No, thanks, “my friend”

By Michelle Malkin  •  January 7, 2009 01:53 PM

John McCain wants your money. This solicitation is landing in many readers’ e-mail boxes:

My Friend,

In the time since the 2008 presidential campaign ended I have had a chance to reflect on many things. And as I said on election night, I truly cannot adequately express how indebted I am to you, my entire campaign team and my running mate, Governor Sarah Palin.

The road was a difficult one from the outset. Yet, your faith, your support and friendship never wavered. Just as I have proudly served my country for more than half a century I am as committed as ever to helping see our mission through.

So to continue the movement, I have decided to launch a new grassroots organization called Country First.

Today, I’m asking you as a friend and supporter to renew your commitment to our common goals by becoming a Charter Member of Country First with an online contribution.

Country First will allow us to strengthen our Party, better define our Republican ideals and message, recruit and back strong, dedicated candidates and continue our efforts to bring real reform to government by always putting our country and the noble ideals she stands for first.

Together, we can make government more responsive to today’s problems and more answerable to the people. That’s why I hope you will become a Charter Member of Country First and support our cause by following this link to make a generous contribution of any amount today.

With your help we can work to elect these new leaders to Governorships, Statehouses, the U.S. Senate and U.S. House of Representatives in 2010 and beyond. Once in office they will become fierce advocates for limited government, economic opportunity, personal responsibility and strong national security.

On Election Night last year, I called on all Americans not to despair of our present difficulties but to believe always in the promise and greatness of America, because nothing is inevitable here.

Today, I am asking you to join Country First to continue fighting for the worthy cause of revitalizing both our democracy and our Party.

Our goals will never be realized if your voice falls silent. You are the best hope for our country’s success. Please stay in this fight with me; our country needs your service now as much as ever.

I know that together we can make a difference – we already have. Again, I thank you for your unwavering friendship and support.

Sincerely,

John McCain

P.S. Country First will serve as a powerful voice for the American people. It will allow us to get our Republican message out to the voters and elect a new generation of Republican leaders who can go to Statehouses and Congress to fight for all we believe in. Please join as a Charter Member of Country First by following this link to make a contribution today. Thank you.

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  1. #585532
    On January 7th, 2009 at 3:26 pm, right_on said:

    McCain’s message is stagnant. It didn’t work out for him in 2008, and there is no reason to believe it is in any better shape today. If he insists on sticking to the same message, or being “the” messenger, then perhaps he should peddle his ideas to a different constituency, perhaps to a third party. I don’t believe truly conservative Americans will follow him, now that there are other real conservative options.

    I have never questioned his patriotism, just his straddling of political ideologies. What seems obvious to me is that his stubbornness and ego have deflected any profound political advice offered to him, and as a result, he has lost supporters, not gained any. But I could be wrong.

    If he really believes in a conservative message, my advice to him would be to channel his efforts, by proxy, to another more robust, charismatic, personality that has the potential to lead America’s conservatives to a New Republican Party that is better able to frame the opposition as opportunistic ideologues, whose sole purpose is to maintain the status quo, despite what they say to the contrary. Making lives better does nothing for the Democrat Party except that it eliminates their base of support.

  2. #585533
    On January 7th, 2009 at 3:27 pm, Concerned Citizen said:

    On January 7th, 2009 at 2:07 pm, Bill Grant said:
    The Malkin MDS never stops… One day someone may pull back the curtain and see Howard Dean.

    Hey, maybe the brain trust can get McCain replaced with another Al Frankin. Perhaps we can get William Ayres to run against him… That ought to show what a uber conservative you are…

    I supported McCain because he was the most conservative choice available. I greatly fear what PEBO will do to the Supreme Court.

    However, McCain is no conservative, just more conservative than PEBO.

    Sorry, Bill. You walk alone on this one.

  3. #585536
    On January 7th, 2009 at 3:27 pm, Ed Mahmoud abu al-Kahoul said:

    I wish McCain no ill will, he served honorably as an attack jet pilot and a prisoner of the Communists, but he should retire to the hacienda when his term is up, play some golf, tend the garden, whatever.

    Just stay away from Republican politics.

    The silver lining on the 2006 and 2008 elections giving the Dems an effectively filibuster-proof Senate, is that most of the hard core RINOs (the worst was Lincoln Chaffee) have been shown the door. I count 5 or 6 RINO/GOP Lite/Country Club Conservatives now.

    Maybe Toomey or Santorum can challenge Specter in two years. I think there is enough patriotic Americans between Philly and Pittsburgh that state can still be saved. McCain can retire. The two Democrat in all but Caucus babes (”babes” is used loosely) in Maine, I’m afraid all of New England is too far gone for real Republicans.

    Hugh Hewitt, whom I often agree with, but not always, suggested Norm Coleman should be the RNC chair if Franken is indeed successful in stealing the Senate seat.

    Now, Coleman really isn’t a RINO, but he isn’t exactly a rock-ribbed conservative either, and even in Minnesota, if you can’t beat Al Franken by enough margin to prevent losing the seat to fraud, I don’t think you should be the face of the GOP out of power.

  4. #585538
    On January 7th, 2009 at 3:28 pm, WaterBoyz said:

    I bet that the mass mailing cost more than what he receives.
    Another item to add to the long list of RNC mis-steps mis-stakes F***-ups.

  5. #585540
    On January 7th, 2009 at 3:29 pm, MNUSMCDavid said:

    I sent an “unsubscribe” memo after I got his e-mail. I included these words, which I will use from now on at the end of my Posts…” Omnia relinquit sevare republicam”.. To Bill Grant, if I may say so, never again will moderation be a plank in the Conservative movement. Better to have the liberals in power under the light and falling on their collective swords then later have people of your ilk come to me to ask for help come election time.

