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		<title>By: RockyR</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2008/12/03/why-gm-is-doomed/comment-page-1/#comment-570866</link>
		<dc:creator>RockyR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Dec 2008 07:58:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is an easy solution to this problem: BOYCOTT GM.  Force them out of business.  These jokers don&#039;t deserve your business.  They don&#039;t deserve your continued subsidies of their bloated lifestyles.

I&#039;m under 40...  Almost under 30.  I&#039;ll never buy a GM car, or a Ford, or even a Chrysler.  I&#039;ll admit that every GM car I&#039;ve driven since the 90s when my older parents stopped buying American and went Japanese (tired of reliability/maintenance issues) was a rental car, but every single one of them has sucked.  &lt;strong&gt;Every single one without exception.&lt;/strong&gt;

GM could produce the next Honda Accord next year after this bailout (right) and I wouldn&#039;t buy it, now.  They are coming to us saying they have to steal our money to remain viable?  NO - they need to make good products to remain viable.  That&#039;s not very likely to happen under the current regime now is it?

There is a clear solution: stop buying.  Starve the incompetent, make way for the competent to take over.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is an easy solution to this problem: BOYCOTT GM.  Force them out of business.  These jokers don&#8217;t deserve your business.  They don&#8217;t deserve your continued subsidies of their bloated lifestyles.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m under 40&#8230;  Almost under 30.  I&#8217;ll never buy a GM car, or a Ford, or even a Chrysler.  I&#8217;ll admit that every GM car I&#8217;ve driven since the 90s when my older parents stopped buying American and went Japanese (tired of reliability/maintenance issues) was a rental car, but every single one of them has sucked.  <strong>Every single one without exception.</strong></p>
<p>GM could produce the next Honda Accord next year after this bailout (right) and I wouldn&#8217;t buy it, now.  They are coming to us saying they have to steal our money to remain viable?  NO &#8211; they need to make good products to remain viable.  That&#8217;s not very likely to happen under the current regime now is it?</p>
<p>There is a clear solution: stop buying.  Starve the incompetent, make way for the competent to take over.</p>
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		<title>By: lowandslow</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2008/12/03/why-gm-is-doomed/comment-page-1/#comment-565112</link>
		<dc:creator>lowandslow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Dec 2008 23:21:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;As an artist my passion is to paint old cars. Restored, junked, pieces, just love the beauty of how they reflect the time in which they were built. Just occured to me last night as I was painting a Studebaker and a Packard&lt;/blockquote&gt;You painted a Studebaker and Packard last night? Wow that&#039;s a lot of sanding and masking.  

Oh wait, not that kind of painting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>As an artist my passion is to paint old cars. Restored, junked, pieces, just love the beauty of how they reflect the time in which they were built. Just occured to me last night as I was painting a Studebaker and a Packard</p></blockquote>
<p>You painted a Studebaker and Packard last night? Wow that&#8217;s a lot of sanding and masking.  </p>
<p>Oh wait, not that kind of painting.</p>
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		<title>By: By Choice</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2008/12/03/why-gm-is-doomed/comment-page-1/#comment-564755</link>
		<dc:creator>By Choice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Dec 2008 21:44:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As an artist my passion is to paint old cars. Restored, junked, pieces, just love the beauty of how they reflect the time in which they were built.  Just occured to me last night as I was painting a Studebaker and a Packard that car companies come and go and maybe it is time for the &quot;big three&quot; to say good-bye, consolidate,  get bought out or go bankrupt. The world didn&#039;t stop when the Hudson stopped being produced.  

