Thanksgiving Derangement Syndrome

By Michelle Malkin  •  November 25, 2008 01:58 PM

A school fight breaks out over dressing students as Pilgrims and Indians.

Crikey.

Just dress all the kids up as yams and cranberries instead and be done with it.

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  1. #556850
    On November 25th, 2008 at 2:01 pm, sonofdy said:

    This is just another way to destroy the american culture. The founding fathers would be storming washington DC by now.

  2. #556852
    On November 25th, 2008 at 2:04 pm, Craig said:

    “Some say having students dress up as pilgrims and Native Americans is ‘demeaning.’”

    Have the kids dress up as turkeys, that should do wonders for their self- esteem.

  3. #556854
    On November 25th, 2008 at 2:05 pm, spidgy said:

    Raheja, an English professor at UC Riverside who specializes in Native American literature…

    Surprise, surprise…

  4. #556855
    On November 25th, 2008 at 2:05 pm, BlameAmericaLast said:

    On November 25th, 2008 at 2:01 pm, sonofdy said:

    This is just another way to destroy the american culture. The founding fathers would be storming washington DC by now.

    Culture? Traditions? There’s hardly anything left anymore. The left wing whack job nutbags are still eliminating Christmas every chance they get.

    All in the name of “diversity” and political correctness.

    When are people going to wake up?

  5. #556857
    On November 25th, 2008 at 2:06 pm, frostrt said:

    To all those trying to PC-ify Thanksgiving or any other holiday:

    LIGHTEN. UP.

    No one says you have to participate if you don’t want to. But don’t try to make the rest of us feel guilty.

    ‘Cause we don’t. And we have no reason to.

  6. #556858
    On November 25th, 2008 at 2:14 pm, MBuck said:

    Wow. Rawhatever, get over yourself, you PINHEAD.

  7. #556859
    On November 25th, 2008 at 2:16 pm, chapoutier said:

    I agree.

    Lighten the heck up.

    I also support Christmas carols sung in school, even though I find them personally insipid.

  8. #556860
    On November 25th, 2008 at 2:17 pm, flmom said:

    Of the handful of others who spoke with Raheja against the costumes at the board meeting, one teaches at the University of Redlands, one is an instructor at Riverside Community College, and one is a former Pitzer College professor.

    It’s obvious that they all failed Commonsense 101. I feel like telling them “Quit yer whining and serve the turkey.”

  9. #556861
    On November 25th, 2008 at 2:18 pm, fighterDC said:

    The lefty loons want us all to wear white clothes and sneakers and kill ourselves to catch a passing comet so we can meet space aliens…oh wait..that was a different cult.

    It’s too bad these crazy parents can’t understand the underlying, positive morals of teaching kids to sit down with those with which they have differences and move forward. Damnit, I forgot, the libs don’t have morals. Man, I am just off today.

  10. #556863
    On November 25th, 2008 at 2:18 pm, Cicero said:

    I’ll bet none of those Pilgrims were transgendered either.

    BIGOTS!

  11. #556865
    On November 25th, 2008 at 2:18 pm, BKennedy said:

    Raheja, an English professor at UC Riverside who specializes in Native American literature…

    Perhaps I’m just being a fly in the ointment here, but… Raheja’s field wouldn’t even EXIST were it not for those evil pilgrims and their books and their printing presses and their written communication and such.

  12. #556866
    On November 25th, 2008 at 2:18 pm, b-cat said:

    No way do we want to celebrate two different ethnic groups setting aside their differences and sharing a meal. Jerks.

    Sorry, I’m name calling again.

  13. #556868
    On November 25th, 2008 at 2:19 pm, James Felix said:

    Some say having students dress up as pilgrims and Native Americans is ‘demeaning.’

    On the other hand, teaching them that their nation is uniquely wicked and evil is a real self-esteem builder.

  14. #556871
    On November 25th, 2008 at 2:20 pm, Hangfire said:

    Funny…. I remember being an Amerikaner boy (Air Force brat) living in a little town in Germany, playing Cowboys and Indians with the local German kids my age.

    All the German kids wanted to be Indians. I always had to be a damn Cowboy.

    Same as when we played Combat. The German kids always wanted to be the Americans. I was always a Nazi, but I got to wear a cool helmet!

  15. #556872
    On November 25th, 2008 at 2:20 pm, cpodug said:

    “Its always a good thing to think about, critically, how we teach kids, even from very young ages, the message we want them to learn, and the respect for the diversity of the American experiences,” said Jennifer Tilton, an assistant professor of race and ethnic studies at the University of Redlands and a Claremont parent who opposes the costumes.

