A Georgia reader holds his nose and votes; Update: Chambliss wins

By Michelle Malkin  •  December 2, 2008 04:44 PM

It’s runoff day in Georgia. The lines at the polls have been short, which is probably good news for GOP incumbent Sen. Saxby Chambliss.

The bad news is that a lot of conservatives aren’t happy about the pro-bailout, pro-amnesty Republican, but feel they have to hold their nose and vote for him.

Ugh. I thought those days were over.

Reader Ryan e-mails about his voting experience this morning:

I just wanted to let you know that I just got back from voting here in Ga. Both the Atlanta Journal and the local poll workers are saying its been a light turnout today in the runoff election between RINO King Saxby Chambliss and Squirrel Head Jim Martin.

As much as I hated to vote for the RINO King, I had to cast ballot for him, if for nothing else to keep our Noble Chairman MaoBama from getting his Super-Majority…

Ryan, in Ga.

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Update: Chambliss wins the runoff. Now, conservatives must hold his feet to the fire.

One more thing: Guess the ‘Cuda Effect trumped the Luda Effect.

One other thing: Stacy McCain defends Saxby’s immigration record. Points taken, but the takeaway from his shamnesty dalliance is that the guy went wobbly went it mattered most — and it took massive resistance and vigilance to set him straight.

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  1. #561419
    On December 2nd, 2008 at 4:50 pm, Paul Revere said:

    I’d rather them have the majority. It would be fascinating to watch them and the media blame…someone else.

  2. #561422
    On December 2nd, 2008 at 4:53 pm, hatfield said:

    I’m from Gwinnett County Goergia. I had the samel problem. Everytime I have written Chambliss regarding his total failure as a conservative I get back some form crap letter. Our other Senator, Isssakson, is no better. Rino’s both of them. Hopefully we can get some new blood when Issakson is up next.

  3. #561423
    On December 2nd, 2008 at 4:53 pm, Socky said:

    The supermajority is irrelevant. Are John “Landslide” McCain, Susan Collins, Arlen Specter, and Olympia Snowe going to join filibusters against Amnesty, Bans on Offshore drilling, Global Warming Regulations, or to save conservative speech from the Censorship Doctrine?

  4. #561426
    On December 2nd, 2008 at 4:54 pm, Socky said:

    Or Pansey Graham?

  5. #561427
    On December 2nd, 2008 at 4:55 pm, sonofdy said:

    Counting the rinos, they already have a super majority. We can’t even block judges.

  6. #561429
    On December 2nd, 2008 at 4:56 pm, hatfield said:

    Socky said:

    Good point. McCain might as well move across the aisle, along with the rest of them.

  7. #561431
    On December 2nd, 2008 at 4:57 pm, dadinseattle said:

    I believe he was also among the Gang of Ten that countered Drill Baby Drill!

    So being reduced to have to vote for this choice illustrates our dire straits, but as an Obama Detractor I say we need some way to stop him!

  8. #561432
    On December 2nd, 2008 at 4:58 pm, Wellsy said:

    It would be fascinating to watch them and the media blame…someone else.

    Sorry, but Democrats could hold 99 out of 100 Senate seats, and 95% of the House, with a Democratic House and a packed Supreme Court, and the ills of the country would still be blamed on all the “angry and ignorant voices on the right.”

    Saxby sucks, but a supermajority sucks even more.

  9. #561435
    On December 2nd, 2008 at 5:00 pm, ITookTheRedPill said:

    As much as I hated to vote for the RINO King, I had to cast ballot for him, if for nothing else to keep our Noble Chairman MaoBama from getting his Super-Majority…

    On December 2nd, 2008 at 4:50 pm, Paul Revere said:

    I’d rather them have the majority. It would be fascinating to watch them and the media blame…someone else.

    If Saxby Chambliss ends up enabling a Super-Majority anyway, by voting with the Democrats for cloture on filibusters, then the MSM will call the cloture vote “bi-partisan”.

    Chambliss pulled in several big name Republicans including SarahCuda and Mike Huckabee to campaign for him. He better kiss off his RINO ways or he will be a complete traitor to the party.

    If the Democrats are going to have a Super-Majority, let it be 100% partisan. No more RINOs!

  10. #561438
    On December 2nd, 2008 at 5:03 pm, RedDog said:

    The RINOs will remain in charge of the Republican party for the forseeable future. The key is taking back control of the public schools. The leftists have been subverting all our public institutions for the last 60 years. They have to be taken back piece by piece or we’re just spitting into the wind. Good citizens have to be shaped from childhood.

  11. #561440
    On December 2nd, 2008 at 5:06 pm, Socky said:

    But haven’t you heard, Red Dog? The solution is to abolish local control of schools.

  12. #561444
    On December 2nd, 2008 at 5:13 pm, CantCureStupid said:

    As God is my witness, this is the last election cycle where I pull the lever for a loser because he/she is not as big a loser as the other guy. I’m done.

    Give me conservatism!!! No more RINOs!!

  13. #561453
    On December 2nd, 2008 at 5:23 pm, Red State Skeptic said:

    If only Republicans ran nothing but Tom Tancredo clones, then they would have the supermajority.

  14. #561455
    On December 2nd, 2008 at 5:24 pm, jsr said:

    I’m expecting that he is going to pull this out. Chambliss may not be right on all issues but for me there was no question of what I had to do. His opponent Jim Martin is a far left nutcase. If his policies don’t seem dangerous enough to scare normal people into voting against him there was a great picture of him on Drudge surrounded by thugish rappers at a rally yesterday. I could not stand by and let that liberal tool/fool be my senator for 6 years without voting against him, regardless of who controls the senate.