    “Omnia relinquit sevare republicam”

  6. #585545
    On January 7th, 2009 at 3:31 pm, madchef said:

    Sorry John McRino, the pork laden TARP bill that you voted for STOLE all our money. Try asking your democrat friends.

  7. #585546
    On January 7th, 2009 at 3:32 pm, JHSII said:

    Liberals used to call Ronald Reagan an idiot all the time.

    Bill Grant:

    You read it wrong. Oh JohnnyD, don’t pay any attention to JHSII, he is an idiot.

    Thanks Bill for another favorable comparison wtih me and Ronald Reagan.

  8. #585551
    On January 7th, 2009 at 3:35 pm, behiker said:

    Please, someone make him go away.

  9. #585560
    On January 7th, 2009 at 3:37 pm, ArizonaNeanderthal said:

    Am I correct in guessing Juan Hernandez McCain will NOT be getting very many contributions, large or small, from the posters here?

    That arrogant little jerk just can not believe he is not worshiped. [I just got a call from the RNC-Told them no too]He calls millions of us names for opposing Amnesty, lies about it being Amnesty, tries to tell State Parties how to run their in house campaigns and then tells the whole country Obama would be as good as President as he would. Add Cap and Trade and this man is indeed in the wrong Party. He is Harry Reid Short.
    Perhaps he can become Ambassador to Viet Nam–it would get him out of Arizona.

  10. #585561
    On January 7th, 2009 at 3:37 pm, flenser said:

    The USA is in serious trouble and we are whittling away our options for addressing the problems that we are bringing on ourselves.

    The USA is in serious trouble because of idiots like you who put party before principle. In fact in all your endless postings here you have managed to never say what principles, if any, you have. And how you expect to go about enacting them.

    Why don’t you pry your sucker-like lips off McAmnestys behind for five seconds and try doing that now?

    What, if anything, do you believe in? How do propose to accomplish it?

  11. #585568
    On January 7th, 2009 at 3:39 pm, Desert Rat said:

    Uh, which country is talking about puting first? Because I live in Arizona and this worthless pos NEVER put’s the interests of the U.S. over the interests of Mexico . . .

  12. #585582
    On January 7th, 2009 at 3:50 pm, Oink said:

    Yep, received the same email. Deleted VERY quickly. He’ll be lucky to raise $5.

  13. #585583
    On January 7th, 2009 at 3:51 pm, JD in D.C. said:

    HA,HA,HA,HA!!!

    How about if we just send cash directly to the DNC, you liberal democrat McCain!

  14. #585587
    On January 7th, 2009 at 3:54 pm, Ed Mahmoud abu al-Kahoul said:

    I wish the RINO would have won. The difference between bronchitis and lung cancer, as I described it on one of these threads back in September.

    But he lost, and the very fact that he agreed with Obama on so many issues many people oppose, like open borders and amnesty, and global warming/carbon taxes, and his refusal to mention Obama’s two decade membership in an America hating church, meant he couldn’t do much comparing and contrasting on the issues.

    And when the MSM does a pretty good job playing down Obama’s extreme radicalism and ties, so the average person who doesn’t spend much time listening to Limbaugh or looking at conservative web sites, sees two guys that seem close in ideology, both critics of Bush, both supporters of increased regulations that blame greedy businessmen for the nations problems, and one is in his late 40s and portrayed as cool, the other in his 70s who comes off as cranky, well, no surprise Obama won.

  15. #585596
    On January 7th, 2009 at 4:00 pm, Fodder_Jack said:

    Huh? This wasn’t written in Spanish?
    But, John is missing the target audience that he fought hardest for.

  16. #585599
    On January 7th, 2009 at 4:02 pm, Misscheryl said:

    I used to get e-mails from McCain but I’ve since had them flagged as junk mail so they immediately go to the trash bin so as not to clutter up my inbox.

  17. #585609
    On January 7th, 2009 at 4:17 pm, fred5676 said:

    Anyone have that link to “Country Mexico First” ??

  18. #585612
    On January 7th, 2009 at 4:19 pm, Madam President said:

    Go crawl into a hole and stay there, McAmnesty.

  19. #585619
    On January 7th, 2009 at 4:23 pm, purealchemy said:

    I knew what I wanted to say but looks like everyone else said it for me.
    The irony is that, so far, Obama is acting more conservative than McCain, especially with the announcement of a budget watchdog who’s going to start with a focus detecting waste in Medicare and Social Security. Shouldn’t the donkeys be howling soon?

  20. #585623
    On January 7th, 2009 at 4:26 pm, Texhoma said:

    On January 7th, 2009 at 2:09 pm, Sly McNasty said:
    The truly cool thing about the Country First email is the link at the bottom that allows you to Unsubscribe.

    Spam offers that option and it only serves as a way to confirm your email address.

    When I saw this email was from the ‘Rino’ I immediately deleted it without reading it.

    The one thing McCain refuses to accept or understand is that very few voters voted for him. Most of the votes were either for Sarah Palin or a vote against Obama. Very few of voters voted for him.

  21. #585627
    On January 7th, 2009 at 4:28 pm, purealchemy said:

    On January 7th, 2009 at 2:08 pm, ThunderHawkk said:
    I still don’t understand how he even got the nomination! Okay, fine, he was heroic 40 years ago. But it was MADNESS to present a tottering, stammering, white-haired OLD man who doesn’t know how to use a COMPUTER against BO!

    He got it by default because Huckabee and Romney split the conservatives in the party. Then a bunch of dumb voters went to him at the last minute because they thought he could as a moderate.

  22. #585630
    On January 7th, 2009 at 4:29 pm, Ed Mahmoud abu al-Kahoul said:

    Very, very, very few.

