Eco-guilt assuasion in San Francisco

By Michelle Malkin  •  December 26, 2008 11:26 AM

San Francisco is building carbon offset kiosks for enviro-nitwit plane travelers who want to assuage their guilt over their carbon footprints. Frequent flier and planet savior Nancy Pelosi approves, no doubt:

San Francisco’s Airport Commission has authorized the program, which will involve a $163,000 investment from SFO, but is still working out the details with 3Degrees. Because of that, McDougal said, he can’t yet discuss specifics, such as the cost to purchase carbon offsets and what programs would benefit from travelers’ purchases.

But the general idea, officials said, is that a traveler would approach a kiosk resembling the self-service check-in stations used by airlines, then punch in his or her destination. The computer would calculate the carbon footprint and the cost of an investment to offset the damage. The traveler could then swipe a credit card to help save the planet. Travelers would receive a printed receipt listing the projects benefiting from their environmental largesse.

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Wonder if they’ll let the folks who came up with carbon offset offsets build their own kiosks? I’ll buy those!

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  1. #1
    On December 26th, 2008 at 11:33 am, Devil's Advocate said:

    How is this any different from indulgences that the Catholic Church used to sell.

    I call for a reformation!!!

  2. #2
    On December 26th, 2008 at 11:37 am, zorro said:

    Wonder if they’ll let the folks who came up with carbon offset offsets build their own kiosks? I’ll buy those!

    I’m in!

  3. #3
    On December 26th, 2008 at 11:42 am, carole said:

    I wonder if it will be like that box on your tax form. If you want to pay more, check here.

    No one did.

    No one will by carbon offsets…..want to take bets now.

  4. #4
    On December 26th, 2008 at 11:42 am, TooMuchTime said:

    How is this any different from indulgences that the Catholic Church used to sell?

    It’s not. Read this speech by Michael Crichton (rest his soul) about how environmentalism is just another form of religion.

    Read the other speeches, too. He was quite an intelligent person.

  5. #5
    On December 26th, 2008 at 11:51 am, sdillard said:

    There is a website called freecarbonoffsets.com.

    You can go there and print certificates with any name, and any amount of “carbon offsets”. I made certificates for all my Christmas dinner guests. Each guest now has a certificate showing that they own 1,000,000,000 carbon offsets.

    Cost: free.

  6. #6
    On December 26th, 2008 at 11:55 am, TooMuchTime said:

    sdillard. You Rock! Thanks.

    This is similar to this gift from Walter Williams.

    I’m gonna print me up a bunch. Kind of like having your own Treasury department!

  7. #7
    On December 26th, 2008 at 11:57 am, greenfairie said:

    Where’s Martin Luther when you really need him?

  8. #8
    On December 26th, 2008 at 12:02 pm, TooMuchTime said:

    I used the carbon offset certificate site provided by sdillard and entered the number of seconds I’ve been alive as the number of carbon offsets. I got the number of seconds from this site.

    Way cool!

  9. #9
    On December 26th, 2008 at 12:02 pm, wendy said:

    This is my favorite part

    “Travelers would receive a printed receipt listing the projects benefiting from their environmental largesse.”

    Now would that be printed on recycled paper? Why not just email them a copy of the projects benefiting rather than killing another tree, how environmentally responsible is it to print something? Is that printing accounted for in calculating their carbon footprint? Just asking.

  10. #10
    On December 26th, 2008 at 12:09 pm, vinny said:

    laugh now, but you will be shocked later. These kiosks are essentially advertisement. These ideas of paying off your carbon expense will become mandatory in our lifetime. Just another freaking tax, and this tax is going to be used to fund more tax collection schemes. Correct me if I am wrong, but if it getting government funding, it is a government program. Obama is infusing a large group of eco-nitwits into his administration…..see how funny this will seem 2 years from now.

  11. #11
    On December 26th, 2008 at 12:10 pm, AlohaGuy said:

    P.T. Barnum was born too early.

  12. #12
    On December 26th, 2008 at 12:18 pm, Flyoverman said:

    I think the guys who hatched this idea are brilliant. They are true entrapeneurs. The guys who panhandled and sold the medicinal “snake oil” elixars in the 19th Century are their legacy. These people are the 21st Century equivalent to those who stood behind covered wagons and sold a bottled remedy that could cure most anything.

