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		<title>By: Pelosi &#38; Reid: Irresponsible Leftist Liars &#171; Mark&#8217;s Musings</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pelosi &#38; Reid: Irresponsible Leftist Liars &#171; Mark&#8217;s Musings</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 10:43:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] is it the very people Harry Reid cannot stand to smell have to balance their checkbooks? Why is it American corporations that have spent millions on bonuses do not? Why is it Americans lose their homes if they [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Capitalist View</title>
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		<dc:creator>Capitalist View</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 08:07:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: cabrerski</title>
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		<dc:creator>cabrerski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 04:49:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can&#039;t even count to eleventy trillion...but then again, i are a publik skool gradumate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t even count to eleventy trillion&#8230;but then again, i are a publik skool gradumate.</p>
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		<title>By: robert537</title>
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		<dc:creator>robert537</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 04:38:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think we&#039;re all hosed... one way or the other, the UAW &quot;workers&quot; and retirees will be bailed out.

If the (formerly) Big 3 go Chapter 11, the gummint will probably assume these pension obligations (so we&#039;re getting stuck one way or the other). The only difference is where the checks come from: DC or Detroit.

Devils advocate: If you worked in an industry until retirement under agreements that your company signed and you planned your retirement around same - what would you do?

Like much of the rest of this debacle, the libs own far more of the blame than most people realize... after all, who made it so easy for the UAW and the Big 3 to enter agreements that anyone with a modicum of common sense knew would eventually go off the cliff?

I guess it was the same people who signed up California taxpayers to pay the state employee pensions that have brought us to the brink of insolvency.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think we&#8217;re all hosed&#8230; one way or the other, the UAW &#8220;workers&#8221; and retirees will be bailed out.</p>
<p>If the (formerly) Big 3 go Chapter 11, the gummint will probably assume these pension obligations (so we&#8217;re getting stuck one way or the other). The only difference is where the checks come from: DC or Detroit.</p>
<p>Devils advocate: If you worked in an industry until retirement under agreements that your company signed and you planned your retirement around same &#8211; what would you do?</p>
<p>Like much of the rest of this debacle, the libs own far more of the blame than most people realize&#8230; after all, who made it so easy for the UAW and the Big 3 to enter agreements that anyone with a modicum of common sense knew would eventually go off the cliff?</p>
<p>I guess it was the same people who signed up California taxpayers to pay the state employee pensions that have brought us to the brink of insolvency.</p>
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		<title>By: bjc</title>
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		<dc:creator>bjc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 02:34:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I spent 33 years in and around the Big 3 and the transplants while employed by various Tier 1 parts suppliers; The Big 3 and the UAW have a strong aversion to each other; Company execs continued to feed the monster, not realizing it would eventually devour them; As I have said before, the UAW is a cross between a scorpion and a vampire bat; Like a scorpion, they paralyze a company in their day to day operations, and in their short and long term business planning, then, like a vampire bat, they bleed the company dry; That is the UAW business model.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I spent 33 years in and around the Big 3 and the transplants while employed by various Tier 1 parts suppliers; The Big 3 and the UAW have a strong aversion to each other; Company execs continued to feed the monster, not realizing it would eventually devour them; As I have said before, the UAW is a cross between a scorpion and a vampire bat; Like a scorpion, they paralyze a company in their day to day operations, and in their short and long term business planning, then, like a vampire bat, they bleed the company dry; That is the UAW business model.</p>
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		<title>By: AN INDEPENDENT AUTHENTIC CONSERVATIVE VOICE &#187; Your Daily Fill - News of the Day</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 02:26:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Auto execs grovel, but still no real change; White House: Prove your “viability&#8221; [...]</description>
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		<title>By: MtsEdge</title>
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		<dc:creator>MtsEdge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 01:15:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>CCS #53, you&#039;re too funny!!  :)</description>
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		<title>By: MarcoPolo</title>
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		<dc:creator>MarcoPolo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 01:05:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Michelle said: But if they can prove their “viability,” why do they need my money?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Exactly.  You&#039;d think that at least one of the banks we bailed out could spare a loan of $25 billion or so.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Michelle said: But if they can prove their “viability,” why do they need my money?</p></blockquote>
<p>Exactly.  You&#8217;d think that at least one of the banks we bailed out could spare a loan of $25 billion or so.</p>
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		<title>By: MarcoPolo</title>
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		<dc:creator>MarcoPolo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 00:59:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Our next car, whenever the heck we can afford one, will not be GM, Chrysler or Ford. We will find a USA-built Japanese car.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

We&#039;ve been shopping for a new car for  about a month. We switched to the same strategy after discussing it at length over the weekend.

