About that Israeli strike on the UN “school” Updated
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For context, watch this video from the UNRWA boys’ school in Gaza in 2007:
Terrorists from the Gaza Strip fire mortars from an UNRWA boys’ school in Gaza on 29 Oct. 2007. Hamas and other terror organizations in Gaza make deliberate use of civilians living in populated areas as human shields.
Fast forward to 2009:
An Israeli official says Palestinian militants fired on Israeli soldiers from the courtyard of a U.N. school where dozens of people died in fiery explosions.
The official spoke on condition of anonymity because he said the army is still drafting the country’s official response to the incident.
Palestinian medics said 34 people were killed in an Israeli strike outside a U.N. school in the northern Gaza town of Jebaliya. The United Nations confirmed 30 were killed and 55 injured.
The Israeli official said “hostile fire” was directed at the soldiers from within the school. He said soldiers returned fire and multiple explosions went off, presumably emanating from munitions stored there.
Related: “Hamas operatives are in the hospital and have disguised themselves as nurses and doctors,” one official said.
Flashback – more human shield ploys: Ambulances for terror.
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Lawhawk has more. So does Israellycool.
Update: The Israeli consulate has issued a statement:
Earlier today, upwards of 35 Palestinian civilians were reportedly killed in two unfortunate accidents in Gaza, one at a school run by UNRWA and the second at an apartment in Gaza City. These deaths are indeed a tragedy, and investigations are underway to ensure that further operations continue to avoid civilian casualties.
These initial investigations indicate that Hamas used the UNRWA school to fire at IDF forces, indicating once again that Hamas is more than willing to sacrifice Gaza citizens to promote terrorism. International law recognizes that the presence of civilians in an area of conflict does not delegitimize a military target. Israel and the IDF will continue to abide by these laws and to make every effort to avoid harming civilians in conducting further operations. We urge the international community to strongly condemn Hamas’s cynical exploitation of its citizens and firing of rockets, which remain the most effective way to ensure peace for Gazans and Israelis alike.
Update: Related video and analysis from Allahpundit here.
And more from Jim Hoft, who writes that IDF says the bodies of two Hamas jihadis were found at the school along with a missile launcher with anti-tank missiles.
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And all the Lefties are buying the mularkey from Hamas, especially since they desperately WANT Israel to be the bad guy, as well as America. They will soon come out with talking points that it was teh USA that supplied the bombs that hit the UN Indoctrination Center, er, school.
Proof that the UN is harboring HAMAS Terrorists!
With friends like the UN, who needs enemies!
Hamas and other terror organizations in Gaza make deliberate use of civilians living in populated areas as human shields.
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That’s their strategy: Use innocent civilians and places like schools as shields and then blame Israel for killing innocent civilians. Hamas is to blame for most if not all civilian casualities in this conflict.
So Hamas hides behind civilians to shoot at Israel. Then when Israel shoots back and hits the civilians, Israel is the bad guy.
In any case, it’s been learned, repeatedly, that Hamas will stage events to make Israel look bad, and the Lame Stream Media, eager to smear Israel and the USA, will broadcast it.
Because they know they can count on the rational, sane world to condemn attacks on civilians.
Israel drops warnings that they are attacking. Hamas affords the innocent shoppers in the marketplace no such warning.
Terrorists, especially Islamic terrorists, love death (and murdering others) more than we value freedom. As Golda Meir said:
This image sums it up well enough
I’m reminded of The Dark Knight when the Joker had his goons swap outfits with their hostages so the goons looked like doctors and the hostages were tied/gagged with fake guns taped to their hands.
I’m also reminded of how Alfred had to deal with the maniac in Burma who “just liked to watch the world burn”, they caught him by burning the forest down.
There is no way Israel can win this war (maybe one or two battles, but not the war itself). The whole world is turning against Israel and in favor of Palestinians and people are beginning to boycott Israeli products. I went to some european message boards (in French and in German) and the number of anti-Israeli / antisemite posts were beyond imagination. Just today a Synagog was attacked in France’s Upper Garonne near Toulouse. Bush is a total lame duck. I am sure Obama will be able to bring long-lasting peace in this area.
Why do we host the U.N.? It has far outlived it’s usefulness.
Right now I am listening to some “Palestinian Spokeswomen” decrying the destruction of a mosque–”What would the world do if a Church or Synagogue were hit”. Not much the few dozen times the Palis have attacked a Church or Synagogue.
