Liveblogging Israel’s operation against Hamas

By Michelle Malkin  •  December 27, 2008 02:00 PM

Dave at Israelly Cool is keeping tabs on Israel’s operation against Hamas.

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  1. #1
    On December 27th, 2008 at 2:08 pm, xplodeit said:

    Thank you

  2. #2
    On December 27th, 2008 at 2:09 pm, WrshpMzshn said:

    Good for Israel.
    Go get ‘em!

  3. #3
    On December 27th, 2008 at 2:10 pm, tamarah180 said:

    It is about time Israel bombed the snot out of HAMAS! Over the past 12 months (6 months of which was to have been a “Cease-Fire” period), Hamas has lobbed over 3000 rockets at BOTH ENDS of the country. Israel, bowing to international pressure has given food, energy and even money to the MURDERS. There have also been countless suicide bombers intercepted AND the EVIL B’s have put IEDs on their side of the gates to try to injure IDF folks who might chase the offenders across the fence.

    This is what they are doing with the land given to them for peace – attacking the givers. Oh, and then there were those viable businesses that were GIVEN to them so that they might have an income stream. The Jacka$$es demolished them and sold the metal in the hydroponic gardens for SCRAP. STUPID.

    I say, bomb Gaza back to the stone-ages…and hopefully a few really big bombs should miss their targets and land in Teheran at Ahmanutjob’s house.

    ;-)

  4. #4
    On December 27th, 2008 at 2:11 pm, DesertLover said:

    Just fo kick some major A$$ … enough of their BS already … and don’t stop to take names … you might let some of them get away …

  5. #5
    On December 27th, 2008 at 2:14 pm, Jet Jaguar said:

    Give ‘em hell.

  6. #6
    On December 27th, 2008 at 2:14 pm, zorro said:

    Thanks Michelle, I hope the IAF knocks the shite outa them.

  7. #7
    On December 27th, 2008 at 2:25 pm, zorro said:

    Thanks Michelle, I hope the IAF knocks the sh!$e out of them.

  8. #8
    On December 27th, 2008 at 2:33 pm, JHSII said:

    Just out of idle curiosity: When was the last time that the UN came down on the Palesitnians and told them not to attack Israeli civilians????

  9. #9
    On December 27th, 2008 at 2:34 pm, bjc said:

    Imagine LaRaza backed terrorists lobbing rockets in to San Diego from Mexico; The appropriate U.S. response would be to crush them; Israel is no different; Better to destroy the Hamas brand of Islamofascism before Hillary moves in to SoS and plays kissy-face with them!

  10. #10
    On December 27th, 2008 at 2:38 pm, riggword said:

    Regardless of Obama’s body, Svengali approach, and mesmerizing status will not stop Hamas.

    I pray that Obama will rise to the challenge and deny his leftest supports’ wimpy ways.

    “Is Obama ready for fighting? What will he do with Israel?”

  11. #11
    On December 27th, 2008 at 2:39 pm, single stack said:

    GO JEWS!
    Don’t stop til you finish the job this time.

  12. #12
    On December 27th, 2008 at 2:43 pm, FruNobulux said:

    Blast those idiots off the face of the earth.

  13. #13
    On December 27th, 2008 at 2:44 pm, jamesgreenidge said:

    Only wish there was (must be!) a far more “surgical” way of exterminating the actual terrorists involved than rely on high-collateral damage munitions. Israel must defend itself, however it must not appear almost KGB-hammer ruthless, putting away kids and families in the process. Surely stealth commando/spy tactics could do the job more “cleanly” than leave Isreal seeming the heavy-handed bully whom the U.S. must always concur with.

    James Greenidge
    Queens, New York

  14. #14
    On December 27th, 2008 at 2:46 pm, mike.musculus said:

    OT:

    posted on other threads..
    (pls forgive me MM!)

    *** Good New! ***

    I’ve just gotten a phone call from home!
    Dad’s awake! (martin musculus)

    He woke up at 1317EST!
    YEA!!!!

    What a BEAUTIFUL DAY!

  15. #15
    On December 27th, 2008 at 2:47 pm, tamarah180 said:

    Unfortunately, Palestinians PLAN well…their “military installations” are generally near or in one of the following: schools, hospitals and mosques. Then, when Israel attacks, they can claim how Israel “targeted” civilian areas.

    Vile PIGS!

    Religion of Peace my butt.

  16. #16
    On December 27th, 2008 at 2:48 pm, jjmurphy said:

    Bomb all those pre-human scum buckets back to the stone age. They contribute NOTHING to humanity.

  17. #17
    On December 27th, 2008 at 2:53 pm, blacktygrrrr said:

    Happy Chaka Khan everybody!

    I woke up, saw the news, realized what a great day it is to be an American Jew.

    We should pump in disco music the same way rock music humiliated Noriega.

    “Burn Gaza Burn…Disco Inferno.”

    Or perhaps the Thelma Houston hit that was in “Studio 54.”

    “Baby…My heart is burning like a Ketushah rocket for you.”

    Time to fire up some steaks, get a soda and chips, and enjoy the show.

    Israel forever.

    Respectfully,

    eric aka the Tygrrrr Express
    http://www.tygrrrrexpress.com

    P.S. The Jewish Journal now carries my column every day. :)

  18. #18
    On December 27th, 2008 at 3:10 pm, Leatherneck said:

    Go Israel!

