Dear GOP: Don’t pander to minorities
In a segment on PJTV yesterday, Joe Hicks and I spanked Jeb Bush and other GOP elites who think the Republican Party should pander to minorities.
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How many more election losses will be required before they FINALLY learn that?
They have to want to learn first.
Just when you begin to believe that there’s hope. I guess they’ll spend 4 more years wandering around in the desert… oh well.
I wish they would pander to conservatives for once.
Just assume all minorities are gay and want to get married. Ta-da!
/tic
The best way to represent a minority is to represent each individual citizen. They are a minority of one. Members of minority groups gain, because they also are members of that minority.
BTW: How what does Jeb Bush think about his brother becoming a Socialist?
“…content of their character, rather than the color of their skin…” blah blah blah.
Lip service.
Right on!
Why is it so hard for the GOP to offer a reasonable alternative to socialism?
Nail – head.
Who knew Grand Old Party would end up being prophetic?
Because they are too busy trying to compete with Liberals on their (far too familiar) turf. If this is the rebranding the GOP is looking for then they’ll have to get used to the idea of being in the minority.
Given population trends and the projection that by 2050 “whites” will be only 47% of the population, coupled with the fact that a large percentage of minorities vote Democrat, doesn’t it make sense to try to appeal to minorities?
There’s a difference between trying to appeal to minorities and pandering to them.
H2O NOT= H2SO4
Tiny differences —
But drink a glass of each,
then tell me Purity’s NOT a peach!
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Watch as Our Masters gore –
Citizens on the Congress Floor —
If you enjoy such carnage —
instead I humbly emplore:
Drink instead a glass of H2SO4!
If such Carnage you disdain –
Since you simply Aren’t Insane —
I’ll say again as I’ve said before:
Hold your up head without Shame!
Throw-back your head, loudly proclaim —
Ideological Wh0res NEVER againe!
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Query:
Does this mean that Bwarney Fwank (Overseer[sic] of Banking Comittee) is Congresses’ Fannie Bandit?
“Vote: the instrument and symbol of a freeman’s power to make a fool of himself and a wreck of his country.”
Ambrose Bierce
Well I for one don’t want minorities in the Republican party. I want CONSERVATIVES in the republican party. The color of their skin is NOT important to me.
THEY NEED TO GET BACK TO CONSERVATIVE VALUES.
McCain tried that… it didn’t work. Please do keep up. Besides, how does one appeal to minorities? Promise them everything under the sun? Democrats don’t have a winning formula – if they did they wouldn’t have to cheat, commit fraud and undermine our rights/laws at every turn. Please take your collectivism and tell it folks who don’t know any better.
If this is the rebranding the GOP is looking for then they’ll have to get used to the idea of being in the minority.
Dear GOP.
I’m Latino. I’m unemployed. And I’m 39.
Firstly, as a Latino, I’m sick of every politician thinking that I need some kind of special consideration because of my minority status. I’m not dysfunctional, I’m not disabled, I’m not slow. But you keep talking to me as though I’m all of the above. I don’t need or want special consideration. My ethnicity should never be an issue if we truly want to be color blind. Stop reminding me of what I am. Stop pandering to me thinking you’re doing some good for a segment of the population that intentionally segregates itself from the mainstream.
Secondly, I’m unemployed, not helpless. I returned to school to better myself. I make my own choices. Though I’ve not been able to find work, constatly telling me the economy is horrible doesn’t help. Tell the truth, not what people want to hear. I’ll find a job, as I have before. Bettering myself and suffering now will pay off in the future.
Thirdly, I’m 39, which means I’m part of Generation-X. We were told time and time, and time again via news reports that we are not planning for the future. Did we listen? No. Did we learn? No. Do we deserve assistance? No. We can’t go thru life ignorant and hoping for the best. We have to work for what we want.
My ehtnicity, my job status, and my financial security are for me to worry about, to try harder, to plan for. Stop telling me what I alreay know and what should not matter to anyone but me.