Hamas and associated terrorist are responsible for ALL the deaths. No rockets, no counter attack. GO IDF.
Socky #6–You’re right. Excellent picture.
The past few days there was a video circulating that purported to show IDF blowing up a market in Gaza. I was reading comments on several blogs like, “OMG the evil Zionist pigs, this is proof that they just want to kill innocent palestinians!” etc etc. Then the video was retracted, because it was really from 2005 when a Hamas truck carrying weapons detonated in the market. Those same commenters… totally silent. Except for the one who said, “this just proves how amateur Hamas is next to the evil Zionist pigs.” Ahhhh truth, who cares. We know the Zionist pigs are to blame for all the world’s ills, regardless.
And you’re sure of this how…? Because Chicago is so peaceful? Skokie?
How? Will he lay hands on the Palestinians and make them suddenly stop thirsting for Jewish blood?
The Palestinians don’t want peace. They want the destruction of the Jewish state, and repeatedly say so. Obummer can’t to anything to change that. The only way to stop it is to go totalitarian on their a$$e$. Kill all the terrorists, and take over their schools so the hate isn’t passed on to the children (as is done now).
#8 Edelweiss, I suspect you overestimate how little America actually cares about what old Europe thinks.
I’ll bet you that at the end of Obama’s 4 or 8 years, there will be no peace in the region. He doesn’t walk on water.
I’ve referenced this quote before because it is all you need to know about who the good guys are in the Middle East:
Yet these are the people you hold in highest regard, even above your own country. These are the people that you would like to see us emulate. In short, they’re your guys, these anti-semitic, pro-murderous terrorist, effete snobbish twits.
Thanks for that post.
I think these Hamas tactics are losing strategies. Since Israel KNOWS everyone is going to criticize them no matter what they do, they might just as well bomb the schools and the hospitals, and IRAN while it is at it.
What Israel needs to do now is very, very simple; clsoe with the enemey regardless of where he is, how he is dressed and utterly destroy him.
No matter what Israel does they are and will be hated. So they need to ignore everyone else and get the job done.
b-cat – You are more than welcome
Flyoverman – absolutely correct
Forgive me, but I cannot not comment:
You ignorant, immature, dangerous fool.
You sound like the perfect Dhimmi, a sissy (I know you’re female, but “sissy” still fits) cowering before, and sucking up to, a bully.
So, Israel should stop defending itself against barbarian animals whose only reason for existence is to annihilate Israel?
Because “…the whole world is turning against Israel and in favor of Palestinians and people are beginning to boycott Israeli products.”, that is a reason for civilized people and civilized nations to turn against Israel?
Because “anti-Israeli / antisemite posts were beyond imagination” at some European (i.e., super sissy Dhimmi) “message boards (in French and in German)” (super-DUPER sissy Dhimmi), that is a reason for civilized people and civilized nations to turn against Israel?
“Just today a Synagog[sic] was attacked in France’s Upper Garonne near Toulouse.”
Another reason for civilized people and civilized nations to turn against Israel?
You are pathetic.
“Bush is a total lame duck.”
A perfect example of a nonsequitur.
What in God’s name does this have to do with the thrust of barbaric, Islam?
You are an idiot.
I apologize, but I had to state the obvious.
“I am sure Obama will be able to bring long-lasting peace in this area.”
The easiest way to “bring ‘peace’” is to surrender.
You are beyond idiocy.
I am at a loss for words.
Can anyone help out here?
Oh, and by the way…grow up, if you can.
(P.S.-Preview is not working for me.)
granite: thanks for the post & BTW–I cannot help this one!
Don’t you know to never ask for details? I’m still waiting for lgm to tell me what his solution is.
Besides, edelweiss only visits this site when there’s a commercial break on Hannah Montana.
Bingo!
ROTFLMAO!!!
Is that sarcasm or are you psychotic?
It would be humorous to watch him sink as he tried…except for the fact that he’s soon to be our President. God help us all.
She also thinks she is the only one who’s ever been to Europe or understands their languages. She thinks Europe are at the peak of enlightenment and if we were just like them there would be world peace tomorrow. She doesn’t see evil at work in her own backyard (I believe she lives in Switzerland, largely on the dole).
Hamas = coward.
granite,
Good one.
Seconds post #22
I’m sure that for every rocket launch site and otherwise area where the Palestinians base their terrorist activities, they keep plenty of little boys and girls around so that they can show the world (when said children are killed or wounded) how barbaric the Israelis are whenever they attack these sites.
