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	<title>Comments on: Auto pigs suckling at America&#8217;s teat</title>
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		<title>By: Dear Santa &#124; Vancouver Secrets</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2008/12/17/auto-pigs-suckling-at-americas-teat/comment-page-1/#comment-576412</link>
		<dc:creator>Dear Santa &#124; Vancouver Secrets</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Dec 2008 12:17:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Obama, don’t let the evil Republicans kill our auto industry. It deserves all the help we can give it. So what if Toyota made money last year? Or if they build cars people want to buy? GM deserves our [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Obama, don’t let the evil Republicans kill our auto industry. It deserves all the help we can give it. So what if Toyota made money last year? Or if they build cars people want to buy? GM deserves our [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Michelle Malkin &#187; Christmas bailout gift ideas</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2008/12/17/auto-pigs-suckling-at-americas-teat/comment-page-1/#comment-575262</link>
		<dc:creator>Michelle Malkin &#187; Christmas bailout gift ideas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Dec 2008 02:10:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] like that. I&#8217;m thinking something incorporating the three little piggies&#8217; theme would be good, [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] like that. I&#8217;m thinking something incorporating the three little piggies&#8217; theme would be good, [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff2161</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2008/12/17/auto-pigs-suckling-at-americas-teat/comment-page-1/#comment-575220</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff2161</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Dec 2008 00:22:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>emjem24: Did you read my post of having worked for a unionized company that competes; successfully, might I add, with WALMART? I&#039;m not asking for much, just PLEASE people...Stop spouting trivia from managements perspective. Research them, at least as much as you besmirch people making a living. I&#039;m not anti-education but, at least teachers have a monopoly with, guaranteed job security...Tenure, anyone?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>emjem24: Did you read my post of having worked for a unionized company that competes; successfully, might I add, with WALMART? I&#8217;m not asking for much, just PLEASE people&#8230;Stop spouting trivia from managements perspective. Research them, at least as much as you besmirch people making a living. I&#8217;m not anti-education but, at least teachers have a monopoly with, guaranteed job security&#8230;Tenure, anyone?</p>
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		<title>By: Gorebot</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2008/12/17/auto-pigs-suckling-at-americas-teat/comment-page-1/#comment-575047</link>
		<dc:creator>Gorebot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Dec 2008 18:50:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Success breeds complacency, which in turn breeds failure.

Lesson: Failure is necessary in order to survive.

It&#039;s been true for eons, and will never stop being so, no matter how much plundering Liberalism we keep throwing down the rat-hole.

(Actually, the reflexive doses of corpulent Liberalism just protract the failure.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Success breeds complacency, which in turn breeds failure.</p>
<p>Lesson: Failure is necessary in order to survive.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s been true for eons, and will never stop being so, no matter how much plundering Liberalism we keep throwing down the rat-hole.</p>
<p>(Actually, the reflexive doses of corpulent Liberalism just protract the failure.)</p>
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		<title>By: ChrisFromGermany</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2008/12/17/auto-pigs-suckling-at-americas-teat/comment-page-1/#comment-574708</link>
		<dc:creator>ChrisFromGermany</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Dec 2008 14:12:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It seems they&#039;ll get the money from G.W. directly, as just announced on CNN. 13,4 billion $$$ from the bailout pool... Fiscal conservatism R.I.P.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It seems they&#8217;ll get the money from G.W. directly, as just announced on CNN. 13,4 billion $$$ from the bailout pool&#8230; Fiscal conservatism R.I.P.</p>
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		<title>By: The Enlightened Redneck &#187; The Photoshop Stop</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2008/12/17/auto-pigs-suckling-at-americas-teat/comment-page-1/#comment-574707</link>
		<dc:creator>The Enlightened Redneck &#187; The Photoshop Stop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Dec 2008 14:08:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I&#8217;m a big fan of Michelle Malkin because she not only features such images on her blog, she invites her loyal readers to create them. A case in point: the portrait of three auto industry pigs suckling at America&#8217;s teat. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] I&#8217;m a big fan of Michelle Malkin because she not only features such images on her blog, she invites her loyal readers to create them. A case in point: the portrait of three auto industry pigs suckling at America&#8217;s teat. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: tiredofit08</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2008/12/17/auto-pigs-suckling-at-americas-teat/comment-page-1/#comment-574701</link>
		<dc:creator>tiredofit08</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Dec 2008 13:47:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>and guess who is the biggest single buyer of that little pill to help you keep it up longer??? yep you guessed it...GM..$17m a year...