    Glad this (fill in your own favorite epithet here) professor isn’t teaching my kids. If Thanksgiving isn’t the embodiment of “the American experience,” what is?

  16. #556873
    On November 25th, 2008 at 2:21 pm, James Felix said:

    Perhaps I’m just being a fly in the ointment here, but… Raheja’s field wouldn’t even EXIST were it not for those evil pilgrims and their books and their printing presses and their written communication and such.

    Hey!! Stop trying to bring logic and facts into this!

  17. #556874
    On November 25th, 2008 at 2:22 pm, Elm Creek Smith said:

    A friend of mine founded an organization named People Offended by Offended People, or P.O.O.P. There are no membership dues or application forms needed, you only have to speak out when stupidity like this rears its ugly head.

    ECS

  18. #556875
    On November 25th, 2008 at 2:22 pm, twiggman said:

    maybe we should just send them to a same sex wedding?

  19. #556877
    On November 25th, 2008 at 2:25 pm, Jarhead said:

    Let me get this straight the Plymouth colonists (The Pilgrims) and Native Americans (The Wampanoag Indians) had a harvest festival (as we know as Thanksgiving)and the problem is these children are doing a childs reenactment of the events. Then we wonder why our children have no grasp of our History or Culture. Screw the PC police. I don’t remember the Plymouth colonists (The Pilgrims) enslaving the Native Americans (The Wampanoag Indians) either when I was learning my history of the New World in school.

  20. #556878
    On November 25th, 2008 at 2:29 pm, Southpaw said:

    Because the term “Thanksgiving” may be offensive to some people on cultural and religious grounds, the holiday formerly known as Thanksgiving will now be referred to as “Food Day”.

    That is all. – The Cultural Police

  21. #556879
    On November 25th, 2008 at 2:30 pm, John Deaux said:

    On November 25th, 2008 at 2:18 pm, fighterDC said:
    The lefty loons want us all to wear white clothes and sneakers

    Why does it always have to be about color?

    /sarc

  22. #556880
    On November 25th, 2008 at 2:30 pm, babbledabble said:

    Is there something in the air out in California? How else could so many people be this demented?

  23. #556881
    On November 25th, 2008 at 2:31 pm, Dexter Alarius said:

    “Its always a good thing to think about, critically, how we teach indoctrinate kids, even from very young ages, the message we want them to learn, and the respect for the diversity of the American experiences, except of course any mention of the Judeo-Christian origins of our Nation and anything positive.” said Jennifer Tilton, an assistant professor of race and ethnic studies at the blah blah blah

    I guess they’re teaching the kids that American Indians are sensitive, whiney, victim-hood mongers.

  24. #556883
    On November 25th, 2008 at 2:31 pm, b-cat said:

    They hate the Pilgrims because they were Christians escaping religious persecution.

    They hate the Indians for not being the victim all the time.

    They hate teaching US history because they’re liberals.

  25. #556882
    On November 25th, 2008 at 2:31 pm, Right_Wired said:

    Let her know how you feel:

    http://english.ucr.edu/people/faculty/raheja/index.html

    Michelle Raheja, Assistant Professor
    (951) 827-1799
    michelle.raheja@ucr.edu

  26. #556884
    On November 25th, 2008 at 2:32 pm, Hangfire said:

    On November 25th, 2008 at 2:30 pm, babbledabble said:
    Is there something in the air out in California? How else could so many people be this demented?

    Hmmmm. I thought all the demented ones moved to Seattle area.

  27. #556885
    On November 25th, 2008 at 2:32 pm, DarthRove said:

    “Some say having students dress up as pilgrims and Native Americans is ‘demeaning.’”

    Some say having leftarded nanny-statist crapweasels in charge of our schools is “idiotic”, “nonsensical”, and “disgraceful”. And they’d be right.

  28. #556887
    On November 25th, 2008 at 2:34 pm, John Deaux said:

    Maybe we could alter it according to Raheja’s view of history. The students dressed as Indians could whine about their feelings and the students dressed as Pilgrims could give them liquor and small pox infected blankets?

    Or they could just share some turkey.

  29. #556888
    On November 25th, 2008 at 2:36 pm, CantCureStupid said:

    “Diversity” only has meaning if it makes straight white CHristians look like schmucks… otherwise, straight white Christians are schmucks.

    Can’t win for losing with these dipsticks.

  30. #556890
    On November 25th, 2008 at 2:39 pm, Dexter Alarius said:

    Just dress all the kids up as yams and cranberries instead and be done with it.

    That would be caving in to the demands of the vocal fringe. I say tell Raheja to shove it up her wigwam.

