Anti-Prop. 8 Mob Watch: A new blacklist published

By Michelle Malkin  •  November 29, 2008 10:40 AM

Angry gay activists in Austin, Texas, have published their own blacklist to punish supporters of California’s Proposition 8. The anti-Prop. 8 mob in Texas is targeting entire businesses over private individual donations. The insane rage rages on:

Gay marriage activists who lost at the ballot box in California are now lashing out at businesses that supported the ban — and their anger reaches way beyond the borders of Golden State.

In Austin, a gay community Web site has published an “Austin Anti-Gay Blacklist” that encourages consumers not to spend money at companies that financially supported California’s recent Proposition 8 ballot initiative that rescinded gays’ right to marry inside the state.

…According to figures from the California Secretary of State’s Office — which requires campaign donors to list their place of residence, their employer and their occupations — more than 750 Texans donated tens of thousands of dollars on either side of the campaign. One of the biggest Texas donations was $50,000 to a Yes on 8 group that apparently came from the president of a Midland oil company.

About 115 Austinites gave about $180,000 — most in increments of $100 — to fund both sides of the campaign. About 20 of the Austin contributors supported the gay marriage ban; the rest opposed it. Computer giant Apple Inc. is listed as the biggest donor from Austin, with a $100,000 donation in opposition to the measure.

Some gay rights activists say any business that supported Proposition 8 should be boycotted.

“We strongly believe that one of the best ways for the gay community to be heard is by speaking with our wallets,” said Austin resident Warren Clark, whose warrenandderrick.com Web site published the “blacklist” of Yes on 8 donors.

“Blacklisted” by the gay rights Web site are Austin attorneys and tech companies, investment fund managers and doctors, real estate developers and even the Los Angeles Dodgers. Former Dodgers infielder and Austin resident Jeff Kent gave $15,000 to the Yes on 8 campaign.

“It’s a shame,” said Austin real estate developer Michael Knepp when a reporter told him he was on the list for his $10,000 donation to the Yes on 8 campaign.

“Everyone has a responsibility to support the issues they feel strongly about,” Knepp said. “If someone else was offended by that, I apologize, but we just feel very strongly about how (gay marriage) could affect our society – so we made a donation.”

He should not feel compelled to apologize.

No. 1 on the group’s anti-gay “blacklist” — errantly enough — is Dell Computer Inc. That’s because the biggest Austin-area donor to the Yes on 8 campaign was apparently Spencer Wheelright, a Dell marketing employee who gave $25,200 to support the gay marriage ban, according to records from the California Secretary of State’s office.

Dell had nothing to do with the donation and, in fact, the company has an internal rule prohibiting it from taking a position or making a donation regarding any state or local ballot initiatives, said company spokesman Bryant Hilton.

Dell usually gets good marks from gay, lesbian, bisexual and transgender groups. It is a supporter of the gay rights group Human Rights Campaign as well as other national and local gay organizations.

“This was an employee who made a personal donation and employers are listed because of California’s reporting laws,” Hilton said. “But this doesn’t reflect the company’s position at all.”

Wheelright did not return a reporter’s e-mail seeking comment. He couldn’t be reached otherwise.

After Hilton contacted warrenandderrick.com about Dell’s inclusion on the list, the site was updated to include a statement from the company. Clark later acknowledged he “may have been a little overly tough” on the company.

“We had some reservations before putting up that list because we realize those were private donors and they may not have been speaking on behalf of the company they work for,” he said.

But they did it, anyway.

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  1. #559782
    On November 30th, 2008 at 10:06 pm, right4life said:

    that would be a good one… :shock:

  2. #559797
    On November 30th, 2008 at 10:54 pm, purplepeep said:

    Mookie said:
    there’s also Bats Days where all the Goths show up en masse.

    Well, as long as the poor kids don’t get mixed up and show up at the baseball parks for “Bat Day”.