We live in MI, and I will tell you that it is not just the bailout, but the attitude of the workers. They are absolutely convinced that they should not be made to give up a dime while the rest of us should pitch in and help them out.

If we all have to suffer together, then let&#039;s just do it. But I won&#039;t carry my share and theirs too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Our next car, whenever the heck we can afford one, will not be GM, Chrysler or Ford. We will find a USA-built Japanese car.</p></blockquote>
<p>We&#8217;ve been shopping for a new car for  about a month. We switched to the same strategy after discussing it at length over the weekend.</p>
<p>We live in MI, and I will tell you that it is not just the bailout, but the attitude of the workers. They are absolutely convinced that they should not be made to give up a dime while the rest of us should pitch in and help them out.</p>
<p>If we all have to suffer together, then let&#8217;s just do it. But I won&#8217;t carry my share and theirs too.</p>
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		<title>By: CantCureStupid</title>
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		<dc:creator>CantCureStupid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 00:57:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt; On December 2nd, 2008 at 3:24 pm, love2rumba said:

Bush/Republicans/Democrats are just trying to look tough after they put us in debt 750 b’s…They are such a joke
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

You have nailed it, my friend.

That $25 billion of freshly printed toilet paper is burning a hole in their pockets and they can&#039;t &lt;em&gt;wait&lt;/em&gt; to give it away, if not to the Pig 3 (not a typo), than to some other mental midget reprobate with a crappy business model.

To hell with the lot of them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p> On December 2nd, 2008 at 3:24 pm, love2rumba said:</p>
<p>Bush/Republicans/Democrats are just trying to look tough after they put us in debt 750 b’s…They are such a joke
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<p>You have nailed it, my friend.</p>
<p>That $25 billion of freshly printed toilet paper is burning a hole in their pockets and they can&#8217;t <em>wait</em> to give it away, if not to the Pig 3 (not a typo), than to some other mental midget reprobate with a crappy business model.</p>
<p>To hell with the lot of them.</p>
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		<title>By: MtsEdge</title>
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		<dc:creator>MtsEdge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 00:02:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;This is nothing more than a ritual dance. Meaningless.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

flyover, my thoughts exactly...I thought it was funny, too, that Wagoner came in a car instead of flying commercial...just can&#039;t quite bring himself to fly with the peasants, can he?  (those same peasants from which he&#039;d like to fleece his portion of $25B)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>This is nothing more than a ritual dance. Meaningless.</p></blockquote>
<p>flyover, my thoughts exactly&#8230;I thought it was funny, too, that Wagoner came in a car instead of flying commercial&#8230;just can&#8217;t quite bring himself to fly with the peasants, can he?  (those same peasants from which he&#8217;d like to fleece his portion of $25B)</p>
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		<title>By: ChooseTheHero.com &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Automakers Unveil Dog &#38; Pony Hybrid</title>
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		<dc:creator>ChooseTheHero.com &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Automakers Unveil Dog &#38; Pony Hybrid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 00:00:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Bailoutpalooza 2008, Detroit Style, continues&#8230; [...]</description>
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		<title>By: ChooseTheHero.com &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Automakers Unveil Dog &#38; Pony Hybrid</title>
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		<dc:creator>ChooseTheHero.com &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Automakers Unveil Dog &#38; Pony Hybrid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 00:00:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Bailoutpalooza 2008, Detroit Style, continues&#8230; [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Dimsdale</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dimsdale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 23:04:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt; On December 2nd, 2008 at 1:00 pm, sonofdy said:

This is stupid, they throw arround 1.5 TRILLION Aand all of a sudden 25 billion is a big deal? Please.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

That is Congress trying to prove &lt;em&gt;its&lt;/em&gt; viability!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p> On December 2nd, 2008 at 1:00 pm, sonofdy said:</p>
<p>This is stupid, they throw arround 1.5 TRILLION Aand all of a sudden 25 billion is a big deal? Please.</p></blockquote>
<p>That is Congress trying to prove <em>its</em> viability!</p>
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		<title>By: Misscheryl</title>
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		<dc:creator>Misscheryl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 21:54:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Mulally says Ford has said it has enough cash to make it through 2009 and may not need government help. &lt;/blockquote&gt;

cry me a river!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Mulally says Ford has said it has enough cash to make it through 2009 and may not need government help. </p></blockquote>
<p>cry me a river!</p>
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