  31. #556892
    On November 25th, 2008 at 2:40 pm, MNUSMCDavid said:

    Jarhead
    to add what you recounted, the Wampanoags offered their knowledge of farming to the Pilgrims AND taught them how to prepare the food stuffs they provided. What better way to show the positive interrelationships that were had back then. This Raheja is a idiot of the first level and a moron.

  32. #556894
    On November 25th, 2008 at 2:41 pm, MNUSMCDavid said:

    An idiot, I mean.

  33. #556896
    On November 25th, 2008 at 2:41 pm, txvet2 said:

    On November 25th, 2008 at 2:16 pm, chapoutier said:

    I agree.

    Lighten the heck up.

    I also support Christmas carols sung in school, even though I find them personally insipid.

    Don’t worry. Someday you’ll graduate to the 7th grade, where they think such things are childish.

  34. #556898
    On November 25th, 2008 at 2:42 pm, PhredE said:

    Wow, how ironic – she teaches in the English Dept. at UC Riverside….
    [rolls eyes...sigh]

    Arm an academician with a high level graduate degree and a political agenda, and voila! … and what do you get???

    Happy Thanksgiving Everyone! – Pilgrims, “Indians”, et al.

  35. #556899
    On November 25th, 2008 at 2:43 pm, Room 237 said:

    I love Thanksgiving. It is better than Christmas in my estimation because we cannot do to the essence of Thanksgiving what we have done to Christmas.

    My family came to the United States between 1900 and 1920. Most of my friends growing up were in the same situation. I never met someone who traced their ancestry back to the Mayflower until I met my college roommate.

    Yet I loved dressinig up as a Pilgrim or an Indian and putting on a little skit about the First Thanksgiving. Yes it was 99% myth but so what.

    My son’s kindergarten is celebrating “Narvest Festival” today. I guess “Thanksgiving” is too controversial.

    We are screwed.

  36. #556903
    On November 25th, 2008 at 2:44 pm, flmom said:

    Another case of a minority opinion spoiling it for the majority. I hope the mothers who have no problem with this custom just go ahead and hold the gathering. Let the kids have fun and if Raheja wants to boycott it, no-one is holding a gun to her head and making her go along.

  37. #556904
    On November 25th, 2008 at 2:46 pm, right4life said:

    On November 25th, 2008 at 2:16 pm, chapoutier said:
    I agree.

    I also support Christmas carols sung in school, even though I find them personally insipid.

    uh ok mr. Scrooge :roll: those are some wonderfully inspired songs…see Handel’s Messiah, which is probably the most inspired piece of music ever written….though amazing grace is right up there…

  38. #556906
    On November 25th, 2008 at 2:46 pm, Dexter Alarius said:

    On a tangential note, my wife’s boss, an Air Force Colonel, has prohibited his officers from mentioning “Christmas”.

    Excuse me?! Isn’t Christmas a FEDERAL HOLIDAY?!!! I’m not a very happy camper.

  39. #556907
    On November 25th, 2008 at 2:46 pm, Jarhead said:

    I will give thanks this Thanksgiving that I do not know people like this PC bunch. Yet, if I did I would give them a good tongue thrashing of what total idots they are being, who the children really by taking a look in the mirror professor.

  40. #556908
    On November 25th, 2008 at 2:46 pm, NavyMom said:

    My great-grandparents were full-blooded Cherokee Indians (yes, Indians, not Native Americans…sheesh). As a direct descendant of the proud Cherokee nation, I am offended by the desire of ultra-sensitive Indians to banish from the memories of American children how Indians dressed. I was always taught to be very proud of my heritage. What is so offensive about a cute kid wearing a cut-out feather head-dress and beads? I love it.

  41. #556909
    On November 25th, 2008 at 2:46 pm, Room 237 said:

    >Narvest Festival”

    I meant HARVEST Festival.

  42. #556910
    On November 25th, 2008 at 2:47 pm, txvet2 said:

    On November 25th, 2008 at 2:25 pm, Jarhead said:

    Michelle Raheja’s problem is that she’s part Seneca, and we kicked the snot out of them every time they backed the wrong side. Of course, they slaughtered a bunch of frontier settlers and destroyed their settlements in the process.

  43. #556911
    On November 25th, 2008 at 2:47 pm, Southpaw said:

    Do you think the liberals ever wonder why us “Malkinites” are the way we are? Maybe some of us are rebelling against the whining, nanny, PC crap we were subjected to as kids (and our entire lives). I see a whole generation of conservatives coming down the pike.

  44. #556912
    On November 25th, 2008 at 2:48 pm, chapoutier said:

    Don’t worry. Someday you’ll graduate to the 7th grade, where they think such things are childish.