google it....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>and guess who is the biggest single buyer of that little pill to help you keep it up longer??? yep you guessed it&#8230;GM..$17m a year&#8230;</p>
<p>google it&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: graysonret</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2008/12/17/auto-pigs-suckling-at-americas-teat/comment-page-1/#comment-574686</link>
		<dc:creator>graysonret</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Dec 2008 10:09:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When you can&#039;t make it in politics, and have an overwhelming desire to feed your egomaniac personality, be a union boss.  Heavily support your local liberal politician, and make sure that the CEOs are the ones to blame, not you, as you soak the industry dry.  Also, make sure the Press understands that you&#039;re out there fighting for the &quot;American worker&quot; while you pad your bank account, and quest for more control over the economy and people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When you can&#8217;t make it in politics, and have an overwhelming desire to feed your egomaniac personality, be a union boss.  Heavily support your local liberal politician, and make sure that the CEOs are the ones to blame, not you, as you soak the industry dry.  Also, make sure the Press understands that you&#8217;re out there fighting for the &#8220;American worker&#8221; while you pad your bank account, and quest for more control over the economy and people.</p>
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		<title>By: emjem24</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2008/12/17/auto-pigs-suckling-at-americas-teat/comment-page-1/#comment-574674</link>
		<dc:creator>emjem24</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Dec 2008 06:12:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hannibal/Jeff:

While I understand &quot;some&quot; of your points, your anger is misdirected at the wrong people. Both management and the UAW played a role in the implosion that occured in Detroit over the years. Both parties went along never thinking that either had to adapt to changing times. Management didn&#039;t have to create more innovative, fuel efficient cars that American consumers actually liked or didn&#039;t equate with lemons. The UAW never thought that perhaps their big wig leaders/reps and worker salaries were a tad bloated.

Jeff, why are you attacking college grads? College grads work their butts off to get where they are too. They went to school and learned a skill and then went into the real world to prove themselves. Yes, some people played the financial system (such as upper management and brokers) while others did their job and expected nothing more than their paycheck.

Do you not have a problem with the Job Banks program? Where workers were paid not to work? Seems kind of cushy while the rest of us (and the rest of the world) apply for unemployment, then look for work, interview for jobs, wash, repeat. Gee, if only I could be part of a cushy union.

Unions are a fraud. I&#039;m a social studies teacher by trade and one of the big turnoffs for me is the teacher&#039;s unions in this country who mandate who gets paid what and when. I found out that many school districts are reluctant to hire teachers with master&#039;s degrees because they automatically get paid more than those with bachelor&#039;s degrees based on payscale schedules mandated by teacher&#039;s unions. Unions have now priced out a whole sector of people (those with master&#039;s degrees but seeking first teaching job) because school districts can&#039;t afford them. This sounds familiar.

I grew up in a union household. My father was a unionized steamfitter/plumber for 30+ years and when he got injured on the job he applied for disability. When he applied to the union for representation and help, he got a big FU. What good are unions when they only serve their leadership and their political masters in Washington?

Many of us are speaking from life experience not an urge to stick it to American workers. I saw what my father went through and it WASN&#039;T an isolated incident. Who takes care of your kids when teachers are out sick, have training etc.? Substitute teachers. They&#039;ve been trying to unionize for years because of the crappy work environment, pay, and benefits. These are people who are just as highly educated as regular teachers but are only paid as little as $60 per day unlike your precious union buddies. The biggest resistance to unionized subs are, wait for it, TEACHER&#039;S UNIONS. 

Isn&#039;t it interesting that on one hand, the big unions want to keep their cushy benefits/jobs at the expense of both the Big 3 and American people, yet they&#039;re threatened by competition and innovation that keeps industry going?  

