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		<title>By: AllMilitary.com - Official Military Blog, Military Updates &#187; Blog Archive &#187; The Weekly Claw 12-23-08</title>
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		<dc:creator>AllMilitary.com - Official Military Blog, Military Updates &#187; Blog Archive &#187; The Weekly Claw 12-23-08</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Dec 2008 06:21:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] the ILLEGAL use of TARP funds to bail out the UAW…er, the automobile manufacturing industry, regrettable. While don’t you file suit against it and prevent it, then? No spine and no (self-censored because [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] the ILLEGAL use of TARP funds to bail out the UAW…er, the automobile manufacturing industry, regrettable. While don’t you file suit against it and prevent it, then? No spine and no (self-censored because [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Chevy dealer tries to &#8220;crush&#8221; the Asian competition &#187; A Couple Things &#187; A couple things about politics, sports, travel, and other stuff.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chevy dealer tries to &#8220;crush&#8221; the Asian competition &#187; A Couple Things &#187; A couple things about politics, sports, travel, and other stuff.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Dec 2008 15:54:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] of funny that we&#8217;re bailing out organizations that make worthless [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Does it matter if bailouts are illegal? &#8212; Cranach: The Blog of Veith</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2008/12/19/anyone/comment-page-1/#comment-575828</link>
		<dc:creator>Does it matter if bailouts are illegal? &#8212; Cranach: The Blog of Veith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Dec 2008 13:41:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] to FW for pointing out the latest threat to the rule of law. Consider this: The Bush Administration is planning to use money from the $700 billion financial system bailout [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] to FW for pointing out the latest threat to the rule of law. Consider this: The Bush Administration is planning to use money from the $700 billion financial system bailout [...]</p>
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		<title>By: rightwingrocker</title>
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		<dc:creator>rightwingrocker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Dec 2008 06:16:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Instead of wringing their hands, I’d like to see fiscal conservatives in Congress put their money where their mouths are and file suit against this illegal, unconstitutional bailout.&lt;/blockquote&gt;Amen.

RWR
www.rightwingrocker.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Instead of wringing their hands, I’d like to see fiscal conservatives in Congress put their money where their mouths are and file suit against this illegal, unconstitutional bailout.</p></blockquote>
<p>Amen.</p>
<p>RWR<br />
<a href="http://www.rightwingrocker.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.rightwingrocker.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: corona</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2008/12/19/anyone/comment-page-1/#comment-575781</link>
		<dc:creator>corona</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Dec 2008 00:38:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So, &lt;em&gt;Madchef&lt;/em&gt;, if you&#039;re reading this, you haven&#039;t killed yourself yet, so you are submitting to socialism.

How does it feel?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, <em>Madchef</em>, if you&#8217;re reading this, you haven&#8217;t killed yourself yet, so you are submitting to socialism.</p>
<p>How does it feel?</p>
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		<title>By: happy2behere</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Dec 2008 15:51:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Who wants to sue? I do! I do!</description>
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		<title>By: Bush Auto Bailout Illegal, Bailout Supporter Admits&#160;&#124;&#160;OpenMarket.org</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bush Auto Bailout Illegal, Bailout Supporter Admits&#160;&#124;&#160;OpenMarket.org</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Dec 2008 21:16:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] bailout funds, is illegal and unconstitutional. We, the Heritage Foundation, and many others earlier reached the same [...]</description>
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		<title>By: ButAsForMe! &#187; Anyone want to sue over the illegal UAW bailout?</title>
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		<dc:creator>ButAsForMe! &#187; Anyone want to sue over the illegal UAW bailout?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Dec 2008 05:09:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...]  Anyone want to sue over the illegal UAW bailout? Quick Read: [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Is The Detroit Bailout Illegal? &#124; The F U Republiblog</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2008/12/19/anyone/comment-page-1/#comment-575274</link>
		<dc:creator>Is The Detroit Bailout Illegal? &#124; The F U Republiblog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Dec 2008 02:46:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Michelle Malkin wants to know. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: MtsEdge</title>
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		<dc:creator>MtsEdge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Dec 2008 02:14:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Slightly O/T, did anyone notice how McCain is now &quot;condemning&quot; Bush&#039;s latest auto bailout????

