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	<title>Comments on: We Suck 2.0: GM recycles lame apology strategy from 2003</title>
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		<title>By: GM&#8217;s Apologies Sound Vaguely Familiar&#160;&#124;&#160;The American Pundit</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2008/12/08/gm-recycles-lame-apology-strategy-from-2003/comment-page-1/#comment-571094</link>
		<dc:creator>GM&#8217;s Apologies Sound Vaguely Familiar&#160;&#124;&#160;The American Pundit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Dec 2008 21:03:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Motors, in an attempt to get the American people onboard with the $34 billion bailout request, published a multi-page letter to the American taxpayers apologizing for being such a crappy company. Here&#8217;s a sample, but [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Sister Toldjah</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sister Toldjah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2008 15:11:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;AP: Deal reached on auto bailout - &#8220;in principle&#8221;...&lt;/strong&gt;

Outside of the continuing wave of Blago news, this is the big story.
This parody ad of the Big 3 pretty much sums up my thoughts on the whole pathetic, preventable story.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>AP: Deal reached on auto bailout &#8211; &#8220;in principle&#8221;&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>Outside of the continuing wave of Blago news, this is the big story.<br />
This parody ad of the Big 3 pretty much sums up my thoughts on the whole pathetic, preventable story.<br />
&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: TooMuchTime</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2008/12/08/gm-recycles-lame-apology-strategy-from-2003/comment-page-1/#comment-567255</link>
		<dc:creator>TooMuchTime</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 21:41:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Did General Mess-up use this same strategy after inflicting the Corvair and Vega on unsuspecting buyers?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

&lt;em&gt;&lt;strong&gt;dan708&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/em&gt;, I owned a 1965 Corvair Corsa coupe (140HP) and there was nothing wrong with it that simple maintenance didn&#039;t fix. Remember, Ralph Nader doesn&#039;t drive!

On the other hand, the Vega was a piece of garbage.

The major issue here is one of quaility. From 1955 to 1973, the Big 3 really did produce some nice cars.

55-57 Bel Air - GM
67-73 Chevelle - GM
68-72 Satellite/Road Runner - Chrysler
68-72 Barracuda/Challenger - Chrysler
65-69 Mustang - Ford

You&#039;ll notice they&#039;re all muscle cars.

What happened was the OPEC (Organization to Pilfer Every Cent) oil embargo in 1974. Smaller, fuel efficient foreign cars fit the bill while the &lt;em&gt;Big 3&lt;/em&gt; became the &lt;em&gt;Insignificant 3&lt;/em&gt;. They tried to work with the UAW which just sucked the money out of the automakers. When Nissan opened a plant in Tennessee, it was &lt;em&gt;without&lt;/em&gt; union labor. That&#039;s why they opened it there! The UAW screamed foul but the american car &lt;em&gt;&lt;strong&gt;buyer&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/em&gt; saw the low cost and quality and made the &lt;em&gt;capitalist&lt;/em&gt; decision; vote with your wallet.

I own two Toyotas. But being 6&#039;4&quot;, I&#039;d like something that fits ME. I was thinking of buying an Impala. However, if the government bails them out, I&#039;ll buy another foreign car. The quality will drop even further as the gov&#039;t buys adds in all the automotive trade rags to blow smoke up our @sses about how great the new gov&#039;t cars are.