    Where was the world when Hamas was firing rockets? But now, the world wants Israel to stop. BS!

    Get all those moon god worshiping POS! I bet they passed out candy after 911!

  19. #19
    On December 27th, 2008 at 3:17 pm, ArizonaNeanderthal said:

    Ok, not quite sending the message “Don’t you dare fire rockets at us” but rather “Don’t you dare fire rockets at us for too long.”

    [and then]The Rev. Federico Lombardi told Vatican Radio on Saturday that Israel’s offensive will be a “very serious blow” to Hamas but could also cause many innocent victims and damage peace prospects in the Holy Land.

    Israel’s offensive? Perhaps I need to re-read the article and my old ROTC books but would not this be better characterized as a Counter Offensive- as in Hitting Back?
    It is about time we went for the much touted Two State Solution: Israel for Jews-the West Bank for the various Christian groups and the muslims keep Arabia except for the oil fields. The northern boundary of Israel needs to be Damascus, South to Gaza Stripped of muslims.
    That the mohannedan heirs of Yasser Arafat control
    Bethlehem, are dominate and driving out the Christians from Nazareth are just two more reasons I would like to see them expelled. Add to that the dancing in the streets on 9/11.

    tamarah180
    Israel, bowing to international pressure has given food, energy and even money to the MURDERS

    So do we tamarah180, through the UN and other poorly thought out programs; it is time both of us stopped.
    We can substitute The Rev. Federico Lombardi of Vatican Radio. Let’s see how well he does in mohammedanstan, the twit.
    It was July 4th. 1976 I first became a BIG Fan of the IDF and their Special Operations Teams.

    Killing the bad guys generally IS the answer. But if that term offends use “neutralize”.

  20. #20
    On December 27th, 2008 at 3:17 pm, blacktygrrrr said:

    I posted a comment, and for some reason it did not take.

    Anyway, Happy Chaka Khan everybody!

    eric :) aka the Tygrrrr Express

  21. #21
    On December 27th, 2008 at 3:24 pm, Boomer said:

    That should teach the medieval savages to declare the truce over and then attack God’s chosen people without impunity. Take it to them Israel and don’t stop until you are through teaching them a lesson!

    ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒE (mo-lone lah-veh) Translation: Come and take them!

    OT: mike.musculus congratulation on the good news on your father! :)

  22. #22
    On December 27th, 2008 at 3:56 pm, nbarry said:

    The Israel Defense Ministry needs to learn the phrase “unconditional surrender”. It will come in handy when the UN pushes another dumb ceasefire.

  23. #23
    On December 27th, 2008 at 3:56 pm, letget said:

    Thank you Israel. Send all the rop to get their 70 gals. I just pray the U.S. will not throw Israel under the bus.
    L

  24. #24
    On December 27th, 2008 at 3:59 pm, rightisright said:

    Good Israel, there is no excuse the arab bombardment of Israel…the rest of the world stay out of it!
    I want one of you lefty peace loving fools to explain to me which type of mooslimb’s are these doing the bombings on Israel on a daily basis, the peaceful, moderate mooslimbs or the jihadists that want to kill everyone with a brain cell over an amoeba. IMHO their one in the same when you get to the bottom of it. And the only thing they understand is who has the biggest stick and who will use it…again GO ISRAEL!
    Best do it before the Zero is crowned, all he’ll do is er, uh, and, er. uh. and criticize the Jews, he’s a girly man with man boobs.
    Sorry, I went a little over board there, but I am already so sick of this empty headed, community organizer that thinks there’s 58 states, god what an idiot.

  25. #25
    On December 27th, 2008 at 4:11 pm, rightisright said:

    I think I figured out why so many whites voted for this numb skull, we know why most the blacks did, their racist, everything they claim we are, typical liberal thinking.
    If Odummy,saying their are 58 states and how many millions of whites voted for him. That’s a lot of dumb, guilt ridden, whities voting. Got love the guberment school system, another union success story.

  26. #26
    On December 27th, 2008 at 4:15 pm, FilmLadd said:

    On December 27th, 2008 at 2:44 pm, jamesgreenidge said:

    Only wish there was (must be!) a far more “surgical” way of exterminating the actual terrorists involved than rely on high-collateral damage munitions. Israel must defend itself, however it must not appear almost KGB-hammer ruthless, putting away kids and families in the process. Surely stealth commando/spy tactics could do the job more “cleanly” than leave Isreal seeming the heavy-handed bully whom the U.S. must always concur with.

    The fastest and most humane method of waging war is to wage it ALL-OUT, no-holds barred, no punches pulled.

    The population of the country you are fighting must have complete and total psychological capitulation… think Empire of Japan or Nazi Germany in WWII.

    Otherwise you must wage a perpetual anti-guerrilla warfare campaign, just as we are doing in Iraq and Afghanistan.

    “Humane wars” = wars without end.

    Unfortunately Israel has never learned this lesson and has never finished its war with its Mohammedan enemies.

  27. #27
    On December 27th, 2008 at 4:39 pm, bjc said:

    The two state solution is a two state illusion; You can’t negotiate with 7th century savages following an invented religion; The USA needs to call it what it is and stop with the PC bovine scatology; A religion of peace it is NOT!