  15. #561465
    On December 2nd, 2008 at 5:33 pm, ITookTheRedPill said:

    Jim Martin is a far left nutcase. If his policies don’t seem dangerous enough to scare normal people into voting against him there was a great picture of him on Drudge surrounded by thugish rappers at a rally yesterday.

    I saw that, too.
    That picture was, shall we say, Ludicrous.

  16. #561472
    On December 2nd, 2008 at 5:35 pm, 30 pcs of silver said:

    On December 2nd, 2008 at 5:13 pm, CantCureStupid said:
    As God is my witness, this is the last election cycle where I pull the lever for a loser because he/she is not as big a loser as the other guy. I’m done.

    Give me conservatism!!! No more RINOs!!

    You can put me down for one too.

  17. #561476
    On December 2nd, 2008 at 5:38 pm, Jet Jaguar said:

    Well, now we know that Harry Reid has to hold his nose to vote w/us commoners down at the precinct.

  18. #561486
    On December 2nd, 2008 at 5:46 pm, Just A Grunt said:

    Everybody hoping Saxby changes his ways are just whistling past the graveyard. He just wants to make it past today and then he counts on the American voters short attention span so that 6 years from now when he is up for reelection it will all be washed aside once again.
    How pathetic is it when your only redeeming reason for voting for him is it will deny the Democrats a super majority. With all of the RINO’s already in the Senate it is safe to say they have that already. You don’t need a D behind your name to act like them.
    I sat this one out. The first in my voting eligible lifetime that I have sat out.
    If the Republicans want change when does it begin?

  19. #561493
    On December 2nd, 2008 at 5:49 pm, DagneyT said:

    A light turnout does not make me feel good! With all the money BO has going into this effort, it’s disappointing and scary. A filibuster proof congress scares the living crap out of me!

  20. #561499
    On December 2nd, 2008 at 5:56 pm, ajmontana said:

    If the Dems get the magic (60) number Harry the weasel and madam pelgrossi will be running around D.C. like a meyth addict on steriods. :shock:

  21. #561512
    On December 2nd, 2008 at 6:02 pm, rambler said:

    Madam Pelosi is already running around as if she were the President elect. Look out Obama, Nancy may be your Tip O’Neill.

  22. #561513
    On December 2nd, 2008 at 6:03 pm, irving said:

    The “Hold your nose and vote Republican” problem is probably the biggest reason why McCain lost the election.

    Lots of us are tired of being told to vote for people we don’t believe in because the other side is so awful.

    Look at the economy and the border fence to see where it’s gotten us.

  23. #561527
    On December 2nd, 2008 at 6:19 pm, Texhoma said:

    Ugh. I thought those days were over.

    At least with Palin on the ticket we only had to hold one nostril closed.

  24. #561529
    On December 2nd, 2008 at 6:23 pm, wrcnossen said:

    30 pcs, I’m with you. I’ve been watching the commercials for both of these looser scumbags, and neither one gave me any reason to vote FOR them. It was always “the other guy is an even bigger crook than me”. If I could have, I’d have voted “None of the above”. But since that wasn’t an option, I stayed home.

    I will never again vote for anyone for no other reason than he might not be as bad as the other guy. Voting like that has given us the leftward slide to wimpiness, cowardlyness, and stupidity.

  25. #561531
    On December 2nd, 2008 at 6:26 pm, MacEamonn said:

    It’s pretty bad that the most conservative Senator Georgia had in about the past 10+ years was a Democrat named Zell Miller! :(

  26. #561532
    On December 2nd, 2008 at 6:26 pm, zorro said:

    You know, the RINO lead GOP is just sickening. Maybe it would be better if the godless democraps had 60 seats in the Senate. Let them go wild for 2 years and hope (and Pray) that Conservatives will answer the call and run for those offices. Personally, I’m praying that Pat Toomey will challenge Specter again in the primary and win this time.

  27. #561533
    On December 2nd, 2008 at 6:30 pm, Dandapani said:

    RINOs should become extinct at all costs.

  28. #561546
    On December 2nd, 2008 at 6:54 pm, love2rumba said:

    Chambliss’s only good point is his pro-gun record..after that he looks and acts like “Boss Hog” from the “Dukes of Hazard”

  29. #561553
    On December 2nd, 2008 at 6:58 pm, Bill Grant said:

    Ugh. I thought those days were over.

    Gee, Michelle Malkin sees another opportunity to help elect democrats. Seems like you wont be happy until there isn’t any Republican Party at all.

  30. #561554
    On December 2nd, 2008 at 7:00 pm, love2rumba said:

    If putting a RINO like him back in really doesn’t change anything…the fool say won’t back a filibuster, then you might as well let the democrat win..then there will be support out of necessity for pure conservatives only.

    If history is any guide, I believe the days of putting in RINOs is getting to the point of saturation in terms of value you get back from doing so as more people are slowly becoming hesitant to back them, sort of like when marginal cost > marginal revenue, you don’t perform the business any longer as in economics.

  31. #561558
    On December 2nd, 2008 at 7:02 pm, happyscrapper said:

    On December 2nd, 2008 at 5:03 pm, RedDog said:
    The RINOs will remain in charge of the Republican party for the forseeable future. The key is taking back control of the public schools. The leftists have been subverting all our public institutions for the last 60 years. They have to be taken back piece by piece or we’re just spitting into the wind. Good citizens have to be shaped from childhood.

