A real clown takes a Senate seat
It’s all but official: A professional Democrat clown will join all the amateur ones already in the Senate.
Al Franken is going to Washington:
Democrat Al Franken will be declared the winner of the tight U.S. Senate contest in Minnesota, emerging from a ballot recount with a slim margin over Republican Norm Coleman, state officials said on Sunday.
But Coleman, the incumbent, has asked Minnesota’s supreme court to require that a few hundred additional absentee ballots be included in the recount — and he could then ask the court to investigate the contest all over again.
“At the moment, Franken has a 225-vote lead,” after the weekend counting of what were deemed the last uncounted absentee ballots, said Minnesota Secretary of State Mark Ritchie, a Democrat who oversaw the process.
Ritchie said unless the supreme court acts on Coleman’s request and orders more ballots to be counted, he will reconvene the state’s Canvassing Board on Monday to certify Franken as the winner of the November 4 contest.
Coleman’s campaign intends to do just that, but Minnesotan Ed Morrissey at Hot Air notes:
His best bet may be the inconsistencies in challenge resolutions and the lack of a statewide, uniform standard in addressing the absentee ballots. Even that may not help much at this point, though. According to Coleman’s team, up to 1,000 absentee ballots should have been included instead of excluded, but gaining 225 votes out of 1,000 ballots will be a tall order — although not impossible, as Franken gained 200 out of the 935 absentee ballots they did count. Ballot challenge inconsistencies will have less of a chance, as those are inherently subjective and the court will give the Canvassing Board the widest possible latitude.
In the end, a dead heat winds up getting decided by the incompetence of individual voters who under any other circumstances would not matter at all. That’s what we had here.
May Minnesotans get what they deserve.
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WSJ spotlights the funny business in Minnesota:
Minnesotans like to think that their state isn’t like New Jersey or Louisiana, and typically it isn’t. But we can’t recall a similar recount involving optical scanning machines that has changed so many votes, and in which nearly every crucial decision worked to the advantage of the same candidate. The Coleman campaign clearly misjudged the politics here, and the apparent willingness of a partisan like Mr. Ritchie to help his preferred candidate, Mr. Franken. If the Canvassing Board certifies Mr. Franken as the winner based on the current count, it will be anointing a tainted and undeserving Senator.
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What I find interesting is that the MN Secretary of State said he wouldn’t certify the election while court cases were still pending. How can Reid seat Franken before certification and at the same time not seat Burris with the excuse that he is not certified?
John Lott had an article with multiple images of the “unclear” ballots that were being awarded to Franken. One had Coleman’s bubble entirely filled in and Franken’s bubble with an X thru it. The canvassers awarded it to Franken!
Ann Coulter had a column a few weeks ago about the blatant shenanigans going on in MN and in prior elections where Dems openly fabricated ballots and kept recounting until they won while the Stupid Party sat their like schmucks letting them get away with it.
It’ll be hysterical with Franken and possibly Princess Caroline Kennedy-(No Last Name Anymore) sitting in the Senate to watch them bloviate about how it’s the “World Most Deliberative Body.” HA!
They are Leftists! They can do anything they want. Logic and reason don’t enter into it.
I just heard on the radio that the MN Supreme Court will NOT honor Coleman’s latest request. We are screwed. Minnesota has sold out. I was born and raised here, and also my children. I have always been so proud to say I am a Minnesotan. Even after Jesse was Governor (I voted for him, by the way. He had a lot of libertarian in him and his opponents were Coleman and Skip Humphrey!) I felt proud to be here. But I am becoming very disillusioned with many things here. I no longer can walk down the street or go into a retail store without seeing MANY women in burkas. ALL our taxi drivers are muslims. The beautiful suburb I grew up in is now crime infested. I used to go out and play way after dark and no one ever worried about me. We never locked our doors, even at night. I know that Minnesota isn’t the only state suffering from the moonbat mentality, but it really sickens me to see it happen here. Where can we go??
Well said. These are frustrating times. We can’t count on a governor to appointment a US Senator without invoking deviousness. We can’t count on an election to elect a US Senator free and clear. The Senate Majority Leader poking his nose where it doesn’t belong, trying to affect the outcome. Just shows how desperate the liberals have become.
You’re right. But apparently a very thin plurality did.