  28. #28
    On December 27th, 2008 at 4:44 pm, Jet Jaguar said:

    On December 27th, 2008 at 2:44 pm, jamesgreenidge said:

    Israel must defend itself, however it must not appear almost KGB-hammer ruthless, putting away kids and families in the process.

    Those cowardly Islamofacists hide behind their children. The “collateral damage” is on the terrorists, not on the Israelis.

  29. #29
    On December 27th, 2008 at 4:46 pm, Jet Jaguar said:

    On December 27th, 2008 at 2:46 pm, mike.musculus said:

    Hey, Mike. Welcome back and Merry Christmas!

  30. #30
    On December 27th, 2008 at 4:49 pm, Jet Jaguar said:

    On December 27th, 2008 at 4:15 pm, FilmLadd said: #22

    Excellent point, FilmLadd!

  31. #31
    On December 27th, 2008 at 4:54 pm, rightisright said:

    On December 27th, 2008 at 2:46 pm, mike.musculus said:

    Great to see mike.

  32. #32
    On December 27th, 2008 at 5:03 pm, FruNobulux said:

    On December 27th, 2008 at 4:15 pm, FilmLadd said:
    The fastest and most humane method of waging war is to wage it ALL-OUT, no-holds barred, no punches pulled.

    Correct. There’s no sense doing anything less than playing to win decisively and authoritatively.

  33. #33
    On December 27th, 2008 at 5:20 pm, Juliethejarhead said:

    If something’s worth doing, it’s worth doing well.

    Kill ‘em all. Let G_d, Yahweh, Allah, Buddha, and the Hindu #1 Guy sort ‘em out.

  34. #34
    On December 27th, 2008 at 5:25 pm, tamarah180 said:
  35. #35
    On December 27th, 2008 at 5:29 pm, tamarah180 said:

    Time for Bricks…From the18.org blog:

    Saturday, December 27, 2008
    WISDOM

    In Woody Allen’s film masterpiece, “Manhattan,” there is a scene of Woody attending an Upper West Side of New York, lefty liberal, Jewish cocktail party.

    Woody’s dialogue is instructive.

    Woody, wandering through the party and trying to attract attention.

    WOODY

    Has anybody read that Nazis are gonna march in New Jersey, you know?

    We should go there, get some guys together.

    Get some bricks and baseball bats and explain things to ‘em.

    PRETENTIOUS PARTY GUEST

    There was this devastating satirical piece on that in the Times.

    WOODY

    Well, a satirical piece in the Times is one thing, but bricks get right to the point.

    2ND PRETENTIOUS PARTY GUEST

    But biting satire is better that physical force.

    WOODY

    No, physical force is better with Nazis. It’s hard to satirize a guy with shiny boots.

    The18 is metaphorically about baseball bats. We have lost all faith in biting satire.

    M

  36. #36
    On December 27th, 2008 at 5:29 pm, Politicalguano said:

    Is it possible that the only non-murderous mideast Muslim is a dead one? Are there any mideast Muslims who do not wish to murder every Jewish man, woman, and child? I think there are very few left since the murderous Muslims are only too happy to murder any anti-violence Muslim in their midst. The real question is why Israel hasn’t killed all the Palestinians or driven them from Gaza and then mined the whole Gaza strip, poisoned the land, and made it unfit for human habitation for a 1000 years. I admit I admire the Israeli restraint – I fear that I would have killed the worthless Palestinians all off long ago when there were only a fraction of them alive. Sooner or later they are all going to have to be killed. Imagine what they will be like in another 20 years. Imagine if they had already killed off the Jews – who would they turn on next? The kind of death worship they extoll doesn’t just go away.

  37. #37
    On December 27th, 2008 at 5:34 pm, jkoolpe said:

    I was more than thrilled to log on to my computer this morning and read this news! Go Israel! :) :)

    LONG, LONG overdue! Bomb them nonstop, DO NOT bow to any pressure to halt!

    Is there any particular place we should all be firing off emails and/or making calls to our various government officials to let them know to not only lay off Israel, but to also support them fully and completely?

    I’d gladly write off a few of these…anything to stop the foolishness of our State Department and a repeat of Rice telling Israel to adhere to a cease fire with Hezbollah a couple of years back, or Bush calling Israel’s response “heavy handed.”

  38. #38
    On December 27th, 2008 at 5:39 pm, mike.musculus said:

    Keeping this short, on break, middle of exercise. (No, we aren’t having a down day! “We’re at a Remote, People!” The Base Commander thinks this will keep people’s minds off home… [grin]{PS: I heard there’s a pool that its because his wife wouldn’t fly out from the States for Christmas, though…}). Don’t want to abuse the privilege of net access during breaks.

    Full details (as far as I can get them) posted after 1530 EST 29Dec08 here.

    On December 27th, 2008 at 3:24 pm, Boomer said:

    Thanks, Boomer! Even stuck in a MOPP suit for 78h can’t faze me now!

    On December 27th, 2008 at 4:46 pm, Jet Jaguar

    On December 27th, 2008 at 4:54 pm, rightisright said:

    Merry Christmas, (belated), Happy Hannuka[sp? - sorry]! Happy New Year (to come)!