    Every vote for McCain-Palin was a vote for Palin or a vote against the Obamunist.

  23. #585631
    On January 7th, 2009 at 4:29 pm, theoldpath said:

    Certainly you jest. When he says “Country First”, which country do you think he has in mind?

    Michelle, I agree with you, and putting America First, we will have to say NO THANKS!!

  24. #585637
    On January 7th, 2009 at 4:35 pm, Cathy B said:

    I don’t get emails from him anymore since I changed my party affiliation to
    Conservative…and if I do get one, I’ll be sure to tell how off…how I feel.

  25. #585645
    On January 7th, 2009 at 4:38 pm, Bill Grant said:

    On January 7th, 2009 at 3:27 pm, Concerned Citizen said:

    “I supported McCain because he was the most conservative choice available….Sorry, Bill. You walk alone on this one. “

    I would say that you and I are pretty much in agreement.

    MNUSMCDavid said:

    “Better to have the liberals in power under the light and falling on their collective swords then later have people of your ilk come to me to ask for help come election time.”

    My ilk? LOL. So…another “conservative” who thinks it’s “Better to have the liberals in power”. Gee, guess you don’t have anything to complain about.

    JHSII said:

    “Me too, I need approval, cliche, cliche, I have been duped because I am so mailable, cliche, cliche”

    No – one – compared – you – to – Reagan.

    flenser said:

    The USA is in serious trouble because of idiots like you who put party before principle.

    Sure it’s not because of leftist sock-puppets like you who troll right wing blogs to split the republicans and help elect democrats? Hey, flenser you don’t like Israel; shouldn’t you be posting about the glory of Hamas today?

  26. #585646
    On January 7th, 2009 at 4:38 pm, bballbob said:

    I’ll be sending him two pesos and asking him to spend them in his favorite country, which apparently is not the United States of America. Maybe he’ll forget his passport and have to stay there.

  27. #585648
    On January 7th, 2009 at 4:39 pm, Ed Mahmoud abu al-Kahoul said:

    He got it by default because Huckabee and Romney split the conservatives in the party. Then a bunch of dumb voters went to him at the last minute because they thought he could as a moderate.

    Neither Huck or Romney was Reaganesque conservatives, but they were a whole lot more conservative than McCain.

    Duncan Hunter and Tom Tancredo were the purist conservatives, and both were stalwart on border security, but Tancredo got tagged by the MSM as being too shrill on the issue, which would have made electability difficult in a country where the MSM is so biased.

    Hunter didn’t have the name recognition or the money. Thompson seemed pretty good, but the six month charade of “is he a candidate or not” made him lose momentum.

    And, of course, the front loaded “open primaries” where Dems and Independents could vote.

    Since Obama/Hillary was a horse race, not too many Dems voted in those GOP primaries, but plenty of independents did. Enough to give McCain early momentum while the more conservative candidates split the vote of the base.

    I saw a lot of people on threads back when it was obvious McCain would win blame the Republican Party, but other than the stupid open primaries, set by the state parties, not the national RNC, it wasn’t the Republicans who inflicted McCain on us so much as McCain had the good luck to be the sole obvious non-conservative in a race with several conservatives or pseudo-conservatives.

    It could be even worse in 2012, unless Obama is such an obvious disaster that he has a Dem challenger, the Dem primaries will not be contests, and not just independents, but lots of Democrats sent over by George Soros and his allies at KoS and DemocratUnderground will be voting in our primaries, and unless a clear conservative favorite emerges early so that there isn’t a multiple candidate horse race, than the Dems may well pick our candidate in 2012.

    If it even matters, when illegals are voting thanks to same day registration/voting, ID-less voting and other Democrat/ACORN reforms.

  28. #585649
    On January 7th, 2009 at 4:39 pm, purplepeep said:

    I believe in free market competition as much as most folks, but doesn’t McCain realize the market is already saturated with extremist liberal PACs? Why another one?

  29. #585650
    On January 7th, 2009 at 4:40 pm, chapoutier said:

    I disapprove of how both sides in this little mini-debate have become the leftist sock puppet.

    It makes us REAL leftists feel marginalized.

  30. #585652
    On January 7th, 2009 at 4:43 pm, purplepeep said:

    Ed Mahmoud abu al-Kahoul said:

    Neither Huck or Romney was Reaganesque conservatives, but they were a whole lot more conservative than McCain.

    Talk about “damning with faint praise”, Ed! (but correctly so.)

  31. #585660
    On January 7th, 2009 at 4:48 pm, JHSII said:

    JHSII said:

    “Me too, I need approval, cliche, cliche, I have been duped because I am so mailable, cliche, cliche”

    No – one – compared – you – to – Reagan.

    First, that isn’t what I posted. If you’re going to quote me, then you can actually quote me or else you prove everything I’ve said about you is true.

    The actual quote was this:

    Liberals used to call Ronald Reagan an idiot all the time.

    Bill Grant:

    You read it wrong. Oh JohnnyD, don’t pay any attention to JHSII, he is an idiot.

    Thanks Bill for another favorable comparison wtih me and Ronald Reagan.

    Second, YOU favorably compared me with Ronald Reagan. I pointed out exactly how you made the comparison.

    Respond to what is actually posted and people might start treating you as if you weren’t a liberal plant.

    Your choice.

  32. #585681
    On January 7th, 2009 at 4:58 pm, misterbee241 said:

    Hades will freeze over before I give’em a penny.

  33. #585684
    On January 7th, 2009 at 5:01 pm, Republicanvet said:

    If this old nitwit wanted money from us, perhaps he should have made an attempt at denouncing his own campaign from smearing Palin.

    Perhaps McCain/Feingold prevents me from donating. I just don’t want to risk it.

