as I do don’t understand or appreciate me. They don’t take how I feel into account. They mock me, make fun of me, put me down; they want to destroy me. It makes my life difficult.
No, not really. Scientific research proves the brain is wired for left- or right-handedness.
Forcibly altering that inherited trait can cause problems.
Stan,
What don’t you understand? Please, help me. What don’t you understand?
It. Does. Not. Matter. How. Equally. The. Law. Is. Applied.
Again.
It doens’t matter how equally the law is applied.
I try to use anologies to get you to understand that, but you fail to. I aplogize, but i can’t dumb this down any farther than Chap already has.
And I never said equal application meant equal protection, moron. I stated that the law and the rights were the same for all. You may want equal outsome for everyone, but that is not what the law is about.
And to further your idiotic analogy from before, if the people that are 6-foot tall are smalrt enought to duck or move, then they won;t get hit, now will they.
I already stated what Chops is doing. He is introducing as many varied topics into the mix as he can so as to avoid a simple and direct question. He looks mind-numbingly stupid while doing it, too. You might want to consider that before you take sides.
Answer my question, Chop!
That isn’t true. The scientific community has yet to reach a consensus on why some are left-handed and most are right-handed.
That is simply not true, but feel free to prove me otherwise.
Regardless, even if the cause was agreed upon, it wouldn’t make it a trait. Left-handedness is very much a behavior.
Stan,
Please ask your question once again, including its relevance to gay marriage.
Did everyone get this?
Poo-butt here thinks that anyone who is against gay marriage or, to the larger extent, anything that he believes in, is an abomination and should not be alive…
the hypocrisy of his beliefs, the several times he has expressed death towards any and everyone who does not believe the way he does, escapes him.
This little chode is the very definition of every single thing that is wrong with Liberalism and the reason why he is 99% irrelevant.
The only reason he is not 100% is that he and the thousands out there that are just like him, driving the Liberal Agenda are DANGEROUS. These are the very people who will be applying for Obama’s Gestapo once it is approved. Mark my words.
Answer my question, Chops!
Which is not determinative when applying an equal protection analysis.
I never said equal outcome (I think that is what you meant). That is not what equal protection means either.
Please explain to me what the equivalent to ducking or moving is in the context of gay marriage bans.
My local Honda dealer discriminates against Toyotas – I’m suing…
Not gonna take it on as I am with you on it, but you left one thing out. “Siblings marrying is against God’s Law. Nope…can’t invoke any religion into it as religion has been removed from the gavernment, let alone from the entire marriage argument all together.”
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Using whatever logical conclusions one can draw from this:
1. The Fairness Doctrine should be a Slam-Dunk for passage. If congress doesn’t some idiotic judge(s) will.
2. The radio and tv industries should be required to set up completely seperate broadcast facilities and programs for the gay community.
Only seems “fair”. or “Divide and Conquer”
PC is Thought Control
LEE
No, no, no. That isn’t how heredity or genetics works at all. If sexual orientation is determined genetically, it would be able to ‘skip a generation’ the same way that any trait would be able to. Your parents and your children don’t necessarily have the exact same eye color as you, do they?
Good job, eHarmony. This is what you get for trying to negotiate with people who want to hasten your demise.
Incidentally, how can this class-action POS have any merit if eHarmony has already agreed to alter their business practices? Sounds like someone’s trying to catch a windfall in a bum economy.
What a freakin joke.
First, my apologies to you for the typos. PIMF!
Second, I was simply responding to your analogy about the bat. Just because a bat is swung at six feet in height does nto mean those people over six-feet tall will get hit.
A better analogy would be the people that are sexually attracted to children. They are currently prevented from marrying the object of their desire. And spare me the CONSENT argument, as we have already shown the age of consent varies from state-to-state.
Gays have the same rights and restrictions on marriage that we all have. Shall I list for you all the people I am prevented by law from marrying? People like Chops want to frame this argument as if rights are being denied gay people, when in fact it is about gay people both claiming a special right, and forcing the majority to accept the wants and desires of an insignificant minority.
Equal Protection does not apply.
Clearly they are anti-Prius. We should ensure that their children are taught what is CORRECT and that anyone that believes in Hondas dies out. Everyone should tolerate Toyota.
Toyota is winning. Embrace Change. Don’t be a bigot.
Six Flags won’t let people shorter than that sign on their rides – sue, sue,sue,sue!!!! Smallot!
Haven’t read all 600 comments, but has anyone asked where the line will be drawn.
Will pedophiles sue because eHarmony won’t hook them up with kids?
Will beastiality practioners wan’t in on the game?
Will gay oriented websites be forced to cater to straight folks?
All the questions you mentioned were discussed or asked at some point.
Fine.. then Obama should step down and acquiesce to the will of the minority.
