No TARP money for UAW bailout: It’s illegal
Dear President Bush:
We repeat: No means no.
And the law is the law.
No TARP money for the UAW bailout.
It’s illegal.
Stop the bailout cycle.
Follow the law.
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Since when has “legality” ever stopped the criminal idiots in Washington DC?
Pitchfork time; it’s a comin”’…
Hoisted by their own peTARP
As if that makes matters…. Criminals (even the elected ones) don’t care about laws.
Oops…
As if that matters…. etc. Need more coffee.
“Waiter, I’ll have a venal, flagrantly opportunistic political whore to go, please.
What’s that, they only come in packages of 535 (minus approx 10 with actual Constitutional convictions)?
And I have to take them, or else I go to jail?
Where do I go hang myself????”
We are not bailing out the auto co’s…
It’s the UAW!!!!!!
do you think one of those “leaders” in the senate could go advise the president that this is money allocated for a specific purpose, and to reallocate that money would violate the law, and subject him to impeachment at this late date.
Its illegal AND?????
Michelle, michelle, michelle, like that has ever stoped them.
We can only wish
This is congress, it would be 6 months and 10 trillion dollars till they even convened the commitee.
Nobody is going to impeach bush now.
Foxnews is reporting that TARP funds will be used to bail out automakers.
Like who’s going to stop them?
This is only going to get worse after Jan. 20, 2009. The foundation of our country and freedom is being sold by a group of citizens and their (s)elected politicians to the government that is slowly becoming less of the people, less by the people and less for the people.
To all you liberals that like to quote Ben Franklin about those willing to sell a little liberty for security deserve neither as opposition to the Patriot Act. The selling of our property and livelyhoods is what he meant and not letting the government do its job in protecting us from all enemies foreign and domestic.
We’ve had this same problem with this same government before. It’s the exact argument about immigration, and our president cares not.
The republican senators who stopped this bill need to file a suit to prevent Bush & Paulson from circumventing their authority. They must stop this renegade government now.
STOP THE LOOTERS!!!!
Watching just long enough to avoid puking, I noticed Keith OlberIdiot last night “actually documentating” that UAW workers in American auto plants suppossedly “make less” than their non-union counterparts in foreign-owned American auto plants.
With this kind of blatantly falsified, agenda-driven “news reporting”, it’s no wonder the criminals in DC believe (rationally, perversely) that they can get away with virtually anything.
With nearly every “reporter” spinning “the facts” to fit their own agenda, it’s near impossible to know which way is up anymore.
Say it loud, say it proud – and save generations of Americans from a future of indentured servitude to China in the process!
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2008/12/12/auto-workers-union-lashes-gop-senators-bailout-collapse/
UAW and Middlefinger – Go.Pound.Sand.
If that’s true, why have a union?
Doesn’t that TARP agreement say that the Treasury Sec. can do whatever he wants with that money, basically?
Hmm. The phrase “but not limited to” likely gives enough wiggle room to permit this. I read the linked essay but am not convinced. Boil it down and it says a financial institution is any institution at all as long as it isn’t foreign-government owned. Doesn’t make much sense to be sure, but just look at the chuckleheads who write our laws.
You mean illegal like subverting the sovereign courts of the state of Florida and suberting the Supreme Court by enacting person-specific legislation in regards to Teri Shaivo?
Since when did Bush care about being on the right side of the Constitution?
Fine, you can use TARP money to bail out the 3 Stooges as soon as you tell us who has been getting the money all along. You know, that transparency thing you guys speak of so highly.
Is someone going to file suit to get an injunction that prevents the WH from using TARP money to bail out the UAW (since that’s who this is really for)?
Judicial Watch? Bueller? Anyone? Anyone?
Uh, okay, but riddle me this:
Since the executive and legislative branches have already acted unconstitutionally, why should breaking a law mean anything to them?
Especially with the Bush administration in last 5 years? Somebody needs to make Bush/Bheney/Paulson read some book on true conservatism.
The UAW gravy train, driven by their President Ron Middlefinger, has finally run out of track; The TARP money will not help them because they are unwilling to make real concessions; Remember, they are a cross between a scorpion and a vampire bat; Like a scorpion, they paralyze a company in their day to day operations and in their short and long term business planning, and then, like a vampire bat, they bleed the company dry; I urge President Bush to forego another trip down this rat hole of a bailout.
Since when has a law made any difference to anyone in Washington since, I dunno, the Reagan administration? Washington politicians haven’t even bothered with the Constitution too much (Social Security, talk of universal health care) except when they want a fig leaf, since FDR.
Riiiiiiiggggghhhhhtttt. Because we stupidly cling to patriotism and cant see that you are an idiot. Bad policies, politicians and taxes deserve to be thrown out when it is against the public good.
Patriotism is for the good of the country. But it is not to be used as a cure all for idiot politicians to salvage their careers or to plung us deeper into an economic hell worse than natural forces will lead us to.