    They exist and will thrive, because one human trait will never change.

    “A fool and his money are soon parted.”

  13. #13
    On December 26th, 2008 at 12:19 pm, Craig said:

    The traveler could then swipe a credit card to help save the planet.

    Of course, there’s no mention that the PLASTIC credit card these eco-maniacs are using has quite an eco-unfriendly footprint. Better use cash, it’s a tad bit more biodegradable.

  14. #14
    On December 26th, 2008 at 12:20 pm, CrazyFool said:

    How long before you are required to show your printed carbon-credit receipt at the Gate?

  15. #15
    On December 26th, 2008 at 12:28 pm, wighttrasch said:

    The traveler could then swipe a credit card to help save the planet.

    They can go ahead & pay for my plane ticket if it makes them feel better.

    And isn’t that what really matters?

  16. #16
    On December 26th, 2008 at 12:28 pm, Mister P said:

    My wife and I have had NO kids and therefore NO grandkids. How many carbon offset points are we entitled to?

  17. #17
    On December 26th, 2008 at 12:29 pm, TooMuchTime said:

    If carbon offsets become mandatory, the intelligent people will just not do whatever activity incurs the tax.

    Less people in CA smoke, not because of the liberal anti-smoking campaign, but because the taxes are too high.

    And, if business travelers are required to purchase carbon offsets for air travel, some lobbyist will get a deduction added to the internal revenue code so businesses can write them off.

    Gaming the system.

  18. #18
    On December 26th, 2008 at 12:32 pm, Mister P said:

    TooMuchTime said:
    How is this any different from indulgences that the Catholic Church used to sell?
    It’s not. Read this speech by Michael Crichton (rest his soul) about how environmentalism is just another form of religion.

    Read the other speeches, too. He was quite an intelligent person.

    Just discussed this with my brother. It was Tet who went around Germany selling indulgences to guarentee a spot in heaven. The money went to pay for St. Peters Basillica. Martin Luther saw this as so absurd, it drove him away from the Church.

    But without Carbon Credits, how could Al Gore explain his extravagent life style?

  19. #19
    On December 26th, 2008 at 12:33 pm, NJ-Aviator said:

    CrazyFool said:

    How long before you are required to show your printed carbon-credit receipt at the Gate?

    The real question is how long before they build this into a huge tax on air travel and other forms of transportation?

  20. #20
    On December 26th, 2008 at 12:33 pm, Mister P said:

    If carbon offsets become mandatory, the intelligent people will just not do whatever activity incurs the tax.

    Are you ready to be a vegetarian?

  21. #21
    On December 26th, 2008 at 12:38 pm, Jarhead said:

    The computer would calculate the carbon footprint and the cost of an investment to offset the damage. The traveler could then swipe a credit card to help save the planet. Travelers would receive a printed receipt listing the projects benefiting from their environmental largesse.

    What a Ponzi scheme! Wait, whoever thought this up is brilliant. Yea that’s the ticket brilliant.

  22. #22
    On December 26th, 2008 at 12:42 pm, MNUSMCDavid said:

    Will anyone ever stop using issues of the past and now never utilized, such as indulgences, to compare with present day folly? Yes historical perspective is a useful tool, but not in this case. It’s getting petty and boring. In the interest of clarity, I am Catholic.

  23. #23
    On December 26th, 2008 at 12:43 pm, malkin_fan said:

    I love the idea.

    Where can I put MY kiosk?

    KA-CHING

  24. #24
    On December 26th, 2008 at 1:00 pm, puhiawa said:

    And we can be sure the money will be directed to Democrat lobbyist. This is just theft.

  25. #25
    On December 26th, 2008 at 1:04 pm, TXGator said:

    Is there a kiosk for stupidity offsets? Wouldn’t that be a gold mine?
    What happens after you stick your money in a carbon offsets kiosk? Do big robotic arms come out, pat you on the back, give you a big hug, then the machine whispers, “You’re better, smarter, and more caring than the rest of them”?
    Soon, we will have to redefine the meaning of so many words.

  26. #26
    On December 26th, 2008 at 1:24 pm, hatfield said:

    I am proud to say that my carbon footprint increased this year. They can take my carbon from me when the pry it from my cold dead hands.