    RedDog…Absolutely 100% right on the money! The public schools have our children for at least 6 hours every day to brainwash them. Many parents don’t do a thing to counteract that brainwashing, and then we wonder what has happened to our children! The only way we will be able to take back our country is to take back the education systems…both K-12 and the Universities. Even if we can just reform the lower grades and actually teach the kids the basics, including an ACCURATE history, plus MAKING them follow the rules or suffer very stiff penalties, perhaps by college age, they will be ready to withstand the liberal colleges. Or better yet, shun the liberal colleges and find the ones that are more balanced. There are still some out there. We need to fight back against all the BS that has been allowed to permeate in the schools…like NO GOD, no religious holiday celebrations, no discipline, no competetion, no pride in honesty, ad nauseum. Our schools are a MESS and it is our fault for allowing the travesty that is PC. Until we clean up the schools, nothing else we try to do will matter.

  32. #561562
    On December 2nd, 2008 at 7:07 pm, love2rumba said:

    Until conservatives put in and BACK conservatives against incumbent RINOs (like Toomey vs Arlen Spector) and get their heads out of this myopic “we gotta go with RINO because he can win” nonsense, there will be no rational alternative but to back a (whiny) Saxby Chambliss (where did he get a name that goofy anyhow?) in a given election.

  33. #561588
    On December 2nd, 2008 at 8:00 pm, MtsEdge said:

    there will be no rational alternative but to back a (whiny) Saxby Chambliss

    The thing is, do we really WANT someone like that to be re-elected?? What good would he do for conservatism? He gets elected, goes back to his RINO ways, and true conservatives continue to fume and fuss. I’m for excising the cancerous RINOS NOW. Having another RINO in the Senate isn’t going to help the conservative cause. Who says he will stand up for what is right?

    /rant off

  34. #561589
    On December 2nd, 2008 at 8:04 pm, Jet Jaguar said:

    On December 2nd, 2008 at 6:58 pm, Bill Grant said:

    Ugh. I thought those days were over.

    Gee, Michelle Malkin sees another opportunity to help elect democrats. Seems like you wont be happy until there isn’t any Republican Party at all.

    Works for me. May as well elect Democrats since the Republican Party is working hard to be just like them. Every day it’s harder to tell the difference.

  35. #561596
    On December 2nd, 2008 at 8:21 pm, Rogue Cheddar said:

    You should vote your heart and your conscience, f the party line BS! All it ever gets you is bipartisan claptrap! I will never ever vote the lesser of two evils ever again!

  36. #561597
    On December 2nd, 2008 at 8:25 pm, MarcoPolo said:

    CantCureStupid said:

    As God is my witness, this is the last election cycle where I pull the lever for a loser because he/she is not as big a loser as the other guy. I’m done.

    Give me conservatism!!! No more RINOs!!

    I went there this year, and I pulled the lever for the guy I thought would make the best president, which is as it should be.

    No regrets except that I wasn’t able to convince more people to do it. It would have been nice to see a third party qualify for matching funds in the future.

  37. #561600
    On December 2nd, 2008 at 8:36 pm, Brian72 said:

    From now on I’m just going to follow Sarah around and do whatever she tells me to. Thinking is so hard! Just go with your heart.

    I’m only half-kidding :)

  38. #561603
    On December 2nd, 2008 at 8:47 pm, EvilBob333 said:

    The “Hold your nose and vote for me cause I ain’t as bad as the other guy” strategy is wearing thin for Republicans. I am starting to wonder if they just prefer being in the minority.

  39. #561604
    On December 2nd, 2008 at 8:50 pm, ChicagoRobb said:

    This is one of things that infuriates me about my fellow conservatives. We want 100% idealogical purity and if we do not get, then forget you. The way the Democrats (and the Left for the most part) got back into power was incrementalism. 50% of what you want is better than 100% of what you don’t. We need to start fighting under the rules of Marquis de Sade, rather than Marquis de Queensbury if we are even to get back to power.
    Also on the issue of cloture, some of the new Democratic senators are not your run-of-the-mill lefties. What happens in the senate may sbe suprising.

  40. #561605
    On December 2nd, 2008 at 8:56 pm, MtsEdge said:

    We want 100% idealogical purity and if we do not get, then forget you.

    Just following the basic principles of conservatism, you know, smaller, less intrusive government, self-reliance, lower taxes, those sorts of things would make me very happy.

    Voting for the LOTE still gets you the “E” and will NOT turn back the creep of socialism into the Republican party.

  41. #561608
    On December 2nd, 2008 at 8:58 pm, ironman said:

    Being a Georgian myself,I concur with having to hold the nose and cast the vote….but I liken it more to what had you rather eat…pig $hite or dog $hite?

  42. #561613
    On December 2nd, 2008 at 9:06 pm, 30 pcs of silver said:

    On December 2nd, 2008 at 6:23 pm, wrcnossen said:
    30 pcs, I’m with you.

    Then I am in good company. ;-)

  43. #561614
    On December 2nd, 2008 at 9:07 pm, 30 pcs of silver said:

    Hey it looks like Chambliss keeps his seat:

    Georgia Sen. Saxby Chambliss has won re-election in a runoff, dashing Democratic hopes of capturing enough Senate seats to thwart Republican filibusters. Chambliss, who fell just short of the majority vote needed to win re-election in November, prevailed in a one-on-one rematch with Democrat Jim Martin.

  44. #561616
    On December 2nd, 2008 at 9:11 pm, bjc said:

    After 01/20/2009, communicated praise needs to go to those conservative Republicans in congress that voted twice against the bailout; And at the same time, communicated scorn needs to go to the RNC regarding those still left in congress that didn’t; The pathway to conservative governance is still through the Republican Party, but they will never get there with RINOS’ taking on the current challenges; That is like fighting cancer with cancer.

  45. #561618
    On December 2nd, 2008 at 9:15 pm, MtsEdge said:

    communicated praise needs to go to those conservative Republicans in congress that voted twice against the bailout

    bjc, good point. I contacted my House Rep. several times before, during, and after the votes to communicate my concerns and then to express thanks for his conservative stance. He voted against the bailout twice, despite some apparently vocal constituents who screamed at him after the 1st “no” vote. Stuck to his guns, and was re-elected.