    No. After this year I’m quitting to work the farm with my pa.

  45. #556915
    On November 25th, 2008 at 2:50 pm, NavyMom said:

    #37 — Thanks for the clarification, Room 237! I was Googling “Narvest Festival” and muttering to myself, “Did I miss something??” HA!

  46. #556916
    On November 25th, 2008 at 2:51 pm, Send_Me said:

    I’m honestly surprised that Thanksgiving is still “celebrated” in this country. Just as you can’t find the name of Jesus anywhere in the Christmas section of most stores, the whole story of Thanksgiving has been lost/hijacked in our culture.
    Because of its timeliness, here’s something Rush Limbaugh wrote on the subject.

  47. #556917
    On November 25th, 2008 at 2:51 pm, chapoutier said:

    uh ok mr. Scrooge :roll: those are some wonderfully inspired songs…see Handel’s Messiah, which is probably the most inspired piece of music ever written….though amazing grace is right up there…

    I don’t consider Messiah a “Christmas carol.”

    I was talking about the run of the mill “Rudolph” and “Here Comes Santa Claus.”

    And in any case I would never begrudge children their songs just because I may pierce my eardrums with an awl if I hear “I Saw Mommy Kissing Santa Claus” one more time.

  48. #556918
    On November 25th, 2008 at 2:51 pm, frostrt said:

    On November 25th, 2008 at 2:16 pm, chapoutier said:
    I agree.

    Lighten the heck up.

    I also support Christmas carols sung in school, even though I find them personally insipid.

    ————————————–

    “Grandma Got Run Over By A Reindeer” (stupid), “The Christmas Shoes” (downer!) . . . . some are beautiful, but some are pretty insipid.

    Oh, and lest we forget: “Last Christmas, I gave you my heart . . .”
    PLEASE!

  49. #556919
    On November 25th, 2008 at 2:51 pm, Flyoverman said:

    The problem with these people is there is no sense of fogiving and forgetting. Raheja’s attitude is EXACTLY the attitude that perpetuates hate and causes endless wars. She’d fit in well in the Balkans.

    If you want to adopt her attitude then we are justified in wiping every Native American out for what they did to Custer and countless settlers. While were at it, let’s kill all the Japanese for Peral Harbor and the way they treated our POW’s.

    Yes, IN THE DISTANT PAST there were many bad things that happened. But on that one day we call Thanksgiving, people did get together IN PEACE. I think it is a fine example of how people should treat one another. It is worth celebrating. it was one good day that can serve as a model for all our days.

  50. #556920
    On November 25th, 2008 at 2:52 pm, huggybear said:

    I’m experiencing Derangement Syndrome Derangement Syndrome (DSDS). If I pointed out that Krauthammer was joking when he coined the term, and that accusing people you disagree with of having a mental disorder is nothing more than a childish means of weasling out of rational debate, would that make it stop? No? Didn’t think so.

  51. #556921
    On November 25th, 2008 at 2:53 pm, b-cat said:

    On November 25th, 2008 at 2:51 pm, frostrt said:
    Oh, and lest we forget: “Last Christmas, I gave you my heart . . .”
    PLEASE!

    You really hate that song, don’t you?

  52. #556922
    On November 25th, 2008 at 2:53 pm, sonofdy said:

    On November 25th, 2008 at 2:16 pm, chapoutier said:

    Your fellow icelanders (damn fish muchers) are rioting in the streets!!! Methinks they have the right idea and we should be storming capital hill.

  53. #556923
    On November 25th, 2008 at 2:53 pm, right4life said:

    I was talking about the run of the mill “Rudolph” and “Here Comes Santa Claus.”

    oh ok..I think of silent night, gloria in excelsis deo, etc…

    as far as the Messiah, the symphony usually performs it at christmas…

  54. #556925
    On November 25th, 2008 at 2:55 pm, frostrt said:

    On November 25th, 2008 at 2:52 pm, huggybear said:
    I’m experiencing Derangement Syndrome Derangement Syndrome (DSDS). If I pointed out that Krauthammer was joking when he coined the term, and that accusing people you disagree with of having a mental disorder is nothing more than a childish means of weasling out of rational debate, would that make it stop? No? Didn’t think so.

    ————————————–

    Maybe we say it with our “tongue in cheek”, too. Some of their reactions seem a bit overblown, is what we mean to say.

  55. #556926
    On November 25th, 2008 at 2:55 pm, sonofdy said:

    Oh, and lest we forget: “Last Christmas, I gave you my heart . . .”
    PLEASE!

    OUT damn demon named michael, the spirit of christ compelles you!!! the spirt of christ compelles you!!

