“The rockets are fake, but the Qurans are real”

By Michelle Malkin  •  January 2, 2009 01:37 PM

John Hinderaker illustrates “the conflict’s root cause.”

Pictures worth a thousand words.

Jihad? Yes, they can.

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  1. #581572
    On January 2nd, 2009 at 1:45 pm, johnsteele said:

    Yes, we all need to convert to Islam, the beauty of it is obvious to anyone who will pay attention — or else.

  2. #581574
    On January 2nd, 2009 at 1:47 pm, letget said:

    These kids are taught from age three or four in their schools to hate. They know no other way of life. You take a child and teach them how you want them to act, and they act that way. Sound a bit like our school system here is going?
    L

  3. #581578
    On January 2nd, 2009 at 1:51 pm, Jbgood said:

    It’s kinda like being raised in Jermiah Wrights church for 20 or more years.

  4. #581585
    On January 2nd, 2009 at 2:05 pm, DesertLover said:

    Liberals will never understand the depth of the indoctrinated hatred that we are facing because they are incapable of admitting that the USA is not the problem …

    In fact the USA is actually the only country that can answer this threat to civilization and put an end to it forever …

    In 12 months there are going to be 2 major things that will have occurred on BO’s watch …

    1. We will have been attacked again on American soil …

    2. There will be millions of delusional voters suffering massive pangs of voter remorse …

    We can pray that something will happen unexpectedly to prevent those events from happening but the liberals in charge seem to be predisposed to taking us down that previously traveled road …

  5. #581586
    On January 2nd, 2009 at 2:05 pm, DesertLover said:

    Liberals will never understand the depth of the indoctrinated hatred that we are facing because they are incapable of admitting that the USA is not the problem …

    In fact the USA is actually the only country that can answer this threat to civilization and put an end to it forever …

    In 12 months there are going to be 2 major things that will have occurred on BO’s watch …

    1. We will have been attacked again on American soil …

    2. There will be millions of delusional voters suffering massive pangs of voter remorse …

    We can pray that something will happen unexpectedly to prevent those events from happening but the liberals in charge seem to be predisposed to taking us down that previously traveled road …

  6. #581587
    On January 2nd, 2009 at 2:07 pm, MrOlympia said:

    Jbgood…….great post great analogy.

  7. #581590
    On January 2nd, 2009 at 2:08 pm, Cogs said:

    On January 2nd, 2009 at 1:47 pm, letget said:
    These kids are taught from age three or four in their schools to hate…

    Gee, sounds a lot like our liberal government schools.

  8. #581592
    On January 2nd, 2009 at 2:09 pm, L.N. Smithee said:

    It makes me laugh whenever I see the likes of Bill Moyers or Keith Blowhardmann dig up video of some whoozat evangelical preacher and promote him to a nationally-significant influence in the conservative movement while they pooh-pooh authentic jihadists parading through the “Arab streets” and American wannabes who actually plot acts of terrorism.

    Then I remember that a lot of people take them seriously, and I stop laughing.

  9. #581604
    On January 2nd, 2009 at 2:20 pm, Paul Revere said:

    Liberals don’t have to understand the rage. They are lock-step with them in their rage against Israel and the United States.

  10. #581605
    On January 2nd, 2009 at 2:21 pm, garydt said:

    Is there another religion in the world that teaches hate? I believe and many will disagree that the Devil himself thought up the religion of islam to compete with Christianity and to deceive the multitudes. The Devil has given it a little creedence to make this religion believeable. Those who test things can see this is just an evil system bent on killing and destroying.

  11. #581606
    On January 2nd, 2009 at 2:22 pm, ajmalkov said:

    These kids are taught from age three or four in their schools to hate…You take a child and teach them how you want them to act, and they act that way. Sound a bit like our school system here is going?

    This is our school system. We pay for it through the United Nations.

  12. #581607
    On January 2nd, 2009 at 2:23 pm, JustAThought said:

    Um, let me make a couple of suggestions:
    1) That Israel give the citizens of Gaza 24 hours to leave. At the end of the 24 hours, carpet bombing commences.
    2) Any member of Hamas, Hezbolla or other terrorist organization found on Israeli soil is summarily executed and buried with a pork chop tied around their neck, face down and pointed anywhere but Mecca.
    3) Any time a homicide bomber actually detonates a bomb, whatever is found of his remains are buried in a pig skin.
    4) Israel is immediately provided with funding, equipment and sufficient personnel to finish the job.

    Just a suggestion.

  13. #581608
    On January 2nd, 2009 at 2:24 pm, Craig said:

    Someone once said…that the Palestinians will never achieve peace until they value their children more than death.

    They’re not their yet. And I don’t see it happening EVER.

  14. #581609
    On January 2nd, 2009 at 2:24 pm, Craig said:

    PIMF: there not their

  15. #581614
    On January 2nd, 2009 at 2:28 pm, On-my-soap-box said:

    Pretty telling link don’t you think lgm?

  16. #581615
    On January 2nd, 2009 at 2:28 pm, On-my-soap-box said:

    Hey DL!