I think the point of the argument is that there’s a certain segment of the population that don’t want lines.
Lines suggest standards and morals.
Standards and morals suggest a clear difference between right and wrong, good and evil, acceptance and revulsion, etc.
When what you’re doing is wrong, evil and revolting, you want those lines erased.
Disgusting. NJ-Aviator, exactly.
Now make gay places Christian friendly in the name of “diversity” and of course, recognize hererophobia.
What does that prove? What we’re saying is we should change the restrictions. Gay marriage wouldn’t be a special right for gays, because you’d be allowed to gay marry, too. The exact same rights and restrictions that are in place for straight marriage would apply to gay marriage in regards to the litany of taboos whose societal acceptance you guys like to pretend is
just around the corner.
You’re telling people they should be happy about having a right they don’t want or need at the cost of having a right they both need and want. And for no other reason than Christian squeamishness and paranoia. That isn’t fair, and it isn’t American.
Will everybody be forced to learn to read backwards so lefties can write right, I mean left, I mean… Nevermind.
We’re oppressed, I tell ya.
A church can do whatever it feels it’s religious beliefs dictate, with regard to marriage. Whether the state recognizes it is another question.
But.. the question really is… “Should a church be FORCED to marry a gay couple?”
The answer is a resounding… NO.
Simply retyping ‘equal protection’ over and over is not a coherent argument.
Few on this board would argue against equal protection obligations. However, they would argue a lack of equal protection violations.
Now, mpChops, if you disagree, then please explain clearly. chapoutier’s baseball analogy is not germane.
Do you mean that you believe (of course, as far as I am aware, nobody knows) the predisposition might be an autosomal recessive trait?
Would that indicate that, in some situations, it would have a survival advantage, the way sickle trait provides a survival advantage over normal hemoglobin in malaria-endemic areas?
Has any such advantage been established, or even suggested or hinted at?
Wow! I guess Ted Olson did not see a Class Action Suit coming. Maybe eHarmony should have hired an experienced lawyer.
The Courts Now Own Your Business!
Dexter, you are correct in your base assumptions, erase the lines, we don’t want morals or values, we want the judgement which is knocking at the door. How is our economic porfolios looking today. Don’t want to ask God for His mercy and direction, then He honors your request and leaves it up to us and this is what we get.
I hope the jestors of the clownifornia subpreme court have a ounce of brain matter.
I believe what gay people say being gay is like. That’s good enough for me. It’s not like the existence or non-existence of a gay gene would undermine the point about homosexuality being an immutable characteristic. But I wouldn’t be surprised if it was there, just given the prevalence of homosexuality in the animal kingdom, particularly in primates.
As for the second part of your post, some monkey societies involve bachelor groups that practice having sex on each other, which confers a survival advantage for your genes if it means you’re better prepared for the real deal, I guess.
These people dont stop do they?
Whats next… what more do these gay people want.
If I had a business I can tell you Ill drive it into the ground before I settle with the gay community.
#640 – ITs called the MAFIA.
Dear Gays, do you mind if i post up here…
For the record, I’m not sure that this (the lawsuit against eHarmony) is the position of the entire gay community. It may not even be a majority opinion.
Some heterosexual liberals here believe they represent and understand that community and speak for it as a whole. They ignore everything that a couple of gay conservatives have posted here. They’ve also glossed over some logical arguments that other liberal posters have said regarding this lawsuit.
Let’s not assume that everyone that is homosexual thinks like this, otherwise we fall into the same trap as those that are ranting about “Your kind”.
It’s been a long day, and I’m late to this party!
(Or early, depending on your point of view).
Hi Red Pill.
Check out post #164 when you get a chance. One of the libs accidentally told the truth about their intentions for our children. Frightening stuff.
This whole thread is all the same stuff, though… we’re all bigots because we insist that words mean things and that marriage to one’s own gender isn’t a civil right.
All they’re interested in is getting revenge. They don’t really care if eHarmony offers a service to gays…they just hate Christians and all those that don’t approve of their lifestyle.
Nothing would satisfy them more than to put this company out of business. Really too bad they have this petty attitude.
Tons of sites out there for gay dating. No excuse.
Rape is much more prevalent in the animal kingdom than homosexuality. However, I wouldn’t say that the desire for an animal to rape is an immutable characteristic. In fact, the monkey example you provided doesn’t seem to describe immutable characteristics at all.
That being said, I agree that most human homosexual desires are probably immutable characteristics.
Also, it’s quite probable that pedophilia is a desire which is an immutable characteristic.
In fact, most types of sexual desires are possibly immutable characteristics (for whatever reason).
Now, where does that leave us?
Digshot Get over it sport.
There is no biological proof gayness is hereditary or inborn. You have no constitutional case. Go back to your mommy if you want comfort, but don’t look for validation from the NORMAL folks here.
granite
Do work in the medical field? You’ve got digshot buried with you knowledge. Keep it up.