    Perhaps his fellow Gang of 14 would be willing to donate.

    Country First? Perhaps you should have thought of that 6 months ago so as to run a proper campaign against Urkel. Since you ran such a sorry campaign, it was obvious you wanted to put being Mr. Nice first.

    I donated to Colemans attempt to set things right. McCain deserves nothing.

  34. #585686
    On January 7th, 2009 at 5:01 pm, mngirl said:

    Wow, so many comments already.

    P.S. Country First will serve as a powerful voice for the American people. It will allow us to get our Republican message out….

    John McCain is not Republican, and he’s about to learn how very valuable Sarah Palin was to his fund raising effort. Very few people are going to send him $$$ to push amnesty.

  35. #585690
    On January 7th, 2009 at 5:03 pm, happyscrapper said:

    On January 7th, 2009 at 2:33 pm, scituate_tgr said:
    It’s obvious that we are all in agreement here – no money/support for McLame, RINO’s or the RNC. Until what happens? What organization/association IS the one to back and fund? Does anyone know or belong to a group that speaks conservative values and has the necessary infrastructure to make a dent and push agendas?

    I’ll be the first to help and contribute – just point!

    I belong to The Heritage Foundation and Rush Limbaugh endorses it. Great organization. Check it out.

  36. #585693
    On January 7th, 2009 at 5:05 pm, Jbgood said:

    I thought McCain said he wouldn’t take money from PAC’s. I could be mistaken.

  37. #585696
    On January 7th, 2009 at 5:08 pm, Republicanvet said:

    On January 7th, 2009 at 4:28 pm, purealchemy said:

    On January 7th, 2009 at 2:08 pm, ThunderHawkk said:
    I still don’t understand how he even got the nomination! Okay, fine, he was heroic 40 years ago. But it was MADNESS to present a tottering, stammering, white-haired OLD man who doesn’t know how to use a COMPUTER against BO!

    He got it by default because Huckabee and Romney split the conservatives in the party. Then a bunch of dumb voters went to him at the last minute because they thought he could as a moderate.

    Actually he got it by how the RINO buffoons in he RNC set up the primaries. By having several “moderate” states first, it guaranteed a limp-wristed nominee.

  38. #585703
    On January 7th, 2009 at 5:14 pm, Republicanvet said:

    On January 7th, 2009 at 4:58 pm, misterbee241 said:

    Hades will freeze over before I give’em a penny.

    My response?

    I don’t give to Democrats.

  39. #585708
    On January 7th, 2009 at 5:17 pm, conservativesRus said:

    I’ve read that letter several times today and I’m still not sure exactly what he wants to do other than collect money. There don’t appear to be any goals other than motherhood and apple pie.
    Those who send money demonstrate clearly the principle “a fool and his money are soon parted”.

  40. #585712
    On January 7th, 2009 at 5:19 pm, MTConservative said:

    McCain is crazy! I got his solicitation, too. I unsubscribed from his mailing list. I wouldn’t give him a thin dime.

  41. #585713
    On January 7th, 2009 at 5:20 pm, Republicanvet said:

    On January 7th, 2009 at 5:17 pm, conservativesRus said:

    Those who send money demonstrate clearly the principle “a fool and his money are soon parted”.

    Only to meet up with another fool.

  42. #585715
    On January 7th, 2009 at 5:21 pm, Weary Citizen said:

    LOL!!! Mccain sux and he always will suck. Be glad when he is out of office so I don’t have to hear him or fight him in yet another amnesty battle.

  43. #585723
    On January 7th, 2009 at 5:30 pm, happyscrapper said:

    On January 7th, 2009 at 2:48 pm, Bill Grant said:

    Just who the heck is this Bill Grant? I haven’t been on this blog long enough to have any experience with him other than his horrible comments about Minnesotans on another thread. But he sounds like an elitist snob. Am I taking him wrong? I assume he lives on one of the coasts and is perhaps a lawyer or a professor. Just curious…does anyone know?

  44. #585738
    On January 7th, 2009 at 5:48 pm, MBuck said:

    I have decided to launch a new grassroots organization called Country First.

    *I* am launching a grassroots?

    Huh?

  45. #585739
    On January 7th, 2009 at 5:49 pm, AlohaGuy said:

    I don’t have time for this today AlohaGuy so consider this the smiting… A poor substitute for Irish Rose Ill admit.

    Yeah, I’ve been busy for a couple of hours too. It was gentle ribbing – no offense meant! :)

  46. #585740
    On January 7th, 2009 at 5:50 pm, Republicanvet said:

    On January 7th, 2009 at 5:48 pm, MBuck said:

    I have decided to launch a new grassroots organization called Country First.

    *I* am launching a grassroots?

    Huh?

    Interesting isn’t it? If this nitwit had grassroots support, he would not now have to launch a grassroots organization.

  47. #585754
    On January 7th, 2009 at 6:16 pm, Jimmie said:

    ……and I will continue to consult with my GOOD and DEAR friends in the democratic party and at the new york times as how best to promote the republican party. This will insure that the republicans will always be the strongest minority party in the history of this great nation……

  48. #585759
    On January 7th, 2009 at 6:19 pm, Valiant said:

    No worries. McCain has shown he cannot even run his nose, much less a presidential campaign or lefty PAC.

    Happy trails, Maverick.

  49. #585761
    On January 7th, 2009 at 6:21 pm, purealchemy said:

    On January 7th, 2009 at 4:29 pm, Ed Mahmoud abu al-Kahoul said:
    Very, very, very few.

    Every vote for McCain-Palin was a vote for Palin or a vote against the Obamunist

    Point very well taken, sir!

  50. #585768
    On January 7th, 2009 at 6:29 pm, FamilyMan said:

    Your the old Republican party. We’re the new conservatives. I’ve already given to much on my tax bill, thanks to your party. Go beg somewhere else.
    GEES!