  27. #27
    On December 26th, 2008 at 1:50 pm, ErikTheRed said:

    Reminds me of the 25-cent Suicide Booths in Futurama. But that’s just me.

  28. #28
    On December 26th, 2008 at 2:03 pm, WrshpMzshn said:

    CrazyFool said:
    How long before you are required to show your printed carbon-credit receipt at the Pearly Gate?

    Fortunately for me, salvation is not based on my PC factor.

  29. #29
    On December 26th, 2008 at 2:07 pm, ajmontana said:

    Sham WOW!!! :shock:

  30. #30
    On December 26th, 2008 at 2:11 pm, AlohaGuy said:

    My wife and I have had NO kids and therefore NO grandkids. How many carbon offset points are we entitled to?

    Claim all the dependents you will have on National Health Care – and please pay the Carbon Tax for them as well.

  31. #31
    On December 26th, 2008 at 2:14 pm, Kevin K. said:

    Guess I won’t be flying through SFO much anymore. What’s voluntary now may well be mandatory later–and part of the initial funding is coming from the airport authority, paid for by travelers.

  32. #32
    On December 26th, 2008 at 2:18 pm, Mister P said:

    I am wondering about this Santa killer in LA. He killed 8 people. Now, does he get a carbon credit for saving the planet from all the carbon these people were using (and exhaling)? Since he committed suicide, does his heirs now get that credit? Their must be some accounting of these carbon credits.

  33. #33
    On December 26th, 2008 at 2:20 pm, Mister P said:

    Claim all the dependents you will have on National Health Care – and please pay the Carbon Tax for them as well.

    None of them either. But since I have been paying for Public Schools for 40 years, I must have a debit for helping produce all that hot air.

  34. #34
    On December 26th, 2008 at 2:50 pm, Politicalguano said:

    Dear Michelle and blog readers:
    First a very Merry Christmas to you all!
    Regarding SF and carbon etc.
    I think the super wealthy support the global warming swindle so they can lower the average lifestyle of regular people thus magnifying how powerful they look and are. I turned to an expert on the matter, the Grinch for his opinion which follows:
    Cindy Lou Who?
    The Grinch looked around and what he saw filled him with hate, for the people were happy, with rich food straining their plates. He cried out, ” once these luxuries were for people only like me,
    but now these peasants can stuff them under their Christmas trees.”
    His blood boiled with anger as he pondered and thought, how can I keep all that I own, and taking all from these wretches, leaving them only bare bones? Just as the Grinch’s brain was ready to bust, along came an idea, a tiny miserable idea, a hate filled idea coated with dust. He thought, “Why we’ll take away their bigscreen TV’s and saunas and boats, take away their big homes and swimming pools and fur coats. And we’ll keep them off the roads and the lakes and from the skies! Global warming is an idea their tiny minds will buy. We’ll ration gasoline at $5 an ounce, and those who use more we”ll publicly denounce. And just a single airplane flight a day will keep their sort of kind far away. Oh we’ll empty the parks and beaches and National Forests so they’ll be so much more room and privacy for us! Electricity and heating gas perhaps every other day, but only a few decent hospitals for the rich who can pay. But for the poor maybe a public health lottery to start- tickets for operations for their children’s sick little hearts. ”
    Thus we see the billionaires support this global warming swindle most strongly of all, because the rules and restrictions will affect them not at all, and with their lives restored back to Olympus, their egos again can grow so enormously tall, that the distance from poor to rich will make even Everest look small.

    PS: The movie, The Great Global Warming Swindle is available through the internet and gives a wonderful review of the scam.

  35. #35
    On December 26th, 2008 at 2:56 pm, SpeakEasy said:

    Besides the ridiculousness of the idea, how long will it take for these to be paid for by the receipts? Try never. I see next years bailout request in advance.

  36. #36
    On December 26th, 2008 at 3:19 pm, englishqueen01 said:

    My wife and I have had NO kids and therefore NO grandkids. How many carbon offset points are we entitled to?

    If you have no kids, can I use you as my offset? My husband and I really wanted four, but seeing as how enviro-nitwits only limit us to 2, I’m collecting offsets in the event twins – which run in our families – are sent to us.

    Someone promised us their two…six kids would be nice.

    I only wish I were joking.

