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1. #1
   On December 27th, 2008 at 10:04 am, prendad said:

   I wonder how ugly it’s going to get when the masses find out that our new president is NOT the panacea that he promised to be? When the money runs out and the promises go unfulfilled, what will the legions say about the liberal savior???

2. #2
   On December 27th, 2008 at 10:07 am, Boomer said:

   We have lost lots of jobs in Idaho too as well as revenue in the state coffers. Our Governor Butch Otter has actually decided to do something radical. Cut spending by the State’s government, but we live a state led by a conservative. The only stupid thing I’ve seen is the doubling of the cost of unemployment insurance by a State Commission, which will only guarantee small businesses will have to either cut staff or delay hiring new workers. Count me has happy to live in a state that has some concept of being somewhat fiscally responsible compared to so many liberally ruled states on our Western border.

   ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒE (mo-lone lah-veh) Translation: Come and take them!

3. #3
   On December 27th, 2008 at 10:07 am, Tom Blogical said:

   Oh, give ole Ted a break. It costs a lot of money to dig up dirt on all us Ohio taxpayers.

   /obvious sarcasm.

4. #4
   On December 27th, 2008 at 10:25 am, rightwingrocker said:

   Yeah big surprise here ….

   RWR
   http://www.rightwingrocker.com

5. #5
   On December 27th, 2008 at 10:31 am, jsr said:

   So far, Strickland said, Ohio’s school money has largely been spared the budget knife, but if revenue projections are accurate, cuts will be required in the balanced budget that he must submit by Feb. 2

   The Democrat reaction to an education budget crises will be to demand two years of mandatory pre-k because 13 years of government education has produces such stellar results that it is only natural to to want more. And they can produce studies that will show that it will actually lower the cost to society by producing more productive, well rounded citizens blah, blah, blah…

6. #6
   On December 27th, 2008 at 10:35 am, rightisright said:

   Is it just a coincidence, but has anyone notice when a city, county or state is in financial trouble it’s blue state(liberal)95 % of the time…what ever could be the reason for this? Gonna have to think about this for awhile.

   I remember when the states found that golden goose the tobacco settlement money, they thought they were in hog heaven, then the dumb a$$es killed the golden goose, spent all the money on frivolous things rather than planning for the inevitable raining day. Now I have a suggestion for these spendthrifts, SUCK IT UP!

7. #7
   On December 27th, 2008 at 10:38 am, Paul-Cincy said:

   Yes, Ohio is hurting because our manufacturing base is drying up. A few years ago, Governor (now US Senator) George Voinivich (R) cried when someone asked him about some state funding issue, breaking down and saying they didn’t have the money to pay for it. At least he was a fiscal hawk. He was crying not for more money, but because he was bound to balance the budget, he knew he had to do it. Last week they closed the DMV closest to where I live. The horror!

   “Rahm, it’s Ted. You’ve never failed me and I need $5 billion.”

   Wow. He really said that. It doesn’t bode well for fiscal restraint that the troubled states are mostly if not all blue states and their Govs are generally Democrats. Do you think politics might play a role in this? Do you think?

8. #8
   On December 27th, 2008 at 10:39 am, iamsaved said:

   Maybe they could ask Joe the Plumber if he’d go on a speaking tour to help raise money for Ohio.

9. #9
   On December 27th, 2008 at 10:43 am, rambler said:

   Get out the violins!

10. #10
    On December 27th, 2008 at 10:59 am, ohioTom said:

    As an Ohio resident I’m appalled at the pay and benefits of state employees. Jones-Kelly who was the apparent mastermind behind the snooping of Joe the Plumber was making about 150K. All managerial state employees at her level and below should be required to take 50% pay and benefit cuts immediately.

    I’ve heard though am not sure that State Police get some kind of benefit like 75 or 90% of their pay for the rest of their lives. Who in the private sector gets that kind of benefit?!

    Strickland, if he was doing his conscientious best (guffaw, guffaw), should revisit all state employee contracts and consider STEEP pay and benefit cuts.

11. #11
    On December 27th, 2008 at 11:30 am, tarpon said:

    Like a cancer, bailouts are.

12. #12
    On December 27th, 2008 at 12:22 pm, Pat said:

    Why don’t we all start calling the Office of the President Elect and asking for money? Might be a nice protest.

13. #13
    On December 27th, 2008 at 12:27 pm, teachem2 said:

    If all these bailouts go forward, we will be looking back fondly at the “good old days” with Carter.