  51. #585769
    On January 7th, 2009 at 6:31 pm, Socky said:

    Actually, “Country First” has been the Bush-McCain motto for the last eight years. The country in question being Mexico.

  52. #585780
    On January 7th, 2009 at 6:54 pm, an-artist said:

    When I got this e-mail, I first responded and said there was only one reason for my two donations to the McCain campaign and that one reason was Sarah Palin. then, I unsubscribed. Suck it, John.

  53. #585786
    On January 7th, 2009 at 6:57 pm, MtsEdge said:

    Obama is acting more conservative than McCain, especially with the announcement of a budget watchdog who’s going to start with a focus detecting waste in Medicare and Social Security. Shouldn’t the donkeys be howling soon?

    I’ve observed that, too. I think Obama cleverly noticed and exploited the HUGE void in the debate which he filled with conservative-sounding rhetoric…e.g., “tax cuts for 95%”. He didn’t need to appeal to the lib base, b/c he had them already…so he cleaned up on the moderates and assuaged the consciences of conservatives by sounding like one of them. Brilliant strategy. Too bad for the US of A.

  54. #585797
    On January 7th, 2009 at 7:15 pm, JohnS said:

    I told them I never received my Obama’s Energy Plan tire gauge when I donated $25 in September! So I told him he could keep the tire gauge in lieu of my donation.

  55. #585803
    On January 7th, 2009 at 7:27 pm, Chief1942 said:

    Senility is a terrible thing to watch. So move away from the mirror, John.

  56. #585808
    On January 7th, 2009 at 7:34 pm, Kevin K. said:

    MNUSMCDavid (#102) said:

    “Omnia relinquit sevare republicam”

    Okay, my Latin’s not what it was, and my dictionary is too small to help.

    “All [subject] should abandon the [something, looks like an infinitive?] republican [singular, accusative case]“?

    Thanks.

  57. #585810
    On January 7th, 2009 at 7:37 pm, purplepeep said:

    happyscrapper said:
    Just who the heck is this Bill Grant? I haven’t been on this blog long enough to have any experience with him other than his horrible comments about Minnesotans on another thread. But he sounds like an elitist snob.

    Scrapper, Bill has a difficult time accepting that 1) McCain lost and 2) McCain lost because of McCain. Instead, Bill angrily blames evryone else.

    If it were me, I’d lick my wounds and then move on. C’est la vie.

  58. #585814
    On January 7th, 2009 at 7:40 pm, MNUSMCDavid said:

    It means: ” He relinquished everything for his republic”

    Omnia relinquit sevare republicam”

  59. #585817
    On January 7th, 2009 at 7:42 pm, purplepeep said:

    Kevin K. said:
    MNUSMCDavid (#102) said:

    “Omnia relinquit sevare republicam”
    Okay, my Latin’s not what it was, and my dictionary is too small to help.

    Kevin:

    He relinquished everything to save the Republic.

  60. #585818
    On January 7th, 2009 at 7:43 pm, Bill Grant said:

    JHSII said:

    First, that isn’t what I posted. If you’re going to quote me, then you can actually quote me or else you prove everything I’ve said about you is true.

    Idiot.

    “Thanks Bill for another favorable comparison wtih[sic] me and Ronald Reagan.”

    Idiot.

    “Second, YOU favorably compared me with Ronald Reagan. “

    Liar.

  61. #585819
    On January 7th, 2009 at 7:43 pm, purplepeep said:

    MNUSMCDavid said:
    It means: ” He relinquished everything for his republic”

    Omnia relinquit sevare republicam”

    You beat me to the ’splanition by 2 mins, David. Great Minnesota minds work alike!

  62. #585820
    On January 7th, 2009 at 7:44 pm, figgles said:

    Yea, I got the email. I couldn’t believe my eyes. I summarily chucked it. He leads nothing.

  63. #585823
    On January 7th, 2009 at 7:51 pm, Bill Grant said:

    happyscrapper said:

    Just who the heck is this Bill Grant?

    He is the guy who is starting to see why your husband spends all winter in a shed scratching his icehole.

    “I assume he lives on one of the coasts and is perhaps a lawyer or a professor.”

    I would tell you but it took me almost 4 solid years to lose the last crazy girl from Minnesota who found out where I live. :-P

  64. #585830
    On January 7th, 2009 at 7:54 pm, By Choice said:

    Got my email too…….delete

  65. #585834
    On January 7th, 2009 at 7:55 pm, JHSII said:

    Bill Grant:

    JHSII said:

    First, that isn’t what I posted. If you’re going to quote me, then you can actually quote me or else you prove everything I’ve said about you is true.

    Idiot.

    Another favorable comparison between me and Ronald Reagan.

    “Thanks Bill for another favorable comparison wtih[sic] me and Ronald Reagan.”

    Idiot.

    Another changing of what I posted listed again as a “quote”.
    Of course, you follow that with a repeat of your favorable comparison of me with Ronald Reagan.

    “Second, YOU favorably compared me with Ronald Reagan.”

    Liar.

    Are you now saying that liberals never called Reagan an idiot?

  66. #585842
    On January 7th, 2009 at 8:01 pm, Bill Grant said:

    On January 7th, 2009 at 7:37 pm, purplepeep said:

    If it were me, I’d lick my wounds and then move on.

    Peep, we are now talking about trillion dollar defects for at least the next 4 years. We are now talking about (probably permanently) altering the country in ways that are fundamentally opposed to what has enabled us to become the greatest country in human history. Sorry, I can’t look at the news without being “angry” and we haven’t even gotten started with the Obama administration. Yet the opposition is as divided as ever and working overtime to lose the next election as well. C’est la vie isn’t going to leave a lot left to hand to the next generation.