Everyone can move to VA. I can’t promise you a conservative bastion when you get here, but it might help counter the invasion from the third world to the south and from the leftist Yankees to the north.
Otherwise, I’m thinking about TN or TX. Gotta find a place to make a stand.
This is a sham! Ritchie was funded by George Soros as part of his “Secretary of State Project”. This is from their website:
Dems’ firewall: Secretary of state offices
By: Avi Zenilman
November 2, 2008 08:31 PM EST
In anticipation of a photo-finish presidential election, Democrats have built an administrative firewall designed to protect their electoral interests in five of the most important battleground states.
The bulwark consists of control of secretary of state offices in five key states – Iowa, Minnesota, Nevada, New Mexico and Ohio – where the difference between victory and defeat in the 2004 presidential election was no more than 120,000 votes in any one of them.
With a Democrat now in charge of the offices, which oversee and administer their state’s elections, the party is better positioned than in the previous elections to advance traditional Democratic interests -such as increasing voter registration and boosting turnout – rather than Republican priorities such as stamping out voter fraud.
A body can survive one cut, or even a hundred cuts. But not a thousand cuts. Over the past 50 years the USA has endured small cut after small cut in the form of the advancement of the liberal agenda. These advancements are NEVER reversed, so the cuts never heal. How may more cuts can we survive?
The damage they have done, especially Johnson with his great society and its’ destruction of the black family,has not yet fully manifested itself. The fundamental changes in personal responsibility and self reliance have planted the seeds for the downfall of our once great country.
No- we will not survive Obama, Pelosi, Frank, Franken, Gore, et al. We are finished as a great nation.
Even you don’t really believe that, do you? The magically discovered mis-dated ballots, every one for Franken, all of that funny business.
I realize for Democrats, the Communist Party in all but name, where the only gods are Mother Gaia and winning, the ends justfiy the means, but don’t you guys have any sense of shame or guilt?
b-cat
Ummm isn’t Terry McAuliffe going to run for Governor?……I was born in Va… and it scares me here in MN…… as much as frankenfreak.
Minnesota has become a strange place.
Sez you. I guess the majority of Americans hate the troops, then.
Happyscrapper:
I feel for you and the other “serious” Minnesotans who didn’t vote for this clown. I think a lot of Americans aren’t invested in this country anymore- only the goodies they can get from the Dems. There are many millions of other Americans who don’t bother to vote or think there is no integrity in our elections process anymore.
I was born in New York state. I’m an upstater through and through. Yet, many downstaters (from NYC and its buroughs) run the show. A lot of the money goes to NYC schools and the downstate infrastructure. The upstate has been suffering for years, while the clowns in Albany and NYC laugh and collect more power (like Caroline Kennedy).
Our last Republican governor, George Pataki, was yet another RINO, Republican-lite GOPer. He didn’t really do much for the state. He was ineffective in cleanig up the state school system. As a former NY teacher, I can attest to how bad things were in the school system I taught before I left.
I don’t mean to be a downer, but I’ve had it with the East Coast. I’m tired of the liberal downstaters spreading their garbage in upstate and nothing improving because of it. Downstaters think of places like the Fingerlakes as “quaint” places for their vacation homes, not places where hard-working people live and work. There’s nothing for me in either New York or the East Coast.
My husband and I have good friends in Taxachussetts who are actively involved in Republican poltiics. In my mind, that’s a stacked deck, just as it is in New York. It’s hard to make any kind of positive reform or change when many people are content with the imperfect solutions that Dems offer. I snicker every time I think that states like NY or Massachussetts can get better if Republicans or Conservatives held leadership positions.
Nothing will ever change until the people want them to. Until they’re so sick of “freebies” that don’t make anything better like their precious public schools that make our kids dumber than when they first entered elementary school. When they’re so sick of struggling to pay their property taxes or their state income taxes for a state government that doesn’t seem to work and doesn’t work for them.
That’s what it comes down to.
Of course, such sentiment also goes for the other 99 people representing their
political partyState.What would you even know about it, eagle? What is your involvement in the military? The military and its families have known for a long time that Americans don’t give a crap about the military. You see it in the treatment of those who come home and you see it in the struggles of military spouses who can’t find quality employment (especially those with bachelors and graduate degrees) even before the sub-prime bust.