  46. #561620
    On December 2nd, 2008 at 9:24 pm, rightisright said:

    not sure what all the concern is about stopping a filibuster proof senate, do not forget the dems have Lacey Gramnasty and Juan McAmnesty most the time as is…you know the Maverick and his lil sister.

  47. #561623
    On December 2nd, 2008 at 9:31 pm, love2rumba said:

    Who says he will stand up for what is right?

    That is the question, isn’t it? MTsEdge. In washington state we had a Senator Gorton who was a lot like Chambliss..ran conservative, voted conservative for a while, went liberal except with gun rights, and then went back to being just barely right of center at the end of his Senate career…

    Otherwise your “rant”, as you put it, is more than justified.

    Chambliss HAD a comfortable lead over Martin until he went with the dems on not drilling for oil and when he mindlessly backed
    Bush on the 750 billion bailout…I would hope he would have gotten the message that straying from conservative principles will get you creamed in an election-and he da#n near did.

    If his “ordeal” doesn’t wake him up, then putting him back in was a waste of time…with respect to Arlen Spector and John McCain… putting them back in is not only a waste of time, but political suicide for us…however we NEED to have candidates with good conservative principles to run against them in 2010 in the primaries to start turning things around.

    In the case of Saxby Chambliss this was not possible-or was it?

    Perhaps someone from Georgia can enlighten me.

    I do believe that Chambliss is definitely benefiting from Obama voter “buyer’s remorse” (or is it stark terror now?)more than anything.

  48. #561625
    On December 2nd, 2008 at 9:38 pm, MtsEdge said:

    however we NEED to have candidates with good conservative principles to run against them in 2010 in the primaries to start turning things around

    I’m with you on this…the question is how? The disagreement within the conservative movement and among Repubs is creating such agony. But this agony is necessary IMHO in order to bite the bullet and get the RINOS out. If they keep getting re-elected, they will never learn, and the next election we’ll be offered a crop of more socialist-lite Rs. The short term agony of defeat to a dem is what I have advocated. Who knows, the dem may be more conservative than the R…

    I do believe that Chambliss is definitely benefiting from Obama voter “buyer’s remorse” (or is it stark terror now?)more than anything.

    Hope he doesn’t let down the good people of GA and all of us (again).

  49. #561626
    On December 2nd, 2008 at 9:40 pm, Jet Jaguar said:

    On December 2nd, 2008 at 8:50 pm, ChicagoRobb said:

    This is one of things that infuriates me about my fellow conservatives. We want 100% idealogical purity and if we do not get, then forget you.

    I was hoping for at least 20% but it’s down in the single digits.

  50. #561627
    On December 2nd, 2008 at 9:42 pm, Jet Jaguar said:

    On December 2nd, 2008 at 9:11 pm, bjc said:

    ….The pathway to conservative governance is still through the Republican Party…..

    HAHAHA!!! That’s a good one! :)

  51. #561630
    On December 2nd, 2008 at 9:46 pm, txvet2 said:

    Looks like Chambliss in a runaway.

    And it looks like Jeb Bush may run for the Senate in Fla. At least he’s more conservative than GW or Mel.

  52. #561632
    On December 2nd, 2008 at 9:48 pm, MtsEdge said:

    Looks like Chambliss in a runaway.

    So ‘Cuda trumped Luda this time. Woo-hoo!

  53. #561634
    On December 2nd, 2008 at 9:51 pm, bjc said:

    Forget the thought of a filibuster firewall; When issues such as amnesty for illegal aliens, cap and trade nonsense, endless bailouts, etc., etc., the Democrats have more than enough pet RINO bum boys like Graham, McCain, Spector, Corker, et al, to see things through their way; Continued pressure needs to be applied to the RNC as it relates to 2010 and 2012 and what direction they will take; A good place to start is http://www.RepublicanForAReason.com, where they welcome our thoughts on direction.

  54. #561635
    On December 2nd, 2008 at 9:55 pm, love2rumba said:

    MtsEdge

    Here are my additional thoughts on your most recent post #48:

    WE need to select those RINOs currently serving who have clearly done the most damage to conservatism when push has come to shove..I can think two CLEAR targets that we would have the greatest raw political ability to affect: John McCain and Arlen Spector- both seats are up for grabs in 2010-conservatives would enjoy not only satisfaction of knocking them out (with better conservative candidates running against them in the primary), but also provide a deterrent effect against other Saxby Chamblisses (or is it “Chambli”-latin male plural) that lurk and will still lurk in Washington DC. Knocking these two out in the way I describe would send a powerful message within the Republican party. We can start there and work our way back over the future years to acquire what we want: conservative candidates in congress and CONTROL of our presidential selection process away from open=primaried BLUE States
    (knock on wood).

    /thoughts

  55. #561639
    On December 2nd, 2008 at 9:58 pm, love2rumba said:

    Cahmbliss really killed Martin unlike 1 month ago..as Mr. Spock would say:

    “fascinating..”

    I’d love to see the statistical post-mortem on these results I’m seeing tonight-this victory is really lopsided.

  56. #561641
    On December 2nd, 2008 at 10:02 pm, MtsEdge said:

    I can think two CLEAR targets that we would have the greatest raw political ability to affect: John McCain and Arlen Spector- both seats are up for grabs in 2010-conservatives would enjoy not only satisfaction of knocking them out (with better conservative candidates running against them in the primary),

    Yes, that sounds like a good start. That’s how Sarah became gov. of AK. She had the moxie to take on her own party. We need more Repubs who are willing to do the same. For some reason, Repubs have been notoriously skittish or timid about challenging an incumbent R, there’s this “pecking order” thing that seems to play out…who’s “turn” is it to run for a given seat. Enough of that already. I have financially supported conservative R (unfortunately, this is no longer redundant) candidates from other states, and would continue to do so.