Thank You,
Eddie “madmonkphotog” XXXXXXXXX
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It’s funny 30, but that’s what goes through these people’s heads when they think of appealing to minorities. How about instead we appeal to their self-respect, their sense of right and wrong, personal responsibility, fiscal responsibility, good educations for their children, spiritual enlightenment…
Hmm, doesn’t seem to have anything about skin color in that list.
SEE comment #24, DITTO.
what!? *You* try typing that in more than once on a PDA…
I’ll say a prayer for you. I do believe God is preparing a job for you right now.
AlohaGuy, you’re just SOOOOO old fashioned! All that stuff is just SOOOO last century!
Exactly. What the GOP has yet to realize is that Dems are very good at keeping a group of people beholden to them and will fight tooth and nails to keep it that way… let the mudslinging commence.
As I said before, if that’s the new face of the GOP… they’ll go it alone.
#24 et al, absolutely. if you don’t want to join the republican party, form the libertarian party or join the democrat party. senator mccain and that putz from pennsylvania need to pay attention to their core constituents first, not last. i’m not in politics because i can’t lie with a straight face, but at least go home with the one who brung ya, you morons.
I’m surprised the McCainanite “Conservatives”are here giving hue & cry about “the poison of insisting on ideological purity”.
I’ve noticed it on other threads, and on other blogs, over the months since the losing strategy of RINOism and Electability was chosen… and it got me wondering:
is it really that far-fetched that those who were pushing & now continuing the leftward-push of the GOP are 5th columnists?
It just seems *too* much a fit with the facts *unless* you postulate they are just **really** [literally] dumb as a box-of-rocks.
I don’t understand, you think that skin color *should* matter?
I was cheering m_f’s comment to the effect that we should care about skin color but Constitutional ahearence. You like Socialists?
That does seem the part that is lacking. Just maybe Sarah showed the way last Tuesday.
The Republicans remind me of a kid running around school begging everyone to be his friend. “Please, please, please play with me.” Trying to attract ANYONE with a pulse.
Instead, as people have mentioned on this blog, why not have people want to come to your team because you have a strong, consistent plan for individual freedom and prosperity. Like the Marines – we don’t want everybody, we just want the best.
Tee next step would then be to show people, all people, they CAN be among the best, too. They just need to throw off the shackles of the liberals and embrace freedom, liberty AND responsibility.
The only reason,besides cheating and gerrymandering, that the Democrats can win now is that they are a coalition party of special interest groups. As soon as the Republican party becomes ONE SPECIAL INTEREST GROUP, they’ll stop losing.
Ronald Reagan never pandered to anyone. He told people what conservatism was and watched them flock to him. What does the GOP hate about a 49-state landslide?
I’ve heard the black and latino populations described ad nauseum as being socially conservative, yet they voted democrat. It’s because conservatism has never been spelled out for them!
It be “racism” when it be bad.
It be “diversity” when it be good.
Hey, wheyah my weffare check be at?
fixed it.
The GOP leadership thought Reagan was an anomoly and really didn’t care for his policies. They didn’t mind hanging on to his coat-tails for that victory, but they really didn’t like Reagan’s message and had desired George Herbert Walker Bush to be president – not Reagan.
They still think they know best and act, not the people, and so must be more like Dems. If the people have to choose between faux Democrats or the real thing, well just ask McCain.
The task is simple. Present the platform, show them how the Republicans are more in line with the values they believe in and the only real difference between Democrats and Republicans is Republicans don’t believe in handouts. Well they didn’t use to anyway.
Take the results of Prop 8 in CA, quit letting the liberals spin it as if it was all a vast Christian/Mormon conspirarcy and then instill in them a sense of self achievement.
Quit running away from the fiscal conservative and national defense portions of what should be core conservative thinking.
If you build it they will come.
You say don’t pander to minorities, but you support female and minority GOP leaders who are unquestionably less experienced and less qualified than their white male peers.
You say your immigration stance isn’t xenophobic (which is true) but you want immigrants who are here already to “assimilate” by acting like white Americans.
The GOP didn’t get to be the White People Party for nothing — 90% of McCain voters being white. Y’all need to man up, support a path to citizenship, support affirmative action programs, give up the anti-gay crusade, and become a real opposition party. You know, one that draws votes from growing constituencies, not shrinking ones.