Plus I find it REAL hard to believe that all THREE are in the same situation--somebody is lying.......</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As an artist my passion is to paint old cars. Restored, junked, pieces, just love the beauty of how they reflect the time in which they were built.  Just occured to me last night as I was painting a Studebaker and a Packard that car companies come and go and maybe it is time for the &#8220;big three&#8221; to say good-bye, consolidate,  get bought out or go bankrupt. The world didn&#8217;t stop when the Hudson stopped being produced.  </p>
<p>Plus I find it REAL hard to believe that all THREE are in the same situation&#8211;somebody is lying&#8230;&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Jean</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2008/12/03/why-gm-is-doomed/comment-page-1/#comment-563339</link>
		<dc:creator>Jean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 00:05:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love Ford, GM And Chevy... I never bought a Japanese or Foreign velichle ever.  Proud owner of a &#039;02 Ford Taurus SES.

I do feel however that The US Automakers need to go it alone.  The Founding Fathers would never approve of a bailout or The US Government being as big as it is today.  

You dug yourself the hole... you need to get out yourself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love Ford, GM And Chevy&#8230; I never bought a Japanese or Foreign velichle ever.  Proud owner of a &#8216;02 Ford Taurus SES.</p>
<p>I do feel however that The US Automakers need to go it alone.  The Founding Fathers would never approve of a bailout or The US Government being as big as it is today.  </p>
<p>You dug yourself the hole&#8230; you need to get out yourself.</p>
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		<title>By: Bailouts Galore &#171; 36 Chambers - The Legendary Journeys: Execution to the max!</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bailouts Galore &#171; 36 Chambers - The Legendary Journeys: Execution to the max!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 23:56:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] in bailout cash for its own, including $4 billion in December and $4 billion in January.  Since GM has no long-term prospects of success at its current rate, that&#8217;s pushed the $25 billion up to $50 billion a year for one company.  Let the losers [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] in bailout cash for its own, including $4 billion in December and $4 billion in January.  Since GM has no long-term prospects of success at its current rate, that&#8217;s pushed the $25 billion up to $50 billion a year for one company.  Let the losers [...]</p>
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		<title>By: docjohn52</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 03:53:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I REALLY love my Jeep.
Goes anywhere, does anything, pulls Hummers out of the mud, real bang for the buck.
I really don&#039;t see Jeep needing a bailout.
The REST of them can fail, but this country needs more Jeeps...

to head for the hills when the truth-squads show up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I REALLY love my Jeep.<br />
Goes anywhere, does anything, pulls Hummers out of the mud, real bang for the buck.<br />
I really don&#8217;t see Jeep needing a bailout.<br />
The REST of them can fail, but this country needs more Jeeps&#8230;</p>
<p>to head for the hills when the truth-squads show up.</p>
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		<title>By: Dasher</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dasher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 01:33:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As sales volumes decrease, the legacy costs per vehicle sky rocket. So the solution also requires that they build a vehicle that people want to buy. A 33 percent decline in volume equals a 50 percent increase in legacy costs per vehicle</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As sales volumes decrease, the legacy costs per vehicle sky rocket. So the solution also requires that they build a vehicle that people want to buy. A 33 percent decline in volume equals a 50 percent increase in legacy costs per vehicle</p>
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		<title>By: AlohaGuy</title>
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		<dc:creator>AlohaGuy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 01:13:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Lastly the car line. Here I would merge the Pontiac division and the Chevrolet line. Make a small economical entry level car.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

One problem with so many lines is that there are rivalries between them.  Chevy makes a great engine, but the careerists didn&#039;t want to work for Chevy, so it was the cheap and nasty division.  Great engine in a plastic-feeling car, parts falling off, no power windows for like 20 years after every Japanese car had them....that sort of thing.  For over a generation GM cars sucked compared to foreign cars, so no one under 40 even wants one now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Lastly the car line. Here I would merge the Pontiac division and the Chevrolet line. Make a small economical entry level car.</p></blockquote>
<p>One problem with so many lines is that there are rivalries between them.  Chevy makes a great engine, but the careerists didn&#8217;t want to work for Chevy, so it was the cheap and nasty division.  Great engine in a plastic-feeling car, parts falling off, no power windows for like 20 years after every Japanese car had them&#8230;.that sort of thing.  For over a generation GM cars sucked compared to foreign cars, so no one under 40 even wants one now.</p>
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		<title>By: oldcollegeguy1980</title>
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		<dc:creator>oldcollegeguy1980</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 23:03:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another thing that must be corrected in the auto industry. 