  37. #37
    On December 26th, 2008 at 3:39 pm, Mister P said:

    Well China was Credit for its 1 child policy, so why not?

  38. #38
    On December 26th, 2008 at 3:49 pm, nlebou said:

    No one will by carbon offsets…..want to take bets now.

    I’ll take that bet. I know people who would do it thinking they are actually doing the right hting.

  39. #39
    On December 26th, 2008 at 3:51 pm, Mister P said:

    I know people who would do it thinking they are actually doing the right hting

    Do you work with them?

  40. #40
    On December 26th, 2008 at 3:53 pm, nlebou said:

    No Mister P.

  41. #41
    On December 26th, 2008 at 3:54 pm, swmntman said:

    Pguano – nice job on the Dr. Seuss parity.

    Question: Have the liberals ever revealed the ideal temperature that we should be “offsetting” toward? Since we are in a bit of a cooling trend (past 10 years or so), I suspect we are swinging past an ideal temperature and should probably try to slow it down. Any ideas on how to warm the planet up a bit (besides buying offset-offsets)?

  42. #42
    On December 26th, 2008 at 4:04 pm, Cameron said:

    In my conversations with the global warming believers, I have yet to see anyone tell me what the “ideal” temperature is on Earth.

    And I also have yet to hear what we can do if we somehow magically stop producing all this carbon and other nations refuse to do so.

  43. #43
    On December 26th, 2008 at 4:06 pm, swmntman said:

    I’m sure a magic-eco bubble will form over our country. Dang, we think we have illegal-alien problems now….

  44. #44
    On December 26th, 2008 at 5:30 pm, mojack420 said:

    well isnt that so nice how much money will SF be getting from these stupid sheep ??
    Its not like the airport is even in SF or airlines fly over that 8×8 mile city…dung heap.

    This is the same city that has a 6 billon dollar budget and can’t keep out of the red . How about this let the stupid sheep buy off their guilt, I for one wont be buying any offsets if anything ill be making a much bigger carbon footprint just out of spite.

  45. #45
    On December 26th, 2008 at 5:40 pm, cwbois said:

    This just goes to show you that there isnt any help for the terminaly stupid.

  46. #46
    On December 26th, 2008 at 6:13 pm, By Choice said:

    I know Al Gore’s name is on the thing somewhere…………

  47. #47
    On December 26th, 2008 at 6:18 pm, Danceswithdachshunds said:

    If you haven’t been to http://icecap.us/ yet – you’re missing out on the fun of seeing the this AGW scam FINALLY start going down the toilet as global cooling gets an ever firmer grip on us.

    Washington state governor Chris Gregoire proclaimed a state of emergency for the severe winter weather. 30 of Washington’s 39 counties are reporting record or near record snowfall!

    In May of 2007 this SAME governor declared that his new law to curb greenhouse gases means Washington is attacking climate change with “no more delay, no more doubt, no more excuses. Today, together, we take action.”

    So basically, not only are you going to be buried in snow in Washington – your electricity is going to get a LOT more expensive in order to help ‘cool the planet’ even more!

    Still not one piece of convincing scientific evidence that humans cause global warming – I’m still waiting …

    If you want to see a chart that actually scares a mechanical engineer like me – HERE IT IS, a 5th order polynomial curve fit!

    The explanation here.

    Since just January 2007, the world has cooled so much that ALL the global warming over the past three decades has disappeared! This is confirmed by a plot of actual global average temperatures from the best available source, weather satellite data that shows there has been NO net global warming since the satellites were first launched in 1979.

  48. #48
    On December 26th, 2008 at 6:20 pm, Elm Creek Smith said:

    Parody. The word is PARODY!

    Excuse me, but I’m going home, now.

    ECS

  49. #49
    On December 26th, 2008 at 6:22 pm, Danceswithdachshunds said:

    Can I get me a carbon credit loan? (Better yet one guaranteed by a federal GSE?)

  50. #50
    On December 26th, 2008 at 6:22 pm, Danceswithdachshunds said:

    If you haven’t been to http://icecap.us/ yet – you’re missing out on the fun of seeing the this AGW scam FINALLY start going down the toilet as global cooling gets an ever firmer grip on us.

  51. #51
    On December 26th, 2008 at 6:26 pm, torabora said:

    It was wrong for a fool and his money to get together in the first place.