What nerve this man has.  To review, he &quot;suspended his campaign&quot; so he could grandstand his way back to DC, only to sit on his rump and nod his head like a bobbing dog, voting &quot;YES&quot; on $700B bailout + PORK.  In one fell swoop, he lost ALL credibility he had ever gained in his years in Congress.  He really should just go away, like GWB.  

Stick a fork in both of them, instead of in my eyeball.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Slightly O/T, did anyone notice how McCain is now &#8220;condemning&#8221; Bush&#8217;s latest auto bailout????</p>
<p>What nerve this man has.  To review, he &#8220;suspended his campaign&#8221; so he could grandstand his way back to DC, only to sit on his rump and nod his head like a bobbing dog, voting &#8220;YES&#8221; on $700B bailout + PORK.  In one fell swoop, he lost ALL credibility he had ever gained in his years in Congress.  He really should just go away, like GWB.  </p>
<p>Stick a fork in both of them, instead of in my eyeball.</p>
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		<title>By: nuss</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Dec 2008 01:23:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;On December 19th, 2008 at 4:33 pm, WarEagle82 said: 
I am a bit confused. Isn’t there a document somewhere that says the government is here to do the will of the people? 

This concept may not be as strong in today’s Washington, DC governing circles as it was when the nation was first organized. I am beginning to think “we the people” need to do something about “them, the politicians.”&lt;/blockquote&gt;

The problem is that &quot;we the people&quot; have become &quot;we the sheeple&quot;.  Politicians have long since learned that the citizenry are poorly informed, waste little time in thinking about issues, and are easily manipulated with empty rhetoric.  I once thought it was arrogant to view fellow Americans as ignorant fools.  But, recently I&#039;ve read results of various polls that show just how misinformed most American are about issues.  I am pessimistic that this will change anytime soon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>On December 19th, 2008 at 4:33 pm, WarEagle82 said:<br />
I am a bit confused. Isn’t there a document somewhere that says the government is here to do the will of the people? </p>
<p>This concept may not be as strong in today’s Washington, DC governing circles as it was when the nation was first organized. I am beginning to think “we the people” need to do something about “them, the politicians.”</p></blockquote>
<p>The problem is that &#8220;we the people&#8221; have become &#8220;we the sheeple&#8221;.  Politicians have long since learned that the citizenry are poorly informed, waste little time in thinking about issues, and are easily manipulated with empty rhetoric.  I once thought it was arrogant to view fellow Americans as ignorant fools.  But, recently I&#8217;ve read results of various polls that show just how misinformed most American are about issues.  I am pessimistic that this will change anytime soon.</p>
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		<title>By: love2rumba</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2008/12/19/anyone/comment-page-1/#comment-575235</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Dec 2008 00:59:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just wrote REp. Hensnarling urging him to sue to stop this automaker bailout...we will see what he is made of.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just wrote REp. Hensnarling urging him to sue to stop this automaker bailout&#8230;we will see what he is made of.</p>
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		<title>By: WarEagle82</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Dec 2008 21:33:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am a bit confused.  Isn&#039;t there a document somewhere that says the government is here to do the will of the people?  

This concept may not be as strong in today&#039;s Washington, DC governing circles as it was when the nation was first organized.  I am beginning to think &quot;we the people&quot; need to do something about &quot;them, the politicians.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a bit confused.  Isn&#8217;t there a document somewhere that says the government is here to do the will of the people?  </p>
<p>This concept may not be as strong in today&#8217;s Washington, DC governing circles as it was when the nation was first organized.  I am beginning to think &#8220;we the people&#8221; need to do something about &#8220;them, the politicians.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: On-my-soap-box</title>
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		<dc:creator>On-my-soap-box</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Dec 2008 20:24:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;On December 19th, 2008 at 1:58 pm, Sanddog said: 
Just a question… are you a union member?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Oh, good lord...