  17. #581618
    On January 2nd, 2009 at 2:32 pm, Elm Creek Smith said:

    France and Germany need another Roland, and Central Europe needs another Vlad Dracul*, I think. Otherwise, Europe is lost to the jihad.

    We need to be looking for our own Roland here in the US.

    ECS

    *(I don’t mean vampires or the cruelty with which he treated his own people. He was a hero in the wars against the expansion of Islam into Central Europe.)

  18. #581619
    On January 2nd, 2009 at 2:33 pm, chapoutier said:

    We can pray that something will happen unexpectedly to prevent those events from happening but the liberals in charge seem to be predisposed to taking us down that previously traveled road …

    What exactly has Obama done so far that makes you think that? Seriously, that is not a sarcastic question. You can agree or disagree with a certain cabinet pick or make jokes about how they are just Clinton 2.0, but most people would agree that they are a serious bunch. I think most here would appreciate the fact that Gates and Patreus are (rightly) staying in place. Its not like he made Kusinich SoS and Nader head of the SEC.

  19. #581620
    On January 2nd, 2009 at 2:33 pm, Tennessee Dave said:

    Here, a group of Palestinian boys who live in a “refugee camp” in southern Lebanon demonstrate against Israel’s attack on Hamas. They have been raised from birth to view mass murder as a high calling and religious duty

    Maybe we could send some Code Pinko’s over to teach them how wrong it is to hate and preach warfare. They can explain to these young minds that we all must live in harmony and peace.
    /sarc off

  20. #581621
    On January 2nd, 2009 at 2:33 pm, wighttrasch said:

    If I walked down the street with a Quran, wouldn’t I be charged with a hate crime?

  21. #581622
    On January 2nd, 2009 at 2:35 pm, DesertLover said:

    Howdy Soap …

  22. #581626
    On January 2nd, 2009 at 2:37 pm, On-my-soap-box said:

    Children and Jihad

    Search youtube

    No, the rockets are not fake and the children are primed and ready. Several generations now.

  23. #581627
    On January 2nd, 2009 at 2:38 pm, tre said:

    Is any other reason to continue the War on Terror needed?

  24. #581629
    On January 2nd, 2009 at 2:42 pm, Bucklee said:

    Am I the only one that at first seeing the picture with the “rocket” that someone had superimposed Obama’s face into the picture?

  25. #581632
    On January 2nd, 2009 at 2:45 pm, redpeach said:

    I’ve been to a Palestinian refugee camp in the West Bank, where children are born into abject poverty and hopelessness. Forget what’s taught in their “schools,” it’s the refugees that do most of the dirty work. They are pawns of their own people with no real chance of an education or escape; their lives spent immersed in chilling anti-U.S. and anti-Israel, anti-Semitic propoganda. The culture of victimhood there makes our own “victims” look like amateur pretenders. They are taught to believe they are chosen by God and that he unequivocally does NOT value all of his children equally, and to act out through violence is their only answer and only resort. They learn not to fear death, but to embrace it and welcome it as a release from the circumstances in which they live. Listening to a refugee tell us why the U.S. is pure evil and Israel must be destroyed while she held her little boy on her lap was one of the most eye-opening and chilling experiences of my lifetime. I was in college at the time – it was one of things that pushed me right. Peace “talks” will never work. I knew then what I know now, that you cannot “talk” to people and come to some sort of accord or agreement when the core philosophy of their psyches is so diametrically opposite of ours in the West. How do you “talk” with people who don’t have a single shared value, one common core interest, and who don’t value life, theirs or anyone else’s, and who have nothing to live for except to be a continual pawn in some sort of sick game? How do you really live in peace with mothers and fathers who hope that their children will bring glory to their family by becoming suicide bombers?

  26. #581633
    On January 2nd, 2009 at 2:45 pm, right4life said:

    meanwhile in Eurabia…

    Update: The French press reported that the Interior Ministry released a final “verified” count of 1,147 vehicles burned in France over New Year’s Eve. The number is up 30.64% from last year’s total, 878.

    link

    and the word muslim, or islam is never mentioned in the story….just ‘utes’ having fun….

  27. #581638
    On January 2nd, 2009 at 2:56 pm, DesertLover said:

    Hi Chap …

    My concerns are simply based on the premise that BO is really going to do all of the things he said he was going to do during the campaign … such as …

    1. Talk to the Iran and all the other terrorist regimes … he still thinks that is the way to stop terrorism …

    2. Disarm the USA of its own arsenal of advanced weaponry … He stated he would pursue that as one of his major goals …

    3. You made mention of the Clinton retreads … many of same ones that wouldn’t pull the trigger on Bin Laden and would not respond to the numerous attacks by Al Qaeda the last time they were in charge …

    4. He has already shown a propensity to expect everything to be settled at the U.N. (Useless Nincompoops) … he is in total lockstep with that worthless collection of anti-Americanism disguised as a world body of nations …

    5. He wants to stop military weapons development … which shows that he obviously does not understand the concept of military strength as a deterrent …

    As for an attack on our soil … I point to his idiotic milquetoast response to the Russian invasion of Georgia, the attacks in India and the current Israeli situation …

    As I see it they are going to chew him up and spit him out because they all know he isn’t going to come after them …

  28. #581640
    On January 2nd, 2009 at 2:57 pm, John Deaux said:

    How do you really live in peace with mothers and fathers who hope that their children will bring glory to their family by becoming suicide bombers?

