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		<title>By: RetFireman</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2009/01/08/we-dont-know-why-we-do-it-but-we-will-never-stop-because-islam-and-our-elders-require-it/comment-page-3/#comment-587988</link>
		<dc:creator>RetFireman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jan 2009 03:57:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Female Genital Mutilation is the term used for removal of all or just part of the external parts of the female genitalia. There are three varieties to this procedure.

   1. Sunna Circumcision - consists of the removal of the prepuce(retractable fold of skin, or hood) and /or the tip of the clitoris. Sunna in Arabic means &quot;tradition&quot;.
   2. Clitoridectomy - consists of the removal of the entire clitoris (prepuce and glands) and the removal of the adjacent labia.
   3. Infibulation(pharonic circumcision)-- consists of performing a clitoridectomy (removal of all or part of the labia minora, the labia majora). This is then stitched up allowing a small hole to remain open to allow for urine and menstrual blood to flow through&lt;/blockquote&gt;Now, this may be difficult for the old pubscout to understand, but when a male undergoes a circumcison, there is no other part of the penis removed EXCEPT for a small portion of the foreskin.  This removal of this piece of skin DOES NOT in any way deter from the feel or function of the penis.  It does not keep the man from pleasure, does not keep him from urinating etc.

As I have just posted the official definition of what Female Genital Mutilation is, if you cannot see the VAST difference in the two, or why the practice of FGM is barbaric and in no way necessary, then you are indeed as stupid and agenda driven as all the previous posters have stated.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Female Genital Mutilation is the term used for removal of all or just part of the external parts of the female genitalia. There are three varieties to this procedure.</p>
<p>   1. Sunna Circumcision &#8211; consists of the removal of the prepuce(retractable fold of skin, or hood) and /or the tip of the clitoris. Sunna in Arabic means &#8220;tradition&#8221;.<br />
   2. Clitoridectomy &#8211; consists of the removal of the entire clitoris (prepuce and glands) and the removal of the adjacent labia.<br />
   3. Infibulation(pharonic circumcision)&#8211; consists of performing a clitoridectomy (removal of all or part of the labia minora, the labia majora). This is then stitched up allowing a small hole to remain open to allow for urine and menstrual blood to flow through</p></blockquote>
<p>Now, this may be difficult for the old pubscout to understand, but when a male undergoes a circumcison, there is no other part of the penis removed EXCEPT for a small portion of the foreskin.  This removal of this piece of skin DOES NOT in any way deter from the feel or function of the penis.  It does not keep the man from pleasure, does not keep him from urinating etc.</p>
<p>As I have just posted the official definition of what Female Genital Mutilation is, if you cannot see the VAST difference in the two, or why the practice of FGM is barbaric and in no way necessary, then you are indeed as stupid and agenda driven as all the previous posters have stated.</p>
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		<title>By: frostrt</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2009/01/08/we-dont-know-why-we-do-it-but-we-will-never-stop-because-islam-and-our-elders-require-it/comment-page-3/#comment-587583</link>
		<dc:creator>frostrt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 18:42:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And, yes, of course it was wrong to castrate young boys to keep their voices from changing as they got older.  That, you see, was the equivalent for boys of FGM. 

Circumsision, we&#039;re arguing, is not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And, yes, of course it was wrong to castrate young boys to keep their voices from changing as they got older.  That, you see, was the equivalent for boys of FGM. </p>
<p>Circumsision, we&#8217;re arguing, is not.</p>
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		<title>By: frostrt</title>
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		<dc:creator>frostrt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 17:28:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pubscout:

So, if it is determined that someone&#039;s appendix needs to be removed for the sake of their health (or even life), it should not be because &quot;God put it there&quot;?  

I know, we could argue back and forth about whether or not circumsision has any real health or well-being benefits for males, although there have been some pretty persuasive arguments that it does.  

There is no room for argument, however, that girls who undergo FGM (for the 10th time) have problems related to sex, childbirth, menstruation, and even going to the bathroom for the rest of their lives.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pubscout:</p>
<p>So, if it is determined that someone&#8217;s appendix needs to be removed for the sake of their health (or even life), it should not be because &#8220;God put it there&#8221;?  </p>
<p>I know, we could argue back and forth about whether or not circumsision has any real health or well-being benefits for males, although there have been some pretty persuasive arguments that it does.  </p>
<p>There is no room for argument, however, that girls who undergo FGM (for the 10th time) have problems related to sex, childbirth, menstruation, and even going to the bathroom for the rest of their lives.</p>
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		<title>By: pubscout</title>
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		<dc:creator>pubscout</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 17:13:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh. You mean like the forced castration of choirboys by the Church through the Middle Ages to preserve their angelic voices?