14. #14
    On December 27th, 2008 at 12:34 pm, jsmiddleton4 said:

    Here is where I think it will get very ugly very fast. When folks who have mortgages, debt, etc., with any of these financial institutions that are receiving bail out funds who then in turn bust the chops of the “little” people for payments. If and when the injustice of these huge companies getting a pass who then in turn do not extend grace to folks who are in debt to those very same companies becomes clear, the regular folks are not going to take it sitting down. This is not a new problem by the way. If or when I dare say it becomes obvious these companies are taking bail out money and hording it instead of giving us, the source of that bail out money, a break it will get ugly and very ugly very fast.

    Matt 18:23-34
    23 “Therefore, the kingdom of heaven is like a king who wanted to settle accounts with his servants.
    24 As he began the settlement, a man who owed him ten thousand talents was brought to him.
    25 Since he was not able to pay, the master ordered that he and his wife and his children and all that he had be sold to repay the debt.
    26 “The servant fell on his knees before him. ‘Be patient with me,’ he begged, ‘and I will pay back everything.’
    27 The servant’s master took pity on him, canceled the debt and let him go.
    28 “But when that servant went out, he found one of his fellow servants who owed him a hundred denarii. He grabbed him and began to choke him. ‘Pay back what you owe me!’ he demanded.
    29 “His fellow servant fell to his knees and begged him, ‘Be patient with me, and I will pay you back.’
    30 “But he refused. Instead, he went off and had the man thrown into prison until he could pay the debt.
    31 When the other servants saw what had happened, they were greatly distressed and went and told their master everything that had happened.
    32 “Then the master called the servant in. ‘You wicked servant,’ he said, ‘I canceled all that debt of yours because you begged me to.
    33 Shouldn’t you have had mercy on your fellow servant just as I had on you?’
    34 In anger his master turned him over to the jailers to be tortured, until he should pay back all he owed.
    NIV

15. #15
    On December 27th, 2008 at 12:54 pm, RabbidSquirrel said:

    I’m just so disgusted with everything that is going on now days. Then on top of it all, I pay a heavy tax chunk, receive no tax write offs, pay child support FOR a child I have full custody of (figure that out) and I am not in the running for any stimulus checks.

    I am contemplating taking myself out of the tax base. Then they can do it all without my money. We’ll see how it goes over the next few days.

16. #16
    On December 27th, 2008 at 1:17 pm, TXGator said:

    Squirrel, I’m with you….I pay more than my fair share. We are getting close to the tipping point in this country, with more people receiving benefits than paying into the system.
    I think I’m out this year. Maybe a move to the mountains after I cash out. It’s time to simplify and live a nice quiet life out in the country. I’ll watch the government from afar, but I will not support these tyrants.
    We need another revolution, as we are ‘led’ by sycophants and narcissists.

17. #17
    On December 27th, 2008 at 1:18 pm, denver republican said:

    As a Coloradan, I feel it is my responsibility to bail out Ohio’s budget.

    Oh wait, that doesn’t sound right, does it?

18. #18
    On December 27th, 2008 at 1:29 pm, By Choice said:

    Most states and municipalities are required to have a zero based budget–no short fall–no profit. Two years ago AZ had a huge surplus they hurried to spend, as required, on all kinds of fun, but unnecessary things. This year we are 2 billion behind and we are a “red” state. The real problem is illegal immigration and its resulting expense to the general public. The top ten states in the deepest holes financially are states where illegal immigration is the highest–just a conincidence–NOT!! Other states that are in trouble–Democrap gov’s and all the benefits that go with them.

    Just wait until the seven dwarfs (Obama, Reid, Pelousi, Frank, Dodd Biden and Emanuel) are running the country with their 3 TRILLION plan to fix everything–with no clear plan on where the money is coming from.

19. #19
    On December 27th, 2008 at 2:12 pm, thefoundingfathers said:

    Buyers’ remorse sets in for a large number of Obama voters in 10 months…9 months…8 months…..?????

20. #20
    On December 27th, 2008 at 3:47 pm, Wellsy said:

    “At this point in the financial crisis, federal aid is the only lifeline left for Ohio.”

    This kind of thinking leaves no room for budget-cutting or some sort of creative or imaginative solution to this problem. The manufacturing base in Ohio is drying up, and throwing good $ after bad ain’t gonna help.

21. #21
    On December 27th, 2008 at 3:54 pm, xblade said:

    Buyers’ remorse sets in for a large number of Obama voters in 10 months…9 months…8 months…..?????