That is the Palestinian way. It is their culture of death. They broadcast programs aimed at little children which indoctrinates them to hate Israelis and want to sacrifice themselves in order to murder as many of them as possible for the glory and honor of Allah.
The Palestinian people, for the most part, are a lost people. They have lost all rational sense, and if they were actually succeed in destroying Israel and murdering every Jew on the Earth, how would it end? Would they simply turn into a Muslim version of a Norman Rockwell painting, where mothers kiss their babies, dads are playing catch with their sons, and people greet everyone they meet on the street with smiles and a handshake?
I seriously doubt it. People don’t simply revert to being civilized and social when they’ve been in bloodthirsty mode for the past sixty or so years. These people either need to be utterly defeated, subjugated, and rehabilitated, or they need to be eradicated. In order for sanity and and civility to survive in the Middle East, one of the two must occur.
To everyone responding to Edelweiss, remember this Bible verse.
She’s said before she’s an atheist. So, lets pray for her.
I know this has been commented on many times, but edelweiss, are you retarded? I guess Obama will bring long-lasting peace to the area just the way Clinton did. Right? Right?
Oh, wait. The Palestinians are still killing innocent people! I guess that “long-lasting” thing is just clever socialist spin. My bad.
Which is why these people are the perfect enemy. They have, as you say, a “culture of death.” EXCELLENT.
Since we believe, “No one ever won a war by dying for their cause, they won it by making the other poor, dumb, b******d die for his cause,” (apologizes to Gen Patton) who better to have for an enemy. How often do you have someone like Daffy Duck who says to you “I demand that you shoot me now,” for an enemy. Works for me.
Accomodate them at your earliest opportunity.
How? By declaring war on Israel and joining the Muslim states in completely wiping them out? You said yourself that Israel cannot win and that Israel is on the wrong side of this (based upon what folks in Europe “think” about it). So, how will peace occur if the Israelis fail, AND the Palestinians continue with their culture and policies of death and destruction?
edelweiss, I’d LOVE to hear you or some other liberal drone explain how Obama is going to “bring peace” to the Middle East. Tell us how you think that this empty suit (Obama) could possibly do such a monumental accomplishment.
As long as she is not an American citizen, and cannot/does not vote here, I agree.
Otherwise, if she indeed does vote in our elections, I think we’ll have to pray for ourselves.
Won’t be long before youtube pulls this and every other video that shows the truth.
Does anyone have a link to a video from a few years ago when the terrorists were using U.N. ambulances as escape vehicles after attacking Israeli troops?
The UN is worthless.
Dude, don’t bogart that bong.
Israel should be mindful of the Obots’ saying “YES WE CAN!” and remember that as long as there is one person who raises a finger in threat toward a person of Jewish extraction or with Jewish sympathies, they will not be able to sleep securely at night.
The “people” who read the q’oran, and take the words to action – such as the numerous references to killing and subjugating jews and infidels cannot be made to accept peace. Peace will only come when those “people” are at thermal equilibrium (i.e. – room temperature.)
I just cannot believe how uneducated liberals and peace lovers are. Peace can only come through superior force that will be deployed and used to meet challenges to the peace and security of a nation. The option is to either live on ones knees or die on ones feet.
As for me, I will not submit. And I stand beside those who will not, as a force for truth, justice and freedom.
Englishqueen: Excellent post; that is a classic quote that certainly applies here.
Socky: That picture does indeed say it all.
If one side hides behind/amongst civilians, civilians are going to die.
If one side hides in a Mosque or other place of worship(or hides their weapons there), places that should be considered sacred will be destroyed.
This is how Hamas wages war.
Great point! How can peace exist as long as evil people want to challenge your right to exist? As long as people such as these Palestinian barbarian terror-mongers exist, then peace cannot co-exist with them. The evil must be laid low, rendered hopeless and irrelevant in order for peace to ever come about.
How come I keep hearing about civilian deaths and how brutal the Israeli forces are…but yet hear nothing about the fact that Hamas is STILL lobbing rockets into Israel? Why do we not hear about how the Israelis go so far as to text message folks ahead of time in an effort to decrease civilian casualities?
Personally, I don’t know how the Israelis managed to put up with the constant shelling for as long as they did!