  56. #556927
    On November 25th, 2008 at 2:55 pm, Jarhead said:

    On November 25th, 2008 at 2:40 pm, MNUSMCDavid said:
    Jarhead
    to add what you recounted, the Wampanoags offered their knowledge of

    You got that straight MNUSMCDavid and what a feast they must of had lobster, oysters,clams, trout, venison, wildberries, wild herbs etc. etc.

  57. #556928
    On November 25th, 2008 at 2:56 pm, hawkeye54 said:

    Just dress all the kids up as yams and cranberries instead and be done with it.

    I dunno, I think the folks at this site:

    vegetablecruelty.com

    would take offense – you know, disrespecting yams and cranberries : )

    Some loonies, or in the words of Bugs Bunny, maroons would be happier if people just didn’t exist.

    All I have to say to them is – YOU FIRST!

  58. #556929
    On November 25th, 2008 at 2:56 pm, txvet2 said:

    On November 25th, 2008 at 2:51 pm, chapoutier said:

    I don’t consider Messiah a “Christmas carol.”

    That’s the equivalent of calling Beethoven’s Ninth Symphony a song.

  59. #556930
    On November 25th, 2008 at 2:56 pm, chapoutier said:

    oh ok..I think of silent night, gloria in excelsis deo, etc…

    as far as the Messiah, the symphony usually performs it at christmas…

    Yeah…those are a fine and beautiful. I think Little Drummer Boy falls just on the side of acceptable.

    Your fellow icelanders

    I am hoping they go in a deep depression and are forced into cannibalism so that, at last, the Icelandic scourge is wiped from the face of the Earth.

  60. #556931
    On November 25th, 2008 at 2:57 pm, cheapseat said:

    millimeter by millimeter we let these agenda morons deprive us of our liberties. it was inch by inch, but we gave that up 2 decades ago. we used to be able to smoke, drink, and laugh at jokes. then we had cigarette pack warnings, then ban the ads, then ban smoking in public buildings, then ban smoking in all buildings, then ban smoking everywhere. it’s up to us to tell these dizzy busybody b****es to go home, kiss their lesbian partner hi, and tend to their business.

  61. #556932
    On November 25th, 2008 at 2:57 pm, nlebou said:

    On November 25th, 2008 at 2:20 pm, Hangfire said:
    Funny…. I remember being an Amerikaner boy (Air Force brat) living in a little town in Germany, playing Cowboys and Indians with the local German kids my age.

    All the German kids wanted to be Indians. I always had to be a damn Cowboy.

    Same as when we played Combat. The German kids always wanted to be the Americans. I was always a Nazi, but I got to wear a cool helmet!

    Ditto for my ex-husband. His family was in Germany for 6yrs in the 60’s and I swear he told me the same thing almost word for word several years ago.

  62. #556935
    On November 25th, 2008 at 2:58 pm, Uncle Monkey said:

    Huh.
    I’m Chocktaw, and the only thing that insults me is these kooks injecting their personal issues into a simple and well-meaning celebration.

    If the kids want to put construction paper hats and feathers on, more power to them.

    Just don’t make ‘em sign GLBT pledge cards.

  63. #556936
    On November 25th, 2008 at 2:58 pm, frostrt said:

    On November 25th, 2008 at 2:53 pm, b-cat said:
    On November 25th, 2008 at 2:51 pm, frostrt said:
    Oh, and lest we forget: “Last Christmas, I gave you my heart . . .”
    PLEASE!
    You really hate that song, don’t you?

    ————————————–

    It was pretty cheesy. But it’s all in good fun; “hate” is a strong word. I’m more of a traditionalist when it comes to my Christmas music.

    If you like it, to each their own.

  64. #556937
    On November 25th, 2008 at 2:59 pm, right4life said:

    I am hoping they go in a deep depression and are forced into cannibalism so that, at last, the Icelandic scourge is wiped from the face of the Earth.

    they should return to their VIKING ROOTS…rape, pillage, pirate!!!

    its doing wonders for the economy of somalia!!!

    more fun too!!

  65. #556938
    On November 25th, 2008 at 2:59 pm, chapoutier said:

    You got that straight MNUSMCDavid and what a feast they must of had lobster, oysters,clams, trout, venison, wildberries, wild herbs etc. etc.

    Yeah, this year my inlaws are foregoing the traditional Thanksgiving and instead we are doing a Lobster, crab, oysters, steamers…with corn and potatoes.

    I am very excited by this.

  66. #556941
    On November 25th, 2008 at 3:00 pm, huggybear said:

    On November 25th, 2008 at 2:55 pm, frostrt said:

    Some of their reactions seem a bit overblown, is what we mean to say.