Well then I guess it’s a good thing I wasn’t using the monkey example to describe immutable characteristics in the first place.
I’m a photographer. I will no longer meet with gay couples who want a wedding/civil union photographer. Sorry, I’m “already booked that day.”
You want a war? You got one.
How has he buried me, I wonder?
Do you even know what he’s talking about, to begin with?
That’s hilarious. A war? Come on that’s a bit melodramatic. Why would they want you to take their pictures anyway? Gay marriage isn’t about you, unless you’re gay and you want to get married.
So, what the heck was your point?
Yes and apparently you don’t.
Digshot
Autosomal recessive disorder means two copies of an abnormal gene must be present in order for the disease or trait to develop.
On November 20th, 2008 at 6:59 pm, CantCureStupid said:
I’m not surprised by what eaglehaslanded said,
but I am surprised that he told the truth.
We are at war, and not just with Jihadists.
We are a Christian nation, and every demonic force that rebels against Jesus Christ is at war against us, and has been for a very long time.
Spiritual warfare is real.
The “Culture war” is real, and is just a manifestation of Spiritual warfare.
You can’t have peace when one or more enemies is actively at war against you. You must fight, submit, or die.
Lan astaslem
(Arabic for “I will not submit/surrender”)
The Vast LEFT-Wing Conspiracy, which includes Gay, Lesbian, Bi, Transgender, Socialists, Communists, Jihadists, etc., have a very determined goal to remove the Biblical foundation upon which this Constitutional Republic was built. They began by taking not just prayer, but the Bible, out of public schools. We have now raised several generations of people who have absolutely zero understanding that this nation was founded as a Christian nation, upon the Bible.
That is called “De-moral-ization”, and it is step 1 of the four step process from freedom to bondage in a Communist system. We have already passed through stage 2 (Destabilization), and we are deep in stage 3 (Crisis) and going deeper.
We truly are on the doorstep of stage 4: Communist Normalization.
But there is hope. I myself am someone who was raised in a liberal,
de-moralized public school system, and I was part of the problem.
Everything began to change when I accepted Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior. I have become “re-moralized” and now I am part of the solution instead of part of the problem. It is time to “remoralize” our country. (a process also known as “revival”, and it has happened several times in the history of this nation).
Christians have been taught to “not offend anyone”. That has to stop. The radical left has no problem offending us. We must speak the truth unapologetically. If some people are offended by that, it is their problem, not ours. We are trying to help them, whether they want the help or not.
Good question, perhaps you should ask the lesbian “couple” who sued a photographer in NM for not taking their money and offer to take pictures of their “ceremony”. What’s next, y’all going to sue Muslim restaurant owners for not serving pork?
Lunatics and Hypocrites.
Surprised they didn’t throw another 60 dollars on there, would have been more appropriate representation of their aims.
I was making a point about how behaviors like homosexuality might actually better an individuals odds to reproduce, even though intuition tells you that it probably shouldn’t.
I know you just googled that. Do you think I’m an idiot?
Rhetorical question.
I can’t stay long tonight, but if this thread is still active tomorrow I may respond to some comments.
It looks like people are waking up to what’s really going on.
That’s a good thing. Awakening precedes revival.
YES
Dig – What alaskangrizz said….
That’s why.
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not for a very long time my friend. I’m at the point where I say let the liberal chickens come home to roost!! let al-qaeda have the blue devil areas…let em live under SHARIA!! oh yeah it would be TOO SWEET
is the sky blue??
you’re a liberal..its part of the definition.
intelligent liberal = oxymoron
with choices…
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FROM MY MANY POSTS I HAVE TOLD ALL OF YOU HERE, THAT I’M NOT A RELIGIOUS PERSON. But please don’t despair. I beleive in the strength of the Christians and their faith. You will always be with us in this great country.
Um, ok. Wait, human homosexuality? Nevermind. It’s meaningless anyway. (I assume that you were just answering someone’s question – not necessarily trying to make a point.)
BTW, have you come to terms with your bigotry against polygamists?
thank you my friend. I don’t despair…well sometimes in the short run…but in the long run I know Who wins… but I’m at the point if al-qaeda attacks a blue area, I would not feel the need to respond in any way shape or form. why defend these people? let their little blue-devil kids join the military and defend the country. let their chickens come home to roost!!!
I was gone four hours and it’s still running.
you know since we’re talking about animal behavior….it would be cool to have a situation like the male lion…let the women do all the work!!
and just eat, sleep, and procreate…and kill a few hyenas (be those hyenas are liberal!!!
)
oh yeah!!
A good friend of mine told me years ago that the liberal movements core motivation was the threat from those people with a strong value system. Mainly people of religion. He told me, which is obvious by this thread that libs want to stick it to any one, any time and anywhere they want. You may examine any cause that the left is involved in and you will find the core motivation is freedom from sexual restrictions.