    There’s the problem. As long as there’s one left that’s willing to die for Islam, we will have no peace.

  29. #581641
    On January 2nd, 2009 at 2:57 pm, redpeach said:

    As I see it they are going to chew him up and spit him out because they all know he isn’t going to come after them …

    Please please please let’s hope he surprises us. I, for one, am not very optimistic.

  30. #581644
    On January 2nd, 2009 at 3:00 pm, DesertLover said:

    Chap …

    Yes … I am glad that Gates and Petraeus are staying in charge … the question is for how long as the radical left is already screaming for it’s “bought and paid for” pound of flesh … and I don’t think he will be able to deny them the heads they want to see roll …

  31. #581645
    On January 2nd, 2009 at 3:02 pm, DesertLover said:

    redpeach …

    That was my whole point … he has to be something that he has shown no inclination that he can be … praying he surprises us is what we must do …

  32. #581646
    On January 2nd, 2009 at 3:06 pm, On-my-soap-box said:

    On January 2nd, 2009 at 2:56 pm, DesertLover said:
    Hi Chap …

    My concerns are simply based on the premise that BO is really going to do all of the things he said he was going to do during the campaign

    Hell, BHO broke his campaign promises right out the door (contributions?). We are supposed to believe he was not paying attention to his pastor for 22 years? Now, we are supposed to believe he has a backbone? We are supposed to believe he will keep his word?

    I would sooner believe Gorebal Warming was man-caused.

  33. #581648
    On January 2nd, 2009 at 3:09 pm, DesertLover said:

    Soap …

    yep … that’s the way I see it too … I was just responding to Chap’s questions regarding my original post …

  34. #581651
    On January 2nd, 2009 at 3:10 pm, ArizonaNeanderthal said:

    On January 2nd, 2009 at 2:24 pm, Craig said:

    Someone once said…that the Palestinians will never achieve peace until they value their children more than death.

    They’re not their yet. And I don’t see it happening EVER.

    Everyone who has honestly studied Islam understands that as long as these people ARE mohammedans they will not change; this NOT extreme islam-this IS islam, this is what the Koran, Quran, whatever, teaches.
    Perhaps most mohammedans do not engage in jihad–I see no great evidence they oppose such. After these huge jihadist marches in Britain, France and Belgum and such where is the “moderate, peace loving overwhelming” mohammedans? Did we miss it?

    The counter culture divide in the west makes it impossible for us to deal with the mess as we should. But count on both the Left and the mohammedan to overplay their hand. Europe? Except for Germany I think they are toast. But keep your powder dry and wait. Our turn will come.
    In the meantime read “Because They Hate” by Brigitte Gabriel. She knows these people better than most in the west.

  35. #581652
    On January 2nd, 2009 at 3:16 pm, Socky said:

    Palestinian protesters in Fort Lauderdale: “You need a big oven, that’s what you need.

    And Texx Smith says we’re the Nazis?

  36. #581653
    On January 2nd, 2009 at 3:17 pm, On-my-soap-box said:

    DL,

    Yep, I knew that. I was coming along side of you Brother – shoulder to shoulder!

  37. #581654
    On January 2nd, 2009 at 3:17 pm, ArizonaNeanderthal said:

    I would sooner believe Gorebal Warming was man-caused.

    Take two aspirin, drink plenty of fluids and try to keep warm. This will pass.
    It is ALL part of the same Counter Cultural, anti-west, anti-everything LeftWing dingbats.

    While WE were offended by JerryBoy’s God D–n America screed the Leftist fully agreed with the man. Of course Leftist are generally their own gods. Are they in for a surprise.

  38. #581656
    On January 2nd, 2009 at 3:20 pm, DesertLover said:

    Soap …

    I knew that … :lol:

  39. #581657
    On January 2nd, 2009 at 3:20 pm, DesertLover said:

    Soap …

    I knew that … :lol:

  40. #581659
    On January 2nd, 2009 at 3:23 pm, walterc said:

    Craig said:

    Someone once said…that the Palestinians will never achieve peace until they value their children more than death.

    I believe it was Golda Meir and what she actually said was “until they love their children more than they hate us (meaning Israel and the Jews, or is it Juice?) there will be no peace.”

    And ditto ArizonNeanderthal on reading Brigette Gabriel’s book.

  41. #581666
    On January 2nd, 2009 at 3:42 pm, DagneyT said:

    A truly “proportional response” would be to finally rid Palestine of Hamas. Peaceful Palestinians, especially the Christian Arabs, are the true victims of these Hamas mufsidun fighting their holy war hirabah!

  42. #581667
    On January 2nd, 2009 at 3:42 pm, madchef said:

    On January 2nd, 2009 at 2:45 pm, redpeach said:

    Excellent Post,
    There is no way to talk to people who for generations have been so instilled in hatred for Israel and the west. After a time it becomes a self perpetuating cycle of hate.

  43. #581668
    On January 2nd, 2009 at 3:43 pm, right_on said:

    I feel no pity nor compassion for any ethnic or “religious” group that portrays it’s women, and children as merchants of mass homicide (read: Islamic martyrdom).