    I’m not really back. I came here because many of Dad’s friends are here and I knew they’d want to know as soon as I was told the good news!

    I stand by what I said when I left, (but maybe with less heat and more rationality…). I like MM, but I have real problems with her tone in some cases, esspecially with people (her loyal readers) whom she calls friends.

    But I only bring that up by way of explanation. I think the real difference is that I believe The People have (purposely) been walled off from The Constitution. We are the final “check & balance”, and I see that attitude is unpopular, that most everyone feels that SCOTUS is the final arbiter. But RedPill covers that well enough, so my words are redundant.

    Michelle! Merry Christmas! Sorry for the OT, but this was the only way I could think of to share my joy at Dad’s Big Step Forward in his recovery!

    Merry Christmas Everyone!

    Break’s over, got to go!

  39. #39
    On December 27th, 2008 at 5:44 pm, rightisright said:

    Imagine if they had already killed off the Jews – who would they turn on next?

    uhhh, maybe Americans…if in doubt think about the works of CAIR: Criminal Arabs In Raged

  40. #40
    On December 27th, 2008 at 5:51 pm, tamarah180 said:

    mike.musculus:
    Our Fesival of Lights has various spelling because it is a transliteration from Hebrew to English.

    Hebrew letters are chet, nun, kaf sofit –
    Hanukkah, Chanukkah, Hanuka, Chanuka

    And now we are lighting up Gaza – Zeh kol tov – It’s all good.

    ;-)

  41. #41
    On December 27th, 2008 at 5:52 pm, tamarah180 said:

    Yep = didn’t preview it.

    *Festival

    Lest one thinks there is a new Hebrew word –

    LOL

  42. #42
    On December 27th, 2008 at 6:12 pm, jencab said:

    Cheering Israel on. I am tired of the MSM mischaracterizing what Israel is doing and are actually sympathetic to HAMAS.
    Give me a break.

  43. #43
    On December 27th, 2008 at 6:13 pm, KCK said:

    Gaza. Check.
    EU frontier at Poland. Check.
    Georgia. Check.
    Ukraine. Check.
    India – Pakistan. Check.
    Afghanistan. Check.
    Iraq. Check.
    Iran. Check.
    All very hot spots. Thanks for the liberal president, Democrats.

  44. #44
    On December 27th, 2008 at 6:17 pm, rightisright said:

    I’m tired of the MSM mischaracterizing it’s self as a news agency. When was it accepted news articles are opinion pieces?
    Ben must be rolling over in his grave.

  45. #45
    On December 27th, 2008 at 6:25 pm, rightisright said:

    “We will not leave our land, we will not raise white flags and we will not kneel except before God,” Haniyeh said.

    a statement from Reuters article. Looks good to me…just kill all the Hamas terrorists…they don’t want peace at any cost.

  46. #46
    On December 27th, 2008 at 6:41 pm, tonyr951 said:

    Kick those primitive screwheads back to the stone age

  47. #47
    On December 27th, 2008 at 7:04 pm, ArizonaNeanderthal said:

    On December 27th, 2008 at 6:41 pm, tonyr951 said:

    Kick those primitive screwheads back to the stone age

    Well put, thrifty too.

  48. #48
    On December 27th, 2008 at 7:06 pm, AmericaFirst said:

    “HAMAS THREATENS TO UNLEASH ‘HELL’”
    Translation: Hamas has 100 Reuters and AP Reporters in the Hamas dog house. They are prepared to let them loose to create more fake stories and photoshop images of innocent deaths.

  49. #49
    On December 27th, 2008 at 7:14 pm, onefed said:

    “HAMAS THREATENS TO UNLEASH ‘HELL’”
    Translation: Hamas has 100 Reuters and AP Reporters in the Hamas dog house. They are prepared to let them loose to create more fake stories and photoshop images of innocent deaths.

    HA! Too true. Frankly, I’m fairly tired of the whole formulaic set of events that follow an Israeli smackdown.

    To wit:

    1) Hamas pisses of Israel with cowardly little attacks

    2) Israeli government finally grows a small pair and gives them some attitude adjustment

    3) Hamas promises to REALLY kick their butts.

    Like a bad dog, a nice strong smack to the snout should adjust the hotheads and convince their moron public supporters to tell them to hit the road….but no, Israel will “exercise restraint” as always, and the suffering will continue.

  50. #50
    On December 27th, 2008 at 7:18 pm, tonyr951 said:

    On December 27th, 2008 at 7:04 pm, ArizonaNeanderthal said:

    On December 27th, 2008 at 6:41 pm, tonyr951 said:

    Kick those primitive screwheads back to the stone age

    Well put, thrifty too.

    I expected as much coming from you ;)

  51. #51
    On December 27th, 2008 at 7:21 pm, ArizonaNeanderthal said:

    Drudge Report:
    UN demands ‘immediate’ halt to attacks

    In a statement released Saturday, UN Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon called for an immediate halt to all violence in both Gaza and southern Israel.

    When Yessir Arafat spoke before the UN wearing his revolver the UN showed EXACTLY who they were. This is the UN who handled the Genocide in Rawanda by “taking copious notes” which did so much good for the dead.

