… he started accusing me of being a nazi and a facist because Im against illegal immigration and Im too Patriotic.

Um…how, exactly, is it possible for someone to be “Too Patriotic”? What exactly does that even mean? And how could anyone possibly think that could be an insult? I would wear such a moniker with pride, personally.

turning Holidays into political discussions is not such a bad thing.

I think you are missing the real issue. You ahve a father who treats you in such a manner, and who calls you such horrible things, yelling and screaming and attempting to degrade you in front of others. What he called you is not so bad as the fact that he did it at all.

Be proud of your beliefs and your morals. It is apparent that he was not the one you learned them from. You cannot choose your parents…only what home they get put in.

I suspect the Obama presidency is going to revert to the same feckless approach to terrorism that defined the Clinton years.

I don’t suspect, I am confident that is what he will do. However, I think it will be far worse and even deeper indenial than the Clinton Admin. was. Add to that the simple fact that Hill-Dawg is going to be SecState and voila…you have one enormous catastrophe in the making.

I am stocking up on ammo, personally and am a bit upset that I cannot find the key to my trigger lock on my Mossburg. Call me paranoid all you want, but this election has played right into the hands of Islamic Jihad. this is the precise candidate that they wanted. They now know tey have “won” the war and are already feeling very empowered by it. Just look at what has happened in the weeks since the election. They think Bush has his hands tied and as a severly Lame Duck, will not act against the pirates, the India issue etc. Actually, so far they are correct.

Biden may be mocked for his comment about Dumbo being challenged, but he is not mistaken. he is not simply going to be challenged, he will be taken on full bore. They have not been sitting on their hands the last 7 years. They have been doing exactly what they do best…looking ahead, taking the future into account and biding their time until the Americans do something stupid like electing a leader who downplays their threat and will allow things to go back the way they were on Sept.10, 2001…but this time it will be even more so.

On November 28th, 2008 at 6:34 pm, Jean said:
Oh When I stated ‘Im Too Patriotic’ thats my fathers accusation.

Apparantly loving your country, serving in The State Defense Force and joining The Vol Fire Department is Patriotic and in essence not good.

The upside to this is that he brought you into the world…makes me wonder how long he has held these beliefs? You can’t choose your family, but you can choose how you respond. Stay strong.

Apparantly loving your country, serving in The State Defense Force and joining The Vol Fire Department is Patriotic and in essence not good.

GOOD: Went to my families home. Grandma, Uncles, Aunts, Cousins, and a Great Thanksgiving Meal .

Alot of Family Fun and Goodness.

BAD: Toward the end of Thanksgiving… my father decided to talk about politics … he started accusing me of being a nazi and a facist because Im against illegal immigration and Im too Patriotic. I dont support everyone switching to electric cars in a year or two because having 300 million cars go from gas powered to electric powered in a year is insane. With no or very few new power plants being constructed how will we deal will the massive demand of energy without oil. Heck we cant even keep electricity running in the summer because Con Ed and other Electric companies cant deal with the electrical demand of Air Conditioners.

Anyway my father turned what was a friendly discussion to a deep argument with him spewing out curses and stating Im a nazi and facist … all the while my family watching.

How do you deal with people who turn amazing Holidays to political discussions?

I want to keep the two separate. Please let me know – JeanUSARMYGUARD@yahoo.com Thanks

On November 28th, 2008 at 1:42 am, RetFireman said:
I don’t know what the big deal is about Mumbai. After all, according to the Liberals, there is no Islamic threat, and to say so simply means that you are an Islamophobe and are racial profiling.

Am I the only person who thinks the Mumbai attacks and the Somali pirates might be linked? After all, India was is the only country that has dared attack the pirates. Seems to me like a lot of the current piracy might be a money making scheme by al Queda.
I read elsewhere that the pirates who seized the Saudi oil tanker now fear for their lives because al Queda disapproves of their attacking a Muslim owned target.

I suspect the Obama presidency is going to revert to the same feckless approach to terrorism that defined the Clinton years.

Notice how when they attacked the Jews, they killed the women first.

ROPMA

At that point, what can you offer them in the way of a deterrent?

With the Soviet Union, they were just as interested in preserving their country and the lives of it’s citizenry as we were, thus it was easy to talk to them and convince them that if they were to do anything stupid, we would wipe them off the face of the earth.

However, when you use the same methods with those who believe that to die fighting us would result in the carrying out of some sick, medieval sex fantasy, that will not work.

This is the fundamental point that Liberals do not understand. You cannot talk to nor reason with fanatics who view dying for their cause a blessing from their moon god.

It’s bad enough if you’re deployed to a base overseas, or a ship at sea. You’ll probably get turkey, and maybe even an eMail from the family – hardly the same as being home by the fire.

But to be up by the Pakistan border this weekend is really tough.

Pray for all of our troops, but the forward-deployed ones in particular.

this morning, she was looking up on-line if there were any Black Friday specials on the Wii..

I’m getting a Wii
woo hoo

Please take time and also thank our President, George W. Bush. There is a reason why a Mumbai style attack did not take place till now on American Soil after 9/11. It is GWB, his team of resolute and ruthless advisers and the Patriot Act. India had a version of Patriot act called POTA (Prevention of Terrorist Activities) and they repealed it 4 years ago. Look what has happened since then. India had the largest amount of terrorist activities after Iraq and Iraq is at war.

I think the whole of our country should be thankful to Dubya and his team and not hate him like they do. I guess peace and cozy security creates complacency.
I hope and pray that Obama will realize how serious the threat of Islamic terrorism is and continue the security policies of Bush. America should support India, Israel and all the other countries that are victims of Jihadi terror. Our country should be the leader against terrorism and lead the world out of this menace.

Man, that was one long turkey nap!

Happy Thanksgiving/Black Friday all!