    Obama voters are too stupid to suffer buyer’s remorse. More likely they’ll be saying “thank you sir, can I have another”.

22. #22
    On December 27th, 2008 at 4:09 pm, txvet2 said:

    Throughout the campaign we were inundated with trolls whining about how uninformed and unqualified Sarah Palin was. Now we’re treated to this little soap opera.

    She’s dismayed by her own (lack of a) voting record? What happened – did her butler forget to go down and vote for her? She “forgot” she hadn’t voted? This woman brings a whole different perspective to the term “ditz”.

23. #23
    On December 27th, 2008 at 4:40 pm, ArizonaNeanderthal said:

    On December 27th, 2008 at 1:29 pm, By Choice said:

    Most states and municipalities are required to have a zero based budget–no short fall–no profit. Two years ago AZ had a huge surplus they hurried to spend, as required

    For years Arizona had what is commonly called a “Rain Day Fund” -Arizona’s Emergency Economic Relief Funds. Just what the legal authority was I do not know but several times is was big enough to allow for TAX CUTS. In several of our uglier recessions it got quite low, per it’s reason for being, but it was there to prevent a shortfall.

    Up jumps J-No, aka Governor Janet Napolitano, and surprise, surprise the Rainy Day is used for Kindergartens, fun projects of all kinds and that biggest Gravy Boat of all: ROADS NOT DRIVEN , Senate Bill 1049. Sad to say several of our big name Republicans joined with the minority other party to pass that one. Of course they would not be so crass as to call it a Gravy Boat so they invented the term Statewide Transportation Acceleration Need.

    Ok denver republican after you bail out Ohio Arizona needs you. We need more ROADS NOT DRIVEN, Gravy Boat, what ever, we need it.

    Good grief, you don’t expect US to pay for it?

24. #24
    On December 27th, 2008 at 10:04 pm, Dandapani said:

    Ohio is a nanny state: tax and spend. Every level of the government from state down to the local township dog catcher taxes everything from income tax, to phone, electric, cab, auto, and so on. When I left there in 2004 and moved to FL, I got a “raise” as my income tax fell from 5+% state, 2% city (Columbus) and 1% school to 0%!!! After we left, the RINO governor raised fees on everything!

25. #25
    On December 27th, 2008 at 10:18 pm, The_Livewire said:

    Have I said recently how contemptable our Governour is?

26. #26
    On December 28th, 2008 at 12:46 am, Member-VRWC said:

    STRICKLAND: Oh, I just don’t know what we’re going to if Uncle Sam doesn’t throw a boatload of cash our way and get us out of this mess we’ve created.

    Come on, Ted, grow a pair. Your whimpering is pathetic.

    To all you liberal freeloaders out there. Better get your bailout while $5B is still $5B. The money supply as we know it is running out. When it does, they’ll have to print more. Then they’ll devalue. So you won’t need $5B anymore, you’ll need $50B to take care of what $5B used to cover.

    To put a modern spin on an old saying, a trillion here and a trillion there and before you know it, you’re talking about real money!

27. #27
    On December 28th, 2008 at 1:32 am, PKAmmoTroop said:

    On December 27th, 2008 at 2:12 pm, thefoundingfathers said:

    Buyers’ remorse sets in for a large number of Obama voters in 10 months…9 months…8 months…..?????

    Since the announcement of Obama’s anti-NASA initiative pretty much every Obamadrone I know is kicking themselves in the butts.

28. #28
    On December 28th, 2008 at 8:39 am, travlinman said:

    Not much to add to the comments already posted except: ‘as you sow, so shall you reap”. Every dumb-a$$ who voted for Obama, to retain Murtha, and all the rest of the scumbags in Washington, you have ensured that this country will go completely down the toilet and flounder for a good while. It is going to get uglier than we can imagine. Let’s pray for divine intervention to give our ‘leaders’ a Saul experience, as happened to the future Apostle Paul on the road to Damascus.

29. #29
    On December 28th, 2008 at 9:10 am, 57fender said:

    He’s just getting in line for the easy money:

    #1 – California
    #2 – New York
    #3 – Illinois
    #4 – Michigan
    #5 – Ohio

    Unfortunately, the rest will follow.
    You see, its the Government that’s handing out the money – doesn’t cost us anything.

30. #30
    On December 28th, 2008 at 11:21 am, Fat Jolly Penguin said:

    At first glance I thought Ted in the title was referring to Kennedy. That bit of humor unfortunately avoided, what the hell is a state doing asking for bailouts?