  57. #561643
    On December 2nd, 2008 at 10:04 pm, JDinTX said:

    wrcnossen said: It was always “the other guy is an even bigger crook than me”. If I could have, I’d have voted “None of the above”.

    I agree with you and if we could do that, the “None of the Above” would be the winner in most cases. I wish I had that option with Kay Bailey Hutchison.

  58. #561644
    On December 2nd, 2008 at 10:08 pm, JDinTX said:

    I also see where Jeb Bush is thinking of running for Senator in Florida. He won’t be any better than Martinez. He will be trying to get amnesty pushed through.

  59. #561645
    On December 2nd, 2008 at 10:13 pm, txvet2 said:

    On December 2nd, 2008 at 9:58 pm, love2rumba said:

    I don’t think it’s any big mystery. Obama got Martin close with straight ticket voters, plus there was a third party candidate in the race. Obama’s cult of personality doesn’t have coattails, would be my conclusion.

  60. #561647
    On December 2nd, 2008 at 10:15 pm, txvet2 said:

    On December 2nd, 2008 at 10:04 pm, JDinTX said:

    Yeah, she’s starting to move toward the center more and more for her gubernatorial run, but she’s still more conservative than Perry.

  61. #561651
    On December 2nd, 2008 at 10:23 pm, jsr said:

    I just checked out the Huffpo comments on the Chambliss victory. They are venting their rage against Georgia Republican voters (like me) in the most vile, filthy manner. Glad to see most of them will never be coming here! Oh, and one of their dreaded threats is keeping Georgia out of the federal bailout to the states. Now that strikes fear in a conservatives heart. (Georgia has a balanced budget, unlike some very notorious blue states.)

  62. #561656
    On December 2nd, 2008 at 10:34 pm, Micheleeroo said:

    Thank goodness the dems won’t have a 60-seat majority. Breathe somewhat easier, America. And thank you, Georgia! You are a good state.

  63. #561658
    On December 2nd, 2008 at 10:37 pm, ajmontana said:

    Update: Chambliss wins

    Whew.

  64. #561662
    On December 2nd, 2008 at 10:42 pm, Flyoverman said:

    On December 2nd, 2008 at 10:23 pm, jsr said:
    I just checked out the Huffpo comments on the Chambliss victory. They are venting their rage against Georgia Republican voters (like me) in the most vile, filthy manner.

    How adult of them.. Perhaps a hug and cookie will help.

  65. #561676
    On December 2nd, 2008 at 10:59 pm, dadinseattle said:

    Having a few RINO’s around to team with a few blue dog Democrats to form “their gangs ” may work in our favor to slow down Reid and Pelosi from driving us directly over the cliff.

    So maybe they will point their little rhino horns in the right direction for a change.

  66. #561702
    On December 2nd, 2008 at 11:31 pm, CleanGuy said:

    Squirrel Head Jim Martin

    I thought he looked like a pidgeon… Fugly man and as slimey as they come…

  67. #561720
    On December 3rd, 2008 at 12:19 am, riggword said:

    Personally,

    I am somewhat relieved.
    If we couldn’t at least hold onto 41 seats then what are we worth?

    I am just wondering when the recount will start.

  68. #561726
    On December 3rd, 2008 at 12:42 am, danigon said:

    GO SARAH WIN ONE FOR THE GIPPER.. the Georgia Senator may not be strong willed in the conservative camp as we like but he is keeping the socialist from taking over… Personally I think a lot of the real conservatives have not been that strong- maybe this is the wake up call they really need…I think this is a bigger win for true conservatives- for Palin too- I am sure the whinny scared middle of the road republicans were scared of what she stands for and what she said…but most of us are not- looking forward to 2010, 2012!!!!!

  69. #561732
    On December 3rd, 2008 at 1:01 am, brad_sk said:

    On December 2nd, 2008 at 10:59 pm, dadinseattle said: at 65
    Having a few RINO’s around to team with a few blue dog Democrats to form “their gangs ” may work in our favor to slow down Reid and Pelosi from driving us directly over the cliff.

    You really are very desperate….praising RINOs….wow

  70. #561738
    On December 3rd, 2008 at 1:25 am, love2rumba said:

    txvet2 said:

    I don’t think it’s any big mystery. Obama got Martin close with straight ticket voters, plus there was a third party candidate in the race. Obama’s cult of personality doesn’t have coattails, would be my conclusion.

    I agree…but I am still in awe about the size of the victory-one would think that the Obamatrons and such would have been salivating for a filibuster-proof majority in the US SEnate-I mean why not?…

    In any event analyzing what went on could yield useful information for our side-especially since our backs are still against the wall legislatively-and we will have to contend with Obama again in 2012.

  71. #561851
    On December 3rd, 2008 at 9:35 am, Socky said:

    John McCain and Arlen Spector- both seats are up for grabs in 2010-conservatives would enjoy not only satisfaction of knocking them out (with better conservative candidates running against them in the primary),

    Pat Toomey and John Shadegg would be excellent trade-ups for both of those seats. And when, not if, Dear Leader disappoints, the Dems may have trouble taking those seats.

  72. #561878
    On December 3rd, 2008 at 10:01 am, ddhinnyc said:

    Hmmmmm…..I wonder why turnout was so low in a state so populated by African Americans.

    Could it be because no African Americans were on the ballot?

    Sounds like a bunch of black people in this country voted for President based on skin color.

    But no, that’s not racist at all, right?

