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		<title>By: Helen Jones-Kelley resigns - OK&#8217;d search of Joe the Plumber&#8217;s records &#171; Goodtimepolitics</title>
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		<dc:creator>Helen Jones-Kelley resigns - OK&#8217;d search of Joe the Plumber&#8217;s records &#171; Goodtimepolitics</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Dec 2008 19:30:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] (2) Whistleblower exposes the Joe the Plumber snoopers’ cover-up [...]</description>
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		<title>By: happy2behere</title>
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		<dc:creator>happy2behere</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Dec 2008 02:09:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This would be fun to watch if it weren&#039;t for the fact that the whistleblower&#039;s career is probably over.  And Joe the Plumber lost his privcy.

If Vanessa lived in Colorado I would hire her if I could.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This would be fun to watch if it weren&#8217;t for the fact that the whistleblower&#8217;s career is probably over.  And Joe the Plumber lost his privcy.</p>
<p>If Vanessa lived in Colorado I would hire her if I could.</p>
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		<title>By: Republicanvet</title>
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		<dc:creator>Republicanvet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Dec 2008 02:01:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt; On December 5th, 2008 at 8:33 am, cs89 said:

    &lt;blockquote&gt;“Both Doug and Carri can access the (child-support) system and could have accessed a file without my involvement,” Niekamp said. “To this day, I do not understand why they asked me to look at this information when they could have easily done this themselves.”&lt;/blockquote&gt;

My guess- so if this came to light, their computer records wouldn’t show the search. They knew it was wrong, and if she hadn’t blown the whistle in investigation could have ended with her being fired while they skated by in the clear.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Absolutely. Why else would he have her write an email to the IT security guy. It&#039;s likely the database has logs as to who accesses it, when, and for what.

She was very smart to speak to the IG immediately. The snakes in charge there would have fired her within a few weeks anyway to cover their tracks if this would not have become so public.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p> On December 5th, 2008 at 8:33 am, cs89 said:</p>
<blockquote><p>“Both Doug and Carri can access the (child-support) system and could have accessed a file without my involvement,” Niekamp said. “To this day, I do not understand why they asked me to look at this information when they could have easily done this themselves.”</p></blockquote>
<p>My guess- so if this came to light, their computer records wouldn’t show the search. They knew it was wrong, and if she hadn’t blown the whistle in investigation could have ended with her being fired while they skated by in the clear.</p></blockquote>
<p>Absolutely. Why else would he have her write an email to the IT security guy. It&#8217;s likely the database has logs as to who accesses it, when, and for what.</p>
<p>She was very smart to speak to the IG immediately. The snakes in charge there would have fired her within a few weeks anyway to cover their tracks if this would not have become so public.</p>
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		<title>By: Republicanvet</title>
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		<dc:creator>Republicanvet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Dec 2008 01:56:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt; On December 5th, 2008 at 7:51 am, FruNobulux said:

Sue, Joe, sue! Sue for millions and give the taxpayers of that state a good reason to clean house at the next election.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Why wait? Yes, JtP should sue, but the recall petitions should already be drawn up. The only question remaining is how many names to add to it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p> On December 5th, 2008 at 7:51 am, FruNobulux said:</p>
<p>Sue, Joe, sue! Sue for millions and give the taxpayers of that state a good reason to clean house at the next election.</p></blockquote>
<p>Why wait? Yes, JtP should sue, but the recall petitions should already be drawn up. The only question remaining is how many names to add to it.</p>
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		<title>By: Thwarted in O-hi-o &#171; Grand Rants</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thwarted in O-hi-o &#171; Grand Rants</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Dec 2008 15:20:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] are reminded that Ms. Niecamp is the woman who debunked the story being floatedat the time that it was common [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Jimmie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jimmie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Dec 2008 14:10:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Democrats only commit crimes....&quot;for the greater good&quot; and so must be excused. Rebublicans only commit crimes for the pure evil of it and so must be punished to the full extent of LAW....the Republican leadership seems to accept this as a fair &quot;ballance&quot;. Do not expect Justice, the LAW in this case will not allow it</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Democrats only commit crimes&#8230;.&#8221;for the greater good&#8221; and so must be excused. Rebublicans only commit crimes for the pure evil of it and so must be punished to the full extent of LAW&#8230;.the Republican leadership seems to accept this as a fair &#8220;ballance&#8221;. Do not expect Justice, the LAW in this case will not allow it</p>
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		<title>By: right_on</title>
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		<dc:creator>right_on</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 21:02:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;“He then told me that we needed to make sure that &lt;strong&gt;we answer questions about what happened the same way&lt;/strong&gt;, so that our versions were not different from each other.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