    Uhhh….

    On November 25th, 2008 at 2:57 pm, cheapseat said:

    millimeter by millimeter we let these agenda morons deprive us of our liberties. it was inch by inch, but we gave that up 2 decades ago. we used to be able to smoke, drink, and laugh at jokes. then we had cigarette pack warnings, then ban the ads, then ban smoking in public buildings, then ban smoking in all buildings, then ban smoking everywhere. it’s up to us to tell these dizzy busybody b****es to go home, kiss their lesbian partner hi, and tend to their business.

    …So are some of yours.

  67. #556942
    On November 25th, 2008 at 3:01 pm, b-cat said:

    On November 25th, 2008 at 2:57 pm, nlebou said:
    On November 25th, 2008 at 2:20 pm, Hangfire said:
    Funny…. I remember being an Amerikaner boy (Air Force brat) living in a little town in Germany, playing Cowboys and Indians with the local German kids my age.

    All the German kids wanted to be Indians. I always had to be a damn Cowboy.

    Same as when we played Combat. The German kids always wanted to be the Americans. I was always a Nazi, but I got to wear a cool helmet!

    Ditto for my ex-husband. His family was in Germany for 6yrs in the 60’s and I swear he told me the same thing almost word for word several years ago.

    I was in Germany in grade school in the 60s too. We didn’t play with the Germans, though. They’re evil white guys.

  68. #556943
    On November 25th, 2008 at 3:01 pm, Laree said:

    Clearly too many VChiefs not enough Braves :)

    When did the public school system turn into the “designer school system” that is what the individuals, inserting themselves into the School’s curiculum are doing (they think it is their right to design a TRADITIONAL school play?” They are trying to make their childs PUBLIC school experience al carte….too funny the Adminstrators need to stop putting up with the “in put” that is nothing more then self centered narcissism “who” gets to decide for everyone else? I betcha the “who” are not in the Majority.

    They know they can design their own credit card, they watched the commericial on TV so now they want to design their children’s Thanksgiving Play…Why? Marketers told them they should be able to design and personalize whatever they want…there are some not too bright people out there who get lots of information wrong. Did anyone watch “How Obama Got Elected” I am not sure how these folks, process information but the results show they don’t GET IT!

  69. #556944
    On November 25th, 2008 at 3:01 pm, Hangfire said:

    I think there should be a $10,000 fine per day for stores that put up Christmas “stuff” prior to the day after Thanksgiving.

    This would, of course, not apply to Christmas-themed stores that are open year round.

  70. #556945
    On November 25th, 2008 at 3:02 pm, Dexter Alarius said:

    I am hoping they go in a deep depression and are forced into cannibalism so that, at last, the Icelandic scourge is wiped from the face of the Earth.

    Please, let Bjork be the first one roasted!

  71. #556946
    On November 25th, 2008 at 3:02 pm, frostrt said:

    On November 25th, 2008 at 2:55 pm, sonofdy said:
    Oh, and lest we forget: “Last Christmas, I gave you my heart . . .”
    PLEASE!
    OUT damn demon named michael, the spirit of christ compelles you!!! the spirt of christ compelles you!!

    ————————————-

    Whoa, Snodfy! Now I have an image of his head spinning around and pea soup all over the place! How Christmasy!

  72. #556948
    On November 25th, 2008 at 3:07 pm, chapoutier said:

    Please, let Bjork be the first one roasted!

    Nahhh…too much work plucking all the feathers.

  73. #556949
    On November 25th, 2008 at 3:07 pm, Danceswithdachshunds said:

    Have the kids learn to recite George Washington’s Thanksgiving Proclamation of Oct 3, 1789

    third paragraph:

    … And also, that we may then unite in most humbly offering our prayers and supplications to the great Lord and Ruler of Nations and beseech Him to pardon our national and other transgressions;– to enable us all, whether in publick or private stations, to perform our several and relative duties properly and punctually; to render our National Government a blessing to all the people by constantly being a Government of wise, just, and constitutional laws, discreetly and faithfully executed and obeyed; to protect and guide all sovereigns and nations (especially such as have shewn kindness unto us); and to bless them with good governments, peace, and concord; to promote the knowledge and practice of true religion and virtue, and the increase of science among them and us; and, generally to grant unto all mankind such a degree of temporal prosperity as he alone knows to be best. …

    … a Government of wise, just, and constitutional laws, discreetly and faithfully executed and obeyed

    Indeed

  74. #556950
    On November 25th, 2008 at 3:07 pm, flmom said:

    huggybear

    So you’d have no problem with an aggrieved few dictating how your kindergarten child gets to celebrate Thanksgiving at school?