If the Republicans don’t stop their “democrats light” [I refuse to use the "other" spelling] policies and directions, there will be no point in voting for them.
Farewell, strategic vote. Hello, lots of write-ins.
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Red State Skeptic said: (#41)
I am not a Republican–when given the option of a party label, I say independent–but I am conservative. I am in favor of secure borders and an improved legal immigration system. Assimilation to me does not mean “white”–it means one language (English, from our history) for normal commerce and government (cultural differences are still welcome for enrichment, but not denigration of others), parental and individual responsibility, educational opportunities and choices, limited government, and a respect for everyone’s religion (or lack thereof) but not to the point of shutting up any other religion. And not demanding that the US culture change because of a new group of immigrants. To me, affirmative action means providing programs and opportunities to make up for deficiencies in background–not a quota based on national origin or skin color.
The Republicans will do better when they stick to principles, not pander to specific groups.
Hmm…not really. We are NOT in the true conservative leadership of Reagan. Under Bush, republicans have left all principles of limited govt and only pandered to white evangelicals.
1. Less experienced isn’t a bad thing if the experience is in losing. Less qualified to lead a conservative movement is what the more experienced white male peers have provided us.
2. I don’t want people to act “like white Americans.” I want people coming to the United States to act like Americans.
If you fail to understand this, your skepticism is in doubt.
ECS
ECS, your wasting your time. Red State Skeptic is a Classic Racist who works in the Progressive Mode. (see Margret Sanger).
He just wants to take care of the poor wood-headed minorities before they hurt they selfs…
After all, they can’t do it unless somebody steals it 1st & gives it to them…
Women are not a minority, the last time I checked the population tables. In terms of qualifications name one. DO NOT EVEN ATTEMPT to use Sarah Palin. That dog won’t hunt.
xenophobic That term is typical Leftist BOLSHOI. The use of any word PHOBIC in it implies the person with that trait has the opinion they have because of an irrational fear. That is bigotted term, used by people who cannot support their views rationally.
Because we children of immigrants insist on legal immigration we are evil in your eyes Well hot shot, if your position is so righteous, try changing the laws of the land instead of ignoring them, which is the style of leftists.
If we are xenophobic, because we object to people committing a felony by fraudulent use of a SSN, then I plead guilty WITH PRIDE.
There are Amwericans and legal immigrants in this country that are hurting. WHY? You can say EVIL conservatives. We say, the money that should be used to help them is being siphoned off and given to illegals and be wasted fighting crime caused by illegal MI13 types in this country WHO ARE BEING PROTECTED by local and state officials.
President Kennedy sent the 101st Airborne into Mississippi to restore law and order on the campus of Ole Miss, because the governor and his staff were racists criminals. Frankly, I would do the same thing with the city of San Francisco. It’s leaders are conducting an insurrection. I would crush it and send a message.
Kevin K.
The interesting thing is that, in this supposedly racist country, positive influences have always risen to the top and permeated through-out our society.
Our culture (until Liberals screwed it up…) acted like a giant filter that selected for excellence. It was how we were able to stride farther in 180yrs than Europe did in a 1000. We brought a curiousity and “if your way’s better, we’ll do…” to the party. Sometimes it led us astry, but (as we did w/slavery) we self-correct… maybe not fast enough to suit some, but we’re the only culture that does it.
And we (Conservs) care more about those around us than anyone else. This is empirically provable. And we do it not by law, but by nature.
Now this pondscum in a post above yours talks about “path to citizenship…” and other craptastic stupidity.
Let that man be burgled. When he is, let him negotiate to have the thief keep half… or sthp. That is what a path to citizenship for illegals is. No. If you cannot obey the least of laws, how can you obey the greater ones? You break into our house — oh no! Don’t ask! And then tell me its MY FAULT? ARE YOU NUTS?
Sorry K.K, to takea response to your well-done post and direct comments to Red State: that guy’s a moron, and today my supply of patience is low.