Aren’t neighbors a pain in the @SS? You lob a few hundred rockets over the border, kill dozens of innocent civilians, and they get all bent out of shape. Some nerve.
very interesting….the Bible also says there is a man coming who can bring ‘peace’ to this area, at least for a while…he is the Anti-Christ, the Beast…and he will be hailed as savior by people like you…
just like obama is…things that make you go hmmmmmm…
Blanketing the entire area with 30 megaton nuclear weapons MIGHT bring peace. But seriously, The arabs want to kill and/or expell all jews from Israel (minus the sex slaves of course). This is thier stated goal. Edelweiss, Do you support genocide? Because your post indicates that you do.
*whew* I’m just glad I don’t have to care about some dead children now. They aren’t ours so who cares.
From Wikipedia, not some snarling conservative.
Ed, are you sure you know what your moniker really stands for? Maybe you are.
And, after the IDF moved into Gaza Hamas closed and evacuated the schools, right? Guards were not posted at hospitals either? Nothing about Hamas’ actions pass the smell test.
Nevermind, that must have been the Israelis that actually care about their kids and medical community.
moonshot: Huh??
On January 6th, 2009 at 2:09 pm, moonshot said:
*whew* I’m just glad I don’t have to care about some dead children now. They aren’t ours so who cares.
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We care. That’s why we condemn using those children as shields and using their schools as hiding places.
Also, strapping bombs to those children’s chests and sending them into crowds of innocent ISRAELI civilians, some of whom are children themselves.
You do know “Islam” is Arabic for “peace through submission“, right?
Islamic terrorists have made their goal clear, more than once: the total submission of all the world to an Islamic caliphate, governed by Islamic theocratic law. They will continue attacking, killing, and condemning us until they have their way.
I’ve argued before: Hamas recently voted to institute shari’a law, so I think we should replace the governing bodies of any city, state, or nation sympathetic to the terrorists with Hamas officials. Let them institute shari’a law and then see what this “peace” really is.
Diplomacy can only be a useful tool if both sides are reasonable. Islamic terrorists are anything but, so you don’t reason with insanity. You defeat it.
If it comes down to protecting my kids from an idiot firing at my house from his front porch, you are right, I don’t care about his kids. His house becomes a valid target and if his kids end up in the impact area, that’s war.
As Sherman said, War is cruelty and the crueler it is the quicker it ends.
I have begged every Senator and Representative I’ve ever had to vote down any budget that inlcuded MY tax dollars going to the U.N. It’s a despicable, good-for-nothing, terrorist organization! I hate them!
The most disturbing thing about this is that those “poor” Palestinian “civilians” willingly go to those places, knowing full well that the militia gangsters use them to attack Israel. One would have to think that are they so stupid that they have not learned from past incidents that Israel will hit those places?
Well, I don’t think they are that stupid. They are willing participants in a PR sham, who look forward to their rewards in heaven as martyrs for the cause of Islam. THERE ARE NO PALESTINIAN CIVILIANS! But, there are probably vast numbers of Palestinian dupes.
Hey, Hamas……..
Why don’t you hide your terrorists amongst the journalists there in Gaza?
That would free Israel to rain death and destruction down on Hamas without offending anyone but the journalists killed in the process, and no one would be able to report on it.
He’s going to organize their communities into peace?
Is edelweiss for real, or is someone doing a spot-on parody of an Obama cultist?
There is an easy route to peace; the Palestinians have to stop attacking Israel. Any chance of that?
Talk about your classic WIN-WIN…..
On January 6th, 2009 at 2:25 pm, Socky said:
He’s going to organize their communities into peace?
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Let me just say: HAR!
On January 6th, 2009 at 2:17 pm, Flyoverman said:
*thumbs up* I think that’s like in the Bible or something. Thank you for being honest and making my point.
On January 6th, 2009 at 2:09 pm, moonshot said:
You know, you’re right. Those poor children.
I think everyone in the entire western world who isn’t a Mohammaden should just go to Gaza, yes, fly to Israel or Egypt, walk straight from the airport to the Gazan border, walk right across and surrender to the nearest Hamas representative.
And convert to Islam right there!
For the children.
Thanks for helping all of us recapture our humanity and recognize just how much more caring you are.
For the children.
On January 6th, 2009 at 2:35 pm, moonshot said:
And by the way, you stupid collectivist twit, have you gone to any HAMAS web sites and pleaded with the Mohammadans to stop firing rockets into Israel?
Post a few links to where you’ve asked the Hamas Mohammadens to “give peace a chance” for the “children.”
Otherwise shut up.
I’m so glad for moonshot’s concern for Israel’s children. They are the ones having rockets and artillery fired in their direction indiscriminately.