Again, what would you know about it? Just because Al Franken does a USO tour for some feel-good PR matters not.
You did hit the nail on the head for once. A majority of Americans DO hate the troops through their continued ignorance and indifference toward what our men and women in uniform are doing both in Iraq and Afghanistan. And that majority includes Obummer.
You know nothing just like the other ignorant masses who are too weak and spineless and sell our military short.
only wackos like you do.
if Franken had his way, we would have withdrawn all the troops in iraq, and those that died there would have died in vain.
he’s trash.
So, the proof that Stuart Smalley “supports” the troops is he went over and subjected them to his so-called comedy? I think I’d rather be waterboarded, at least it’s over in two minutes.
Where did you read about that, because I have heaerd nothing of the sort. There are absentee ballots which were arguably incorrectly rejected because they were not dated or the date on the ballot did not match the date on the envelope. Many of these were excluded, even though there is no statutory basis for doing so under MN law. Is that what you are talking about? Absentee ballots tended to favor Franken in general, 60-40 or so, which is what I believe the percentage was for the group of rejected that were agreed upon by both campaigns to count. Certainly it was not the case that every one was for Franken.
This a.m. Nancy Pelosi was on TV with Barack, and she was announcing that the new Congress will soon be in place. She then vowed to “continue the path of bipartisanship and civility”. Oh yes she did! And Al Franken’s response? “F#%k that! I will not be f%&*$%& bipartisan! And civil? You want civil? F&## you!” O.K. He didn’t say that, but you know he was thinking it. If and when he actually becomes a senator, then he will say it.
Eaglehasfarted swooped and pooped. Buh bye.
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I remember traveling to a college campus in Baltimore in 1999 for some leadership training and hearing all the snickering and gaffawing from people all over the country about the Governor our state elected. I can’t imagine what it will be like now.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123111967642552909.html
http://www.openmarket.org/tag/voter-fraud/
http://www.foxnews.com/video-search/m/21412563/coleman_vs_franken.htm?pageid=63133
http://minnesotaindependent.com/16726/colemans-lead-slips-to-437
http://beltwayblips.dailyradar.com/story/minnesota_ripe_for_election_fraud_opinion/
http://online.worldmag.com/tag/al-franken/
Franken Recount Official Theme Song “Do You Beleive in Magic” by the Lovin Spoonful
chap,
even you should have a problem with this (let alone the funny business that appears to be swinging every way for Franken).
Why doesn’t MN just have another closely monitored election? Seems to me the people of MN are being put on the backburner while their officials decide who should win the election. Is this going to be the standard for close elections from now on? Let the process do it’s job, and quit interfering with recounts for God’s sake!
Chap,it seems you look at this as a(my team beat your team)but this is not a game.It has to do with the good of the country.This recount was a sham from day one and you should be able to see it.Some of us believe in integrity and honesty,do you?
This says as much about the weak a$$ republoican party that allowed this to happen, not only in Minnesota, but all over the coiuntry.
Minnesota….one less state I will spend money in!
he’ll be joining the rest of them in the District of Clowns….
After enough votes were “found”* you mean.
* stolen invented ballots stuffed into boxes, voter fraud, registration fraud(acorn anyone?) etc etc, and it helps when your hard core supporters are doing the recount.
So long as the challenges have some merit, I am in no hurry.
I know that I am a Pollyanna but I still find it shocking that we can’t have legitimate elections. It is very depressing.
This claim is not accurate. There is plenty of proof that these votes were missing.
I am stealing this from 538, but basically these are the numbers from the precinct where that occured:
In other words, from the totally independent tally of people that signed in, registered that day or sent in absentee ballots, there is a difference from the machine tally of exactly one. As opposed to 133 on the recount. Which one do you think is likelier correct?
Also, the theory is that write in ballots may have been somehow counted twice. However, if that is the case than the number of write in votes for any office would have to be even (since any number times two makes an even number. However, according to the ELECTION NIGHT totals there were 18 offices in which an odd number of write in votes had been cast.
Really what there is no proof of is that there was double counting. I note they do not cite any.
This just proves that the Marxists were smarter or at least more dedicated to their cause. They knew they didn’t have to steal all the elections at once. They had to steal just enough to get an unassailable majority in the various branches of government.