    Your Legislator

  52. #52
    On December 26th, 2008 at 6:28 pm, ArizonaNeanderthal said:

    San Francisco needs another really big earthquake to shake off the stupid and then a big rain to wash it into the Bay. Now we are told to use the phrase Climate Change. Well it has changed. Here in Phoenix we are a good 50* cooler than we were in August. That happen anywhere else?

    Yesterday I cooked the turkey on a charcoal grill. Do I earn or lose Carbon Credits for that? So PETA does not get upset- Yes the Turkey was already dead when I put it on the grill.

  53. #53
    On December 26th, 2008 at 6:28 pm, torabora said:

    I’m gonna go idle my truck for a while in my frozen drive way.

    Ya think i’m kidding? Bet me!

  54. #54
    On December 26th, 2008 at 7:05 pm, graysonret said:

    Another gov’t scam in the making, I see. Seems when the gov’t tries to rip off people, that’s okay. We’ve got so many “scams” going on now, it will take many years to recover…if ever.

  55. #55
    On December 26th, 2008 at 7:31 pm, jangar said:

    Makes me want to place my size 11 carbon footprint and level it into someone’s greenhouse methane gas emitting a$$.

  56. #56
    On December 26th, 2008 at 7:34 pm, Danceswithdachshunds said:

    ArizonaNeanderthal said:

    Yes the Turkey was already dead when I put it on the grill.

    I’m so happy that you cleared up that question for us!

    Fire and meat – one of God’s greatest combinations.

    I too cooked a turkey breast on my propane grill rotisserie yesterday for Christmas dinner plus a leg of lamb, (both came out great!). I went out every once in a while to check on them, (like to be certain that it hadn’t all caught on fire like this one time …), and around dusk when I checked, what should be lurking around the back of my house just outside the fence.. 3 wild turkeys! Being almost dark, my sudden appearance stumbling out the back door, (on my 3rd or 4th glass of wine), startled them pretty good, (usually they ignore me), and they flew up into a clump of pine trees. But I guess they couldn’t see very well in the near dark conditions because I heard a lot of wings hitting the dead pine tree branches. (No, no lambs wandered by but the thought crossed my mind..)

  57. #57
    On December 26th, 2008 at 7:36 pm, jangar said:

    On December 26th, 2008 at 4:06 pm, swmntman said:

    Illegal aliens? Try Illegal Residents

  58. #58
    On December 26th, 2008 at 11:04 pm, RabbidSquirrel said:

    So if the traveler has guilt and feels the need to give this company money, then since I dont have any guilt…

    can I go to this company and have them give me a refund?

    Or maybe I should just start a company where people pay ME to feel guilty for THEM and bypass the middlemen all together.

  59. #59
    On December 26th, 2008 at 11:09 pm, RabbidSquirrel said:

    On December 26th, 2008 at 1:24 pm, hatfield said:

    I am proud to say that my carbon footprint increased this year. They can take my carbon from me when the pry it from my cold dead hands.

    Kudos!

    BTW… isnt carbon all thats left from your cold dead hands. (or if youre cremated, your hot dead hands?) hmmm, so dying reduces your H20 footprint instead.

  60. #60
    On December 27th, 2008 at 8:22 am, GraniteMan said:

    The truth is that the guy who put that kiosk in San Fran is using the proceeds to buy a hummer

  61. #61
    On December 27th, 2008 at 8:51 am, Danceswithdachshunds said:

    Hmmmmm…. we’re talking what? $15?

  62. #62
    On December 27th, 2008 at 9:18 am, PatriotRider said:

    I’m suprised they aren’t going after dihydrogen oxide. I understand that they spray it on crops, use it for industrial cleaning products, and it’s even in pet food.

  63. #63
    On December 27th, 2008 at 10:49 am, ArizonaNeanderthal said:

    Danceswithdachshunds said:
    Fire and meat – one of God’s greatest combinations.

    With or without the wine-except for the Liberals who always whine.

    :-)
    Brother, can you spare a carbon credit?

  64. #64
    On December 27th, 2008 at 11:35 am, TMoney said:

    Pet rocks, pet sticks, pet religions.

    I ain’t pettin’ that global warming monster; it’s a pitbull, sans lipstick, waiting to latch onto our nethers and feast.