    Using the Palestinian/Islamic definition of combatant (Jewish civilians; old men, women, children, and infants, and their supporters,) it makes perfect sense for the IDF to target Hamas anywhere. In the Palestinian/Islamist world, civilian populations do not exist in Zion, only legitimate targets for Jihad.

    I think that what is good for the goose, is good for the gander.

    I have absolutely no sympathy for the Palestinian loss of life. They actually have the chutzpah to advertise the fact that their children, at the earliest ages, are trained to use themselves as booby-traps to kill Jews/dhimmis/apostates, as are their women.

    I guess I don’t understand how they can do this on one hand, and then on the other, complain that their “innocent” women and children are being killed by the IDF. According to their own propaganda, they are combatants-in-waiting. Good riddance!

  44. #581671
    On January 2nd, 2009 at 3:47 pm, DagneyT said:

    On January 2nd, 2009 at 2:21 pm, garydt said:

    Is there another religion in the world that teaches hate? I believe and many will disagree that the Devil himself thought up the religion of islam to compete with Christianity and to deceive the multitudes.

    Gary, I have had this argument with my priest and other theologians, that Mohammed was the “anti-Christ” of Biblical prophesy. I’ve yet to get a definitive rebuttal to my theory.

  45. #581672
    On January 2nd, 2009 at 3:50 pm, Old Scout said:

    Please watch out for several false propaganda points.

    This week I heard Bill O’Reilly refer to “a conflict and hatred that is thousands of years old”
    Bill was either reading a talking point that Fox handed him, or was referring to the Christian-Muslim wars going back to the crusades.

    Hundreds of thousands of Jews lived rather peacefully in the middle east with their Arab and Iranian neighbors for a very, very long time. The Ottoman empire, which ruled much of the region for centuries until World War I, had policies of tolerance.

    The trouble as we know is only started in 1948 with the creation of Israel. It is 60 years old, not thousands.

    Another fact is that 20% of Israel’s residents are Palestinian – that’s right – Palestinian. They were residents of the Palestine Mandate who peacefully remained in the country after 1948.

    Members of the Democratic party also seem to have forgotten that the convicted assassin of Robert Kennedy, Sirhan Sirhan, was a Palestinian.

    I don’t know why the press seems to have been ordered to be a little lighter on Israel this time, or why YouTube felt it necessary to ban video submitted by the Israel Defense Forces.

  46. #581673
    On January 2nd, 2009 at 3:53 pm, ITookTheRedPill said:

    In the Powerline link Michelle provided, the fourth picture is from Jakarta, Indonesia.

    Let us remember that:

    – Indonesia is the world’s most populous Muslim country,

    – “Barry Soetoro” (a.k.a Barack Hussein Obama) was registered as an Indonesian citizen, religion Islam, and studied the Koran in school there.

    – The book “The Audacity of Hope: Thoughts on Reclaiming The American Dream” has a straightforward translation as “Keberanian Harapan: Pemikiran Untuk Meraih Kembali Impian America”, but was instead given a completely new title when published in Indonesia:

    “Menerjang Harapan: Dari Jakarta Menuju Gedung Putih”

    This is not really a translation at all, but rather a completely different title than the original book, which translates to:

    Assault Hope: From Jakarta to the White House

    An American expatriate living in Indonesia says:

    The words “menerjang” (assault or attack) and “harapan” (hope or expectation) make sense when used separately, but used together, the term “menerjang harapan” makes no sense in Indonesian. But while the term makes no sense, it does however present a mental picture to the native Indonesian speaker, the imagery of a “hopeful assault” a “struggle for victory” or to put it more bluntly, a “jihad”, or as the Indonesians see it, Obama’s “jihad” for the Whitehouse. For the native Indonesian speaker, this figurative language creates a mental image whereas the translation of the book’s title can actually come to mean “Jihad: From Jakarta To The Whitehouse“.

  47. #581676
    On January 2nd, 2009 at 4:06 pm, DagneyT said:

    On January 2nd, 2009 at 3:53 pm, ITookTheRedPill said:

    In the Powerline link Michelle provided, the fourth picture is from Jakarta, Indonesia.

    RedPill, we’ve only just scratched the surface of who BO really is; besides a stench moving into the WH. I’m curious how much of his true background will emerge after he’s sworn in? If there are any real journalists left in America, it could become more apparent what many of us suspect, i.e., that a Manchurian Candidate has been elected to POTUS.

  48. #581678
    On January 2nd, 2009 at 4:10 pm, FamilyMan said:

    They have been raised from birth to view mass murder as a high calling and religious duty:

    That’s not the memo I grew up with.

  49. #581679
    On January 2nd, 2009 at 4:11 pm, fred5676 said:

    The fourth photo at Powerline, depicting Jews as monkeys (with Orthodox hats?) says it all.

    If Christians paraded with signs depicting Muslims as pigs (with turbans??) it would be a hate crime (if they survived the mobs to stand trial).

  50. #581682
    On January 2nd, 2009 at 4:14 pm, DagneyT said:

    FamilyMan, did you not look at those pics at Powerline? That is a screaming memo we need to understand!!!