    My Fantasy Headline:
    US reducing Cluster Bomb inventory, Israeli contractor chosen; C-17s on way to Tel Aviv. Stop. Palestinians leaving en mass. UN Secretary-General Ban Ki-moonStop messes pants. Stop.
    JUST IN: B-1s disguised as C-17s on way to Dearbornistan and Turtle Bay! Stop.

  52. #52
    On December 27th, 2008 at 7:53 pm, ammo john said:

    jamesgreenidge said:
    Only wish there was (must be!) a far more “surgical” way of exterminating the actual terrorists involved than rely on high-collateral damage munitions.

    Israel buys a lot of our precision guided weapons and they know how to use them. The latest ones small enough to destroy what’s inside while leaving the outside intact. The high-collateral munitions are the basic ‘dumb bombs’, of which hardly anyone uses anymore.

  53. #53
    On December 27th, 2008 at 8:10 pm, gandolphxx said:

    It is well past time for israel to do this – screw world opinion, especially from the US.

    Can you imagine the reaction from the US if Mexico fired rockets into SanDiego every day.

  54. #54
    On December 27th, 2008 at 8:28 pm, happy2behere said:

    If Mexico fired rockets ocasionally into San Diego, would we have waited until the holidays during the transition from the lame duck to the pacifist? Just a thought.

  55. #55
    On December 27th, 2008 at 8:52 pm, xplodeit said:

    On December 27th, 2008 at 4:15 pm, FilmLadd said:

    Well said!

  56. #56
    On December 27th, 2008 at 8:52 pm, Boomer said:

    On December 27th, 2008 at 5:39 pm, mike.musculus said:
    Thanks, Boomer! Even stuck in a MOPP suit for 78h can’t faze me now!

    One thing I don’t mind about being retired and simple service is not having to suck rubber in those charcoal suits anymore. :lol:

  57. #57
    On December 27th, 2008 at 8:55 pm, reland1 said:

    The character of Ishmael and his descendants is vividly described in the Old Testament.

    “He shall be as a wild ass among men; his hand shall be against every man, and every man’s hand against him” (Genesis 16:12).

  58. #58
    On December 27th, 2008 at 8:57 pm, Ardmoor said:

    Easy guys. The Israeli response is fully justified in my view but please let’s hear less from the “Budweiser Commandos”. These are people we’re talking about on both sides (especially children). The terrorists, death to them all.

  59. #59
    On December 27th, 2008 at 9:00 pm, jsr said:

    Can you imagine the reaction from the US if Mexico fired rockets into SanDiego every day.

    Yes. Democrats would call for restraint and an end to US provocations against a poor third world country. Along with massive aid to end the root cause: Mexican poverty, which is the result of American imperialist exploitation. Code Pink and other moonbats hold massive peace rallies singing “Give Peace a Chance”. Michael Moore makes documentary exposing that Bush-Cheney-Rove secretly sold rockets and encouraged their use in attacks so they would have a pretext to stamp out freedom here.

    I wish I was joking.

  60. #60
    On December 27th, 2008 at 9:19 pm, The_Livewire said:

    Kick ‘em hard, Kick ‘em in the teeth.

    Time to take back Gaza and have some nice urban renewal.

  61. #61
    On December 27th, 2008 at 10:24 pm, nbarry said:

    For those who are upset at MSM coverage of Israel, I recommend http://www.honestreporting.com. For the last eight years, they have been exposing the biases and fakery in reporting on Israel’s conflicts, targeting the NY Times, the BBC, Reuters, CNN and the Associated Press among numerous offenders and sometimes even obtaining retractions from them. A pet peeve of the Honest Reporting people is the MSM calling terrorists “militants.” We see this all the time.

  62. #62
    On December 27th, 2008 at 10:26 pm, Werekoala said:

    How about this: a small (+/-4 pound) “dumb bomblet” with a camera on the nose cone designed to home in on the particular shade of green that they seem to favor for headbands. Drop it from around 40,000 feet, (with no warhead – just 4 lbs of steel from that height should be sufficient) and little to no collateral damage. Once they catch on, of course, it will stop working, but for those first few mass-marches and funerals..

  63. #63
    On December 27th, 2008 at 11:02 pm, jsmiddleton4 said:

    I’m sorry but rlandi Ishmael and those that followed Islam are not one and the same.

  64. #64
    On December 27th, 2008 at 11:33 pm, Speakup said:

    Perhaps Olmert is catching on to the fact that there is no measured response with people who only want you all dead.

  65. #65
    On December 27th, 2008 at 11:35 pm, Flyoverman said:

    Israel should just turn all of Gaza into a smoking hole. It’s time they rid themselves of that rat’s nest.

    Peace process my keester. The only way to win peace is unconditional surrender. PERIOD.

  66. #66
    On December 27th, 2008 at 11:38 pm, sonofdy said:

    One thing I don’t mind about being retired and simple service is not having to suck rubber in those charcoal suits anymore.

    The new ones are much better. The idiots over on huffpo are blaming israel of course.

  67. #67
    On December 28th, 2008 at 12:04 am, AlohaGuy said:

    Unfortunately Israel has never learned this lesson and has never finished its war with its Mohammedan enemies.

    Someday…

  68. #68
    On December 28th, 2008 at 12:58 am, right_on said:

    What do the Palestinians have to offer humanity, other than murderous leaders, parents, children, and a 2nd century mentality? The next generation of murderers?