They now have the executive branch and the legislative branch. They will certainly get a solid 5-4 majority on the SCOTUS within the next few years. After that, they can use the power of the state to steal the rest of the elections they didn’t bother with this time. The revolution is pretty much complete. The statists and Marxists have won.
The constitution died alone and silently several year ago sometime after Reagan left office. There was no obituary. It wsas been buried somewhere in an unmarked grave withoug ceremony. We have retained the forms of the republic for show but the republic is dead.
I concur with the sentiment, though I’d argue that your timeline is way off. The constitution died quite long ago. The constitution explicitly states all powers not specifically enumerated in the constitution are left to the states. Most of the federal gov’t is not provided for in the constitution and much of what we have existed before Reagan.
Thugs like Putin and Ahmadinejad are licking their chops knowing that America has “elected” such spineless simpletons to enact and enforce our foreign policy.
We’re doomed……………
you should write the journal, and prove them wrong…but I’m not buying it, sorry.
Al is used to being a paid performer, and knows how to take orders from his producers and follow the script. He owes millions in political favors to his backers, and will do what they and his staff tell him to do.
Every so often he’ll be able to do a routine of his own choosing in front of the cameras.
I saw Al Franken at the Tigerland MWR (Camp Liberty, Iraq) in 2005 alongside a few unknown artists and everybody avoided Al Franken. Frankenmeister groaned on and on during the intro/speech part before autograph signing about his support for the troops despite his opposition to the war. Long story short…little-known artists were mobbed by the soldiers (all ethnicities) while everybody ignored sourpuss and snobbish “Stuart Smelly” to his enduring chagrin. Franken (stein) gave every indication our treatment of him was the same he had been getting everywhere he went and seemed resolved to the fact nobody liked him but he still had to go through the motions.
Al Franken’s body language and mannerisms surely told everyone present that the feelings were mutual with his intended audience. The guy is a zero and one thing everyone should take from this is that soldiers have an incredible BS meter and Franken pegged out. Soldiers felt his angst against them despite his hollow assurances to the contrary. He can fool garden-variety libs and clueless Minnesota voters but for those putting their lives on the line…he was exposed for the charlatan he really was. The only silver lining is that he will be detested by voters once he opens his pie hole and will be a one-term Senator. Unfortunately, it seems Republicans keep losing elections as “mysterious votes” keep showing up to break elections for Democrats. Mmmm, when will we stand up to these bully tactics and put some Democrats in jail for voter fraud? Since we aren’t we get buffoons like Franken!
I agree with you. The Constitution was mortally wounded sometime between 1861 and 1917. It lingered on for many years, suffering in silence, neglected by virtually all Americans. But, it is now clearly dead.
First,t hey should do some fact checking because it is 171 votes, not 177.
This is because those votes were put into a broken machine, something which even the Coleman camp accepted. And Ramsey County overall went 52 for Franken and 34 for Coleman. The 171 votes that were in the machine were 53/32. So right in line with what you would expect.
And it seems to me entirely consistent with the ruling with respect to the “missing” ballots. It is not about what tally was derived on election night, it is about what tally is in all likelihood more accurate.
You don’t at least buy that you can’t multiply any number by two and get an odd number? Try it.
3 x 2 = 6
53959 x 2 = 107,918.
Because that is what would have to happen if you accept that write in votes were double counted, yet 18 times there were an odd number of votes.
He may a be trash…but not sure how your scenario is worse than letting our soldiers still die there in a continuous war based on WMD lies and arrogance by Bush/Cheney/Rumsfield. By withdrawing from Iraq, we can concentrate on Afghanistan and Islamic terrorist state of Pakistan which Bush has completely ignored/cozied with its terrorist president (ex) Musharaf.
I don’t buy it because the democrats are the ones counting the votes…and I find it interesting that coleman was leading by 700 or so before the recount…and now he’s losing…this is another stalin-like ‘what matters is who counts the votes’
Tell me again…how exactly did Bush lie?
Nevermind. I’ve grown tired of shoving facts back in libtards faces on that front.
first there weren’t any lies. Saddam moved the WMDs, just like he moved his jets to iran in the first gulf war.
so you want to invade NUCLEAR PAKISTAN?? oh that should be funny as hell…you think iraq was hard??? oh please you libs would turn tail and run in a NY minute.
and if franken would have had his way, iraq would now be run by al-qaeda. and of course none of you ‘caring’ liberals were ever upset by the atrocities of saddam…no surprise.