  67. #585851
    On January 7th, 2009 at 8:07 pm, Bill Grant said:

    JHSII said:

    Another favorable comparison between me and Ronald Reagan.

    That is a lie. You are an idiot, he was not. You demonstrate that you are an idiot every time you post.

    “Another changing of what I posted listed again as a “quote”.”

    Another lie, it was cut and paste. All anyone has to do to verify that is tilt their head up and read your effluence.

    “Are you now saying that liberals never called Reagan an idiot?”

    Whether or not they did or they did not is irrelevant to you being an idiot. Idiot.

  68. #585853
    On January 7th, 2009 at 8:08 pm, purealchemy said:

    On January 7th, 2009 at 4:39 pm, Ed Mahmoud abu al-Kahoul said:
    He got it by default because Huckabee and Romney split the conservatives in the party. Then a bunch of dumb voters went to him at the last minute because they thought he could as a moderate.

    Neither Huck nor Romney are Reaganesque conservatives, but they were a whole lot more conservative than McCain.

    Ditto on that but
    the conservative base had to take the best thing available.

    Duncan Hunter and Tom Tancredo were the purist conservatives, and both were stalwart on border security,

    Ann Coulter’s choice was Hunter. He didn’t have charisma, didn’t have the wherewhital to inspire.
    Tancredo ended up looking like a one-issue candidate, plus same deficiencies as Hunter.

    but Tancredo got tagged by the MSM as being too shrill on the issue, which would have made electability difficult in a country where the MSM is so biased.

    No, wasn’t MSM. It was the charisma/inspirational factor.

    Hunter didn’t have the name recognition or the money. Thompson seemed pretty good, but the six month charade of “is he a candidate or not” made him lose momentum.

    Thompson had same problem. No sizzle, just steak. Unfortunately, you have to sell the product.

    And, of course, the front loaded “open primaries” where Dems and Independents could vote.

    I should have remembered that. That was a killer.

    Since Obama/Hillary was a horse race, not too many Dems voted in those GOP primaries, but plenty of independents did. Enough to give McCain early momentum while the more conservative candidates split the vote of the base.

    Could be, but how will we ever know?

    I saw a lot of people on threads back when it was obvious McCain would win blame the Republican Party, but other than the stupid open primaries, set by the state parties, not the national RNC, it wasn’t the Republicans who inflicted McCain on us so much as McCain had the good luck to be the sole obvious non-conservative in a race with several conservatives or pseudo-conservatives.

    Think you’ve hit the nail on the head here. Default.

    It could be even worse in 2012, unless Obama is such an obvious disaster that he has a Dem challenger, the Dem primaries will not be contests, and not just independents, but lots of Democrats sent over by George Soros and his allies at KoS and DemocratUnderground will be voting in our primaries, and unless a clear conservative favorite emerges early so that there isn’t a multiple candidate horse race, than the Dems may well pick our candidate in 2012.

    Republican Party has to go through big generational adjustment. My initial fear was McCain would be another Dole.
    Reminder to self: trust your instincts.

    If it even matters, when illegals are voting thanks to same day registration/voting, ID-less voting and other Democrat/ACORN reforms.

    God, I wish someone would expose all that. WAY overdue.

  69. #585858
    On January 7th, 2009 at 8:13 pm, purealchemy said:

    On January 7th, 2009 at 4:39 pm, purplepeep said:
    I believe in free market competition as much as most folks, but doesn’t McCain realize the market is already saturated with extremist liberal PACs? Why another one?

    Please! None of us here can waste even a crumb of time, money, emotion, energy, thought, etc. on McCain.
    Let him go.

  70. #585860
    On January 7th, 2009 at 8:19 pm, JHSII said:

    Bill Grant:

    JHSII said:

    Another favorable comparison between me and Ronald Reagan.

    That is a lie. You are an idiot, he was not. You demonstrate that you are an idiot every time you post.

    And now Bill starts to get long-winded in his attacks. Calling me an idiot mirrors exactly what the left did to Ronald Reagan. I’m in good company there.

    It is not a lie. I have demonstrated that it is not a lie. Your hatred of me and other Conservatives is getting in the way again, Bill.

    “Another changing of what I posted listed again as a “quote”.”

    Another lie, it was cut and paste. All anyone has to do to verify that is tilt their head up and read your effluence.

    Anyone who reads my post themselves will note that I never put “[sic]” anywhere in my post. That means it was edited. Changed. That means it’s another lie by Bill.

    “Are you now saying that liberals never called Reagan an idiot?”

    Whether or not they did or they did not is irrelevant to you being an idiot. Idiot.

    Actually it’s very relevant because it proves that you’re the liar.

    Don’t try to dig any deeper, Bill. You can’t get out of the hole that you’ve dug for yourself that way.

  71. #585862
    On January 7th, 2009 at 8:20 pm, Kevin K. said:

    MNUSMCDavid and purplepeep–thank you. Back to Latin class for me! (I know it has been a couple of decades since my last class, but I should have gotten closer.)

    As long as I’ve confessed to ignorance in reading Latin, is this sentence a famous quote about someone that I should have learned? Plutarch about someone?

  72. #585868
    On January 7th, 2009 at 8:23 pm, JHSII said:

    I think John McCain has grassroots confused with astroturfing.

  73. #585870
    On January 7th, 2009 at 8:26 pm, purplepeep said:

    Bill Grant said:
    Peep, we are now talking about trillion dollar defects for at least the next 4 years.

    With McCain it might have been double that figure. On September 24 of last year he co-issued a pro-bailout statement of solidarity with Obama. Six of one half, dozen of the pther – “We were screwed ‘08″.