My response was to the essence of matty&#039;s post which was that God put it there; therefore He intended them to have it.

Dude. Mutilation of the genitalia is mutilation of the genitalia. If you&#039;re going to condemn it, be consistent.

Seems to me our disagreement lies in the fact that you only see FGM as mutilation where I see both as such.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh. You mean like the forced castration of choirboys by the Church through the Middle Ages to preserve their angelic voices?</p>
<p>My response was to the essence of matty&#8217;s post which was that God put it there; therefore He intended them to have it.</p>
<p>Dude. Mutilation of the genitalia is mutilation of the genitalia. If you&#8217;re going to condemn it, be consistent.</p>
<p>Seems to me our disagreement lies in the fact that you only see FGM as mutilation where I see both as such.</p>
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		<title>By: frostrt</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2009/01/08/we-dont-know-why-we-do-it-but-we-will-never-stop-because-islam-and-our-elders-require-it/comment-page-3/#comment-587284</link>
		<dc:creator>frostrt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 15:15:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On January 9th, 2009 at 8:43 am, pubscout said: 
mattymatt10

“I haven’t read all the comments so apologies if this is a repeat. But if Allah gave women a clitoris, it would stand to reason he wants them to have it.”

But the same logic doesn’t apply to a male foreskin?

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As Karmi just pointed out, try to think of FGM as the equivalent of castration for a male.  Then you might understand the difference we&#039;ve been trying to explain.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On January 9th, 2009 at 8:43 am, pubscout said:<br />
mattymatt10</p>
<p>“I haven’t read all the comments so apologies if this is a repeat. But if Allah gave women a clitoris, it would stand to reason he wants them to have it.”</p>
<p>But the same logic doesn’t apply to a male foreskin?</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;</p>
<p>As Karmi just pointed out, try to think of FGM as the equivalent of castration for a male.  Then you might understand the difference we&#8217;ve been trying to explain.</p>
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		<title>By: Karmi</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2009/01/08/we-dont-know-why-we-do-it-but-we-will-never-stop-because-islam-and-our-elders-require-it/comment-page-3/#comment-587233</link>
		<dc:creator>Karmi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 14:39:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;But the same logic doesn’t apply to a male foreskin?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

No. It would be like cutting the penis HEAD off...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>But the same logic doesn’t apply to a male foreskin?</p></blockquote>
<p>No. It would be like cutting the penis HEAD off&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: pubscout</title>
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		<dc:creator>pubscout</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 13:43:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>mattymatt10

&quot;I haven’t read all the comments so apologies if this is a repeat. But if Allah gave women a clitoris, it would stand to reason he wants them to have it.&quot;

But the same logic doesn&#039;t apply to a male foreskin?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>mattymatt10</p>
<p>&#8220;I haven’t read all the comments so apologies if this is a repeat. But if Allah gave women a clitoris, it would stand to reason he wants them to have it.&#8221;</p>
<p>But the same logic doesn&#8217;t apply to a male foreskin?</p>
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		<title>By: Target Rich Environment &#187; Blog Archive &#187; The Cost Of Interfaith Tolerance</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2009/01/08/we-dont-know-why-we-do-it-but-we-will-never-stop-because-islam-and-our-elders-require-it/comment-page-3/#comment-587054</link>
		<dc:creator>Target Rich Environment &#187; Blog Archive &#187; The Cost Of Interfaith Tolerance</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 03:28:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] speaking of women in Islam, Michelle Malkin linked to a horrifying photo essay of girls who&#8217;d been tricked into going to a [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] speaking of women in Islam, Michelle Malkin linked to a horrifying photo essay of girls who&#8217;d been tricked into going to a [...]</p>
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		<title>By: John Deaux</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2009/01/08/we-dont-know-why-we-do-it-but-we-will-never-stop-because-islam-and-our-elders-require-it/comment-page-3/#comment-586978</link>
		<dc:creator>John Deaux</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 01:06:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;On January 8th, 2009 at 8:01 pm, MtsEdge said: 
&lt;blockquote&gt;How could anybody take pictures of that?&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Says a lot for the Washington Post, doesn’t it?&lt;/blockquote&gt;Nothing we didn&#039;t already know.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>On January 8th, 2009 at 8:01 pm, MtsEdge said: </p>
<blockquote><p>How could anybody take pictures of that?</p></blockquote>
<p>Says a lot for the Washington Post, doesn’t it?</p></blockquote>
<p>Nothing we didn&#8217;t already know.</p>
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		<title>By: MtsEdge</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2009/01/08/we-dont-know-why-we-do-it-but-we-will-never-stop-because-islam-and-our-elders-require-it/comment-page-3/#comment-586974</link>
		<dc:creator>MtsEdge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 01:01:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;How could anybody take pictures of that?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Says a lot for the Washington Post, doesn&#039;t it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>How could anybody take pictures of that?</p></blockquote>
<p>Says a lot for the Washington Post, doesn&#8217;t it?</p>
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		<title>By: John Deaux</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2009/01/08/we-dont-know-why-we-do-it-but-we-will-never-stop-because-islam-and-our-elders-require-it/comment-page-3/#comment-586956</link>
		<dc:creator>John Deaux</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 00:39:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I couldn&#039;t finish that slideshow. How exactly are we supposed to reason with people that do this to their own children?