No, I despise unions.  I had my fill of their corruption when I was 17 and never would work a union job EVER.

Why is it that if I am not nearly as outraged as some of you, you have to go into attack mode.  Save your vitriol for where it counts.

I write my senators and congressmen and fired Mel Martini-ez because he supported CS 1.0.

Let me make this as simple as I can.  I hate corruption on both sides of the aisle.  I also understand that the likelihood of getting a pass is better if a (D) is behind your name.

What I am saying as it relates to this thread is AIG got the pass while, suddenly, our politicians went after the big 3.  It was grandstanding at best.  Now, I am supposed to be more upset over the big 3 bail out.  Sorry to all of you.  I am just as pissed (okay, maybe more) at the AIG crap.  I am beyond outraged at the amount of pork that gets attached to EVERY SINGLE BILL so it can get the okie-dokie stamp.  To pretend like all of this huffing-n-puffing is going to stop the big 3 from getting their bail out money is – well – stupid.  Let’s move on to the next bail out and display our outrage.  While you are at it, let’s pretend like Obama’s next trillion dollars is going to fix everything.  Better yet, let’s just get mad at Soap and feel better.

To quote Familyman: GEEEEEEEESH</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>On December 19th, 2008 at 1:58 pm, Sanddog said:<br />
Just a question… are you a union member?</p></blockquote>
<p>Oh, good lord&#8230;</p>
<p>No, I despise unions.  I had my fill of their corruption when I was 17 and never would work a union job EVER.</p>
<p>Why is it that if I am not nearly as outraged as some of you, you have to go into attack mode.  Save your vitriol for where it counts.</p>
<p>I write my senators and congressmen and fired Mel Martini-ez because he supported CS 1.0.</p>
<p>Let me make this as simple as I can.  I hate corruption on both sides of the aisle.  I also understand that the likelihood of getting a pass is better if a (D) is behind your name.</p>
<p>What I am saying as it relates to this thread is AIG got the pass while, suddenly, our politicians went after the big 3.  It was grandstanding at best.  Now, I am supposed to be more upset over the big 3 bail out.  Sorry to all of you.  I am just as pissed (okay, maybe more) at the AIG crap.  I am beyond outraged at the amount of pork that gets attached to EVERY SINGLE BILL so it can get the okie-dokie stamp.  To pretend like all of this huffing-n-puffing is going to stop the big 3 from getting their bail out money is – well – stupid.  Let’s move on to the next bail out and display our outrage.  While you are at it, let’s pretend like Obama’s next trillion dollars is going to fix everything.  Better yet, let’s just get mad at Soap and feel better.</p>
<p>To quote Familyman: GEEEEEEEESH</p>
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		<title>By: legalbgl</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Dec 2008 20:21:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to say, illegal or not (and I am not convinced that it is illegal) the auto bail out was necessary.  Allowing the auto industry to fail would have disasterous consequences on all sectors of American economy.  There would be no more manufacturing, suppliers would fail, lenders would fail, dealers would fail.  Competition would decrease thereby increasing prices so the consumer is hurt. Plus how many people moving from private payroll to government assistance.  Could the governemnt afford the unemployment insurrance that would be needed?  And with those peple loosing hteir jobs, how many mortgages would fail, putting further strain on the TARP?  

As I wrote to Senator Robert Melendez (D-NJ) the other day:
&lt;blockquote&gt;The auto industry&#039;s situation was not caused by short sited management decisions.  On the contrary, these decisions were made at the barrel of a gun by the union.  With the threat of a strike closing down production, or as in many situations, under the actual pain of a strike being executed, the UAW has robbed and raped management of the big three.  How can GM afford not to cave into onerous demands from the union, when the alternative is a long, drawn out strike, and Democrats and the media chastising them for attempting to protect against the situation we find ourselves in now.
 