This one actually is kinda sorta true. There were certainly some instances of double counting, but their estimate as to how much this would help Coleman is higher than I have seen it other places, and anyway, best case scenario for Coleman, it still does not net him enough votes to overtake Franken.
The MN Supreme Court (6 of the 7 btw, have been appointed by Republican governors) ruled on this and basically smacked Coleman down for lack of evidence.
Why, you can’t read if told once (or a thousand times on this issue)..Ok he it is AGAIN
Bush/Cheney/Rumsfiled: 1. Pakistan is our ally in war against terrorism:
Really, is that why they supported Taliban before 9/11 and still harbor terrorist in Wazirstan. Any reason they don’t allow our troops to kick the asses of Islamic terrorists in their “territory” of wazirstan?
2. We should attack Iraq because of stockpiles WMD (2003): Really? where are they now?
3. Mission Accomplied (in 2004).
Chap, in looking at the recount numbers the last time I saw statistics that skewed there was this guy who started out with 2 fish and six loaves of bread and …..
Well if you believe it is one big conspiracy theory, then there will be no convincing you no matter what actual evidence is presented.
And Coleman was not leading by 700 votes. Prior to the beginning of the recount, he was leading by something like 220.
#143 – right4life, thanks for saving me the time to educate him, and…
#145 – brad_sk, see #143 right4life
Of course Saddam was a bad dictator and did commit atrocities. But when did US get in the business of removing bad guy in some crazy part of world?
RINOs like you should try to listen to true conservatives like Ron Paul instead of blindly supporting Bush. You will learn some…
sorry…should have read #144 right4life and #146 brad_sk
One thing to remember – after the initial votes were counted, Coleman won by 226 votes. Then the mandatory ‘recount’ began. Funny thing was every day Franken’s numbers went up! Coleman gained NO votes!
So, to say Minnesotans voted in Franken is incorrect. Coleman was ‘voted’ in. But after all the duplicate (you should have seen some of the ballots – both Franken and Coleman marked but with a line by Coleman’s name – so the vote went to Franken!), invalid, lost ballots were evaluated by a panel of 4 judges and the DEM. Secretary of State, the race was given to Franken. Oh, and who helped the SoS receive his position ………….. you guessed it – MoveOn.org!
obviously they are. are they perfect? no, but a lot better than IRAN For example…
they were moved to Syria, as our satellites showed, and as the number 2 man in his air force, Georges Sada said.
yeah we defeated saddam. that was the mission..then we had another one…defeat al-qaeda in iraq….how hard is this??
blindly, brad? the one thing he did right was invade iraq, and that’s pretty much it as far as I’m concerned. amnesty and bailouts pretty much ruined my opinion of George Bush. I don’t blindly follow anybody with a (R) beside their name, unlike most (D)’s.
when they support al-qaeda…yeah…remember why Clinton bombed the factory in the Sudan???
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let see Washington state…ACORN…no nothing to see here…
he’s a nutcase. and so are you.
1. Pakistan is our ally in war against terrorism: Overall yes, they have been since 9/11 which changed everything. Most Muslims supported the Taliban as they were considered internal to their country. The Taliban assited and still assist Bin Laden; that is their threat to us.
2. We should attack Iraq because of stockpiles WMD (2003): Really? where are they now? Only one of MANY good reasons, most admittedly unstated. Reason #1 is look at a map. DUH!! In terms of WMD, 500 mteric tons of yellowcake from Niger flown to Canada in 2008 seems to qualify; various stockpiles and abandoned storage sites seems to support the intell. We also found Chem suits, masks, atropine injectors, etc. issued to their soldiers when we captured them in March 2003? Why?
3. Mission Accomplied (in 2004). That sign was for the ship, which had just completed the longest at sea deployment in a combat zone in the history of the US Navy. I think they merited the sign. The Harry Reids of the world seized on the lie and simply repeated it ad nauseum.
Even on Bush’s worst day of decision making Bush recognized the war was never lost and a troop surge was needed. Far better the the Dems. Consider the situation if they had prevailed. 1.8 million dead Cambodians is a good marker to hang your hat on. I have 58,000 reasons why I never want a Democrat to lead another war in my lifetime.