  73. #561895
    On December 3rd, 2008 at 10:17 am, CleanGuy said:

    There were several black people in the democrat primary and none of them won. The most prominent of the bunch, Dekalb county chair Vernon Jones, played the race card and lost. Maybe us Georgians are smarter than that…

    Gerogia went for McCain handily.

  74. #562093
    On December 3rd, 2008 at 12:35 pm, JHSII said:

    Bill Grant #29

    Gee, Michelle Malkin sees another opportunity to help elect democrats. Seems like you wont be happy until there isn’t any Republican Party at all.

    And here’s Bill Grant again attacking real Conservatives in an effort to show which side he’s really on.

    Way to go, Bill!!

  75. #562429
    On December 3rd, 2008 at 7:45 pm, Bill Grant said:

    And here’s Bill Grant again attacking real Conservatives in an effort to show which side he’s really on.

    Nope, just waiting for the pro-Al Frankin thread because Norm Coleman is a “RINO”… RINO’s, RINO’s everywhere… Turning on each other is so smart and such an election winner… Look what it has helped bring!

    Poor JHSII, I guess you need someone to do your thinking for you. Too bad you do all your own taking.

  76. #562461
    On December 3rd, 2008 at 9:33 pm, JHSII said:

    And then Bill Grant proves me right again – and he follows that by projecting!!

    Sorry Bill, but you don’t even make a good liberal plant.

  77. #562594
    On December 4th, 2008 at 8:26 am, Bill Grant said:

    And then Bill Grant proves me right again – and he follows that by projecting!!

    Proves you right? That would mean that you had a point. You are quite simply the biggest moron on these boards, if not on the internet. Indeed, you are probably a chimpanzee typing with it’s tail.

    Sorry Bill,

    Too late for apologies you idiot.

    but you don’t even make a good liberal plant.

    You are a sycophantic little follower who glommed on to other peoples opinions throughout the campaign, whining and crying all the way that everything wasn’t perfect and everything wasn’t being done for you. You aren’t a “conservative”; you are a parasite.

    Now, be sure to follow this up with some non-sequitur effluence about how I have proved your non existent point… Make sure that it is cut and paste-able so that you can post it over and over like the brainless parrot that you are. That will prove MY point; that you are an idiot.

  78. #562597
    On December 4th, 2008 at 8:33 am, Bill Grant said:

    Calling you a chimp was a disservice to primates JHSII, and since chimp’s don’t have tails you must be a parrot typing with it’s beak.

  79. #562600
    On December 4th, 2008 at 8:37 am, JHSII said:

    More attacks from Bill Grant. He says that he’s a Conservative – and then he expends all of his efforts at attacking Conservatives.

    I ask again the question Bill never could answer – How do you expect support from Conservatives for whatever it is that you want support for when you constantly, continually, and viscerally attack those very Conservatives that you say you want support from?
    Or, the shorter version of the question – How do you engender support from Conservatives by attacking them?

    So, go ahead Bill, project away. Continue to be the liar and troll that we’ve all come to know and not care about.
    When you’re willing to discuss anything in a mature, intelligent manner then we can actually have a conversation.

  80. #562614
    On December 4th, 2008 at 9:14 am, MtsEdge said:

    Nope, just waiting for the pro-Al Frankin thread because Norm Coleman is a “RINO”… RINO’s, RINO’s everywhere… Turning on each other is so smart and such an election winner…

    Here’s where you go wrong…conservatives are not “turning on each other”, they’re trying to weed out the socialists from the R party! If people like you had their way, we’d have only one political party in this country, Socialist/Communist.

    While you enjoy attacking “purists”, those of us who have a backbone are fighting to eliminate the posers. Please get out of the way and stop attacking those of us who truly care about CONSERVATISM.

  81. #562962
    On December 4th, 2008 at 12:57 pm, Bill Grant said:

    More attacks from Bill Grant. He says that he’s a Conservative – and then he expends all of his efforts at attacking Conservatives.

    You aren’t a conservative, you are an idiot.

    I ask again the question Bill never could answer – How do you expect support from Conservatives for whatever it is that you want support for….

    Not shooting ourselves yourself in the foot? Isn’t it a bit sad that you needed to be persuaded not to do that?

    when you constantly, continually, and viscerally attack those very Conservatives that you say you want support from?

    You do not speak for conservatives, you speak for idiots. Where have I “said” that I wanted your support? I am not asking for your “support” for anything, indeed, with the backstabbing that passes for sentient thought around here you effectively support those who you claim to be against.

    “Or, the shorter version of the question – How do you engender support from Conservatives by attacking them?”

    Where have I “attacked” a “conservative”? Does calling yourself a conservative entitle you to effectively support the leftist agenda? According to your incessant whining it does. Wrong again… The “support” that you seem to be referring to is nothing but kicking and screaming that everything hasn’t been done for you or at best dead weight to be carried by those who are willing to get off their asses. Honestly; you personally are a cautionary tale, not something I need support from.

    “So, go ahead Bill, project away. “

    I wish that when I teach you a shiny new word that you would bother to try to use it in a context where it might make some sense…

    “Continue to be the liar and troll that we’ve all come to know and not care about.”

    Where have I lied? Pointing out that idiotic attitudes like those promoted here are one of the reasons that we have 2 branches, soon to be 3 controlled by the democrats isn’t “trolling”.

    “When you’re willing to discuss anything in a mature, intelligent manner then we can actually have a conversation.”

    Again, personally JHSII: I don’t like you. I think you are a little follower who is too stupid to think for himself and too needy and seeking of approval from your peer group to question the rat hole you are being lead down. I don’t wish to “discuss” anything with you, maturely or otherwise because you have demonstrated over and over that you aren’t up to the task.

  82. #562978
    On December 4th, 2008 at 1:07 pm, JHSII said:

    It’s the SOP for Bill Grant: Lies, trolling, name-calling, and attacks on Conservatives.