I have bought several cars in my life.  In several different states.

There is little more in life more detestable than the treatment a person gets at most dealerships.  Cadillac aside, in my experience, the majority of the salespeople and finance people I have dealt with were the lowest of the low. 

I know this may not sound nice, but the corporations must take an active role in policing the goings on at the dealerships that sell their cars.  

How many times have you not bought an automobile because of the salespeople? Or someone else at a particular dealership? 

I know these are franchise dealerships, but that may also be a part of the problem.
 

They need to take responsibility of the entire process.  The manufacture, the representations, the sales and the service.

Ownership and responsibility.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another thing that must be corrected in the auto industry. </p>
<p>I have bought several cars in my life.  In several different states.</p>
<p>There is little more in life more detestable than the treatment a person gets at most dealerships.  Cadillac aside, in my experience, the majority of the salespeople and finance people I have dealt with were the lowest of the low. </p>
<p>I know this may not sound nice, but the corporations must take an active role in policing the goings on at the dealerships that sell their cars.  </p>
<p>How many times have you not bought an automobile because of the salespeople? Or someone else at a particular dealership? </p>
<p>I know these are franchise dealerships, but that may also be a part of the problem.</p>
<p>They need to take responsibility of the entire process.  The manufacture, the representations, the sales and the service.</p>
<p>Ownership and responsibility.</p>
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		<title>By: Avi Green</title>
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		<dc:creator>Avi Green</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 21:18:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Personally, I see no future for Ford. They should just shut down.

As for GM, here&#039;s what they should be doing:

Discontinue the Saturn line, and sell off foreign companies they own like Opel and Vauxhall. And they should also stop making any sedan that guzzles too much gas, and just keep those that take decent amounts.

Until then, let&#039;s hope that Peugeot, Citroen, Fiat, Alfa Romeo and Lancia, come back to the US, and that Iveco will follow with their trucks and buses.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Personally, I see no future for Ford. They should just shut down.</p>
<p>As for GM, here&#8217;s what they should be doing:</p>
<p>Discontinue the Saturn line, and sell off foreign companies they own like Opel and Vauxhall. And they should also stop making any sedan that guzzles too much gas, and just keep those that take decent amounts.</p>
<p>Until then, let&#8217;s hope that Peugeot, Citroen, Fiat, Alfa Romeo and Lancia, come back to the US, and that Iveco will follow with their trucks and buses.</p>
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		<title>By: GM&#8217;s Doomed, and Misery Loves Company &#171; Jane Q. Republican</title>
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		<dc:creator>GM&#8217;s Doomed, and Misery Loves Company &#171; Jane Q. Republican</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 21:08:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Doomed, and Misery Loves&#160;Company  Jump to Comments From the Wall Street Journal (via Michelle Malkin and HotAir   If you’re a U.S. taxpayer you ought to read GM’s “Restructuring Plan for [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Doomed, and Misery Loves&nbsp;Company  Jump to Comments From the Wall Street Journal (via Michelle Malkin and HotAir   If you’re a U.S. taxpayer you ought to read GM’s “Restructuring Plan for [...]</p>
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		<title>By: cheapseat</title>
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		<dc:creator>cheapseat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 19:07:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>with the price of these stocks nearing the penny stock range, let the uaw buy the company. let them put their money where their mouth is.  you believe you make a sellable vehicle, put up or shut up. otherwise, as an investor i&#039;m telling these companies to chapter 11, and build new plants in singapore etc. so the products are reliable, cheap, and imported.  seems americans have chosen imports over domestic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>with the price of these stocks nearing the penny stock range, let the uaw buy the company. let them put their money where their mouth is.  you believe you make a sellable vehicle, put up or shut up. otherwise, as an investor i&#8217;m telling these companies to chapter 11, and build new plants in singapore etc. so the products are reliable, cheap, and imported.  seems americans have chosen imports over domestic.</p>
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		<title>By: Regulus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Regulus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 18:09:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If GM, Ford and Chrysler are &quot;too big to fail,&quot; then that&#039;s what Chapter 11 was meant for.