Yea right…cutting left leg is better than cutting right leg…Why? because you say so…Atleast Iran has not had the guts to attack us yet like the Taliban/Al-quaeda on 9/11
Exactly number 2 man in air force said so…Not Bush/Cheney or Rumsfield or number one man. No official proof of such.
If thats the case, why did Bush mention it as a mistake in his introspection interview recently. You know better than that.
WMD lies huh? Which lie was that?
And you know Iraq didn’t have any WMD by what method?
laughable. remember the marine barracks in lebanon…hizbullah…Iran’s dog???
or taking our embassy hostage in 1979???
or that time reagan wiped out their navy???
if there was ‘official’ proof…you’d think it was some BOOOOOSH conspiracy
because bush is gutless.
You clearly have no idea what you are talking about or you would not have said something so patently false.
Of course Coleman gained votes. See this link, for example. All of those red stripes represent districts where Coleman picked up votes.
Also, he picked up over 300 from initially rejected absentee ballots.
Yea right…people who consider valid facts and proofs before making opinions/decision are nutcases for RINOs like you. Enjoy that kool-aid with your RINO friends making fun of true conservatism.
brad_sk – please think for a moment. Remember a guy named Eric Rudolph. We “knew” where we was within 10 sq miles. How long did it take us to catch him. If my history is correct, it too several years in only 10 sq. miles. How many square miles are there in Iraq?
Your logic is further flawed by the “advantage” of hindsight. At the time, what would a reasonable person have believed given the then incoming intelligence? I know what I’d have believed then. What would you believe if “every” intelligence report coming to you said Iraq had WMD?
Lastly – a logic question – since you seem to indicate that standard was actually HAVING WMD’s, I take it you are ok with Iran just continuing on their merry way to make a nuclear bomb? At what point do we say stop? At what point do we take action? Ever?
When is it a threat?
you’re a ‘true conservative’???
thanks for the laughs..when you get some facts, instead of wacko left-wing talking points, let me know.
Good point…I agree that WMD have not been found and may be found in future considering the size of Iraq. But again, we have already spent >5 years in search of them with some of the brightest folks in our military.
Secondly, there was intelligence on the other side saying Iraq may not have WMD…Even IAEA mentioned that there may be none. People mentioning such points were ridiculed before going on war based on WMD argument. Ultimately the concentration on real war in Afghanistan reduced and now we have a resurgent taliban/al-qaueda in Afghanistan/Pakistan and Iraq too.
So brad_sk, why do you think WMD’s were considered such a “threat” when the US is so far away from Iraq and their means of delivery were regional?
Think Israel and ponder “what if.”
From WSJ:
These Democrats are criminals and should be headed for prison, rather than the United States Senate.
more left-wing talking points, no proof at all. unless you invade pakistan, there is little that we can do about that mess.
are you for invading pakistan???
No…you don’t have such a mature brain to understand logical reasoning or facts. You can continue keep calling names as wacko left-wing or nutcase or anything else for things you can’t comprehend.
This article absolutely destroys that WSJ article cited above.
Good read.
you spout left-wing talking points, that are discredited. and I discredited them again with sources…you are unable to backup anything you say.
Crime pays.
You gave no sources..discredit nothing. Your only point was about a number two person’s statement. No official facts nor any verifiable statements from top brass in our adminsitration. We did not go to war based on some number two person’s mindset, did we?
When shown the fallacy in your argument you answerer were only “bush is gutless” or “that will be considered conspiracy if it were to be there (#161)”. I have seen only crap arguments with no sensible logic from you. Of course more name calling when you don’t have anything mature to say.
Shenanigans aside… and there are definitely shenanigans here… the people of Minnesota are idiots for even letting it come to this. Norm Coleman was no prize, but Stuart Smalley? Come on!
They deserve the opprobrium that shall be heaped upon them. This is a total disgrace.
I can’t believe you lefties are still spewing out this ridiculous claim about “lies”. It is only a lie if the people are purposely told an untruth to fool them. The intelligence showed there were WMD’s and you know it. There was worldwide consensus to that! If I hear that tired mantra one more time, I swear I will jump through this screen and slap you silly.
you’re a liar…again check out the following post…I gave a link to a washington times story….oh but they’re in on the conspiracy!!!