  51. #581683
    On January 2nd, 2009 at 4:14 pm, ITookTheRedPill said:

    Old Scout,

    Many Jews and Christians believe that the hatred displayed by many Muslims towards Jews and Christians traces its roots to when Sarah gave birth to Isaac (Abraham’s legitimate son and heir) and told Abraham to cast out Hagar the Egyptian (Sarah’s maidservant) and the illegitimate son, Ishmael, whom Hagar bore to Abraham.

    See Genesis 16 & 21, especially 21:1-13

    The descendants of Ishmael became the nation of Islam,
    and the descendants of Isaac became the nation of Israel.

    A “family feud” has been raging for thousands of years.

    Many of the descendants of the illegitimate son hate and want to kill
    the descendants of the legitimate son.

  52. #581685
    On January 2nd, 2009 at 4:19 pm, prendad said:

    What would happen if Islam finally conquered the world and there were no more infidels to murder? What would there be to quench the never-ending Islamic thirst to murder, kill, maim, and torture? Would there be some type of contests invented by the Mullahs that would allow the winning Islamics to blow the losing Islamics up? Would the winners be allowed to launch rockets against the towns of the losers or to strap bombs onto Islamic children and send them to blow the losing Islamics up? What atrocities would be legitimized in the name of Allah in order to satisfy the vanity, hypocracy, and power-hungry madness of the insane religious leaders who murder in the name of Allah?

  53. #581687
    On January 2nd, 2009 at 4:23 pm, redpeach said:

    It is so infuriating that so many Americans refuse to open their eyes to the real dangers here. I spent enough time with Palestinian cab drivers, shopkeepers, money changers, professors, etc while I was in the Middle East to be left completely unsurprised on 9-11 (nor was I surprised by the far left’s self blame after-the-fact). The irony is that we were welcomed as Americans into the refugee camp because they wanted us to leave feeling profoundly sorry for them and feeling very angry at their Israeli “oppressors”. You could not help but feel compassion for them – the children just broke your heart – but on the second count I couldn’t believe how many of the students fell for it hook, line and sinker. They could not get past the horror of the camp to see it in context, or understand the storyline leading up to these people’s lives in no way could excuse the mass murder of innocent civilians. And I found it hilarious that those who most identified with their cause were those who fancied themselves as the most open-minded and tolerant of the group (pro-choice, gay rights, feminists, non-religious…you get the picture). After we left one of the Professors asked something like, “If the US or Europe were to find itself someday in the stranglehold of radical Islam, what rights would be jeopardized?” And someone aptly answered, “Abortion, gay rights, freedom of religion, freedom of speech, women’s rights…” and a few of the liberal students in the back of the bus started laughing going, “That will NEVER happen!!!!” I can’t remember his exact question but I will never forget the response.

  54. #581689
    On January 2nd, 2009 at 4:30 pm, jasetaro said:

    If you think that’s bad take a look at this.

    The response is almost word for word what I expected… It’s all Israel’s fault… The Israeli’s are Nazis… etc. etc.

    I expect kind of crap that from the Arab world but I still can’t get my head around how anyone in this country can think that way.

  55. #581690
    On January 2nd, 2009 at 4:36 pm, Polar said:

    “The depth of the evil on display here is difficult to comprehend” but the cause of the evil is displayed quite prominently.

  56. #581692
    On January 2nd, 2009 at 4:38 pm, granite said:

    On January 2nd, 2009 at 3:50 pm, Old Scout said:

    Please watch out for several false propaganda points.

    This week I heard Bill O’Reilly refer to “a conflict and hatred that is thousands of years old”
    Bill was either reading a talking point that Fox handed him, or was referring to the Christian-Muslim wars going back to the crusades.

    Hundreds of thousands of Jews lived rather peacefully in the middle east with their Arab and Iranian neighbors for a very, very long time. The Ottoman empire, which ruled much of the region for centuries until World War I, had policies of tolerance.

    The trouble as we know is only started in 1948 with the creation of Israel. It is 60 years old, not thousands.

    The “tolerance” you refer to existed only as long as the Muslims felt like letting it exist; and even then, only as long as the non-Muslims meekly; humbly; and, it seems, almost gratefully accepted and acknowledged their inferior status.

    And, at a whim, the “tolerance” could instantly disappear.

    Please do not try to give the impression that life under the Muslims was good for Christians and Jews; it wasn’t…not by a long shot.

    So, please do not nullify the meaning of the word tolerance.

    Regarding Bill O’Reilly – even though we stopped watching him a few weeks ago, and find we feel we have not missed anything – he is not wrong, except for a slight exaggeration of the amount of time.
    The Muslims have been hating and causing conflict for only ~1400 years.

  57. #581698
    On January 2nd, 2009 at 5:09 pm, frostrt said:

    On January 2nd, 2009 at 2:33 pm, chapoutier said:

    Its not like he made Kusinich SoS and Nader head of the SEC.
    ————————————–

    Now if THAT had happened, I would currently be residing in Canada.

    As it is, I think you’re right; give them the benefit of the doubt before we assume the worst.