This is a clear case of Subornation of Perjury.

&lt;blockquote&gt;Thompson came to her office with a different explanation - that &lt;strong&gt;he, Jones-Kelley and assistant director Fred Williams &lt;/strong&gt;had requested the check.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Since the subornation of perjury is a felony, this completes the requirement for Conspiracy&lt;em&gt;...&quot;When there is a criminal conspiracy to suborn perjury, the conspirators may be prosecuted whether or not perjury has been committed.&quot;&lt;/em&gt;

Heads should roll, but they won&#039;t. These three people have one big thing in their favor...they&#039;re Democrats.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>“He then told me that we needed to make sure that <strong>we answer questions about what happened the same way</strong>, so that our versions were not different from each other.</p></blockquote>
<p>This is a clear case of Subornation of Perjury.</p>
<blockquote><p>Thompson came to her office with a different explanation &#8211; that <strong>he, Jones-Kelley and assistant director Fred Williams </strong>had requested the check.
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<p>Since the subornation of perjury is a felony, this completes the requirement for Conspiracy<em>&#8230;&#8221;When there is a criminal conspiracy to suborn perjury, the conspirators may be prosecuted whether or not perjury has been committed.&#8221;</em></p>
<p>Heads should roll, but they won&#8217;t. These three people have one big thing in their favor&#8230;they&#8217;re Democrats.</p>
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		<title>By: Southpaw</title>
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		<dc:creator>Southpaw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 20:05:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So, um, has anyone run a child support check on Mr. Doug Thompson? Just curious...didn&#039;t think so.

Maybe there is a requirement that Ohio Department of Job and Family Services’ Office of Child Support employees are given background checks of their child support status. Knowing the power of state employee unions, I would bet even money that they aren&#039;t checked.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, um, has anyone run a child support check on Mr. Doug Thompson? Just curious&#8230;didn&#8217;t think so.</p>
<p>Maybe there is a requirement that Ohio Department of Job and Family Services’ Office of Child Support employees are given background checks of their child support status. Knowing the power of state employee unions, I would bet even money that they aren&#8217;t checked.</p>
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		<title>By: fgmorley</title>
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		<dc:creator>fgmorley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 19:20:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gee, I&#039;m shocked. Now that Big media is starting their confessionals, and ACORN seems to be a non-issue, we suddenly learn about this. The dhimmis have taken us for fools because we have no clout. What we screamed about for months was conveniently swept under the rug. The Zogby poll about the education and knowledge of the Obama voters proved that. This country has gone left, and has left me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gee, I&#8217;m shocked. Now that Big media is starting their confessionals, and ACORN seems to be a non-issue, we suddenly learn about this. The dhimmis have taken us for fools because we have no clout. What we screamed about for months was conveniently swept under the rug. The Zogby poll about the education and knowledge of the Obama voters proved that. This country has gone left, and has left me.</p>
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		<title>By: Chief RZ</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chief RZ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 18:58:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a clear cut example of lies and The Truth.  Those who tell The Truth need to be rewarded and those who lie need to be punished.