How could anybody take pictures of that?

I suspect that one of our posters is correct that there will be no peace as long as Islam is a religion being practiced.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I couldn&#8217;t finish that slideshow. How exactly are we supposed to reason with people that do this to their own children?</p>
<p>How could anybody take pictures of that?</p>
<p>I suspect that one of our posters is correct that there will be no peace as long as Islam is a religion being practiced.</p>
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		<title>By: Wellsy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wellsy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2009 22:16:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wish I hadn&#039;t watched that. If your heart isn&#039;t wrenched by the smile on young Sheelan&#039;s face in her joy at being at what she thinks is a party, then you&#039;re a despicable human being. That mother isn&#039;t a mother - no one lies to their kid to inflict pain on them without knowing why. It&#039;s disgusting and barbaric, and it&#039;s trying to worm its way into this country as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wish I hadn&#8217;t watched that. If your heart isn&#8217;t wrenched by the smile on young Sheelan&#8217;s face in her joy at being at what she thinks is a party, then you&#8217;re a despicable human being. That mother isn&#8217;t a mother &#8211; no one lies to their kid to inflict pain on them without knowing why. It&#8217;s disgusting and barbaric, and it&#8217;s trying to worm its way into this country as well.</p>
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		<title>By: BelchSpeak &#187; Post Topic &#187; Islam Means Mysogyny: Uncovered Meat Raped. Family Uses Razor to Perform Abortion</title>
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		<dc:creator>BelchSpeak &#187; Post Topic &#187; Islam Means Mysogyny: Uncovered Meat Raped. Family Uses Razor to Perform Abortion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2009 22:10:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] religion you have there. Michelle Malkin ran a story today about tricking a 7 year old girl into having her female organs cut off by telling her she was going [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] religion you have there. Michelle Malkin ran a story today about tricking a 7 year old girl into having her female organs cut off by telling her she was going [...]</p>
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		<title>By: frostrt</title>
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		<dc:creator>frostrt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2009 20:22:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>mattymatt &amp; MtsEdge:

I didn&#039;t watch, either.  Couldn&#039;t.

It&#039;s enough to know that this horror happens.  And, of course, to speak - scream, if necessary - out against it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>mattymatt &amp; MtsEdge:</p>
<p>I didn&#8217;t watch, either.  Couldn&#8217;t.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s enough to know that this horror happens.  And, of course, to speak &#8211; scream, if necessary &#8211; out against it.</p>
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		<title>By: MtsEdge</title>
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		<dc:creator>MtsEdge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2009 20:17:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;No need for me to see the slideshow. Some things are just wrong; one doesn’t need to see graphic evidence to know so.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

mattymatt, my thoughts exactly.  I couldn&#039;t bring myself to see the horror and agony that little girl went through.  To me, it would be like staring fixated at the mangled corpses from a train wreck.

Wrong is wrong.  God save our children.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>No need for me to see the slideshow. Some things are just wrong; one doesn’t need to see graphic evidence to know so.</p></blockquote>
<p>mattymatt, my thoughts exactly.  I couldn&#8217;t bring myself to see the horror and agony that little girl went through.  To me, it would be like staring fixated at the mangled corpses from a train wreck.</p>
<p>Wrong is wrong.  God save our children.</p>
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