  58. #581702
    On January 2nd, 2009 at 5:14 pm, JustAThought said:

    On January 2nd, 2009 at 4:19 pm, prendad said:
    What would happen if Islam finally conquered the world and there were no more infidels to murder? What would there be to quench the never-ending Islamic thirst to murder, kill, maim, and torture? Would there be some type of contests invented by the Mullahs that would allow the winning Islamics to blow the losing Islamics up? Would the winners be allowed to launch rockets against the towns of the losers or to strap bombs onto Islamic children and send them to blow the losing Islamics up? What atrocities would be legitimized in the name of Allah in order to satisfy the vanity, hypocracy, and power-hungry madness of the insane religious leaders who murder in the name of Allah?

    They’ll have folks like me and many others found here on MM.com who REFUSE to ever give up or give in to these murderers. They might get me eventually, but I won’t go easy. Translate as appropriate.

  59. #581704
    On January 2nd, 2009 at 5:20 pm, frostrt said:

    Redpeach:

    What gets me, being a woman myself, is how American/Western “feminists” can be so quiet about Jihadists.

    Not a word from them about women being forbidden to go to school or have a job, being required to wear a burqa, being forbidden to leave their own home without their husband/a male relative as a cheperone . . . the list goes on.

  60. #581706
    On January 2nd, 2009 at 5:22 pm, CW4_KGP said:

    Was just watching Fox News, and saw Annie Lennox (of the Eurythmics) laying her sympathies with the terrorists in Gaza.

    Boo Freakin’ Hoo Annie. Go pull a Rachel Corrie. Chances are those evil joooooooooooos BOUGHT your records because they had money. The “palestinians” don’t have money. They “steal” your music.

    Yeah, it’s a sterotype, yeah its a generality, but I think that anyone who supports freedom and peace would ostracize and shun anyone who supports terrorists in any way, shape, form, or manner. In a relationship, people who support and allow people to continue in bad behavior are “enablers.”

    Maybe all terrorist enablers need to be bee-yatch slapped upside the head and see if anything rattles.

    GO TEAM ISRAEL! Protect yourselves by any and all means. No one else will if you won’t.

  61. #581708
    On January 2nd, 2009 at 5:26 pm, right4life said:

    On January 2nd, 2009 at 3:47 pm, DagneyT said:

    Gary, I have had this argument with my priest and other theologians, that Mohammed was the “anti-Christ” of Biblical prophesy. I’ve yet to get a definitive rebuttal to my theory.

    Mohammed is not the anti-christ…he was another wanna-be. the rebuttal is easy, Jesus is not here. in Revelation Jesus returns and casts the anti-christ, and the false prophet into hell. mohammed didn’t have a mark, and he did not control the economy as the Beast will…

    although I think the anti-christ will be a muslim….he beheads those who oppose him…wonder where he gets that idea…yeah..

  62. #581710
    On January 2nd, 2009 at 5:27 pm, WarEagle82 said:

    Of course leftards don’t object to these kids being taught to hate Jews. After all, the teachers are members of their respective national education associations so anything they teach must be okay.

  63. #581712
    On January 2nd, 2009 at 5:28 pm, right4life said:

    On January 2nd, 2009 at 4:19 pm, prendad said:
    What would happen if Islam finally conquered the world and there were no more infidels to murder? What would there be to quench the never-ending Islamic thirst to murder, kill, maim, and torture?

    its called the TRIBULATION….and it will happen…and they won’t have enough time in 7 years to murder everyone….they’ll be busy with all sorts of things….. :shock:

  64. #581713
    On January 2nd, 2009 at 5:30 pm, right4life said:

    Hundreds of thousands of Jews lived rather peacefully in the middle east with their Arab and Iranian neighbors for a very, very long time. The Ottoman empire, which ruled much of the region for centuries until World War I, had policies of tolerance.

    yeah tell that to the millions of armenians they slaughtered…islam has a long history of butchering those opposed to them…look at the sudan today….

  65. #581714
    On January 2nd, 2009 at 5:32 pm, right4life said:

    the whole idea of a muslim ‘golden age’ is pure propoganda…they didn’t invent algebra, they stole it from the Hindus…whom they have been at war with, as with christians since islam was founded. the only time they had an advanced society was when they stole it from others…and it quickly ended because islam is hellishly repressive…

  66. #581717
    On January 2nd, 2009 at 5:37 pm, frostrt said:

    On January 2nd, 2009 at 5:22 pm, CW4_KGP said:
    Was just watching Fox News, and saw Annie Lennox (of the Eurythmics) laying her sympathies with the terrorists in Gaza.