  75. #556951
    On November 25th, 2008 at 3:09 pm, Southpaw said:

    Careful all you Iceland bashers, there’s Vikings lurking around here…

    “DAMN IT” – Though this phrase is commonly used as a disparaging term, it has its origins in and around 722 AD. The Anglo-Saxon term for Viking was “Damut” (derived from Danish/Dane/Damon and Danute). When Viking longboats were sited it was a common cry of warning for the sentries to shout “Damut” at the top of their lungs.

  76. #556953
    On November 25th, 2008 at 3:10 pm, MNUSMCDavid said:

    chap…. WAH!!!

    can I visit?…. I miss have oyster dressing and lobster….. it stinks here in MN….lol

  77. #556956
    On November 25th, 2008 at 3:13 pm, Hangfire said:

    Ah, but Minnesotans have the famous Black Fly Pie.

    ja, shoor, ja betcha.

  78. #556957
    On November 25th, 2008 at 3:16 pm, frostrt said:

    On November 25th, 2008 at 3:00 pm, huggybear said:
    On November 25th, 2008 at 2:55 pm, frostrt said:

    Some of their reactions seem a bit overblown, is what we mean to say.
    Uhhh….

    On November 25th, 2008 at 2:57 pm, cheapseat said:

    millimeter by millimeter we let these agenda morons deprive us of our liberties. it was inch by inch, but we gave that up 2 decades ago. we used to be able to smoke, drink, and laugh at jokes. then we had cigarette pack warnings, then ban the ads, then ban smoking in public buildings, then ban smoking in all buildings, then ban smoking everywhere. it’s up to us to tell these dizzy busybody b****es to go home, kiss their lesbian partner hi, and tend to their business.
    …So are some of yours.

    ————————————–

    Yes, libs aren’t the only ones who get carried away. I like to think of myself as being able to avoid “Derangement Syndromes”, but conservatives are not immune.

    The example you cited was a bit over-the-top. As long as no one tries to make it ILLEGAL for me to celebrate (or not) whatever holidays I please in whatever way I please and go to church wherever I choose (or be an atheist), I’m cool. :)

  79. #556958
    On November 25th, 2008 at 3:16 pm, Dexter Alarius said:

    it was a common cry of warning for the sentries to shout “Damut” at the top of their lungs.

    Followed by the acronym for Open Seas Haranguers In Transit.

  80. #556962
    On November 25th, 2008 at 3:19 pm, Paul Revere said:

    I bet the libtards would be delighted if they were dressed up as “all the diseases” brought over here by the EVIL white man! File it under cultural awareness.

  81. #556963
    On November 25th, 2008 at 3:19 pm, tpitman said:

    Michelle Raheja can only see (or only wants to see) conflict between the Pilgrims and the Natives with whom they lived, and apparently shared not only a meal but the means to eke out a living in what was still wilderness. While there is plenty of shame to bear with the way the Indians were ultimately treated by the European settlers, to dismiss a Thanksgiving reneactment by schoolchildren as a racist act is dispicable. I saw on TV the other night that Hitler, as a soldier in WWI, had a fit when he found out that German soldiers and Allied soldiers in the trenches on the western front had an unofficial cease-fire during Christmas Eve to express Christmas greetings to one another, and even play a little soccer with one another, knowing full well that they’d have to go back to killing each other the next day. It’s a shame that the Thought Police can’t give children a moment to reenact something that expresses one of our better moments, not only as Americans, but as human beings, without the heavy hand of “political correctness” coming down.

  82. #556969
    On November 25th, 2008 at 3:23 pm, gippergirl said:

    Just wait…next up on the CA ballots: cancel Christmas and Thanksgiving…

  83. #556970
    On November 25th, 2008 at 3:24 pm, 24Klady said:

    “To be ignorant of what occurred before you were born is to remain always a child.”
    ~Marcus Cicero~
    106 B.C. – 43 B.C.

    Dedicated to truth altering professors everywhere. I’d like to pit Dr. Yeagley against Prof. Raheja in a frank discussion of what is and is not offensive to Indians.

  84. #556973
    On November 25th, 2008 at 3:26 pm, MNUSMCDavid said:

    Black Fly Pie? don’t know that one…. is it anything like Shoo Fly Pie( I love that pie….)

  85. #556975
    On November 25th, 2008 at 3:27 pm, Hanover Fiste said:

    Indians could whine about their feelings and the students dressed as Pilgrims could give them liquor and small pox infected blankets?

    That one caught me by surprise! I almost covered my screen in cola!