And once all of this is cleared up or as part of our economic overhaul, we need to go after the “un-american” politicians and judges that corrupted our imminent domain rights also.
Jenni Granholm is the economic wunderkind whose big idea for reviving Michigan’s economy was “Cool Cities.”
i.e.,If only Detroit had enough trendy coffee bars, prosperity would follow.
Never mind that Detroit can’t even keep any supermarkets open inside the city limits.
Would you want to buy from a UAW-staffed coffee bar? Your coffee would come to you cold, forty minutes late, cost $40 a cup, and they’d spit in it.
Real economic genius, Michigan governor Granholm. And the people of Michigan proved their own genius by re-electing her.
The bailout itself was also illegal.
Didn’t see it stopping the congresscritters from trying it.
Americans need to do their part in enforcing the law.
RWR
http://www.rightwingrocker.com
Excuse me? You and yours decided to allow Bush decide which parts of the Constitution applied to him. If freedom needed rescinded, then he should have had the cajones to actually change the law instead of only interpreting it favorably to support imperlialstic goals. *That’s* the true liberal approach. Far right conservatives like me favor a strict interpretation – it is the liberals that favor the “living document” approach.
Congratulations, Dr Frankenstein – it’s alive. And, your about to hand control to the Democrats.
Told you it was a bad idea.
If only the whole country knew what Michiganders know: that Jenny Granholm is a useless joke. Nobody has a lesser grasp of economics than this dimwit. Same old liberal bleeding heart propaganda.
My read was that Michigan would consider a depression a step up. Their govenor has already taken them through the worse.
No TARP money for UAW bailout: It’s illegal
You think a small thing like illegality will stop this?
What law? Do you see a law? Well, we just ignore those laws, they’re for the little people to follow.
Michelle, I’d never choose to argue semantics with you. You are the most well spoken firebrand I’ve seen in a very long time. However, I think Heritage missed it…
Heritage,
I’d love to applaud your catch, but you failed to recognize the 4 most important words of that paragraph — ‘…but not limited to’. Looking very carefully at the definition, a financial institution can include anything in the list, or anything else Emperor Paulson and friends can dream up. There are no limits! Sleep with one eye open America, trust NO ONE.
You would also have to fill out a request form when you order the coffee and wait for the request to be approved by a safety committee.
As stated above “who’s going to stop ‘em”?
The Big3: poorly managed for decades, including union negotiations with UAW.
The Answer: Bankruptcy Chapter 11
get rid of current management and get drastic union concessions , restructure debit….tax payers saved, the way it should be done. Or go out of business.
Typical demcrap scare tactic, “they’ll go out of business”, not if they take out bankruptcy.
THE BAILOUT IS COMING, FOLKS.
No use in trying to fight.
They should restructure without the unions. Offer existing employees a compensation package more in line with the marketplace. No more bloated pensions or job banks. Pass off the bloated UAW pension obligations to the fed pension trust fund and let the feds cut it back.
Take it or leave it.
We would all enjoy Mr. Marco Polo pointing to instances supporting his claim that Bush decided which parts of the Constitution “applied to him” and not to other American citizens. And vice versa.
We also eagerly await his explanation as to why the Democratic Congress didn’t use legislation to thwart Bush’s illegal and unconstitutional power grab, or just impeach him and be done with him.
My guess is, he knows he is blowing smoke.
Well said fulldroolcup
Promise to boycott all bailout recipients.
It might make them a little less eager to stick their hand out and stick it to the taxpayer.
I couldn’t disagree more. Fight, fight, fight. Never give up. Sometimes the fight is the thing.
Even a futile effort is commendable if for the right cause. Think of Holland resisting a German invasion. Should they have just submitted? I say no.
In the new socialist America, they’ll just come back for another bailout a little quicker…no consequences for poor business practices.
Sorry Bruce, but I’ll take my lead from Winston Churchill:
America is leaderless.
If 100% of the American people opposed this bailout Bush and Congress will still do it. They won’t let a small detail about “legality” get in the way of bankrupting the nation.
I LOVE the irony of a bankrupt nation offering to bailout 3 almost bankrupt auto companies and then claiming moral authority to tell them how to run their business. Is this a George Orwell novel?
This is just a new form of welfare. Nothing more. The government is going to rape the taxpayers of every last penny and give it away to undeserving morons who suffer from Entitlement Syndrome. The UAW bailout is nothing less. The companies are failing and not able to pay the paychecks of the grossly overpaid UAW members, so now it’s going to be up to the taxpayer to pay the grossly overpaid UAW members.
One thing that has gone unmentioned over the weeks leading to this is that Japanese and Korean car makers are allowed to build plants here and employ nonunion labor to effectively undercut the Big Three. Yet, the Big Three are not allowed to build nonunion plants in Japan or Korea, whose governments protect their own manufacturing bases. Shouldn’t we be demanding reciprocity here, especially since us taxpayers footed the bill for postwar reconstruction in both countries? And don’t tell me that our cars wouldn’t sell over there because they are inferior to the local products. That’s a crock. Globalization and free trade may have enriched a few politically connected tycoons, but they have caused only grief for the rest of us. Instead of free trade, we should be demanding fair trade.