There&#039;s no way out of the hole until the UAW is busted.  Chapter 11 will allow that.  Until then, all these stupid bailout hearings can be summed up by one of those IBM television commercials, the one in which a consultant to King Arthur proposes building a catapult to slay a dragon with huge bags of coins:

Arthur: &lt;em&gt;&quot;Are you suggesting we throw money at the problem?!?&quot;

&lt;/em&gt;Consultant: &lt;em&gt;&quot;Precisely!&quot;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If GM, Ford and Chrysler are &#8220;too big to fail,&#8221; then that&#8217;s what Chapter 11 was meant for.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s no way out of the hole until the UAW is busted.  Chapter 11 will allow that.  Until then, all these stupid bailout hearings can be summed up by one of those IBM television commercials, the one in which a consultant to King Arthur proposes building a catapult to slay a dragon with huge bags of coins:</p>
<p>Arthur: <em>&#8220;Are you suggesting we throw money at the problem?!?&#8221;</p>
<p></em>Consultant: <em>&#8220;Precisely!&#8221;</em></p>
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		<title>By: oldcollegeguy1980</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 17:59:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Aloha Guy, you are very close to the solution.

In my opinion there is no need to make as many models as the auto manufacturesers do make.

I like the new challenger, and know some folks like the hemi trucks. And so on.  But I see no future for Chrysler.  Prove me wrong.

That said.

GM should plan on being a smaller company.

Making as you said the Corvette.  Shoot me I&#039;m baised by the fact that I own 2.  Also keep the Cadillac Line.  As long as it is viable  

Next the Suburban, both an economical 2 wheel drive and a 4 wheel drive version.

Next the pick-up line.  This is the broadest line they should concentrate on.

Lastly the car line.  Here I would merge the Pontiac division and the Chevrolet line.  Make a small economical entry level car.  Electric or whatever.  I do not care.  Make the Grand  Prix. The Impala.  The Camaro. 

Anything above those basic choices is too much. 

It dilutes the brand and drains resources. 

Drop the legacy costs through bankruptcy.  

If this is not viable, cut till it is or call the auctioneer.  

Sink or Swim.

Otherwise I am buying Nissan, Toyota, or some other foreign label.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aloha Guy, you are very close to the solution.</p>
<p>In my opinion there is no need to make as many models as the auto manufacturesers do make.</p>
<p>I like the new challenger, and know some folks like the hemi trucks. And so on.  But I see no future for Chrysler.  Prove me wrong.</p>
<p>That said.</p>
<p>GM should plan on being a smaller company.</p>
<p>Making as you said the Corvette.  Shoot me I&#8217;m baised by the fact that I own 2.  Also keep the Cadillac Line.  As long as it is viable  </p>
<p>Next the Suburban, both an economical 2 wheel drive and a 4 wheel drive version.</p>
<p>Next the pick-up line.  This is the broadest line they should concentrate on.</p>
<p>Lastly the car line.  Here I would merge the Pontiac division and the Chevrolet line.  Make a small economical entry level car.  Electric or whatever.  I do not care.  Make the Grand  Prix. The Impala.  The Camaro. </p>
<p>Anything above those basic choices is too much. </p>
<p>It dilutes the brand and drains resources. </p>
<p>Drop the legacy costs through bankruptcy.  </p>
<p>If this is not viable, cut till it is or call the auctioneer.  </p>
<p>Sink or Swim.</p>
<p>Otherwise I am buying Nissan, Toyota, or some other foreign label.</p>
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		<title>By: GlenW</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 17:46:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And yet nowhere in there does it mention where they will be making cars that don&#039;t fall apart or have endless electrical gremlins.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And yet nowhere in there does it mention where they will be making cars that don&#8217;t fall apart or have endless electrical gremlins.</p>
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