  86. #556979
    On November 25th, 2008 at 3:32 pm, zorro said:

    Excellent passage from the original GW, dancingwithdachshunds.

    Raheja, an English professor at UC Riverside who specializes in Native American literature, said she met with teachers and administrators in hopes that the district could hold a public forum to discuss alternatives that celebrate thankfulness without “dehumanizing” her daughter’s ancestry.

    Dehumanizing? Well that means:
    to make somebody less human by taking away his or her individuality, the creative and interesting aspects of his or her personality, or his or her compassion and sensitivity toward others.

    Dressing up like pilgrims and native Americans for a Thanksgiving celebration is not dehumanizing by any stretch of the imagination. The alleged “English Professor” should choose her words more carefully and resist gross exaggeration.

  87. #556980
    On November 25th, 2008 at 3:33 pm, Southpaw said:

    On November 25th, 2008 at 3:16 pm, Dexter Alarius said:
    it was a common cry of warning for the sentries to shout “Damut” at the top of their lungs.
    Followed by the acronym for Open Seas Haranguers In Transit.

    Good one. LOL

  88. #556981
    On November 25th, 2008 at 3:35 pm, frostrt said:

    On November 25th, 2008 at 3:07 pm, chapoutier said:
    Please, let Bjork be the first one roasted!
    Nahhh…too much work plucking all the feathers.

    —————————————

    Indeed, her fashion sense has always been . . . well . . . err . . . dinstinctive?

  89. #556982
    On November 25th, 2008 at 3:36 pm, Joy said:

    Chap – …if I hear “I Saw Mommy Kissing Santa Claus” one more time.

    I couldn’t agree more! Add Santa Baby to that list.

    See Chap – We can agree sometimes. :)

  90. #556984
    On November 25th, 2008 at 3:37 pm, On-my-soap-box said:

    Just dress all the kids up as yams and cranberries instead and be done with it.

    As an ear of corn I cry BIGOT!

    As a grape, I just let out a little wine – bigot.

  91. #556986
    On November 25th, 2008 at 3:38 pm, rowsdower said:

    On November 25th, 2008 at 2:51 pm, chapoutier said:

    uh ok mr. Scrooge :roll: those are some wonderfully inspired songs…see Handel’s Messiah, which is probably the most inspired piece of music ever written….though amazing grace is right up there…

    I don’t consider Messiah a “Christmas carol.”

    I was talking about the run of the mill “Rudolph” and “Here Comes Santa Claus.”

    And in any case I would never begrudge children their songs just because I may pierce my eardrums with an awl if I hear “I Saw Mommy Kissing Santa Claus” one more time.

    Nothing inspires the Christmas spirit in my soul as does hearing the “Barking Dogs Jingle Bells”

  92. #556988
    On November 25th, 2008 at 3:39 pm, Laree said:

    Does anyone know how old the smallpox blankets charge has been around? How long can the smallpox virus exist once being exposed to the Open Air? Has anyone ever looked into the science of a blanket being able to retain a virus for how just how long a period time? THE CDC transmitting Smallpox by “blankets” not very likely.

    http://listlva.lib.va.us/cgi-bin/wa.exe?A2=va-hist;dp45JA;20060308214949-0600

  93. #556990
    On November 25th, 2008 at 3:42 pm, cpodug said:

    I always though Minnesota was famous for Lutefisk, MNUSMCDavid.

  94. #556991
    On November 25th, 2008 at 3:44 pm, jrlingreenbay said:

    Sorry if this was mentioned already – too many posts to read in the time I have – BUT:

    “Some say having students dress up as pilgrims and Native Americans is ‘demeaning.’”

    I wonder what this woman thinks of Native American Pow Wows, where adults and children BOTH are dressed in native attire – is THAT demeaning as well?

    This woman is just another example of liberal mentality – I’LL decide what is appropriate for all of you.

  95. #556992
    On November 25th, 2008 at 3:44 pm, frostrt said:

    On November 25th, 2008 at 3:36 pm, Joy said:

    I couldn’t agree more! Add Santa Baby to that list.

    —————————————

    I actually think that one’s kinda cute, but it wouldn’t be at the top of my list. Little too much emphasis on “gimme”, if you pay attention to the words.

  96. #556993
    On November 25th, 2008 at 3:46 pm, chapoutier said:

    I actually think that one’s kinda cute, but it wouldn’t be at the top of my list. Little too much emphasis on “gimme”, if you pay attention to the words.

    People. I have declared MYSELF as the final arbiter of which Christmas songs (carols or not) are acceptable.

    Santa Baby is allowed because I think Victoria’s Secret uses it in a Christmas-themed TV ad.

    Thus I have spoketh and thus it shall be.

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