Hamas cares nothing for their own children, much less yours.
If your point was that you are an idiot, yes it was well proven. I guess you will not mind if a bad guy just randiomly shoots up your house for 8 years.
On January 6th, 2009 at 2:40 pm, b-cat said:
I’m so glad for moonshot’s concern for Israel’s children. They are the ones having rockets and artillery fired in their direction indiscriminately.
Hamas cares nothing for their own children, much less yours.
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Amen.
Which of these civilians are “innocent” again? The ones who turn a blind eye to “freedom fighters” who masquerade as doctors, or the ones who store munitions in schools? Is it the ones who fire mortars from the school yard, or the ones who store munitions in mosques? Are they the ones who destroyed the greenhouses left for them when Israel left Gaza? Or is it the ones who smuggle various goods down the same tunnels that the rockets come down?
It’s getting easier and easier to demonize these people, if you actually pay attentions.
Perhaps wasted
breath, er…typing, but good post nonetheless.Regarding the blog-screen name of the poster of #s 45 & 58: one just could not make up a better, more appropriate one!
I’m one of those rare people who care for the children of both sides. You look on lefties blogs and see only concern for Palestinian children…you look on my rightie blogs and only see concern for Israeli children. It really gets old.
Not to mention cutting the heads off of helpless captives, setting off bombs on subways, taking over schools and torturing the children, and flying planes full of people into buildings full of people.
Buy this woman a Bible…
To be fair, Hamas only shot 100 rockets indiscriminately into Israeli population centers during the cease fire. Cutting way back like that really shows their committment to a peaceful resolution. I’m sure Obambi can capitalize on that sentiment to bring the two sides together in perfect harmony (cue the Coca Cola music).
Fine then I am sure you will join us in telling hamas to stop using children as human shields in violation of international law and remind them that using protected sites for military operations removes their protected status.
Oh and you might want to tell them to stop deliberately shelling Israeli day care centers. Thanks.
On January 6th, 2009 at 2:49 pm, moonshot said:
I’m one of those rare people who care for the children of both sides. You look on lefties blogs and see only concern for Palestinian children…you look on my rightie blogs and only see concern for Israeli children. It really gets old.
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I care deeply about Palestinian children who are used by evil adults as human shields and suicide bombers (yes, I used the word “evil”). It disgusts me. What we’re saying is: whose fault is it that Palestinian children are being killed; the Israelis or Hamas, which deliberately uses children in such a way?
The difference is that the children on BOTH SIDES are victims of the Palestinian terrorists. Every way you look at it, the Palestinians are either launching attacks to murder Israelis (men, women, and children), or they are placing their OWN men, women, and children purposefully in harm’s way.
No matter who the children are, they are victims of the Palestinian culture of death.
Why would they want to harm the press…one of their best assets?
<blockquoteI’m one of those rare people who care for the children of both sides. You look on lefties blogs and see only concern for Palestinian children…you look on my rightie blogs and only see concern for Israeli children. It really gets old.
So how do you feel about Hamas storing explosives in a UN school? That’s what blew up. Too easy to say “I care about children” and ignore the rocket firings from Hamas for YEARS…
It is the fault of Hamas, of course. I’m sure when they meet Jesus, he’ll explain to them that’s what they get for being born in Palestine.
Moonshot,
I think the best way to say this is that war seems to be nothing more than an unending series of awful choices where all you can do is pick the lesser of two otherwise horrible choices.
History does teach us a valuable lesson. If you cannot avoid war, if you have no other choice, then you fight to win deceisvely and end it once and for all.
I give you four examples Germany, Korea, Japan and Vietnam. In WWII we defeated Germany and Japan totally. After we left, North Vietnam won totally over the South. Those three countries are at peace, all is resolved good or bad, and the suffering is over. You cannot say that about Korea.
It is an awful thing to say, but until one side or the other wins in the Middle East the suffering will continue FOR EVERYONE. If you care for the people of Gaza long term, then pray Israel destroys Hamas so the next generation there can live like the Germans, Japanese, and Vietnamese; in peace where their children are safe.
Israel GAVE Gaza to the Palestinians to illustrate its desire for peace. The Palestinians gave Israel NOTHING in return but a promise to not use it as a base for further attacks.
So you care about the children, good, now what about the rest of the people?
once again proving yourself an idiot.Do you even know what the fight ing is about? I doubt it.
Again pleading ignorance.