Think Lada or Yugo. Great cars!  NOT!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Did General Mess-up use this same strategy after inflicting the Corvair and Vega on unsuspecting buyers?</p></blockquote>
<p><em><strong>dan708</strong></em>, I owned a 1965 Corvair Corsa coupe (140HP) and there was nothing wrong with it that simple maintenance didn&#8217;t fix. Remember, Ralph Nader doesn&#8217;t drive!</p>
<p>On the other hand, the Vega was a piece of garbage.</p>
<p>The major issue here is one of quaility. From 1955 to 1973, the Big 3 really did produce some nice cars.</p>
<p>55-57 Bel Air &#8211; GM<br />
67-73 Chevelle &#8211; GM<br />
68-72 Satellite/Road Runner &#8211; Chrysler<br />
68-72 Barracuda/Challenger &#8211; Chrysler<br />
65-69 Mustang &#8211; Ford</p>
<p>You&#8217;ll notice they&#8217;re all muscle cars.</p>
<p>What happened was the OPEC (Organization to Pilfer Every Cent) oil embargo in 1974. Smaller, fuel efficient foreign cars fit the bill while the <em>Big 3</em> became the <em>Insignificant 3</em>. They tried to work with the UAW which just sucked the money out of the automakers. When Nissan opened a plant in Tennessee, it was <em>without</em> union labor. That&#8217;s why they opened it there! The UAW screamed foul but the american car <em><strong>buyer</strong></em> saw the low cost and quality and made the <em>capitalist</em> decision; vote with your wallet.</p>
<p>I own two Toyotas. But being 6&#8242;4&#8243;, I&#8217;d like something that fits ME. I was thinking of buying an Impala. However, if the government bails them out, I&#8217;ll buy another foreign car. The quality will drop even further as the gov&#8217;t buys adds in all the automotive trade rags to blow smoke up our @sses about how great the new gov&#8217;t cars are.</p>
<p>Think Lada or Yugo. Great cars!  NOT!</p>
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		<title>By: Michelle Malkin &#187; We interrupt Blago-palooza for a UAW bailout update</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michelle Malkin &#187; We interrupt Blago-palooza for a UAW bailout update</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 20:36:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Remind your Senators and congressmen that GM made a lame apology and empty promises before. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: dan708</title>
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		<dc:creator>dan708</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 18:36:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Did General Mess-up use this same strategy after inflicting the Corvair and Vega on unsuspecting buyers?</description>
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		<title>By: ArizonaNeanderthal</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2008/12/08/gm-recycles-lame-apology-strategy-from-2003/comment-page-1/#comment-566851</link>
		<dc:creator>ArizonaNeanderthal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 18:32:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;brianod1&lt;/strong&gt;, very good. I was just commenting on how I thought they should do it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>brianod1</strong>, very good. I was just commenting on how I thought they should do it.</p>
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		<title>By: brianod1</title>
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		<dc:creator>brianod1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 17:29:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;ArizonaNeanderthal&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;, I wasn&#039;t endorsing the bailout, just pointing out that all three companies aren&#039;t the same, and that part of this is most definitely not of their making.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>ArizonaNeanderthal</strong><em>, I wasn&#8217;t endorsing the bailout, just pointing out that all three companies aren&#8217;t the same, and that part of this is most definitely not of their making.</em></p>
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		<title>By: ArizonaNeanderthal</title>
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		<dc:creator>ArizonaNeanderthal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 17:22:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That is good &lt;strong&gt;brianod1&lt;/strong&gt; and if that is true- Chrysler not cooking the books- I hope they find the capital. But not taxpayer capital with a Federal government fiscal interest in the company.
I know the Europeans do it. But we are not Europeans and I for one do not wish to live in a European style nanny state.

What we are asked to do is pick up the Legacy Costs of the UAW agreements plus lazy ass management. If we do there will be no reason for Detroit to get their heads out and do what they need to do--build cars we want at a price we are willing to pay-once.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That is good <strong>brianod1</strong> and if that is true- Chrysler not cooking the books- I hope they find the capital. But not taxpayer capital with a Federal government fiscal interest in the company.<br />
I know the Europeans do it. But we are not Europeans and I for one do not wish to live in a European style nanny state.</p>
<p>What we are asked to do is pick up the Legacy Costs of the UAW agreements plus lazy ass management. If we do there will be no reason for Detroit to get their heads out and do what they need to do&#8211;build cars we want at a price we are willing to pay-once.</p>
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		<title>By: NBF</title>
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		<dc:creator>NBF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 17:20:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BOYCOTT BAILOUT RECIPIENTS.</description>
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		<title>By: brianod1</title>
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		<dc:creator>brianod1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 17:03:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For the record I&#039;m a semi-regular poster, not a shill for Chrysler or the domestic auto companies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For the record I&#8217;m a semi-regular poster, not a shill for Chrysler or the domestic auto companies.</p>
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		<title>By: brianod1</title>
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		<dc:creator>brianod1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 16:48:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All the companies aren&#039;t being run the same way - check out this from Chrysler LLC - it seems like they at least get it:

# The first question is, what changes has Chrysler made to help itself? Since Chrysler became an independent company in 2007:

    * We eliminated over 1.2 million units of capacity, or 30 percent;
    * We reduced fixed costs by $2.4 billion and, separated over 32,000 employees – including 5,000 on the Wednesday before Thanksgiving. And at the same time …
    * We invested in product improvements – over half a billion dollars in our first 60 days
    * We improved our latest JD Power quality scores, and reduced our warranty claims by 29 percent; Part of our business model transformation includes alliances and partnerships – for example – the agreements to produce vehicles for VW and for Nissan. As a result, through the first six months of the year, Chrysler met or exceeded our operating plan, ending the first half with $9.4 billion unrestricted cash.