On January 5th, 2009 at 4:37 pm, right4life said
uh those are facts…as far as american officials…
Don Bordenkircher – who served two years as national director of prison and jail operations in Iraq– told WND that about 40 prisoners he spoke with “boasted of being involved in the transport of WMD warheads to Syria.”
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Saddam Hussein periodically removed guards on the Syrian border and replaced them with his own intelligence agents who supervised the movement of banned materials between the two countries, U.S. investigators have discovered.
The recent discovery by the Bush administration’s Iraq Survey Group (ISG) is fueling speculation, but is not proof, that the Iraqi dictator moved prohibited weapons of mass destruction (WMD) into Syria before the March 2003 invasion by a U.S.-led coalition.
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NIMA chief James Clapper, a retired Air Force general and a leading member of the U.S. intelligence community, told reporters he linked the disappearance of Iraqi WMDs with the large number of Iraqi trucks that crossed into Syria before and during the U.S. invasion. The assessment was that these trucks contained missiles and WMD components banned by the United Nations Security Council.
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moron.
For the last time…No, there was no solid evidence. There were only border line evidence, but then there was also border line evidence saying they may not have WMDs as well. People mentioning caution before going to war to find more facts (including IAEA) were just ridiculed and mocked. Things found till now are also items which may be used to make WMD along with hundred other things and even those are just statements (such as “trucks moved to Syria containing material” – but no specific knowledge of sites).
Ron Paul – Why didn’t you efficiently use millions raised to win the presidency and slap all RINO’s who are still supporting Bush/Cheney in their unnecessary war in Iraq or their non-conservative policy of spending tax payer money on bailout or even their amnesty policy?
Hey, folks, can we get back on topic?
If you haven’t learned the lesson yet, I will put it very plainly for you:
The USA is no longer capable of conducting an unbiased, objective, fair, and legal election.
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let me guess…that hero to the kids, that angel, Saddam just forgot to destroy this shell….
and where did al-qaeda get this at???
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That’s the common mantra about Dems vs. Reps–The Democrats where the party of the Civil Rights movement and the Republicans were the racists opposing it. You can’t get more ass-backward than that. Hell, Dr. Martin Luther King was a registered REPUBLICAN. Had he not been murdered and were still alive today, he’d be in the same boat as Clarance Thomas and Shelby Steele.
Shhhhhhh! Keep this up and Jimmy Carter will want to monitor the next election. That’s as stupid as putting Al Gore in charge of… anything actually.
*shakes head*
Been there, saw it. Palms have been greased, details have been hushed, and you’ve made up your mind so there’s nothing anyone can say or do to change it.
And don’t go praying to Ron Paul, he’s not going to help you. there’s not a military doctor alive I’d waste a bullet on, let alone something as precious as a vote.
However: if you remember there were warehouses full of empty chemical dispensers – bombs and artillery shells. If anyone in the media or public in general had higher than a room temperature IQ they would have known right then and there we were justified for going in. The chemicals to fill these shells are the easy part – any have decent chemical factory can wip together nerve agent, what do you think insecticide is? And Iraq hads the most chemical plants in the middle east. It’s the dispensers that are the hard part!
I have no doubt that Al Franken at some point will become a liability for the Senate Democrats. Eventually he’s going to become unglued, and I think at least once he’s going to try to inject his humor into a legislative debate when he can’t come up with a quick argument.
Well… Norm Coleman was derided as a RINO here as well. One would think you all would be happy.
I suspect a few of you really are happy.
You can’t really get any lower than this, unless we elect Bill Ayres. Minnesota just became dead to me by the way. Idiots. Jesse Ventura, Keith Elleson, Paul Wellstone, Prince… bridges that fall down because of pigeon crap…. You are just a bunch of filthy socialist half-monkey half-Canadians.
Oh, really? Well, here is a message for you from a Minnesotan…Stay the hell out of my state. We don’t want you here anyway. Your comments are disgusting. I am a conservative who did not vote for Franken and I deeply resent being called names. STFU.
This souunds just like Washington state back in 2004. The GOP Rossi had beaten the democrat but after two recounts and some dead people’s ballots in democratic King co, the current demo prevailed and is still the governor. Looks like the GOP has to win elections by landslides to avoid these recounts.
He tried to choke a man and made fun of breast cancer victims.
Who is worse- Al Franken or the idiots who voted for him?