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	<title>Comments on: Late-night shenanigans on the Hill: UAW bailout watch; Update: Union negotiations fall apart. Good! Headed for cloture; Final vote: 52-35. FAIL!</title>
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		<title>By: Michelle Malkin &#187; Sen. Bunning and the unemployment benefits debate revisited</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michelle Malkin &#187; Sen. Bunning and the unemployment benefits debate revisited</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Mar 2010 18:42:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] to vote against the TARP crap sandwich in October 2008. He voted against the UAW/auto bailout in December 2008. He was one of the fiscally responsible 14 GOP Senators who voted against the $6 billion GIVE/SERVE [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] to vote against the TARP crap sandwich in October 2008. He voted against the UAW/auto bailout in December 2008. He was one of the fiscally responsible 14 GOP Senators who voted against the $6 billion GIVE/SERVE [...]</p>
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		<title>By: The Automotive Bailouts: The Other Side of the Story &#124; Political Byline</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Automotive Bailouts: The Other Side of the Story &#124; Political Byline</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Dec 2008 06:16:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] to keep out of this. But I have sat and looked at the Republican and Neo-Conservative Spin on this Story and I&#8217;m sick of [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] to keep out of this. But I have sat and looked at the Republican and Neo-Conservative Spin on this Story and I&#8217;m sick of [...]</p>
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		<title>By: PIÑATA-CAR (AKA Auto Bailout) &#171; FactReal</title>
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		<dc:creator>PIÑATA-CAR (AKA Auto Bailout) &#171; FactReal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Dec 2008 03:07:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] LATEST   See how your Representatives voted: (great work from MichelleMalkin.com) ● House: House passes UAW bailout 237-170. Check how you Congressmen voted  ● Senate: Final roll call vote on the UAW bailout. Final vote: 52-35. FAIL! [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] LATEST   See how your Representatives voted: (great work from MichelleMalkin.com) ● House: House passes UAW bailout 237-170. Check how you Congressmen voted  ● Senate: Final roll call vote on the UAW bailout. Final vote: 52-35. FAIL! [...]</p>
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		<title>By: President Bush Still A RINO on The Automakers Bailout &#171; Jane Q. Republican</title>
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		<dc:creator>President Bush Still A RINO on The Automakers Bailout &#171; Jane Q. Republican</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2008 19:32:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] President should be lending them and their constituents his support instead of earning the praise of Democrat Chris Dodd and his fellow supporters of auto industry [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] President should be lending them and their constituents his support instead of earning the praise of Democrat Chris Dodd and his fellow supporters of auto industry [...]</p>
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		<title>By: cheapseat</title>
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		<dc:creator>cheapseat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2008 16:53:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>looks like cerburus will have to use it&#039;s money for the next month to prop up chrysler, and gm should be bought by the uaw at close of business today so they can show us how to make the program work.  48 months of 72% unemployment for all laid off workers and then they go into a pool to get the next uaw job available. not even the government can print up money enough to cover that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>looks like cerburus will have to use it&#8217;s money for the next month to prop up chrysler, and gm should be bought by the uaw at close of business today so they can show us how to make the program work.  48 months of 72% unemployment for all laid off workers and then they go into a pool to get the next uaw job available. not even the government can print up money enough to cover that.</p>
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		<title>By: MtsEdge</title>
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		<dc:creator>MtsEdge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2008 14:32:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Babs Mikulski calls for order&lt;/blockquote&gt;

In all her years in the Senate, that&#039;s all she can produce???

MD Senators = worthless</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Babs Mikulski calls for order</p></blockquote>
<p>In all her years in the Senate, that&#8217;s all she can produce???</p>
<p>MD Senators = worthless</p>
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		<title>By: RockyR</title>
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		<dc:creator>RockyR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2008 14:26:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;“No. We’re not propping up companies. That’s your mistake,” he tells Stahl, who had asked him about taxpayer money going to prop up companies that had made bad decisions. “We’re propping up individuals. The world doesn’t consist of companies. The world is people. The country is people.”&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Wow. Was he quoting Atlas Shrugged?

To MarcoPolo:  I agree with you about not wanting riots.  I&#039;m much more for the peaceful protest in DC.  However, as one Senator recently put it, people will start rioting when they lose their jobs while watching other, politically connected groups receive tax dollars to keep failing and sit on their ass.

We need a leader to arise from the mess and lead a peaceful revolution.  The time just hasn&#039;t come, yet.  People won&#039;t listen right now.  A lot of us on here are still being derided as the &quot;lunatic fringe&quot; for thinking this bailout mess is going to ruin the country.  Our economy and society will have to regress to a much greater state of breakdown and decay before someone can emerge on the kind of message we need: slashing government, eliminating entitlements, standing up for life and liberty...