Uh-oh. Someone else who speaks for Jesus…
Jesus will also explain to them that they had an opportunity to follow his example, accect his Grace, and love their neighbor, as opposed to screaming for their neighbors destruction and authorizing the cruxifiction of their own people.
Wow, I’m an idiot for caring about children on both sides. lol
On January 6th, 2009 at 3:05 pm, sonofdy said:
It is the fault of Hamas, of course. I’m sure when they meet Jesus, he’ll explain to them that’s what they get for being born in Palestine.
once again proving yourself an idiot.Do you even know what the fight ing is about? I doubt it.
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All Moonshot apparently “knows” is that this is all America and/or Israel’s fault, and that we are the ones who don’t care about children.
That last post was rather bizarre; not quite sure what point Mr./Ms. Moonshot was trying to make.
No, you are an idiot for having no clue as to the cause of this conflict, no clue as to the tactics of this conflict, and no clue as towhat is actualy happening. Thus you are an idiot.
Breaking News:
I guess he’s an idiot too and I bet he has no clue about the history of this conflict!
It doesn’t make you an idiot. What makes you an idiot is oversimplifying very complicated matters. In addition, to assuming that you know what’s in the hearts of the posters here. That’s what makes you an idiot. I’ll not waste any additional breathe/energy typing since many here have already tried to explain to you that sometimes innocent people die when war is waged. It isn’t pretty but what about war is? If you don’t have the stomach for it, steer clear from the threads that reference it.
If he had said what you did, he would be. Now I am done with your clueless ravings. Come back when you have some clue as to what is actualy going on.
Moonshot:
Enough already. Who here has said, “I don’t care about civilian casualties if they are Palestinian”?
Our point is not that we don’t care, but that Hamas is inflicting these casualties on their own people through their tactics and trying to shift the blame onto Israel.
If you think that blaming Hamas is somehow the equivalent of “not caring”, then that’s your hang-up.
Tell us Jesus-lite, is Bush concerned because Hamas uses civilians as shields or are you “guessing”?
I managed to get a few decent people to say they care about all the children when it never would have been mentioned otherwise. So, I guess my job is done here.
I’m gonna head over to HuffPo and get called an idiot for caring about the Israeli children killed by Hamas rockets now.
Obama speaks out.
On January 6th, 2009 at 3:02 pm, moonshot said:
You’re right, Israel should do nothing after thousands of rockets are launched at its own civilian children.
The Israelis should just shut up and quietly let their own children get killed whenever Hamas, Hezbollah, Iran, France or the UN tells them they should.
Yes, Jesus wants all Jews to live under the threat of rocket attacks. Because the children of Palestine are so cute. Anything and everything must be endured for the chilllllren.
And we know this because Moonshot cares so much.
Thank you for showing us your superior empathy, Moonshot.
On-my-soap-box, Carefull, jesus speaks through him!!! But don’t worry, there are medications for that problem.
On January 6th, 2009 at 3:19 pm, moonshot said:
I’m gonna head over to HuffPo and get called an idiot for caring about the Israeli children killed by Hamas rockets now.
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Ladies and gentlemen: Moonshot just admitted to caring about Hamas killing Israeli children!
On January 6th, 2009 at 3:19 pm, moonshot said:
Uh huh. You’re brave.
Tell you what, go right to the source of the conflict. Hamas, Iran, and various other Islamo-fascist websites.
And if you’re really brave, post your real name and mailing address after you tell them to care about Israeli children.
What good is “caring” if you cannot grasp the cause of their suffering and deaths? If the Palestinians cared about their OWN children, then they would mount their military attacks against Israel AWAY from where they are. THEN, when Israeli forces DO retaliate (which, until very recently, they haven’t), then their children wouldn’t be subjected to the same danger (probably MORE so) as their terrorist rocket and mortar launchers.
THEN, all you’d have to “care” about would be the dead and wounded Israeli children, because those would be the only ones being targeted (wittingly or unwittingly). But even then, “caring” is meaningless until you can grasp the reason for the suffering, and are willing to acknowledge Israel’s right to exist as a people.
If you are unwilling to do that, then you don’t give a damn about the children at all.
Dana Perino, spokeswoman for the White House, said: “I saw the reports about the school. I don’t have any information about that. I think that we should not jump to conclusions and we should wait to find out what the evidence says.
“What we do know is that Hamas often hides amongst innocents and uses innocent people, including children, as human shields.”
Will an Obama spokesperson ever say something like this? Time will tell.