The problem? GOVERNMENT rules prevented Jeep from selling the immensely popular and fast-selling Diesel Liberty (2003 – 2007 model years) in many states, including mine. Thus, Jeep dropped the diesel engine from the lineup.

Why would the government prevent a fast-selling super-efficient vehicle from being sold? Old, outdated environmental laws that were aimed at 1970′s era diesels and old, high-sulfur diesel fuel that hasn’t been made or sold in almost a decade.

So, I can’t buy a Diesel Jeep Liberty. I don’t get to make my own bio-diesel in my backyard shed and save serious money while helping the environment by burning low-carbon emission fuel I make from waste oil. I HAVE TO burn gasoline because here in Buffalo NY it snows large amounts and at least ONE 4×4 or AWD per family is required by the weather. My wife drives a Hyundai Elantra, I drive a Jeep.

This is the problem Digshot. The government isn’t nimble enough to respond to changing conditions like the market can. And it’s NOT a matter of just “electing the right people”. Government BY IT’S NATURE is NOT NIMBLE and CAN NEVER BE. it doesn’t matter who is running the government, it will always SUCK. And with the corruption in our government, it’s guaranteed to never be successful.

This is why government regulation is bad. Because the market conditions change on a daily basis, but regulations change once every decade, government regulations intended to assist the market or protect consumers end up hurting everybody but the government bureaucrats paid to administer the regulatory system.

(Feigned laughter and golf claps when Jon Stewart rattles off “Bush is an idiot” variant 4,789,113 does not count.)

http://www.myersmotors.com/

Personally though, I never have liked SUVs, still don’t.

They tump over easily, they block the view of people in smaller vehicles, causing accidents. They squash people in smaller vehicles. They make parking more difficult

ok, they do turn over a little more easily than a car…as far as blocking the view…so do 18 wheelers….so????

squashing people?? yeah like 18 wheelers don’t please….

make parking more difficult??? huh???

They promote road rage, especially when occupied by one person, usually female, talking on her cell phone

uh…..you have issues with this I see…

Statistically, they turn left in front of motorcycles more often.

well maybe they off a few more hell’s angels or mongols…see they’re doing us a favor!!

On November 21st, 2008 at 3:26 pm, right4life said:
SUVs also create a whole slew of road safety issues that have killed thousands of people themselves.
post your proof.

They tump over easily, they block the view of people in smaller vehicles, causing accidents. They squash people in smaller vehicles. They make parking more difficult. They promote road rage, especially when occupied by one person, usually female, talking on her cell phone. The “styling” is pretty much non-existent IMO. They are so behemoth they make people who don’t even like them buy one as a defense against the sheer size of the bizzillions of them on the road. Statistically, they turn left in front of motorcycles more often.

But, they will keep selling unless the price of gas goes way up and stays there.

your last post about burning through resources?…I’m not sure if the rhetoric has any relation to the true state of affairs….this isn’t a slam at you…..just a remark that it’s hard to choose who to believe…..

I’m not above building a smoking golf cart….or converting to biofuels…

but having government insinuate itself into my life more than they already are?

doesn’t work for me….

you apparently don’t believe in market forces…

that’s your right….

but don’t pretend to think that you know what’s best for society as a whole..

you don’t….

all respect to the ZX-14….I once had one of the two-stroke Kawasaki triples clean my clock…lol

And used to own a little Honda 500 Interceptor that would absolutely dance up the canyons in Arizona..

But right now?…I like my Harley…and no one should tell me I can’t have it….not government…not community…

That’s what this thread is about…individual choice without coercion…

from anyone…

On November 22nd, 2008 at 1:37 am, Cal City Conservative said:

I’ll give the win to you brother! My point is that here in America we should be able to drive anything we want….any size car,truck,motorcycle,or suv with as big a motor as you want.I’m with RUSH73,we shouldn’t have to be forced into little European or Jap sub-compacts because the enviroidiots in Washington(read:Socialist union hacks) have crippled this country by banning drilling.But it looks like the newly elected Politburo will see to it that we’ll be puttering about in a Pelosi GTxi SS/RT type piece of $h*t.

If we had’ve done that in the first place and not let people who couldn’t afford a house get one we wouldn’t be in this economic mess.

The worst pick yet from the next Socialist Congress is the replacing of Congressman John Dingell of Michigan for Henry Waxman of California for Chairman of the Energy and Commerce Committee. A pro-auto industry congressman replaced by a radical environmentalist favored by Pelosi…..just great!!!

On November 22nd, 2008 at 12:14 am, ironman said:

IndependentTom said:

and btw Ironman…bet my Harley will smoke your rides in an eighth….either of them..
OT:

I’m not Ironman but Tom and Yashmak I would stomp a mud hole in your butt and walk it dry in ANY race with my FJR.

Fast and Harley are two words that should NEVER be used with each other in the same sentence.

Primitive noisy junk maybe, but not fast, yep I despise them….

The beauty of a big block engine is that it can be built with enough HP to push a car faster than a bike.Check out this 68 Dodge outrunning a crotchrocket!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CD4izK-sjS4

That’s not a Harley, and also there are a few that as shown can do that. That is the exception not the rule. Also I would hope so, that looks like a 600. Remind me how much bigger that engine is??

Put a guy who knows how to ride and race on a ZX14 beside that Dodge and bye bye Dodge. Have to say that Dodge did get with the program though!!!

Also SHoward the quiet Harleys are FEW and FAR between.