    Israel should send them all to Hell…the place they will feel at home.

  69. #69
    On December 28th, 2008 at 1:01 am, nraendowment said:

    The only thing those terrorist vermin understand is violence. I’m happy to see that the Israelis have finally struck back in kind. I just hope they don’t back off before they finish the job of wiping out Hamas.

  70. #70
    On December 28th, 2008 at 1:16 am, Marc said:

    It won’t be long before both Nicholas Kristof and Roger Cohen of the NY Times write anguished columns about how difficult it is for them to criticize Israel but after all, Israel must withdraw to the June 1967 borders and had Israel withdrawn to the 1967 borders years ago, peace would have reigned. Kristof will quote Bet T’Slem and talk about Israeli “human rights abuses” and Cohen will write about the need for Israeli withdrawal. The NY Times will follow with an anguished editorial blasting Israel and in the last sentence say that Hamas should stop its use of “homemade rockets”.

  71. #71
    On December 28th, 2008 at 7:02 am, cngerms said:

    Peace will come ONLY when one side is totally defeated and devastated. Surrender is NOT an option with the Palestinians as they do not honor anything but death! I pray it’s the defeat of the Palestinians we’ll witness, and that Israel will NOT relent until that defeat is accomplished; no phony ceasefires, finish the job once and for all.

  72. #72
    On December 28th, 2008 at 8:52 am, rplatt said:

    In a street fight or in a war you must never stop fighting lest you lose or die. Anybody that thinks you can fight for while then rest and begin again is a damn fool. Israel needs to decisively crush those terrorist bastards.

  73. #73
    On December 28th, 2008 at 9:09 am, ArizonaNeanderthal said:

    The idiots over on huffpo are blaming Israel of course.

    Idiot being the operative here.
    Budweiser Commandos? I would prefer the term “Those fed up with this terrorist nonsense” but I am glad Israel is hitting back. Terrorist have too long been allowed sanctuary. All the world must know that giving sanctuary to terrorist has a price. They WILL stop giving it when they know they will have to pay a price- a terrible price.

  74. #74
    On December 28th, 2008 at 9:13 am, lgm said:

    They say “insane” means repeating the same behavior and expecting a different result. Israelis should know by now that killing, starving, and stealing from Palestinians will not make their pathetic attempt at counterattack stop.

  75. #75
    On December 28th, 2008 at 9:15 am, jjmurphy said:

    Easy guys. The Israeli response is fully justified in my view but please let’s hear less from the “Budweiser Commandos”. These are people we’re talking about on both sides (especially children). The terrorists, death to them all.

    I don’t think any civilized person wants innocents killed. (I don’t include Hamas, Hezbollah, etc. as civilized.) But the muslims have had sufficient time to stop their fundamentalist groups from engaging in terrorism. They have chosen to ignore it, and seem to support it. Hamas uses civilians, especially children as shields. How do you fight such a culture of death? I really don’t know of any way other than all out destruction of ALL of your enemy until they concede complete, humiliating, and unconditional defeat.

    Yes, it is easy to say these things in the comfort of your safe home. However, sometimes more pain now leads to less pain later.

  76. #76
    On December 28th, 2008 at 9:19 am, lgm said:

    From Juan Cole (a reliable, if hot headed, source)

    Israel blames Hamas for primitive homemade rocket attacks on the nearby Israeli city of Sederot. In 2001-2008, these rockets killed about 15 Israelis and injured 433, and they have damaged property. In the same period, Gazan mortar attacks on Israel have killed 8 Israelis.

    Since the Second Intifada broke out in 2000, Israelis have killed nearly 5000 Palestinians, nearly a thousand of them minors. Since fall of 2007, Israel has kept the 1.5 million Gazans under a blockade, interdicting food, fuel and medical supplies to one degree or another. Wreaking collective punishment on civilian populations such as hospital patients denied needed electricity is a crime of war.

  77. #77
    On December 28th, 2008 at 9:34 am, sonofdy said:

    LGM of course supports the side PROMISING genocide. You post LGM proves only one thing. Hamas should stop shooting Israel with the rockets. Just because they are lousy shots, doesn’t mean they are allowed to randomly shoot into any house they want. Would it make you feel better if the murderers in gaza were allowed to fire bomb israeli pre-schoolers again? Probably since this is what your heros have PROMISED to do.

  78. #78
    On December 28th, 2008 at 9:36 am, sonofdy said:

    In other weords LGM, don’t bring a knife to a gun fight.

  79. #79
    On December 28th, 2008 at 9:38 am, JHSII said:

    I see lgm is blaming Israel and siding with the terrorists – no surprise here.

    I wonder how lgm would feel, if every day someone fired a few bullets into his house. If every day that person talked loudly about how lgm needed to be exterminated. If every day that person said that lgm’s house belonged to them and they were going to kill lgm to get it back.
    Would lgm just lay down and die like he expects Israel to?

  80. #80
    On December 28th, 2008 at 9:43 am, FilmLadd said:

    On December 28th, 2008 at 9:19 am, lgm said:

    From Juan Cole (a reliable, if hot headed, source)

    And he is reliable because…?

    Wreaking collective punishment on civilian populations such as hospital patients denied needed electricity is a crime of war.

    No, it is a consequence of war, you dribbling idiot.