Gird your loins.  Gird your loins, indeed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>“No. We’re not propping up companies. That’s your mistake,” he tells Stahl, who had asked him about taxpayer money going to prop up companies that had made bad decisions. “We’re propping up individuals. The world doesn’t consist of companies. The world is people. The country is people.”</p></blockquote>
<p>Wow. Was he quoting Atlas Shrugged?</p>
<p>To MarcoPolo:  I agree with you about not wanting riots.  I&#8217;m much more for the peaceful protest in DC.  However, as one Senator recently put it, people will start rioting when they lose their jobs while watching other, politically connected groups receive tax dollars to keep failing and sit on their ass.</p>
<p>We need a leader to arise from the mess and lead a peaceful revolution.  The time just hasn&#8217;t come, yet.  People won&#8217;t listen right now.  A lot of us on here are still being derided as the &#8220;lunatic fringe&#8221; for thinking this bailout mess is going to ruin the country.  Our economy and society will have to regress to a much greater state of breakdown and decay before someone can emerge on the kind of message we need: slashing government, eliminating entitlements, standing up for life and liberty&#8230;</p>
<p>Gird your loins.  Gird your loins, indeed.</p>
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		<title>By: Michelle Malkin &#187; Final roll call vote on the UAW bailout</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michelle Malkin &#187; Final roll call vote on the UAW bailout</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2008 14:11:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] up on all the late-night shenanigans here if you missed my liveblogging last [...]</description>
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		<title>By: ArizonaNeanderthal</title>
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		<dc:creator>ArizonaNeanderthal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2008 13:36:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From the &lt;em&gt;We Are Here, We are Queer, Let&#039;s Dance&lt;/em&gt; lobby--ie: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/12/11/60minutes/main4663945.shtml&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Barney Frank&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&quot;No. We’re not propping up companies. That’s your mistake,&quot; he tells Stahl, who had asked him about taxpayer money going to prop up companies that had made bad decisions. &quot;We’re propping up individuals. The world doesn&#039;t consist of companies. The world is people. The country is people.&quot;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

He did not state if the Car Czar would mandate all new cars be purple and pink. They will all have an AIDS awareness ribbon, the radio will be permanently set to NPR and there will be no Right Turn signal.
&lt;blockquote&gt;It is mind boggling that the union refuses to cut the employee’s wages to reasonable levels, but instead will cause them to lose their jobs
&lt;/blockquote&gt;Studebaker.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From the <em>We Are Here, We are Queer, Let&#8217;s Dance</em> lobby&#8211;ie: <a href="http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/12/11/60minutes/main4663945.shtml" rel="nofollow">Barney Frank</a></p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;No. We’re not propping up companies. That’s your mistake,&#8221; he tells Stahl, who had asked him about taxpayer money going to prop up companies that had made bad decisions. &#8220;We’re propping up individuals. The world doesn&#8217;t consist of companies. The world is people. The country is people.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>He did not state if the Car Czar would mandate all new cars be purple and pink. They will all have an AIDS awareness ribbon, the radio will be permanently set to NPR and there will be no Right Turn signal.</p>
<blockquote><p>It is mind boggling that the union refuses to cut the employee’s wages to reasonable levels, but instead will cause them to lose their jobs
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<p>Studebaker.</p>
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		<title>By: 30 pcs of silver</title>
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		<dc:creator>30 pcs of silver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2008 12:57:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;The auto industry hasn’t put forth a satisfactory plan to fix their situation. That’s the main issue. I don’t think people are happy about the lay offs, but Bank of America annouced plans to lay off 35,000 people yesterday and that’s after the government promised $700 billion in funds to their industry! What is $15 billion going to fix in a mis-managed manufacturing company? &lt;/blockquote&gt;

B o A&#039;s reduction in workforce by 35000 has more to do with the merger with Merrill Lynch and eliminating redundant positions than it does the bailout. However, I take your point that the current restructuring and layoffs across many sectors is inevitable in a recessed economy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>The auto industry hasn’t put forth a satisfactory plan to fix their situation. That’s the main issue. I don’t think people are happy about the lay offs, but Bank of America annouced plans to lay off 35,000 people yesterday and that’s after the government promised $700 billion in funds to their industry! What is $15 billion going to fix in a mis-managed manufacturing company? </p></blockquote>
<p>B o A&#8217;s reduction in workforce by 35000 has more to do with the merger with Merrill Lynch and eliminating redundant positions than it does the bailout. However, I take your point that the current restructuring and layoffs across many sectors is inevitable in a recessed economy.</p>
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		<title>By: EdDantes</title>
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		<dc:creator>EdDantes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2008 12:28:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>GM and Chrysler executives will have to grow a pair and figure out a way to do away with the UAW Union for good.  Unions were a necessary force in an era of small governement with little oversight, but we have enough oversight now to make certain that GM and Chrysler aren&#039;t employing children and we have state and federal minimum wage requirements as well.

And bluesoc, why should I have to bail out greedy union workers who can&#039;t see the forest for the trees?  Their refusal to negotiate is going to cause all of them to LOSE THEIR OWN JOBS!

The US is in the perilous economic situation because of bad risk management practices, i.e. lending money to people who couldn&#039;t pay.

If you had a neighbor who was constantly late on bills and mortgage payments because they mismanage their money, would you lend them money and expect it back?  Even more, would you expect them to pay it back w/ a return?