    Oh, wait.

    In the 2007 budget year, Medicaid costs devoured 24.2 percent of the state’s general fund, or $4.3 billion. Four years earlier, the figures were 20.5 percent and $3.7 billion.

    *snip*

    First, he is angling for a $250 billion increase in federal payments for food stamps and Medicaid, the government health program for impoverished Americans and, increasingly, the working poor. Second, he favors a $250 billion national investment in infrastructure projects. Ohio has a list of “shovel-ready” projects, including roads, water and sewer improvements and “green economy” investments.

    Third, in search of a palatable pitch to a Congress and nation numbed by the parade of rescue packages, Strickland is teaming with a handful of other Democratic governors to seek a $250 billion infusion for education. The group includes Jennifer M. Granholm (Mich.), Jon S. Corzine (N.J.), David A. Paterson (N.Y.), Jim Doyle (Wis.) and Deval L. Patrick (Mass.).

    But earlier:

    “We’re not crying wolf. This is real,” Strickland said in an interview in his statehouse office, pointing to charts that project the most serious erosion of state income in 40 years and a two-year budget deficit of $7.3 billion. Revenue shortfalls in the upcoming two-year budget could amount to about 25 percent of the state’s discretionary spending.

    Drunken sailor much, Strickland?

31. #31
    On December 28th, 2008 at 1:02 pm, ArizonaNeanderthal said:

    PKAmmoTroop said:
    Since the announcement of Obama’s anti-NASA initiative pretty much every Obamadrone I know is kicking themselves in the butts.

    If their legs get tired I can help in a pinch-Have Cowboy Boots/Will Travel.

32. #32
    On December 28th, 2008 at 1:58 pm, RabbidSquirrel said:

    Sorry, just checking in on this thread to see if my personal bailout had arrived over here yet…

33. #33
    On December 28th, 2008 at 3:44 pm, Chief RZ said:

    Stealing from the willing to give to the unwilling (to work).

34. #34
    On December 29th, 2008 at 10:32 am, pressto said:

    The link to this article now states:

    The page you are seeking has expired and is no longer available at msnbc.com.

35. #35
    On December 29th, 2008 at 10:54 am, Weary Citizen said:

    On December 28th, 2008 at 9:10 am, 57fender said:
    He’s just getting in line for the easy money:

    #1 – California
    #2 – New York
    #3 – Illinois
    #4 – Michigan
    #5 – Ohio

    Hmmm, I think I am beginning to see a pattern. The top 4 liberal populace states (unsure of Ohio, but I assume very liberla too) need a bailout. And the top 2 are heavy illegal immigrant destination states. How about you stop providing entitlements to every able bodied person (and to all illegals), stop funding every liberal program, and reduce your overall spending? What a concept. That is the way every individual and business must handle tough times. But they would rather the rest of us pay fo rtheir ridiculous unaffordable giveaway programs. Take a long walk off a short pier guys.

36. #36
    On December 29th, 2008 at 11:19 am, RedDog said:

    Once again, governments at all levels think that the people exist to service them. Until they get an “attitude adjustment” from the people, this behavior will continue. Memo to bureaucrats: Get a clue – money really does not grow on trees. Neither does it bubble up from the ground for you to divvy up and spread around to satisfy the needs of the masses. And no, greedy business people are not hoarding it. It actually has to be earned. Got that?

37. #37
    On December 29th, 2008 at 11:23 am, gandolphxx said:

    The irony is that Rahm was the principal facilitator of NAFTA for BJ and Obama lied about getting rid of NAFTA to get the Ohio vote.

    And yes it does appear that the most liberal provinces are first in line – waiting for Mass to jump in.

38. #38
    On December 29th, 2008 at 12:12 pm, davidjamesduprey said:

    You have to love Google. I pulled up a cached copy of the article by searching for the headline: Suffering Ohio begs for federal lifeline.

    It was the first listing on Google. Looks like MSNBC is whitewashing their site, or is blackwashing now?

39. #39
    On December 29th, 2008 at 12:16 pm, davidjamesduprey said:

    I’m from New York and we are in a financial crises with the Governor stating we’ll have something like a $40+ Billion deficit over the next two years.

    Where’s our bailout? Come on Barack, help a brotha’ out!

40. #40
    On December 30th, 2008 at 2:33 am, RabbidSquirrel said:

    Sorry, just checking in again on this thread to see if my personal bailout had arrived over here yet…