Jeff/Hannibal, you can&#039;t have it both ways. I have no beef with unions if they actually stay out of politics, stop promotiing illegal employment,  represent workers, and don&#039;t restrict industry development and competition. Yet, do you not see how inflated the auto union benefits are in comparison to other fields? Most people&#039;s salaries haven&#039;t kept pace with inflation yet they&#039;re expected to make due. Why can&#039;t the auto workers? What makes them so special and protected? How fair is that to the rest of us?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hannibal/Jeff:</p>
<p>While I understand &#8220;some&#8221; of your points, your anger is misdirected at the wrong people. Both management and the UAW played a role in the implosion that occured in Detroit over the years. Both parties went along never thinking that either had to adapt to changing times. Management didn&#8217;t have to create more innovative, fuel efficient cars that American consumers actually liked or didn&#8217;t equate with lemons. The UAW never thought that perhaps their big wig leaders/reps and worker salaries were a tad bloated.</p>
<p>Jeff, why are you attacking college grads? College grads work their butts off to get where they are too. They went to school and learned a skill and then went into the real world to prove themselves. Yes, some people played the financial system (such as upper management and brokers) while others did their job and expected nothing more than their paycheck.</p>
<p>Do you not have a problem with the Job Banks program? Where workers were paid not to work? Seems kind of cushy while the rest of us (and the rest of the world) apply for unemployment, then look for work, interview for jobs, wash, repeat. Gee, if only I could be part of a cushy union.</p>
<p>Unions are a fraud. I&#8217;m a social studies teacher by trade and one of the big turnoffs for me is the teacher&#8217;s unions in this country who mandate who gets paid what and when. I found out that many school districts are reluctant to hire teachers with master&#8217;s degrees because they automatically get paid more than those with bachelor&#8217;s degrees based on payscale schedules mandated by teacher&#8217;s unions. Unions have now priced out a whole sector of people (those with master&#8217;s degrees but seeking first teaching job) because school districts can&#8217;t afford them. This sounds familiar.</p>
<p>I grew up in a union household. My father was a unionized steamfitter/plumber for 30+ years and when he got injured on the job he applied for disability. When he applied to the union for representation and help, he got a big FU. What good are unions when they only serve their leadership and their political masters in Washington?</p>
<p>Many of us are speaking from life experience not an urge to stick it to American workers. I saw what my father went through and it WASN&#8217;T an isolated incident. Who takes care of your kids when teachers are out sick, have training etc.? Substitute teachers. They&#8217;ve been trying to unionize for years because of the crappy work environment, pay, and benefits. These are people who are just as highly educated as regular teachers but are only paid as little as $60 per day unlike your precious union buddies. The biggest resistance to unionized subs are, wait for it, TEACHER&#8217;S UNIONS. </p>
<p>Isn&#8217;t it interesting that on one hand, the big unions want to keep their cushy benefits/jobs at the expense of both the Big 3 and American people, yet they&#8217;re threatened by competition and innovation that keeps industry going?  </p>
<p>Jeff/Hannibal, you can&#8217;t have it both ways. I have no beef with unions if they actually stay out of politics, stop promotiing illegal employment,  represent workers, and don&#8217;t restrict industry development and competition. Yet, do you not see how inflated the auto union benefits are in comparison to other fields? Most people&#8217;s salaries haven&#8217;t kept pace with inflation yet they&#8217;re expected to make due. Why can&#8217;t the auto workers? What makes them so special and protected? How fair is that to the rest of us?</p>
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		<title>By: Bush Considering &#8220;Orderly Bankruptcy&#8221; for Automakers &#124; shyspeak.net</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bush Considering &#8220;Orderly Bankruptcy&#8221; for Automakers &#124; shyspeak.net</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Dec 2008 02:56:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] MORE: Michelle Malkin [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Jeff2161</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2008/12/17/auto-pigs-suckling-at-americas-teat/comment-page-1/#comment-574558</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff2161</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Dec 2008 02:18:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Book learning vs. experience? BS means just what it looks like!</description>
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		<title>By: Jeff2161</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff2161</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Dec 2008 02:17:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>grad</description>
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		<title>By: Jeff2161</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2008/12/17/auto-pigs-suckling-at-americas-teat/comment-page-1/#comment-574556</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff2161</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Dec 2008 02:16:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No one demanding college boys refund their outrageous bonuses on unprofitable trades...can&#039;t hurt a college gras, right?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No one demanding college boys refund their outrageous bonuses on unprofitable trades&#8230;can&#8217;t hurt a college gras, right?</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff2161</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2008/12/17/auto-pigs-suckling-at-americas-teat/comment-page-1/#comment-574554</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff2161</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Dec 2008 02:14:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sarc on...
Union workers: overpriced,lazy...
College grads; aka Management: overpriced,lazy,and STUPID! Union workers did not cause idiots to overprice mortgage securities, It&#039;s all about the benjamins if you have a ged from harvard.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sarc on&#8230;<br />
Union workers: overpriced,lazy&#8230;<br />
College grads; aka Management: overpriced,lazy,and STUPID! Union workers did not cause idiots to overprice mortgage securities, It&#8217;s all about the benjamins if you have a ged from harvard.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff2161</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff2161</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Dec 2008 02:11:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hannibal: Nice to hear a fellow voice of reason rather than, Knee jerks...</description>
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