All we heard about Barack Obama before Sarah Palin came around was that he was inherently unqualified because of his lack of experience. By any criteria, Sarah Palin, Bobby Jindal and Michael Steele are less qualified than Mark Sanford, Haley Barbour, Rick Perry or Tim Pawlenty, none of whom has “experience in losing.”
It doesn’t make any sense to “act like Americans” because there are several different cultures of Americans. Obviously you don’t mean act like Jaime Foxx.
If you actually read what I wrote, you would see that I noted that it is not xenophobic to believe in border control, but many supporters of border control happen to be xenophobic (as evidenced by the desire for Mexicans not to be act Mexican).
Immigrants legal and illegal help this country by providing much-needed low-wage services, which any economist (especially conservative economists) will tell you is a net plus for the country. That’s why Wall Street favors amnesty. Americans aren’t “hurting” because of illegals; we owe them a great debt.
It sure looks like Obama’s people, as far back as early 2006, have looked into the inconvenient U.S. Constitutional requirement for a POTUS to be a “natural born” citizen – a requirement that it increasingly appears he does not meet. What is equally disturbing is that it would appear that they are following the premise of: If the facts do not support the theory, destroy the facts! I want the truth! Even Pravda raises Obama eligibility issue: http://wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=82647 – and,
An associate lawyer in a Chicago-based firm whose partner served on a finance committee for then-Sen. Barack Obama has advocated for the elimination of the U.S. Constitution’s requirement that a president be a “natural-born” citizen: http://wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=82680
Illegals artificially lower wages for legal workers here since they are working ‘off the books’.
Illegals are causing hospitals to close or have finacial difficulty because they don’t have health insurance.
Illegals are putting a strain on the schools because they aren’t full contributors in the tax base and their children don’t speak English.
How can there be a net gain for the economy? Please cite these ‘conservative economists’ you mention that believe illegal immigrants provide a net gain for the economy.
Damn straight. Ethnic pandering does not work for those on the right, never has, and never will.
What we DO have to do though is to continually combat those who want to paint the pro-enforcement crowd as “bigots” or “anti-immigration” (disingenuously dropping the “illegal” part of that as they are wont to do). We cannot let them define us that way, and we should be doing more to define THEM. It’s Jeb, McCain, and all of the other pro-ILLEGAL-immigration people that are indulging in the soft-bigotry of low expectations, and would thus would consign millions of poor Hispanics to exploitation by coyotes and others as well as to a life of indentured servitude in the US.
Case in point:
Yes, that’s all they are to you, aren’t they – just good, cheap, docile labor.
Good points.
I would also include that we might have a cart-before-the-horse issue here as well. Since we’re talking economics, illegal immigration can certainly be seen as tied to supply/demand macro economics.
There have been reports that illegal immigrants might be returning to their country of origin due to our current economic condition because employers are decreasing their demand for cheap labor (typically by cutting back services).
It’s not necessarily provable that we owe illegal immigrants when our economy was doing well. It might be just the reverse with the cause being that when we are doing well, it’s more attractive to be here and there is more money to be spent on those services.
It’s quite possible that the more Paulson bails and flails, the illegal immigration will actually decrease.
Talk about being between a rock and a hard place.
On December 4th, 2008 at 4:36 pm, Red State Skeptic said:
Hey buddy, don’t mess with The Jindal, or tens of thousands of Cajuns will be all over you like the stink of a crawfish boil’s day-old-trash.
We take stupid political slander personal down here, and your glossing over his abilities and qualifications will get you sent straight to tar and feather land.
Just shut your trap before someone shoves a po-boy down it.
Oh I almost forgot – you’re a collectivist moron who can’t think past your MSNBC.
Oh, Jesus Christ!!! If the iditos have not discovered that pandering to ethnic/racial groups only leads to the need for more pandering to racial/ethnic groups by now then they never will learn. It is a huge black hole of gimme gimme from minority grievance groups. They have no interest in what is best for the country as a whole, only what they can get fo rthe respective groups regardless of its impact to their fellow Americans.