  74. #585877
    On January 7th, 2009 at 8:33 pm, purealchemy said:

    On January 7th, 2009 at 6:57 pm, MtsEdge said:
    Obama is acting more conservative than McCain, especially with the announcement of a budget watchdog who’s going to start with a focus detecting waste in Medicare and Social Security. Shouldn’t the donkeys be howling soon?
    I’ve observed that, too. I think Obama cleverly noticed and exploited the HUGE void in the debate which he filled with conservative-sounding rhetoric…e.g., “tax cuts for 95%”. He didn’t need to appeal to the lib base, b/c he had them already…so he cleaned up on the moderates and assuaged the consciences of conservatives by sounding like one of them. Brilliant strategy. Too bad for the US of A

    Thank you. Everyone’s been trying to figure out who Obama really is, including me.
    I see a pattern with him. In the early primaries, he played to white voters because he knew blacks wouldn’t vote for him if he wasn’t a viable candidate with whites. When he got whites duped, he shifted to playing to the black vote. Then he saw that McCain was lame and all he had to do was coast to the finish, especially with convenient near end economic downturn.
    When he accepted the presidential win in Chicago, he said his next job was to win over the 47% or 48% who didn’t vote for him. He’s done a damn good job of that with his cabinet picks and not speaking out against Hamas.
    My best guess about who he really is at this juncture is he’s a highly perceptive biped who has duped the left and the right so he can fulfill his latent ego need to be a president. His main concern is to figure out which past president to model after so he can be a historically memorable president.

  75. #585886
    On January 7th, 2009 at 8:40 pm, JHSII said:

    I haven’t seen any Conservatism out of Obama.
    The so-called “budget watchdog” is just another one of those agencies or commissions that will have no power whatsoever and the only purpose of which is to have him be able to say “I appointed this guy, therefore I did something about the problem.”

    Remeber that Obama is part and parcel of the corrupt Chicago political machine. They’ve now went national.

    Don’t fall for it.

  76. #585891
    On January 7th, 2009 at 8:47 pm, Rogue Cheddar said:

    Today, I am asking you to join Country First to continue fighting for the worthy cause of revitalizing both our democracy and our Party.

    This is a representative republic, you putz, not a democracy!
    No soup for you! And none for your derelict party either!

  77. #585893
    On January 7th, 2009 at 8:48 pm, purealchemy said:

    “All the gentlemen here understand both the pressures and possibilities of this office. For me to have the opportunity to get advice, good counsel and fellowship with these individuals is extraordinary.”

    He wasn’t kidding about valuing transparency. He knows he’s a weakling..
    Previously he said being in the Oval Office would be “cool”. For God’s sake, don’t we need a grown-up for our leader?
    Physically and more.
    Why do you think he is obsessed with working out? To make up for his personal insecurity, his doubt of his own strength.

    He didn’t have a father figure growing up.
    He didn’t get the strength you should inherit from a father.
    Frankly, I’d feel more secure if all the past living president camped out with him at the White House.
    I think he invited all the past Presidents for that reason.

  78. #585895
    On January 7th, 2009 at 8:53 pm, akoypinoy said:

    Got the same email and send the same response – No thanks and hit unsubscribe.

  79. #585900
    On January 7th, 2009 at 9:02 pm, Bill Grant said:

    Great, this is the point in the program where JHSII acts like bubblegum on your shoe…not posting anything that is remotely relevant, confusing getting the last word with something valuable to contribute. “Tag, you’re it, no back-sies.” Grow up.
    JHSII said:

    Calling me an idiot mirrors exactly what the left did to Ronald Reagan.

    I guess they missed teaching you about false logical syllogisms in your group home.

    “It is not a lie. I have demonstrated that it is not a lie. “

    Your idiocy has divorced you from reality. (Too long winded?)

    “Your hatred of me and other Conservatives is getting in the way again,”

    That is yet another lie. You are not big enough to hate. You are not a conservative and I do not hate conservatives. Indeed, I am a genuine conservative.

    “Anyone who reads my post themselves will note that I never put “[sic]” anywhere in my post. That means it was edited. “

    Here’s another lesson that will be wasted on you. [sic] indicates that the said word was reproduced “has been reproduced verbatim from the quoted original and is not a transcription error.” In other words I did not edit what you wrote, idiot, I indicated that I was reproducing your illiterate nonsense mistakes and all.

    “Actually it’s very relevant because it proves that you’re the liar.”

    If I am a liar then you can cut and paste the quote where I compared you “favorably” to Ronald Reagan. Have at it. Here’s a hint; Calling you an idiot isn’t what you will need. Anything short of an actual favorable comparison demonstrates that you are what I have said you are.

  80. #585901
    On January 7th, 2009 at 9:04 pm, purealchemy said:

    On January 7th, 2009 at 8:40 pm, JHSII said:
    I haven’t seen any Conservatism out of Obama.

    Correct. Nothing solid has hit the ground. Long way there.

    The so-called “budget watchdog” is just another one of those agencies or commissions that will have no power whatsoever and the only purpose of which is to have him be able to say “I appointed this guy, therefore I did something about the problem.”

    I understand that suspicion but Obama is a unique dude. We need to watch him.

    Remeber that Obama is part and parcel of the corrupt Chicago political machine. They’ve now went national.

    Don’t fall for it

    He has infected own whole country with Chicago politics with the Blago/Burris theater.
    AIDS on a patritoic scale.

  81. #585903
    On January 7th, 2009 at 9:06 pm, Bill Grant said:

    On January 7th, 2009 at 8:26 pm, purplepeep said:

    With McCain it might have been double that figure.

    We might have had Bigfoot crawl out of Graceland and preach scientology with Tom Cruz. Probably not though. McCain was a defect hawk and he promised a balanced budget by the end of his first term.