  3. #559801
    On November 30th, 2008 at 11:27 pm, vargas said:

    Clearly we’re dancing around in circles with our respective impressions of academic journals. I think that, despite the inherent biases in any treatment of controversial issues, such journals would be the most likely to present a fair view of their findings. You apparently disagree, and think that Stanley Kurtz in the National Review is somehow presenting a less biased point of view. Obviously, we’re not going to come to an accord here.
    Here is one discussion of Kurtz’s research, presenting the opposite view:
    http://www.slate.com/id/2100884/
    I have no idea how valid this woman’s data is, just as I have no idea how valid Kurtz’s data is. As I said, I’m not a scientist, nor did I ever claim to ground any of my opinions here in scientific research.
    You seem to be confusing appeals to ‘feeling’ with appeals to logic. My disbelief in the proposition that gay marriage has a deleterious effect on straight marriage is based in logical reasoning. I see no logical reason that gay marriage would undermine straight marriage. Gay marriage would not suddenly outlaw straight marriage. Since gay behavior is not illegal currently, allowing gay couples to marry wouldn’t create a mad rush by closeted gay men to get divorced from their wives so they could go be gay–they can already go be gay if they wish to without the blessing of marriage.
    So far, you’ve called me a moron, a liberal, and naive. Yet aside from these ad hominem attacks, you have not attempted in any way to justify your statement that gay marriage undermines straight marriage, except to repeatedly cite Kurtz as some form of gospel. Yet, even accepting Kurtz’s statistics as correct (statistics which seem capable of being interpreted in many different ways), you haven’t explained how this is causation and not correlation. From what I see of Kurtz, he seems to point to a general decline of morality and traditional family values, of which acceptance of gay marriage is an effect, not a cause.

  4. #559952
    On December 1st, 2008 at 10:01 am, DarthRove said:

    I didn’t donate any money, but can I get on the blacklist too? Nothing’s more entertaining than having raving loonies frothing over me spouting nonsense. Gives me the chuckles all day long.

  5. #559987
    On December 1st, 2008 at 10:40 am, battleaxe said:

    Those who believe gays should be able to marry, adopt children, brain-wash the public schools that homosexuality is a race, and that whips and chains are proper parade attire should boycott the companies on the blacklist. The rest of America (91%+) should be perfectly willing, even eager to purchase from these companies.

    I can see how effective such a boycott will be.

  6. #560006
    On December 1st, 2008 at 11:02 am, right4life said:

    Here is one discussion of Kurtz’s research, presenting the opposite view:
    http://www.slate.com/id/2100884/
    I have no idea how valid this woman’s data is, just as I have no idea how valid Kurtz’s data is. As I said, I’m not a scientist, nor did I ever claim to ground any of my opinions here in scientific research.

    did you even read the original quote I posted from Kurtz? it mentions this woman, and her data. if this research is not scientific, then what is it? voodoo? :roll:

    You seem to be confusing appeals to ‘feeling’ with appeals to logic. My disbelief in the proposition that gay marriage has a deleterious effect on straight marriage is based in logical reasoning. I see no logical reason that gay marriage would undermine straight marriage.

    so you think this, but you have no real idea whether this is true or not. have you ever thought that perhaps by making marriage meaningless, as gay marriage does, then marriage would decline? did you notice what happened to marriage when the government plays father, and started the welfare system? if marriage means whatever anyone wants it to mean, then it is meaningless, and why bother with it?

    So far, you’ve called me a moron, a liberal, and naive.

    very true…you know if the shoe fits…

    you have not attempted in any way to justify your statement that gay marriage undermines straight marriage, except to repeatedly cite Kurtz as some form of gospel

    obviously to you nothing I, or anyone else would say, would make the slightest difference, you are a legend in your own mind…and will not allow facts to interfere with your ideology!

    Yet, even accepting Kurtz’s statistics as correct (statistics which seem capable of being interpreted in many different ways), you haven’t explained how this is causation and not correlation.

    just did, see above, although I am not nearly as eloquent as Kurtz, and if you don’t believe his research, why would you believe anything that disagrees with your ideology?