    The only “crime” Israel has perpetrated is its infuriating capacity to defer to fifth columnists such as yourself and try to wage “humane” wars.

    “Humane wars” = perpetual, never ending wars.

    If Churchill, Roosevelt and Stalin had chosen to wage war according to your rules, we would still be fighting the Nazis today.

    And you would be making posts about how we are committing war crimes by not allowing German hospitals in France their electricity…

  81. #81
    On December 28th, 2008 at 9:51 am, JHSII said:

    FilmLadd – you made one mistake.

    If Churchill, Roosevelt and Stalin had chosen to wage war according to lgm’s rules, we would still be under Nazi occupation today. We would have lost WWII.

  82. #82
    On December 28th, 2008 at 9:57 am, ArizonaNeanderthal said:

    lgm said:
    Since the Second Intifada broke out in 2000, Israelis have killed nearly 5000 Palestinians, nearly a thousand of them minors. Since fall of 2007, Israel has kept the 1.5 million Gazans under a blockade, interdicting food, fuel and medical supplies to one degree or another.

    If the Gazans would STOP supporting and giving sanctuary to the rocket firing terrorist Israel would not have to blockade Gaza. That is what you do in a war-blockade your enemy and try and stop his war making capabilities.

    For the so called innocent Gazans let me suggest this: When you see that damn fool firing into Israel MOVE NOW-artillery or such just might be incoming any minute now. If you hold your child’s hand while in front of an oncoming train it is NOT the train’s fault when you and your child get crushed.

    The Jews TRIED to set up a decent Gaza where the Arabs could have their own country. It turned into a rocket platform.
    Rules of the gun fight:
    A) Have a Gun
    B) Keep firing until the fight is over
    C) Re-load immediately-it might not really be over

  83. #83
    On December 28th, 2008 at 9:57 am, granite said:

    On December 28th, 2008 at 9:38 am, JHSII said:

    I see lgm is blaming Israel and siding with the terrorists – no surprise here.

    Agreed…he is, after all a fool.

    I wonder how lgm would feel, if every day someone fired a few bullets into his house. If every day that person talked loudly about how lgm needed to be exterminated. If every day that person said that lgm’s house belonged to them and they were going to kill lgm to get it back.
    Would lgm just lay down and die like he expects Israel to?

    Well, maybe he’d fire a few random shots back, and then lie down.

    I must edit my comment about his being a fool…he is a dangerous, goddam fool.

  84. #84
    On December 28th, 2008 at 9:59 am, sonofdy said:

    And he is reliable because…?

    Because LGM really really really wants him to be. In fact LGM’s source is a jihadist supporting, usefull idiot.

  85. #85
    On December 28th, 2008 at 10:06 am, sonofdy said:

    The US, which for some odd reason holds an irrational hatred of the Palestinians, branded the dead Gaza policemen “thugs” and blamed the massive aerial strikes solely on Hamas, the fundamentalist Muslim party that controls Gaza.

    Another quote fromLGM’s usefull idiot. Clearly LGM is a usefull idiot for a usefull idiot to use to spread is anti-jewish propoganda. They forget that every single time Israel has given up land to the palestinians, the palestinians have used it to kill israelis.

  86. #86
    On December 28th, 2008 at 10:10 am, tamarah180 said:

    lgm:

    Perhaps you should try reading NEWS instead of OPINION PIECES.

    Israel has not only allowed “humanitarian aid” into Gaza, they have GIVEN food, gas, and even money. Israel, in their earlier stupidity, even supplied some of the GUNS that Fatah uses. It was PROVEN that a couple of people were shot to death with those rifles – as in ISRAELI citizen just going about their own business.

    AND the US, UN, European moonbats and other ARAB countries have all dumped MILLIONS of dollars.euros of aid into the area – including sending DOCTORS and MEDICATIONS.

    Much of the money has gone to leaders skimming (ask Suha Arafat about her residence in France and shopping trips to buy Chanel clothes.) not to the “poor, starving people in Gaza”, who are actually NOT starving. It is PROPAGANDA. Those burquas are as big as houses.

    And then there are the “poor Palestinians who only need to see a GOOD ISRAELI DOCTOR” that get into the ambulances to transport WEAPONS AND BOMBS around the area.

    PULL YOUR HEAD OUT OF YOU REAR.

    God help our educational system since it is obvious the “teachers” haven’t taken the time to learn important skills like critical analysis and simple math.

  87. #87
    On December 28th, 2008 at 10:23 am, carole said:

    Give the Huffpo’s some learnin’ this a.m. lay it out for them…3000 or more rockets fired at Israel just this year. Write your elected officials in your support of Israel. Email them, call them. Write editorials in your newspapers. How can anything be heard if we are silent. The MSM has chosen Terrorism over sovereignty, just as they chose Obama, do not be silent.

  88. #88
    On December 28th, 2008 at 10:42 am, Send_Me said:

    A few months back Joseph Farah at World Net Daily wrote a great synopsis concerning the history of this conflict. It’s a good, quick read.

  89. #89
    On December 28th, 2008 at 10:43 am, rambler said:

    Oh, the poor oppressed, rock throwing people! If they really wanted their own state, they would have behaved like rational people and had a state by now. Instead, they prefered to do what is easiest; whine, lie and behave like thugs.