  65. #65
    On December 27th, 2008 at 12:55 pm, Danceswithdachshunds said:

    Dontcha y’all wish that our lib run government could turn out to be just a spoof like this global warming story a while back?

    Speaking of pets… don’t sweat petty things and don’t pet sweaty things.

  66. #66
    On December 27th, 2008 at 12:58 pm, happyscrapper said:

    This is really funny. Where exactly is the money going? Who is administering it? What are they paying the people who administer the programs? What percentage of the money actually goes to the programs it is supposed to benefit? What if I think this is all an incredible scam and the people who buy into it are a bunch of idiots? Oh, yes, I do!

  67. #67
    On December 27th, 2008 at 1:04 pm, happyscrapper said:

    On December 26th, 2008 at 6:22 pm, Danceswithdachshunds said:
    If you haven’t been to http://icecap.us/ yet – you’re missing out on the fun of seeing the this AGW scam FINALLY start going down the toilet as global cooling gets an ever firmer grip on us.

    I went to that site and it looks like it has a lot of good stuff. However, the print was so small, this poor old duffer with the trifocals could not read it. Too bad. It might have been a good website, but it needs to be ENLARGED CONSIDERABLY. I will be leaving them a comment to that effect.

  68. #68
    On December 27th, 2008 at 1:20 pm, HeatherRadish said:

    The kiosks are made of trees that died of natural causes, by artisans wielding hand-powered tools, right? Glass, metal, and plastic all require energy to produce.

    We won’t even mention the servers processing your transaction at MasterCard.

  69. #69
    On December 28th, 2008 at 1:40 pm, Danceswithdachshunds said:

    happyscrapper said:

    … It might have been a good website, but it needs to be ENLARGED CONSIDERABLY. I will be leaving them a comment to that effect.

    Yes, the text is annoyingly tiny at http://www.icecap.us I need to increase the text size up about 200%; (doesn’t your browser have text zoom or text size control?)

  70. #70
    On December 30th, 2008 at 11:22 am, Teddy Kennedy said:

    Errah, so let me get this straight if I’m a lumberjack who loves my job, I could buy carbon credits on my next flight to offset my Gwhore based carbon footprint??!! Looks like I’d have to put in a few more hours of overtime and cut down a few more trees to help pay for this brilliant idea. I’ll have to let my son know about this concept. He is equally concerned about his carbon offsets. He works for Dow Chemical making CFCs.

  71. #71
    On December 30th, 2008 at 11:52 am, Teddy Kennedy said:

    Errah, I am installing kiosks in airports. I will collect money from stupid people and pray they reduce their stupid footprint. I’m planning on taking the company public with an IPO early next year. It will be listed on the NYSE as TEHNC (The Empereor Has No Clothes

  72. #72
    On December 30th, 2008 at 3:39 pm, StandardDeviation said:

    Are you ready to be a vegetarian?

    Being a vegetarian won’t help. Carbon dioxide is emitted by dying vegetation, probably more so than what animals release.

    Of course this is just a drop in the bucket compared to what is released by the oceans in response to increasing temperatures. (That’s right, carbon dioxide is an effect of warming, not the cause of it. Think about what happens when you leave a carbonated drink in the sun. The same thing happens with the oceans, only it takes about 800 years.)

  73. #73
    On January 1st, 2009 at 1:46 am, mattm said:

    On December 26th, 2008 at 4:04 pm, Cameron said:

    In my conversations with the global warming believers, I have yet to see anyone tell me what the “ideal” temperature is on Earth.

    I use that all the time. I let them do their speech, than say “ok, if you say it is X degrees warmer/will be X warmer in X years, what should it be with out man?” The never answer with any number just some “we know it is wrong BS.” Then I say “so you are telling me I should do what you want me to do when you cant even tell me what the earth should be.” I have never got a coherent response to that.

  74. #74
    On January 29th, 2009 at 9:57 am, Jimmie said:

    I have a great Idea….I will build a kiosk next to the carbon credits…being a pretty intelligent guy, and since I am not at this time using very much of my intelligence, at this time, I have a surplus so….. I will offer intelligence credits. On their certificate they will get a list of “actual” scientific sources, and the ability to read and comprehend ….all for …say 20 bucks…..maybe I could be the one to save the planet….no?

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