Digshot said:
No. To say I “think” you are something implies there are some grounds for doubt.
Beyond being completely off topic, and in my own subjective opinion rather heartless… did it occur to you that blue areas are not somehow devoid of red persons (and vice versa)?
As Ravi Zacharias once said (paraphrasing) in a speech once about the logical conclusion of Nietzsche’s “God is dead, and we’ve killed him” in his ‘Parable of the Madman.’ was that in the void that they have seeked to create for themselves in being free of absolute truth and morals that you end up with two likely outcomes. He quoted the words of Malcolm Muggeridge:
What about my right not to pay taxes?
Folks its over 600 messages to late to say this. but I will-
DON’T FEED THE TROLLS!
GSP
For you liberals attempting to demonize eHarmony-back off and enough already.
If you aren’t a paying member, and by the tone of voice on this board that would be about 99.9% of you liberals, leave us alone and let us shop at a business that gives us what we want.
If I want to date a Steve, then I’ll find a gay dating site to do that since there are more of those than Christian based dating services on the net.
GSP
BTW-I already changed my eHarmony profile page to make it clear that no gays need to answer my profile and intiate communication.
But they were fun little critters.
Of course my alter ego “Flash Gordon” may need to come back out for another mission to save this planet.
GSP
“This is Sparta!”
eHarmony is a service. Those who supply a service are not allowed to deny this service to people on the basis of certain immeutable traits they posess (gender, race, age, sexual orientation). eHarmony violated this, and they were duly punished. End of story.
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As for the class-action suit, I wouldn’t worry too much about eHarmony. Word is the gay mob has contracted the law firm of James Sokolove. Apparently the mesothelioma thing didn’t work out and he decided to hitch up to this gay-vy train.
Hey look, the bigot is back! Why don’t you join in the lawsuits against gay dating services then, since they are also “a service denying” non-gays. Hypocrite.
Here’s a nice link showing the tolerance, inclusion, love and kindness of the unhinged no-on-8 crowd.
I especially liked the pic of the loving lovers lovingly
lovingmocking the children on their way to a meetinghouse.Do you even understand that word? Generally, those who opress and smear and seek to undermine at every single oppertunity the rights of a vulnerable minority for no rational reason are considered bigots. That term describes Michelle Malkin, and most likely you, too. Not me.
If someone takes a gay dating service to court, and if the court decides that this service broke the law, then I will of course support that decision.
Yawn. Not only is that NOT the end of story – it’s the wrong story.
They didn’t deny THEIR service to anyone based on any “immeutable[sic]” traits.
They didn’t deny THEIR service – they refused to initiate a NEW service. Get the story right.
Please, you’ve chosen to speak out against the rights of consenting polygamists. You might be in denial, but you are most certainly a bigot.
He/she/it Emu managed to contradict him/her/itself in just two posts. give him/her/it a cookie.
Silly, Silly poor confused Emu.
Emu, I believe a similar comment has been made earlier, so I’ll plagiarize: If a vegetarian resaraunt exists, you can’t force it to grill a steak. If you can, it is no longer a vegetarian restaraunt.
It’s like that here: eHarmony offers a service to heterosexuals. Their service isn’t designed for gays, who are at least different psychologically. They would likely have to create a whole new profiling system to accomodate that. They would therefore be forced by law to do something they don’t already do.
Now, about the mental midget that called everyone on this blog “knuckle draggers.” I have actually been called that due to my appearance, but since you’ve never likely seen me I can only conclude that your true purpose is to show the world that there is one person with a single digit IQ that can use a computer. That being the case my brain-cell deficient friend, you could probably do the world a service by trying some piruettes on the 405 at 5:30 in the afternoon. (If the cars don’t get him, the bullets will.)
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SHEHEIT
Wow, Emu, you may not be a bigot, but you sure aren’t too bright.
You do not need to be in a position of power or authority to be a bigot. A naked man (or Emu) alone in an empty room can be a bigot. Bigotry is how you regard and treat others, not whether or not you can affect them.
Wow. I’m not too bright. I just realized I quoted the wrong post.
Apologies to Cosmo.
But not to Emu. Go ahead and gloat.
Here’s the one I was after:
Now, I have been accused of being stupid. And sometimes, they’re right.
But I’m still right about Emu.
Shame on them for capitulation. Better to close down than pay the Danegeld, or Gaygeld. But just more evidence of the totalitarian nature of “civil rights”, Democrats with the power of the state behind them, and homosexuals, who are just better coifured Nazis.
But more than willing to accept a campaign donation from.
Boo hoo…I want my baabaa
If you were that “vulnerable”, you wouldn’t be busy pickin’ fights!