  90. #90
    On December 28th, 2008 at 10:44 am, RabbidSquirrel said:

    For the so called innocent Gazans let me suggest this: When you see that damn fool firing into Israel MOVE NOW-artillery or such just might be incoming any minute now.

    I like what the Isreali ambassador just said on TV:

    If you lie down and go to sleep with a rocket, dont be surprised if you dont wake up.

    —————-

    One rule I have always followed. Dont F with the Israelis.

    But I thought they had gone all pansy on us over the past few years. Maybe they have finally been able to find a reliable source of testosterone therapy. And if we’re lucky, once they’re done with Gaza, they can take out the SanFran Bay area next.

  91. #91
    On December 28th, 2008 at 11:14 am, FilmLadd said:

    On December 28th, 2008 at 9:51 am, JHSII said:

    FilmLadd – you made one mistake.

    If Churchill, Roosevelt and Stalin had chosen to wage war according to lgm’s rules, we would still be under Nazi occupation today. We would have lost WWII.

    Well, I don’t know. The infuriating thing about LGM’s (collectivist) war-waging rules is that they allow for neither win nor loss. They perpetuate war forever.

    Under their stupid terms, we would have lurched back and forth between “compassionate cease-fires” and “protective offensives” ad infinitum – just like the U.S. in Iraq, & Afghanistan, Israel’s constant dithering against the Mohammadens, etc…

  92. #92
    On December 28th, 2008 at 11:14 am, sonofdy said:

    Seriously LGM, when has israel ever benefited by giving in to arab terrorists? When?????

  93. #93
    On December 28th, 2008 at 11:20 am, TK-421 said:

    I wouldn’t count on much guys, this is what, the 4th assualt this year? The Israeli’s have caught up with the western world, they can’t stomach too much blood, however for the likes of Hamas the back is on the wall, they are not nearly as well equiped, but they have the will, and that right there is equal to any smart bomb. Look at Vietnam or the Soviet War in Afghanistan, or WW2 Japan, who carved an Empire with Infantry who were poorly equiped but highly motivated and would not have surrenderd had the goverment done so.

    This will end in stalemate as the public will isn’t there and the inclussion (See culture of War) of women in the combat arms of Israel has led to a down turn in over all training ending up with the US, More Tech less sweet policy, which can not win and Infantry War. And Rampler do be careful with what you say, the United States only became a nation buy using the same thugish actions as you say.

    Armed uprisings, terrorist actions, such as killing British Soldiers while they slept on Chirstmas Eve, they are using legitmate tactics, in war you don’t screw around or be a police man, you fightand you fight to win. And thats only done by sweeping your enemy away to the point resistance is futial. Hence why our wars are nearing 8 years.

  94. #94
    On December 28th, 2008 at 11:22 am, nuss said:

    Here’s a conspiracy theory for you: lgm is a plant in this blog to stir up the pot. How else can you explain the consistant contrarian points of view and the extreme left wing lunacy that even most left wingers wouldn’t support? If lgm is not a plant, then perhaps “it” is just someone who gets their jollies out of stirring the pot. LGM is obviously an intelligent, or at least coherent, person. That’s why I don’t believe lgm really believes all the crap he or shes dumps on this blog.

  95. #95
    On December 28th, 2008 at 11:34 am, RabbidSquirrel said:

    On December 28th, 2008 at 11:22 am, nuss said:

    That’s why I don’t believe lgm really believes all the crap he or shes dumps on this blog.

    Oh… my bad. We’re supposed to post real stuff on here? Hmmm, so am I supposed to post real stuff on Kos too?

    @$%@%, I thought this was a text based Second Life.

  96. #96
    On December 28th, 2008 at 11:58 am, IndependentTom said:

    I guess I’m one of the “simple folk”. I don’t like war, but if war has to waged it needs to be punitive.

    I believe that if a nation/state chooses to put itself on a war footing it needs to be committed to winning that war.

    No restraint.

    No consideration of “international opinion”

    War should be made so ugly that it really is a last resort.

    Having said that, I find no fault with Israel on this. I believe that Hamas has provoked Israel.

    And the consequences are the same as if you whacked a hornet’s nest with a stick.

  97. #97
    On December 28th, 2008 at 12:24 pm, TheCityTroll said:

    Today the Ayatholla called for all muslims to attack Israel.

    Here is a long interesting article of the brainwashing of the arab public. It is going to run tommorrow in the Philly Inquirer but you can read the article here, it is a long post though
    http://thecitytroll.blogspot.com/2008/12/long-but-worth-read.html

  98. #98
    On December 28th, 2008 at 12:27 pm, GaryG said:

    Go Israel and don’t let the Bush gang tell you when to stop this time.

  99. #99
    On December 28th, 2008 at 12:28 pm, TheCityTroll said:

    that article will actually run in the Philly Bulletin tommorrow

  100. #100
    On December 28th, 2008 at 12:32 pm, nuss said:

    On December 28th, 2008 at 11:34 am, RabbidSquirrel said:
    Oh… my bad. We’re supposed to post real stuff on here? Hmmm, so am I supposed to post real stuff on Kos too?

    Hey RabbidSquirrel, its just a theory that might explain some of the suspicious behavior of lgm. All theories need further testing. Happy Holidays, Merry Christmas, Happy New Year

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