    ————————————-

    Oh, Annie, not you too (sigh . . . )

  67. #581718
    On January 2nd, 2009 at 5:40 pm, CWinNY said:

    DesertLover said:

    Hi Chap …

    My concerns are simply based on the premise that BO is really going to do all of the things he said he was going to do during the campaign … such as …

    1. Talk to the Iran and all the other terrorist regimes … he still thinks that is the way to stop terrorism …

    2. Disarm the USA of its own arsenal of advanced weaponry … He stated he would pursue that as one of his major goals …

    3. You made mention of the Clinton retreads … many of same ones that wouldn’t pull the trigger on Bin Laden and would not respond to the numerous attacks by Al Qaeda the last time they were in charge …

    4. He has already shown a propensity to expect everything to be settled at the U.N. (Useless Nincompoops) … he is in total lockstep with that worthless collection of anti-Americanism disguised as a world body of nations …

    5. He wants to stop military weapons development … which shows that he obviously does not understand the concept of military strength as a deterrent …

    DesertLover, concerning your point number five: I would recommend the book “Science Goes To War” by Ernest Volkman. Mr. Volkman describes how many empires,kingdoms, and nations rose to power through weapons development, and then were destroyed when they failed to adapt to changing circumstances (other nations or empires developed counter tactics or defenses that stymied their previously successful systems). In his book he describes how a major reason for the fall of Rome was the Romans failing to adapt to the use of lances held by horsemen, which penetrated their turtle defense (clustered shields) – which resulted in an horrific defeat and slaughter of the main Roman army which left Rome defenseless.

    This, and Obama’s call for massive government spending to lift the US out of recession (similar to the failed New Deal blueprint), shows an alarming lack of historical knowledge. This is why I am very much concerned for the damage that could be wreaked by an Obama administration coupled with Democrat control of both houses.

  68. #581719
    On January 2nd, 2009 at 5:41 pm, UrbanSpaceman said:

    To # 45, 51, and 56: while the fighting between the Jews and Muslims can be traced to what ITookTheRedPill said in #51, keep in mind that the fighting in Mid-East can be traced back to when God allowed Israel to move into the promised land. When Israel took over the promised land, they were told to eliminate everyone that was living there–Israel did not kill everyone, thus creating temptations to take them away from God, and creating a hostile environment. So one is correct when they say the fighting in the Mid-East is thousands of years old.

  69. #581725
    On January 2nd, 2009 at 6:00 pm, DesertLover said:

    CWinNY …

    A more recent example of that would be the fact that we developed the atomic bomb and used it to end the war in the Pacific in WWII in August 1945… and when the Germans surrendered in May 1945 they were using what were called “buzz bombs” which were the first military rockets … both were examples of adapting to different conditions in the 2 hemispheres … ground troops were in Europe on D-Day and later into Italy and a more conventional war was fought while the islands of Japan made a single ground invasion more difficult (Okinawa, Guadalcanal, Iwo Jima, Saipan, the Philipines, Midway and others) …

  70. #581727
    On January 2nd, 2009 at 6:08 pm, 24Klady said:

    If/when the muslims take over the world and force conversation – the world will plunge back into 7th century darkness, the infrastructures will crumble, and our overpopulated planet will suffer mass starvation.

    right4life is right.
    Whatever levels of comfort they may have attained has always been at the expense of their current hosts(those invaded). I’ve seen little evidence they’ve ever been able to even feed themselves without the help of slaves.

  71. #581728
    On January 2nd, 2009 at 6:10 pm, simcoe said:

    Who among us that is not a Moslem thinks that they can thwart the will of our Creator? These Hatfields and McCoys have been feuding for several thousand years by the decree of God. It’s a winning bet that none of the haters knows why. Nor can anyone other than our Messiah Jesus put an end to it.

    These Satan driven haters will never take over the world, but they don’t have too to know what would happen if they did. The world can already read various reports about they feed those who come to lift them out of poverty, on each other and even their own families when they can’t find anyone else.

    What really ticks them off and leaves them hopeless is that mankind’s Messiah is a Jew.

  72. #581731
    On January 2nd, 2009 at 6:22 pm, PKAmmoTroop said:

    On January 2nd, 2009 at 6:10 pm, simcoe said:

    Who among us that is not a Moslem thinks that they can thwart the will of our Creator? These Hatfields and McCoys have been feuding for several thousand years by the decree of God. It’s a winning bet that none of the haters knows why. Nor can anyone other than our Messiah Jesus put an end to it.

    So who’s to say that teaching Hamas the error of their ways is a Bad Thing? Collectively these morons have the intellectual and emotional stability of a 3 year old.

    “Withhold not correction from a child: for if thou strike him with the rod, he shall not die. Thou shalt beat him with the rod, and deliver his soul from hell.” (Proverbs 23:13-14)

  73. #581736
    On January 2nd, 2009 at 6:43 pm, garydt said:

    Thanks Dagney for your comments. I truely believe the devil has deceived many by his lies and he is after all the father of lies. Just pray for those who are decieved can see the true light before its too late. The fruit of this islam religion is obviously not from God but the evil one himself. Those who practice Islam who are “moderates” are either agreeing with the radicals or are too afraid to speak out.

  74. #581737
    On January 2nd, 2009 at 6:48 pm, right_on said:

    …the Clinton retreads … many of same ones that wouldn’t pull the trigger on Bin Laden and would not respond to the numerous attacks by Al Qaeda the last time they were in charge.

    The Paleo-libs…A.K.A.
    socialist,
    show me the money,”
    feel-good,
    tolerance and laws for thee not we,
    free speech for we, not thee,
    everything conservative is evil,
    the tried, failed, and not true,
    We are the World
    American (maybe) Democrat Party.

