America was formed by the genocidal practices of the US Government and its residents seeking land and title
through military conquest and treaties not honored.

The teacher is delusional. Delusions of grandeur are played out by teachers everyday as they try to “make nice” over things left unresolved with sovereign Indian nations within the US borders.

Honor the treaties that are still valid US law.

Change all of us can believe in.

Bear1909 out.

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Well, that time of year is once again upon us. You know- the time of year when one can still find a few people around that are brazen and uncouth enough to use the “C” word. That’s right- there is……

On November 26th, 2008 at 10:24 pm, 29Victor said:
And the Indians didn’t have much at all to fear from the Vikings. The Vikings were looking for gold and trade routes.

The Norsemen who came to Canada/America were fishing and logging. They were not seeking gold.

I won’t be surprised if in the coming year evidence

make that “in the coming years..plural”

The land bridge theory sounds ok, except it doesn’t explain a couple of things like Kennewick man and the X mtDNA haplogroup. It seems that at least some Europeans found their way to North America long before the Vikings.

I won’t be surprised if in the coming year evidence arises of many groups coming to North America (and South) from all over the world. Colonies could start and fail and never leave any evidence or none that has been found yet.

By the way, I am in Utah where there are plenty of Indians…including 2 adopted sisters and 1 adopted brother. 8 nieces and nephews from those sibings and all, including the niece that lives with us have never had a problem being called Indian…nor do they care about being called Native Americans…..having said that, I am sitting at the computer with my niece who just told me she is none of the above. First and formost, she is an American….PERIOD!

On November 26th, 2008 at 6:05 pm, TooMuchTime said:

1st Americans, my A$$!

The first “americans” came over on the land bridge between what is now Russia and Alaska thousands of years ago. They moved in, settled down, and figured they had it pretty good.

Until, the SECOND group of “first americans” crossed the land bridge and “displaced” the current residents. Well, the didn’t displace them; they killed them, tortured them, enslaved them, but really didn’t displace them. That second group is what we now call “native americans.” But they’re not. They moved in on the first residents. (So I guess that land bridge was the first bridge to nowhere!)

The land bridge theory sounds ok, except it doesn’t explain a couple of things like Kennewick man and the X mtDNA haplogroup. It seems that at least some Europeans found their way to North America long before the Vikings.

As far as slavery is concerned, it was not introduced by the Europeans as can be seen here, and if you try really hard you may find some information on torture as practiced by Native Americans. Obviously there is less information available on the sociology of first wave immigrants, but they probably had at least a few bad habits.

I’m not trying to make excuses for anyone here. My point is simply that the human story is far more complex than “us good – them bad” or vice-versa, and our understanding of human migrations over the millennia is spotty at best. If bad behavior belongs to a specific race, then that race would be “the humans.”