    It’s easy to see why Bill Grant won’t discuss anything in a mature, intelligent manner – he’s not capable of it.

    Bill even made a bad liberal plant – he was too easy to spot!!

  83. #562988
    On December 4th, 2008 at 1:15 pm, Bill Grant said:

    On December 4th, 2008 at 9:14 am, MtsEdge said:

    Here’s where you go wrong…conservatives are not “turning on each other”, they’re trying to weed out the socialists from the R party!

    It is a numbers game. If we “weed out” everyone that isn’t in lock step agreement pretty soon we aren’t going to have anyone left.

    Imagine for a moment that you were able to clone 100 Ronald Reagans (Who was called the equivalent of a “RINO” when he ran.) and remove his amnesty/defect gene. Could they all be elected to the senate in all 50 states? Could zombie Reagan get elected in Vermont, or Hawaii, or Rhode Island?

    Here’s where you go wrong…conservatives are not “turning on each other”,

    The only thing more stupid than being called a “racist” because I waned to keep Obama out is being called a “RINO” because I actually voted for a Republican…

    If people like you had their way, we’d have only one political party in this country, Socialist/Communist.

    Who are “people like me”? Somehow I am a Socialist/Communist? I wish you could appreciate how stupid that is.

    While you enjoy attacking “purists”, those of us who have a backbone are fighting to eliminate the posers.

    Some of those “posers” might come in handy every now and then, especially when you consider the alternative.

    Please get out of the way and stop attacking those of us who truly care about CONSERVATISM.

    I care about the country. “Get out of the way?” Nope, what you don’t realize is that in order to have a say you need to get elected. Insisting on running people like Alan Keyes is just going to keep Republicans out in the cold.

  84. #563004
    On December 4th, 2008 at 1:25 pm, JHSII said:

    Wow, a hysterical rant from Bill not directed at me or Michelle Malkin!!

    What is the world coming to????

    :roll: !!OMG!! :roll:

  85. #563008
    On December 4th, 2008 at 1:26 pm, Bill Grant said:

    On December 4th, 2008 at 1:07 pm, JHSII said:

    It’s the SOP for Bill Grant: Lies, trolling, name-calling, and attacks on Conservatives.

    So do you just sit there all day and hit refresh? Aren’t “conservatives” supposed to have jobs? Are you conserving your mothers basement and your virginity you unbelievable loser?

    It’s easy to see why Bill Grant won’t discuss anything in a mature, intelligent manner – he’s not capable of it.

    So I write:”I don’t wish to “discuss” anything with you, maturely or otherwise because you have demonstrated over and over that you aren’t up to the task” and you rub both IQ points together and hit me with the old rubber/glue defense… Well played Einstein.

    Bill even made a bad liberal plant – he was too easy to spot!!

    What you have advocated and insisted on here has resulted in a Republican rout… yet you call me a “liberal”. Hey JHSII, thanks for Obama you big, self described “conservative”.

  86. #563014
    On December 4th, 2008 at 1:29 pm, Bill Grant said:

    On December 4th, 2008 at 1:25 pm, JHSII said:

    Wow, a hysterical rant from Bill not directed at me or Michelle Malkin!!

    …That you had nothing better to do then to comment on. Nothing hysterical about it, just something else that was evidentially over your head.

  87. #563017
    On December 4th, 2008 at 1:31 pm, mike.musculus said:

    #47
    On December 2nd, 2008 at 9:31 pm, love2rumba said:

    You know, Spector the Liberal’s Friendly Ghost, has cost us twice.

    1) We lost a good solid Conservative when the wobblies voted for The Ghost in the primaries. This happened because
    GWB did something never done by a Repub prior to his admin.: interfering in the primary against Toomey, using the Political Capital from TWoT — not against those defaiming the troops, but using that Bully Pulpit against Toomey. He then twisted Santorum’s arm forcing him to backtrack & shill for The Ghost.

    2) Flipping to shill for the ephemerally-principled Spector cost us Santorum. Here why:
    I remember long talks w/Dad during that election cycle. He’s a “diner-diver”, ie: he loves them, their history, their food, everything! When StepMom was stationed at McGuire AFB, he spent the 1st 2.5yrs, (and gained 15#s) visiting every diner in a 300mi. radius. He during that election cycle, told me that listening into conversations among locals, it was amazing the simmering anger of people who thought Santorum betrayed his own ideals flipping when GWB pressed him to shill for eSpectorate. They felt he would fold when pressed on anything, & didn’t believe he’d hang-on w/his warnings abt TWoT. They thought it was show.

    He started to make headway in the polls just prior to the election, through HEAVYmedia buys. Then, the Fri. prior to Election Day, RNC pulled all his funding, transfering it to Chaffee. The rumor was it was done because Santorum embarrassed GWB on Amnesty.

    This was the 2nd primary where GWB stumped against the Conservative! The other, I think (I don’t have my notes w/me), was Chaffee — & look how wonderful that worked out! After he lost & couldn’t hurt the conserv. movement in Congress, he switchd to D!

    So you see why I have extreme disgust for RINOs: They scream against “Ideological Purity”, but just cross them & see what you get violating the purity of their ideology (wobbly Liberalism).

  88. #563021
    On December 4th, 2008 at 1:34 pm, JHSII said:

    Another SOP post from Bill Grant; trolling, name-calling, and attacks on Conservatives. Is this all he can do?

    My favorite thing so that Bill said was:

    I wish that when I teach you a shiny new word that you would bother to try to use it in a context where it might make some sense…

    Here Bill gets two things wrong. First – he enver taught me anything. Second – Bll deliberately takes something I posted out of context so that he could attack me (again) and then he attacks me as taking something out of context that I specifically made sure was in the exact context that he wrote it.