“He has all the virtues I dislike and none of the vices I admire.”
— Winston Churchill
Holy Guacamole! Whose side is President Bush on? We’ve spent years trying to support this guy and this is how he treats us in the end?
Illegal still means illegal even if it doesn’t apply to illegal alien this time.
Wait for your “representatives” (and I use that term tongue in cheek these days) to work over the weekend to declare the big 3 as financial institutions. Totally out of control.
Each week becomes more and more unbelievable.
They’ve already accomplished that with the first $7 trillion in debt. What’s next?
MM and conservatives have been chearing for Bush (and before him Reagan) lawbreaking — illegal wiretapping, secrecy, torture, … . How quaint that they now urge him to follow the law. As you sew . . . .
So, let’s get this straight. Bush gets the FISA bill approved (and Obama votes FOR it) to authorize wiretapping but it is somehow illegal…
And Bush keeps “secrets” from us. I would ask lgm to tell us what secrets Bush is keeping but I guess we can’t know that because they are “secrets.” Funny, but I wonder if lgm was as concerned about “secrets” in the Clinton years. Of course Clinton’s lies under oath probably outnumber the secrets he kept by a large factor.
This kind of “reason” could only come from the “tortured mind” of lgm…
And who was it that you cheered for, lgm?
We have a problem with real lawbreaking, not bogus, BDS-induced liberal claims of lawbreaking. We have a problem with REAL torture, not pansy-assed “my soup is cold-where’s my Koran” liberal torture. And secrecy…is secrecy against the law?
By the way, aren’t you a teacher? Learn to spell, moron. You’re dumbing down your students enough as it is.
What a novel idea.
Bush surpassed Carter as the worst President of my life span back when he was force feeding us amnesty. This just solidifies his distinction.
The truly sad part is that not only did he butcher the office, he destroyed the Republican party and conservatism. I loathe the man.
#60- The descendants of James Buchanan would agree with you.
Bush deserves every bit of his low approval rating. He has betrayed conservatives everywhere.
At least McCain did not get in there to finish the job.
Seriously Michelle, what country do you think you’re living in?
If you said America, you’re wrong. America is dead! Some socialists came along, killed it, and assumed its name.
I spent years rejecting the liberal line that George Bush was either evil, retarded, or both.
Turns out they were right. For all the wrong reasons; but, nevertheless, they were right.
President Bush is trying to insure his “Legacy” by trying to avoid being in office when the Big 3, and the banks, and AIG, etc., etc. go bust.
He’s insuring his legacy alright. He’ll be remembered by history not as the man who fought terror and liberated two nations — but as the single worst president EVER. He’ll be remembered (by me, at least) as “The Man Who Killed America”.
I just voted for this man, and I agree with you. This is the sad state of our national affairs.
UAW bailout? Awesome. They’re more like the sports agents of industry, more concerned with getting their clients the most lucrative deal over the good of the actual team.
I hate to say it, but based on the language cited on the Heritage Foundation, I don’t think it’s illegal.
The statute lists the types of institutions they had in mind (banks, credit unions, etc.), but specifically note that it is NOT limited to just those.
I don’t think they’ll have much legal trouble on this one.
The law hasn’t stopped him until now. And he’s on his way out. What does he have to lose?
This is a really bad case of asking Mom after Dad said no. I really hate it when my kids try that garbage; yet this makes all their attempts pale in comparison.
I sure do miss my old constitution. I haven’t seen it for years. Some one said it ran away by itself. Others say it was stolen. I’ve heard rumors that it my be hiding in a small town in the mountains of Idaho. Who ever has it, please bring it back. It’s my most precious possession.
Another point…Cerberus, an investment group owns Chrysler…Does that make them eligible without a new bill?
Real americans: Its time to wise up and rise up, infer from this what you wish.
Couldn’t have said it better myself.
Does anyone really think that bleeping Bush gives a bleep for the bleeping TARP rules! BLEEP NO! He’s just another bleeping Dr Strangelove who is riding the financial bleeping bomb right into our weakened economy. But this time it is our entire nation that will be bleeping destroyed by that bleeping idiot cowboy.
Yup, but this time, Harry Reid won’t smell us comin . . .
This is what lawyers refer to as “precedent”, and is used as cover for any similar behavior which happens hence.
The rules can be circumvented or complied with depending on your perspective quite readily.
The purpose of TARP was to get financial institutions lending again. And not just to each other.
The $15 billion of TARP money can go to an agreeable bank who will lend the Big 3 $14.5 billion and pocket $500 million for themselves for a quick day’s work. Seems compliant with the rules to me.
That is actually what TARP was meant to do. It wasn’t meant to for financial institutions to sit on or invest for their internal benefit.