And for the liberal trolls here, “acting like a white American” is not a bad thing. In fact, because you are obviously historically challenged (like my PC?), the d*mn country was founded by and was vastly majority white until the idiot PC pols decided we were “too white” and decided that we must change the demographics of the US to be PC and prove we are not racists. Whites, rightly or wrongly for you idiots, made this country great through a good work ethic, motivation, intelligence, and drive.. Any of us around back in the 60’s and 70’s can attest to the fact that it was a pretty darn safe and good place to live. Selective immigraiton, of any race, is a smart thing to do for the country. But allowing entry to any “wretch” who can drag themselves across the border is decidely ignorant in a country that has settled and made productive all of the available land mass. For every great immigrant we take these days, we take 9 uneducated and potential criminal immigrants. Now it is immigration just for the sake of immigration. How is that intelligent?
Are you a union boss? In my fiscally conservative opinion, we should have as many people as possible lowering the wages for unskilled work, whether overseas or in the US. Of course they should be on the books and part of the tax base — and they would like nothing more than that, and that would happen if not for the right wing of the Republican party putting the kibosh on comprehensive immigration reform.
And no, low wages aren’t the only thing good about immigrants, but they do rebut the idea that Americans are hurting because of them.
Agreed! I love white people. That doesn’t mean I give a crap whether everyone in this country adopts white people culture. You do you.
HOW WELL PUT!!! IT IS CLEAR AND TO THE POINT AND MORE IMPORTANTLY IT IS TRUE!!!!!!!!!!
Tre said, “How many more election losses will be required before they FINALLY learn that?”
They will never learn. Some of them are just sorry sissified cowardly losers, but most of them actually are in lockstep with the Democrat / RINO New World Order agenda.
Therefore you beleive that a unifying culture and language is not required for a mass of people living in a confined space under a single gov’t? Again, look back at history. When a society lost it’s unified culture and language (usually due to unfettered immigration for those not defeated in war), it’s demise soon followed. So let all those diverse groups (encouraged under multiculturalism) hunker down in their own enclaves, demanding rules/laws/benefits for the gain of their own ethnicity, due to language barriers and opposing culutres and see the ultimate outcome. Civil strife and distrust is the end game.
I’m a strait white male with a Germanic heritage. Some day I will be a minority. Will I get special treatment when that happens? Probably not.
Hey MM, you looked fantastic in that interview. I liked that commentator because he asked good questions and was very informative. The interview went smoothly. Hopefully we’ll see more of this type of thing in the future.
A good piece all around.
When has America ever had a “unified culture?” I’ve lived in the South and I’ve lived in the North, and I’ll tell you it AIN’T the same in any way. In fact, the north is more like Canada than it is the south. And with television, the two regions are now as similar as they’ve ever been.
I, too, have lived in both the north and the south (originally from Texas but have life long friends in NE). I dispute your claim that they are not the same in any way. There are reginal differnces (accents, food, etc) but the overall middle and northern European cultural values are relatively the same. To equate regional differences to cultural differences is a mistake. There is a huge difference between regional cultural differences in the past and municipal cultural differences of today as well. Mobility was not ther in the past, so a southerner was not likely ot accidentally wander into the ‘wrong neighborhood” as it is today. Proximity brought on by mobility and mass immigration of differing groups will lead to clashes eventually. The gov’t attitude of the more diverse the better is a ticking time bomb. Moderate amounts of diversity is a good thing. But too much diveristy leads to problems. A study released several months ago showed that the more diverse a community the less trust there was between the community members. The ability to trust your fellow citizens is crucial (the old united we stand concept).
One big omission is language, which is now being diluted due to massive immigration from hispanic countries (something the forefathers were acutely aware of, that immigration must be measured as to not allow for division or enclaves of hyphenated America). What happens if we import 20M more muslims to the country (which is possbile under your come one come all attitude)? I assume you would have no problem with that. So what if they want sharia law institued? Hey, it is their right. Having been in Texas over the prior decades, I have witnessed changes that I never thought I would see. Division of language, increases in crime, crimes that were once relegated to 3rd world countries only, lack of trust and respect amongst citizens, “no-go” areas for white people, etc. A country can not be simply a trading area, otherwise, it will not survive. There must be at a minimum cultural ties that bind us together for the common good of the country. That is rapidly fadin under mass immigraiton policies and an open border.