  7. #560065
    On December 1st, 2008 at 11:49 am, vargas said:

    I think we agree that if marriage is made meaningless, then marriage will decline. It looks like we differ as to where gay marriage fits into this. You seem to think gay marriage is causing marriage to become meaningless. On the other hand, I think that marriage has been growing increasingly meaningless apart from gay marriage. The large number of out-of-wedlock children, divorces, and couples cohabitating without marrying would seem to point to a general decline in society placing a value on marriage as an institution. I don’t see how gay marriage, an institution which doesn’t exist in 98% of the states, could possibly be the cause of this. Rather, I think gay marriage is an outgrowth of this decline of the traditional importance of marriage.
    If you really want to prevent the decline of marriage as an institution, then work to penalize divorce, penalize out-of-wedlock birth, and penalize couples for living together without marrying.

  8. #560089
    On December 1st, 2008 at 12:06 pm, right4life said:

    I don’t see how gay marriage, an institution which doesn’t exist in 98% of the states, could possibly be the cause of this

    because of Kurtz’ research in the netherlands…which you do not believe…even though he quotes dutch researchers…sigh…

  9. #560117
    On December 1st, 2008 at 12:42 pm, gunslingerpatriot said:

    My heartfelt thank you to the gaynazis for publishing such a wonderful list, you saved me lots of work in seeing who supports traditional family values.

    For everybusiness that you list, I will check with the manager, and if its true then I will support them with my MONEY and future business.

    Likewise, any business that advertises in the gay yellow pages, I will boycott and its already cost me from eating at my favorite pizza restruant in Memphis. Its a sacrifice that I am willing to vote with my wallet.

    So gays, keep up the good work and see how much more you can offend people from coming to your point of view. The next stop is to start getting law enforcement, DA’s and the courts to start equally applying the hate crimes laws against you.

    GSP 8)
    “This is Sparta!”

  10. #560156
    On December 1st, 2008 at 1:21 pm, DarthRove said:

    If you really want to prevent the decline of marriage as an institution, then work to penalize divorce, penalize out-of-wedlock birth, and penalize couples for living together without marrying.

    But those actions are hateful, racist, intolerant, old-fashioned, and equivalent to forcing morality onto people. Or so the left has told us for the past 40 years or so. You reaaaaaally want people to advocate these actions, or are you just looking for another goat to scape?

  11. #560158
    On December 1st, 2008 at 1:22 pm, John Deaux said:

    On November 30th, 2008 at 5:26 pm, vargas said:
    right4life:
    I hope you’re joking about peer-reviewed journals. If not, then there’s really no point in discussing science with you.

    Global warming removed any integrity that peer-reviewed journals once enjoyed.

    AzN crossed the line and was called on it. It’s definitely not ban-worthy.

    Personally, I enjoy AzN’s perspective on a wide range of topics, just as I enjoyed Blind Mule’s. If we keep allowing trolls to be offended and get commenters banned, there will be nobody left but the trolls, and that’s exactly what they want.

  12. #560163
    On December 1st, 2008 at 1:31 pm, vargas said:

    Two quick things:
    DarthRove–I don’t want people to advocate those things. I also don’t think gay marriage should be banned. My point is that anyone who cites ‘protection of marriage’ as a justification for banning gay marriage should also work to legislate morality in those other ways.

    Second, as an aside, I’m with John Deaux–AzN’s comment was over the line, but he should not be banned for it. I enjoy reading this blog particularly because commentators will disagree with each other, and call each other out when need be.

  13. #560178
    On December 1st, 2008 at 1:50 pm, DarthRove said:

    I figured that. My point was that such actions were done in the past to “legislate morality”, but such social sanctions for bad behavior vanished into the politically correct landscape.

    When shame is removed, why be surprised if people behave shamefully?

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