# Why does Chrysler need the funding? We need to address the unprecedented drop in vehicle sales caused by the financial crisis. U.S. sales are down from a 17 million unit selling rate in early 2007, to an estimated 11 million unit selling rate for the fourth quarter of 2008 – a 38 percent decline. We lost 20 percent of our sales virtually overnight when the financial market crisis forced us out of the consumer lease business. With customers not buying … with dealers not ordering … with our plants not producing … Chrysler’s cash inflow has suffered.
# So how will the bridge loan be used? Cash will support ongoing operations as we continue to restructure the business, including in the first quarter alone:

    * $8.0 billion in payments to parts suppliers $1.2 billion for other vendors
    * $900 million in wages
    * $500 million in healthcare and legacy costs
    * $500 million in capital expenditures</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All the companies aren&#8217;t being run the same way &#8211; check out this from Chrysler LLC &#8211; it seems like they at least get it:</p>
<p># The first question is, what changes has Chrysler made to help itself? Since Chrysler became an independent company in 2007:</p>
<p>    * We eliminated over 1.2 million units of capacity, or 30 percent;<br />
    * We reduced fixed costs by $2.4 billion and, separated over 32,000 employees – including 5,000 on the Wednesday before Thanksgiving. And at the same time …<br />
    * We invested in product improvements – over half a billion dollars in our first 60 days<br />
    * We improved our latest JD Power quality scores, and reduced our warranty claims by 29 percent; Part of our business model transformation includes alliances and partnerships – for example – the agreements to produce vehicles for VW and for Nissan. As a result, through the first six months of the year, Chrysler met or exceeded our operating plan, ending the first half with $9.4 billion unrestricted cash.</p>
<p># Why does Chrysler need the funding? We need to address the unprecedented drop in vehicle sales caused by the financial crisis. U.S. sales are down from a 17 million unit selling rate in early 2007, to an estimated 11 million unit selling rate for the fourth quarter of 2008 – a 38 percent decline. We lost 20 percent of our sales virtually overnight when the financial market crisis forced us out of the consumer lease business. With customers not buying … with dealers not ordering … with our plants not producing … Chrysler’s cash inflow has suffered.<br />
# So how will the bridge loan be used? Cash will support ongoing operations as we continue to restructure the business, including in the first quarter alone:</p>
<p>    * $8.0 billion in payments to parts suppliers $1.2 billion for other vendors<br />
    * $900 million in wages<br />
    * $500 million in healthcare and legacy costs<br />
    * $500 million in capital expenditures</p>
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		<title>By: ArizonaNeanderthal</title>
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		<dc:creator>ArizonaNeanderthal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 16:47:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;But Ford wants to argue.&lt;/em&gt;

Fortunately we have had one bad car; unfortunately we never could get Ford to own up to it-they kept arguing with us. Damn Ford Granada did keep running I must admit that. Windows opened and closed when that wanted, same with the doors. Mirrors would not hold position, seats came apart-and Ford argued. The paint job made the car look like it had a disease. And Ford argued.
Being who I am I still drive American-my wife and kids all drive Japanese or BMWs.
I now have a 2004 Town Car-Rear Wheel Drive thank you- and a 2005 F-150 and they are excellent. But I want to pay for them ONCE.
But Ford wants to argue.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>But Ford wants to argue.</em></p>
<p>Fortunately we have had one bad car; unfortunately we never could get Ford to own up to it-they kept arguing with us. Damn Ford Granada did keep running I must admit that. Windows opened and closed when that wanted, same with the doors. Mirrors would not hold position, seats came apart-and Ford argued. The paint job made the car look like it had a disease. And Ford argued.<br />
Being who I am I still drive American-my wife and kids all drive Japanese or BMWs.<br />
I now have a 2004 Town Car-Rear Wheel Drive thank you- and a 2005 F-150 and they are excellent. But I want to pay for them ONCE.<br />
But Ford wants to argue.</p>
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		<title>By: Gorebot</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gorebot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 16:29:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can&#039;t wait to get my hands on the 2009 Pelosi Crossover.

After getting all my shots, I&#039;m gonna ride that burned-out husk of a Barbie doll into the ground!

After those 10 minutes are up, time to go hit up Obama for my &quot;failed expectations&quot; bailout!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t wait to get my hands on the 2009 Pelosi Crossover.</p>
<p>After getting all my shots, I&#8217;m gonna ride that burned-out husk of a Barbie doll into the ground!</p>
<p>After those 10 minutes are up, time to go hit up Obama for my &#8220;failed expectations&#8221; bailout!</p>
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		<title>By: Gorebot</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gorebot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 16:15:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So, it looks like Japan is winning WWII after all!

Iraq will likely be doing the same in the financial industry 50 years from now.

Bad management + bad unions + virulently punitive and systemically incompetent government = FAILURE!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, it looks like Japan is winning WWII after all!</p>
<p>Iraq will likely be doing the same in the financial industry 50 years from now.</p>
<p>Bad management + bad unions + virulently punitive and systemically incompetent government = FAILURE!</p>
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		<title>By: Mach1Duck</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mach1Duck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 16:15:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You think Detroit cannot make a good automobile, just wait until the design comes out of Washington.  The Auto-Industry cannot hire and keep good engineers, Washington never had any.
Throw the bums out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You think Detroit cannot make a good automobile, just wait until the design comes out of Washington.  The Auto-Industry cannot hire and keep good engineers, Washington never had any.<br />
Throw the bums out.</p>
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