The auto industry hasn&#039;t put forth a satisfactory plan to fix their situation.  That&#039;s the main issue.  I don&#039;t think people are happy about the lay offs, but Bank of America annouced plans to lay off 35,000 people yesterday and that&#039;s after the government promised $700 billion in funds to their industry!  What is $15 billion going to fix in a mis-managed manufacturing company?   

You can&#039;t put out a fire by throwing money on it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>GM and Chrysler executives will have to grow a pair and figure out a way to do away with the UAW Union for good.  Unions were a necessary force in an era of small governement with little oversight, but we have enough oversight now to make certain that GM and Chrysler aren&#8217;t employing children and we have state and federal minimum wage requirements as well.</p>
<p>And bluesoc, why should I have to bail out greedy union workers who can&#8217;t see the forest for the trees?  Their refusal to negotiate is going to cause all of them to LOSE THEIR OWN JOBS!</p>
<p>The US is in the perilous economic situation because of bad risk management practices, i.e. lending money to people who couldn&#8217;t pay.</p>
<p>If you had a neighbor who was constantly late on bills and mortgage payments because they mismanage their money, would you lend them money and expect it back?  Even more, would you expect them to pay it back w/ a return?</p>
<p>The auto industry hasn&#8217;t put forth a satisfactory plan to fix their situation.  That&#8217;s the main issue.  I don&#8217;t think people are happy about the lay offs, but Bank of America annouced plans to lay off 35,000 people yesterday and that&#8217;s after the government promised $700 billion in funds to their industry!  What is $15 billion going to fix in a mis-managed manufacturing company?   </p>
<p>You can&#8217;t put out a fire by throwing money on it.</p>
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		<title>By: happyscrapper</title>
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		<dc:creator>happyscrapper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2008 12:05:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;On December 12th, 2008 at 12:15 am, tarpon said: Without UAW labor cost reductions, the issue of sustainability cannot be overcome. Doesn’t everyone see that the UAW and their crippling contracts and work rules has built an unsustainable house of cards.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
It is mind boggling that the union refuses to cut the employee&#039;s wages to reasonable levels, but instead will cause them to lose their jobs.  This is nuts.  I wonder what the actual employees think of all this.  Wouldn&#039;t you be willing to take a pay cut if it meant staying employed??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>On December 12th, 2008 at 12:15 am, tarpon said: Without UAW labor cost reductions, the issue of sustainability cannot be overcome. Doesn’t everyone see that the UAW and their crippling contracts and work rules has built an unsustainable house of cards.</p></blockquote>
<p>It is mind boggling that the union refuses to cut the employee&#8217;s wages to reasonable levels, but instead will cause them to lose their jobs.  This is nuts.  I wonder what the actual employees think of all this.  Wouldn&#8217;t you be willing to take a pay cut if it meant staying employed??</p>
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		<title>By: wild thing2</title>
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		<dc:creator>wild thing2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2008 11:14:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank God the Republicans, some of them anyway, finally got their spin back.</description>
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		<title>By: graysonret</title>
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		<dc:creator>graysonret</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2008 10:36:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When one is worried over the economy, one goes to the polls and votes in a &quot;traditional spender&quot;.  Apparently, that&#039;s what a lot of people did.  They believed in, (what Goebbels once said, &quot;Tell a lie enough times, and it becomes the truth&quot;), the constant barrage of negativism by the MSM. Expect the early &#039;30s once again, as we go from a mild recession down into a major depression, because of politician interference, for their own self-interest. It didn&#039;t work back then, and it won&#039;t work today.  Of course, once it becomes obvious that they &quot;screwed up&quot;, scapegoats will be found everywhere. Because of the ignorance and apathy of the American people, they will believe the politicians.  I still read comments elsewhere that some people still think the Republicans control congress, and the President runs everything. Prediction: If Obama wins again in 2012, expect a movement by congress to repeal the 22nd amendment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When one is worried over the economy, one goes to the polls and votes in a &#8220;traditional spender&#8221;.  Apparently, that&#8217;s what a lot of people did.  They believed in, (what Goebbels once said, &#8220;Tell a lie enough times, and it becomes the truth&#8221;), the constant barrage of negativism by the MSM. Expect the early &#8217;30s once again, as we go from a mild recession down into a major depression, because of politician interference, for their own self-interest. It didn&#8217;t work back then, and it won&#8217;t work today.  Of course, once it becomes obvious that they &#8220;screwed up&#8221;, scapegoats will be found everywhere. Because of the ignorance and apathy of the American people, they will believe the politicians.  I still read comments elsewhere that some people still think the Republicans control congress, and the President runs everything. Prediction: If Obama wins again in 2012, expect a movement by congress to repeal the 22nd amendment.</p>
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		<title>By: Biker_George</title>
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		<dc:creator>Biker_George</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2008 09:19:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>my biggest fear is the US goverment!!!!

They do not care about any thing execpt what the can steal from the people!

I pay my bills on time evereytime but if I have no money I don&#039;t spend/buy anything, the US goverment is out for its self</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>my biggest fear is the US goverment!!!!</p>
<p>They do not care about any thing execpt what the can steal from the people!</p>
<p>I pay my bills on time evereytime but if I have no money I don&#8217;t spend/buy anything, the US goverment is out for its self</p>
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