  82. #585906
    On January 7th, 2009 at 9:08 pm, JHSII said:

    And Bill now starts to prove my points again about him being a liar and a troll by continually attacking me with every or nearly every post he makes.

    Same old Bill.

    Troll level: 10.00
    Credibility level: 0.00

    I wonder if he’ll stay up all night attacking me like just he did the last time?

  83. #585910
    On January 7th, 2009 at 9:18 pm, Bill Grant said:

    On January 7th, 2009 at 9:08 pm, JHSII said:

    And Bill now starts to prove my points again about him being a liar and a troll by continually attacking me with every or nearly every post he makes.

    You are just desperate for attention. It’s sad. If I am a liar then you can cut and paste the quote where I compared you “favorably” to Ronald Reagan. Have at it.

    “I wonder if he’ll stay up all night attacking me like just he did the last time?”

    Another lie. Either way, the answer is no.

  84. #585912
    On January 7th, 2009 at 9:25 pm, JHSII said:

    More proof that I’m right about Bill. Just after I post that he’s going to stay up all night attacking me just like he did before – he posts yet another attack. It only took him ten minutes.

    Then he says that my pointing out that he’s a liar and a troll is my psychologicalprojection. Sorry Bill, but posting a fact isn’t projection.

    As far as his challenge that I cut and paste the quote where he compared me favorably with Ronald Reagan, fine. Here’s the direct, unedited quote:

    Idiot.

    Now, as liberals called Ronald Reagan an idiot all the time, and Bill keeps calling me that – that makes it a favorable direct comparison.

    Now, can Bill control himself and not attack me agin in any followup to this post?

  85. #585914
    On January 7th, 2009 at 9:27 pm, NC BLUE said:

    McCain got his a$$ handed to him with Sarah Palin on the ticket. It would have been worse than Custer’s last stand without her. This guy is a loser and dissed the conservatives and now wants to rerun the same old losing strategy. Adios Amigo—vaya con el diablo. Hope you can achieve your dream on $17.99–which is about what you will raise. Centrist BS!!

  86. #585916
    On January 7th, 2009 at 9:29 pm, happyscrapper said:

    O.K. I have now figured out who the heck Bill Grant is. He is a confused little man who likes to bicker and can’t ever let anything go. He is rude, sarcastic, and likes to argue for the sake of arguing. He can’t stand anyone thinking he might be wrong, so he just keeps harping. Bill Grant may be somewhat on the conservative side, but he is still a troll. And why is everyone wasting so much time on him? I know debate can be fun, but he doesn’t debate, he argues with a stubborness that borders on paranoia. I am now done with my psychoanalysis.

  87. #585917
    On January 7th, 2009 at 9:32 pm, purplepeep said:

    Bill Grant said:
    McCain was a defect hawk and he promised a balanced budget by the end of his first term.

    I believe you meant “deficit”, Bill, though “defect” better sums up McCain. You’ve found a candidate who makes grandiose campaign promises – that’s such a rarity, y’know.

  88. #585918
    On January 7th, 2009 at 9:32 pm, purplepeep said:

    Bill Grant said:
    McCain was a defect hawk and he promised a balanced budget by the end of his first term.

    I believe you meant “deficit”, Bill, though “defect” better sums up McCain. You’ve found a candidate who makes grandiose campaign promises – that’s such a rarity, y’know.

  89. #585920
    On January 7th, 2009 at 9:33 pm, JHSII said:

    happyscrapper – Yep, that just about sums it up.
    Bill also believes that by attackiing Conservatives he can bring them around to his cause. Don’t even try to figure that one out.

  90. #585921
    On January 7th, 2009 at 9:34 pm, purplepeep said:

    Oops, time to restart the browser. Gotta do that when I get double posts.

  91. #585922
    On January 7th, 2009 at 9:34 pm, purplepeep said:

    Oops, time to restart the browser. Gotta do that when I get double posts.

  92. #585924
    On January 7th, 2009 at 9:40 pm, MtsEdge said:

    he’s a highly perceptive biped who has duped the left and the right so he can fulfill his latent ego need to be a president. His main concern is to figure out which past president to model after so he can be a historically memorable president.

    Good point. I keep remembering that commercial, “It’s all about the O.” In this case, it’s his ego that’s driving the train, not his ideology. Look out, though, we are in for some real twists and turns.

    On January 7th, 2009 at 8:40 pm, JHSII said:
    I haven’t seen any Conservatism out of Obama.

    Agreed…once again, he’s pandering to those who would rather not think too hard about what his words really mean.

  93. #585926
    On January 7th, 2009 at 9:43 pm, MtsEdge said:

    Bill, I beg to differ about McCain’s rep as a “deficit hawk”…he BLEW IT on the $700B bailout…yes, he wasted his ENTIRE rep on that single moment when the country was waiting for him to do the right thing. So now, his final legacy will be as one of those bobblehead dogs that sits in the window of a ‘64 Chevy.

  94. #585928
    On January 7th, 2009 at 9:45 pm, JHSII said:

    MtsEdge:

    Good point. I keep remembering that commercial, “It’s all about the O.”

    Sabine Ehrenfeld!!

    I wonder whatever happened to her?

  95. #585931
    On January 7th, 2009 at 9:47 pm, Elm Creek Smith said:

    Hell, no!

    No on immigration “reform.”

    No on closing the “gun show loophole.”

    No to someone who lied to the NRA.

    Not.One.Red.Cent.

    ECS

  96. #585932
    On January 7th, 2009 at 9:50 pm, MtsEdge said:

    JHSII, apparently she has her own fan page. I’m not familiar with who she is, I do remember the commercial though. It started playing in my mind a few years back WRT Oprah, but now of course it fits another O. :)

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