Unfortunately, as has been written here and in real life, many times the opposite happens.  That is immoral and disgusting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a clear cut example of lies and The Truth.  Those who tell The Truth need to be rewarded and those who lie need to be punished.</p>
<p>Unfortunately, as has been written here and in real life, many times the opposite happens.  That is immoral and disgusting.</p>
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		<title>By: ButAsForMe! &#187; Joe the Plumber Data Dive Whistleblower Was Threatened with Firing; Media Will Likely Ignore</title>
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		<dc:creator>ButAsForMe! &#187; Joe the Plumber Data Dive Whistleblower Was Threatened with Firing; Media Will Likely Ignore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 18:44:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] story in the Dispatch this morning that should be read in full (HT Michelle Malkin) about Ms. Niekamp&#8217;s testimony before the Ohio House&#8217;s Government and Elections [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] story in the Dispatch this morning that should be read in full (HT Michelle Malkin) about Ms. Niekamp&#8217;s testimony before the Ohio House&#8217;s Government and Elections [...]</p>
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		<title>By: ButAsForMe! &#187; Joe the Plumber Data Dive Whistleblower Was Threatened with Firing; Media Will Likely Ignore</title>
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		<dc:creator>ButAsForMe! &#187; Joe the Plumber Data Dive Whistleblower Was Threatened with Firing; Media Will Likely Ignore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 18:44:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] story in the Dispatch this morning that should be read in full (HT Michelle Malkin) about Ms. Niekamp&#8217;s testimony before the Ohio House&#8217;s Government and Elections [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] story in the Dispatch this morning that should be read in full (HT Michelle Malkin) about Ms. Niekamp&#8217;s testimony before the Ohio House&#8217;s Government and Elections [...]</p>
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		<title>By: walterc</title>
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		<dc:creator>walterc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 18:41:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;TooMuchTime said:

What Joe needs to do is to file a lawsuit but make the damamges for one dollar&lt;em&gt;&lt;strong&gt;and  his tax bill paid in full&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/em&gt;. No jury would ever vote against that. He could tell the press he’s doing it for the right reasons. $1 means it’s the principle, not the money. Just make sure his lawyer handles the case like he’s a criminal prosecutor! Get it?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Might as well get something out of it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>TooMuchTime said:</p>
<p>What Joe needs to do is to file a lawsuit but make the damamges for one dollar<em><strong>and  his tax bill paid in full</strong></em>. No jury would ever vote against that. He could tell the press he’s doing it for the right reasons. $1 means it’s the principle, not the money. Just make sure his lawyer handles the case like he’s a criminal prosecutor! Get it?</p></blockquote>
<p>Might as well get something out of it.</p>
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		<title>By: RabbidSquirrel</title>
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		<dc:creator>RabbidSquirrel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 17:10:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt; On December 5th, 2008 at 8:14 am, Mercy4Me said:

Sue the socks off those idiots. You must teach people a lesson, and $$$$ talks baby.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Maybe she should sue for Toledo.... but then again, Easton would be a much more valuable commodity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p> On December 5th, 2008 at 8:14 am, Mercy4Me said:</p>
<p>Sue the socks off those idiots. You must teach people a lesson, and $$$$ talks baby.</p></blockquote>
<p>Maybe she should sue for Toledo&#8230;. but then again, Easton would be a much more valuable commodity.</p>
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		<title>By: love2rumba</title>
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		<dc:creator>love2rumba</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 17:09:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Just WHEN will the Repubs get some ballz and point out the obvious?
Wheeeeen ? ? ?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

They won&#039;t until the clear majority of their candidates and officials do so..the problem is we keep getting candidates who are already so wealthy to begin with that I think (that they think) their money covers them from harm no matter what...and this is how we end with RINOs...they just can&#039;t feel what we feel.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Just WHEN will the Repubs get some ballz and point out the obvious?<br />
Wheeeeen ? ? ?</p></blockquote>
<p>They won&#8217;t until the clear majority of their candidates and officials do so..the problem is we keep getting candidates who are already so wealthy to begin with that I think (that they think) their money covers them from harm no matter what&#8230;and this is how we end with RINOs&#8230;they just can&#8217;t feel what we feel.</p>
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