  75. #581738
    On January 2nd, 2009 at 6:58 pm, 24Klady said:

    sincoe – the Hatfield and McCoys statement is too simplistic – the Jews know exactly who their enemy is and why. Christians that have bothered to open history books know why. Muslims in their misguided beliefs are now touting that Jesus was Palestinian. The only way muslims can justify their religion is to erase whatever Jewish/Christian history is there because it rebukes their distortion of history, allowing them to lay claim to both religions and territory.

  76. #581741
    On January 2nd, 2009 at 7:07 pm, DesertLover said:

    24Klady said:

    The only way muslims can justify their religion is to erase whatever Jewish/Christian history is there because it rebukes their distortion of history

    The only way muslims Liberal Democrats can justify their religion position is to erase whatever Jewish/Christian American history is there because it rebukes their distortion of history everything else

  77. #581742
    On January 2nd, 2009 at 7:14 pm, 24Klady said:

    DesertLover #75
    Bingo! I like yours better. :)

  78. #581748
    On January 2nd, 2009 at 7:28 pm, ITookTheRedPill said:

    Ed Hale on Plains Radio Network has the Stanley Ann Dunham – Barack Hussein Obama Sr. divorce papers (not to be confused with the previously released Stanley Ann Dunham – Lolo Soetoro divorce papers) and guess what?

    Ed says it proves Barack Hussein Obama II was indeed born in KENYA!

  79. #581751
    On January 2nd, 2009 at 7:47 pm, 24Klady said:

    RedPill – this only helps if it’s true, and they can produce the copies/originals, whatever. If they really had them they are sitting on millions…if not, it’s worthless, and only discredits whatever prior investigations have shown.

  80. #581752
    On January 2nd, 2009 at 7:48 pm, Leatherneck said:

    Islam is nothing more than moon god worship. They still have the moon on top of their Mosques, and, I bet, weapons and hate speech inside.

    Go Israel!

  81. #581753
    On January 2nd, 2009 at 7:50 pm, ITookTheRedPill said:

    24Klady,

    Here is page 1.

    Ed says they will release more at 8pm CST (9 EST).

  82. #581768
    On January 2nd, 2009 at 8:57 pm, right4life said:

    On January 2nd, 2009 at 7:50 pm, ITookTheRedPill said:

    I hate to tell you, but this is meaningless….even if you could prove that obama is the manchurian candidate, from outer space, it would mean nothing.

    the Lord places on the throne whom He wills…for good or evil…our blessing, or destruction.

  83. #581770
    On January 2nd, 2009 at 9:15 pm, Flyoverman said:

    “Hokey religons and ancient myths are no substitute for a good blaster, kid.”

    Han Solo

  84. #581782
    On January 2nd, 2009 at 9:46 pm, right4life said:

    On January 2nd, 2009 at 9:15 pm, Flyoverman said:
    “Hokey religons and ancient myths are no substitute for a good blaster, kid.”

    I find your lack of faith disturbing…

    Darth Vader

  85. #581795
    On January 2nd, 2009 at 10:14 pm, allrsn said:

    This should help us to understand the dangers of public propaganda and the indoctornation of children here in the USA. IT WORKS.

    Yes the liberals sure as hell do understand how well it works.

  86. #581804
    On January 2nd, 2009 at 10:36 pm, ArizonaNeanderthal said:

    That there was some kind of Golden Age for the Jews under their mohammedan overlords is largely a myth in it’s self. After Mohamed himself killed the adult male Jews of Medina and sold the women and children into slavery he then turned toward the Jews of the Date Groves and enslaved them. There was from time to time an enlightened mohammedan leader who allowed the subject peoples to thrive. They would do well in Spain from time to time always to be brought down by mob riots. In 1368, Toledo, Spain a Jew was appointed Governor and the mobs killed 8,000 Jews and enslaved the rest.

    But then everybody else, east and west, seems to go on Jew killing sprees. The Eastern Church seems to have been particularly virulent but the Western Church bloodied their hands plenty of times. King Richard the Lionhearted borrowed money from Jewish merchants and set off a slaughter of Jews in England and I think the first use of the term Holocaust.
    Never changes. Now British Schools are dropping the study of the 20th Century Holocaust and the Crusades to avoid offending the mohammedans.
    Schools drop Holocaust lessons to avoid offence(English paper-kant spel goot)
    Leftish Jews of the West best be careful-Israel may be the only place they can go. The growth of antisemitism in this country and Europe is sickening.

  87. #581845
    On January 3rd, 2009 at 1:39 am, blacktygrrrr said:

    I am a proud Jewish republican and son of a Holocaust survivor, and liberal Jews are the best thing that has ever happened to our enemies.

    Palestinians need a blue and white enema in the form of rockets shoved right up their (redacted).

    Enough tea parties and photo ops.

    I have been covering Gaza for the last few days, and can say with certainty that the only solution is overwhelming brute force.

    There is no such thing as a Palestinian. They are a fictional invented people. They are the equivalent of unicorns, the Easter Bunny, and Snuffalupagus.

    Outside of the Jayson Blair Times and the Los Angeles Palestinian Times, most civilized human beings understand right vs wrong.

    Respectfully,

    eric aka the Tygrrrr Express
    http://www.tygrrrrexpress.com

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