    Double standard, Yay!!

    BTW, Bill is the one who deliberately drove Conservatives away from McCain by viscerally attacking them – that is why we got Barkey.

  89. #563025
    On December 4th, 2008 at 1:37 pm, JHSII said:

    Bill Grant #86

    …and another hysterical rant!!

    I see another problem Bill has – malignant narcissism.

  90. #563035
    On December 4th, 2008 at 1:44 pm, MtsEdge said:

    is being called a “RINO” because I actually voted for a Republican…

    Assuming you mean McCain, I voted for the RINO, too. That doesn’t make me a RINO. It makes me a very disappointed conservative.

    Your comments keep implying that those of us who want to weed out the RINOs didn’t vote for McCain. There were 58,343,671 Americans who did, and many of them post on this blog (read=conservatives). You keep ignoring this inconvenient fact. I realize it helps to support your argument if you envision that “conservatives” and “purists” voted outside the R ticket and helped Obama win…but you’re wrong. It’s the wobbly ones (to quote our Mike M.) who abandoned THEIR principles to vote for Obama that gave him the election.

    Could zombie Reagan get elected in Vermont, or Hawaii, or Rhode Island?

    Yes.

  91. #563040
    On December 4th, 2008 at 1:49 pm, mike.musculus said:

    H2O NOT= H2SO4

    Tiny differences —
    But drink a glass of each,
    then tell me Purity’s NOT a peach!

    Watch as they backstab from Congress’ Floor —
    If you enjoy such carnage instread I emplore:
    Drink instead a glass of H2SO4!

    If instead such Carnage you disdain:
    NEVER vote for an Ideological Wh0re againe!

    Query:
    Does this mean that Bwarney Fwank (Overseer[sic] of Banking Comittee) is Congresses’ Fannie Bandit?

  92. #563100
    On December 4th, 2008 at 2:38 pm, Bill Grant said:

    On December 4th, 2008 at 1:34 pm, JHSII said:

    Another SOP post from Bill Grant; trolling, name-calling, and attacks on Conservatives. Is this all he can do?

    So when I wrote:

    “…be sure to follow this up with some non-sequitur effluence[…] Make sure that it is cut and paste-able so that you can post it over and over like the brainless parrot that you are. That will prove MY point; that you are an idiot”

    And since you have followed it with:

    It’s the SOP for Bill Grant: Lies, trolling, name-calling, and attacks on Conservatives….

    Another SOP post from Bill Grant; trolling, name-calling, and attacks on Conservatives…

    You confirm the obvious. Odds are it wont stop you from confirming it again.

    “Here Bill gets two things wrong. First – he enver[sic] taught me anything.”

    Never taught me anything…
    As previously outlined ( On June 25th, 2008 at 12:08 pm, Bill Grant said:
    Just FYI: When you learn a new word like “projection” it is often best not to use it in every other sentence. You are probably best off sticking with the phrases you already know like: “Would you like fries with that”?
    ) you hadn’t used the term “projection” or referenced the concept of “psychological projection” before it was thrown in your face.

    Second – Bll[sic] deliberately takes something I posted out of context

    I have answered your idiocy line by line so that is a lie.

    “and then he attacks me “

    Crybaby.

    “as taking something out of context that I specifically made sure was in the exact context that he wrote it.”

    Wrong. As I pointed out you can’t get through one of your whine-fests without using the word “projection” now, in this case, much like “malignant narcissism” you have no concept of the term you are tossing out actually means. Anyone following along can only come to the conclusion that you are a moron as well as a crybaby.

    Bill is the one who deliberately drove Conservatives away from McCain by viscerally attacking them – that is why we got Barkey.

    Conservatives aren’t needy crybabies, you have no right to presume to speak for conservatives.

  93. #563107
    On December 4th, 2008 at 2:44 pm, JHSII said:

    SOP for Bill Grant; Lies, trolling, ad hominums, name-calling, projection, and attacks on Conservatives.

    In his latest post we see examples of all of the above.

    And all of this is supposed to show his “superiority” over everyone else.

    :roll:

  94. #563110
    On December 4th, 2008 at 2:49 pm, Bill Grant said:

    On December 4th, 2008 at 1:44 pm, MtsEdge said:

    Your comments keep implying that those of us who want to weed out the RINOs didn’t vote for McCain.

    Many didn’t.

    I realize it helps to support your argument if you envision that “conservatives” and “purists” voted outside the R ticket and helped Obama win…but you’re wrong.

    It isn’t enough to just vote, the opposition gave money, worked to get out the vote and completely outworked “us”. It’s pretty hard to do that when you are constantly hearing a drone of “McCain = crap”. Indeed, when subjected to the constant drone of “such and such is a RINO” people are likely to throw their votes away on some idiot like Alan Keyes or stay home: There were 4.1 million fewer Republicans voting this year than in 2004. Some missing Republicans had turned independent or Democratic for this election. But most simply stayed home.

    Now we want to do the same thing all over again? And you want ME to get out of the way?

  95. #563119
    On December 4th, 2008 at 2:54 pm, Bill Grant said:

    On December 4th, 2008 at 2:44 pm, JHSII said:

    SOP for Bill Grant; Lies, trolling, ad hominums, name-calling, projection, and attacks on Conservatives.

    You really do just sit there and hit refresh… Pathetic. And again, your retort is a generic cut and paste… It doesn’t address anything I wrote. You truly must be mentally retarded to keep doing exactly what I have said that you will do which will brand you an idiot.

    “And all of this is supposed to show his “superiority” over everyone else.”

    If you are going to use quotation marks you need to reference where I stated that I was out to prove my “superiority”. If you can’t that makes you a liar.

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