Additionally, this is not an issue of high fuel standards and the Big Thre fighting tougher standards.  In fact, GM has one of the best records on fuel efficiency of any auto maker.  More GM alternative fuel busses are on the road than any other company.  GM is offering the only car in the country to run on electricity only for 40 miles (zero gas consumption, zero green house gasses!)  GM was a leader in displacement on demand (the same system that Honda utilizes in the Pilot), and has brought hybrid engines to cars and trucks that are not so tiny that I could not even put my child stroller in the back trunk (try saying that for the Toyota Prius.)  Ford was the first automaker to offer a hybrid engine in an SUV (the Escape), and that vehicle makes up part of NYC&#039;s taxi fleet (and is certainly more comfortable than the Prius.)  Plus, both Ford and GM have done this without sacraficing safety.  The new Toyota Rav 4 cannot even boast of a 5 star safety crash test rating, while GM&#039;s Saturn Vue and Chevy Equinox can.  *** The Saturn Aura and Chevy Malibu have been awarded North American Car of the Year.  So its not an issue of not making cars that American&#039;s want. 

***

The big three must be bailed out immediately, the UAW must be brought to give up perpetual health care and &quot;job board&quot; protections (which give laid off workers 90% of their salary, paid for by management.) *** &lt;/blockquote&gt;

I stand by the Auto industry bailout as a necessary step for this country.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to say, illegal or not (and I am not convinced that it is illegal) the auto bail out was necessary.  Allowing the auto industry to fail would have disasterous consequences on all sectors of American economy.  There would be no more manufacturing, suppliers would fail, lenders would fail, dealers would fail.  Competition would decrease thereby increasing prices so the consumer is hurt. Plus how many people moving from private payroll to government assistance.  Could the governemnt afford the unemployment insurrance that would be needed?  And with those peple loosing hteir jobs, how many mortgages would fail, putting further strain on the TARP?  </p>
<p>As I wrote to Senator Robert Melendez (D-NJ) the other day:</p>
<blockquote><p>The auto industry&#8217;s situation was not caused by short sited management decisions.  On the contrary, these decisions were made at the barrel of a gun by the union.  With the threat of a strike closing down production, or as in many situations, under the actual pain of a strike being executed, the UAW has robbed and raped management of the big three.  How can GM afford not to cave into onerous demands from the union, when the alternative is a long, drawn out strike, and Democrats and the media chastising them for attempting to protect against the situation we find ourselves in now.</p>
<p>Additionally, this is not an issue of high fuel standards and the Big Thre fighting tougher standards.  In fact, GM has one of the best records on fuel efficiency of any auto maker.  More GM alternative fuel busses are on the road than any other company.  GM is offering the only car in the country to run on electricity only for 40 miles (zero gas consumption, zero green house gasses!)  GM was a leader in displacement on demand (the same system that Honda utilizes in the Pilot), and has brought hybrid engines to cars and trucks that are not so tiny that I could not even put my child stroller in the back trunk (try saying that for the Toyota Prius.)  Ford was the first automaker to offer a hybrid engine in an SUV (the Escape), and that vehicle makes up part of NYC&#8217;s taxi fleet (and is certainly more comfortable than the Prius.)  Plus, both Ford and GM have done this without sacraficing safety.  The new Toyota Rav 4 cannot even boast of a 5 star safety crash test rating, while GM&#8217;s Saturn Vue and Chevy Equinox can.  *** The Saturn Aura and Chevy Malibu have been awarded North American Car of the Year.  So its not an issue of not making cars that American&#8217;s want. </p>
<p>***</p>
<p>The big three must be bailed out immediately, the UAW must be brought to give up perpetual health care and &#8220;job board&#8221; protections (which give laid off workers 90% of their salary, paid for by management.) *** </p></blockquote>
<p>I stand by the Auto industry bailout as a necessary step for this country.</p>
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