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1. #588358
   On January 11th, 2009 at 12:03 pm, cactusjoe said:

   Well, reporters cannot tell a truth from a lie…so I can see the confusion.

2. #588359
   On January 11th, 2009 at 12:03 pm, backwoods conservative said:

   So which is he supposed to be biased towards, airplanes or helicopters?

   Frankly, I’m biased towards airplanes. I think they give you a better chance of making a safe landing after engine failure.

3. #588360
   On January 11th, 2009 at 12:04 pm, SCTeacher said:

   At least if JtP screws up, he’ll have an excuse. What is that guy’s excuse? They didn’t teach him the difference between military aircraft in his journalism classes? Maybe he should have studied up on his subject before attempting to report on it.

4. #588371
   On January 11th, 2009 at 12:08 pm, Jvette said:

   Pathetic.

   What PjTV wants is some real perspective.

   All that crap about being able to do this or that or knowing this or that is really just biased reporters’ excuses for their bias. What they fear is Joe exposing them for what they are.

5. #588372
   On January 11th, 2009 at 12:09 pm, Mixer14 said:

   With that kind of knowledge base, one can expect those learned all-knowing and wise ‘journalists’ to look up at the sky when some one yells “Hey! Look at the dead pigeons!’

6. #588389
   On January 11th, 2009 at 12:31 pm, Bruce said:

   Every time I see a so-called “journalist” exhibit such remarkable proof of idiocy, I am reminded of the brilliant French blogger “Dissident Frogman” and a video he created named “Shooty – NO shooty! Savvy?”
   Take the link – it’s briiillliant!

7. #588404
   On January 11th, 2009 at 12:51 pm, wise_man said:

   I loved that video, Bruce.

8. #588406
   On January 11th, 2009 at 12:51 pm, zorro said:

   Man, that was embarrassing.

   99.9% of the MSM reporters are an embarrassment to our Country.

   At least Joe the Plumber will bring a small town main street perspective to his reporting. Not the usual inside the beltway or upper East side drivel we have suffered through these so many years.

9. #588419
   On January 11th, 2009 at 1:12 pm, rightisright said:

   Bruce that was funny, and mostly true with todays reporters, ooops, excuse, todays fiction writers. Thanx, I needed a good laugh this morning.

10. #588426
    On January 11th, 2009 at 1:33 pm, Christian Soldier said:

    Joe WILL be able to tell an helicopter from a plane…
    GO JOE!!!We’re here for ‘ya’….
    C-CS

11. #588431
    On January 11th, 2009 at 1:41 pm, Boomer said:

    Joe surely couldn’t do any worse than the trained idiots in the less than professional MSM. I have a feeling we can trust he will be able to tell the difference between a fixed wing aircraft and one of those contraptions that glides like a rock if the rotary thing on top quits working. The ignorance of the so called expert journalist on military equipment is staggering.

    ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒE (mo-lone lah-veh) Translation: Come and take them!

12. #588449
    On January 11th, 2009 at 2:08 pm, rocketman said:

    Sarah Palin was also trashed by the Left Wing Media. I think she and Joe the Reporter do much better jobs than the liberal hacks we get in the “MSM” are “capable” of doing.
    ***
    John Bibb

13. #588464
    On January 11th, 2009 at 2:35 pm, thefoundingfathers said:

    Sometines the folks without the tunnel vision googles see much more than just their agenda. I hope Joe doesn’t have an agenda. Godspeed Joe and stay safe.

14. #588467
    On January 11th, 2009 at 2:38 pm, Christian Soldier said:

    Boomer #11 –:-)
    C-Cs

15. #588477
    On January 11th, 2009 at 2:58 pm, torabora said:

    You might not be able to see Russia from Palin’s porch, but you can see Hell in Gaza.

    Be careful Joe.

16. #588481
    On January 11th, 2009 at 3:04 pm, KCK said:

    Overheard on NBC radio: “Operation Cast Lede,” rather than “Cast Lead,” the actual name. Ignoramus.

17. #588495
    On January 11th, 2009 at 3:48 pm, ArizonaNeanderthal said:

    that Middle East reporters frequently arrive in the region with no frame of reference and/or obscene biases.

    Gee, what was his first clue? Could we go back to the God Of Broadcast Edward R. Marrow and then Huntley-Brinkley, and that bastion of integrity Walter Cronkite? This current Crop of Clowns learned from the best-or worst- your choice.

    I do believe I would trust an honest plumber-certified or not-over a “trained professional”. I guess there is no truth to the rumor I started that Katie Couric was going to Gaza and show them how to do a colonospocy.

18. #588503
    On January 11th, 2009 at 4:17 pm, torabora said:

    I once knew this gal from Ar Kansas that referred to them as whirley bird thangs.

    Too funni!

19. #588509
    On January 11th, 2009 at 4:34 pm, TooMuchTime said:

    In 1992 MTV’s Tabitha Soren interviewed presidential candidate Bill Clinton. When she asked him who his favorite musician was, he replied Thelonious Monk which caused her to ask, “Who is the loneliest monk?”

    This was from a person that worked for a MUSIC-based television station!

    Jazz music tends to be very niche-oriented, and many may not know who Thelonious Monk is. However, this is typical of the “journalists” turned out by today’s “institutions of higher learning.” BARF!

20. #588510
    On January 11th, 2009 at 4:36 pm, love2rumba said:

    These Joe-critical reporters remind me of my well-to-do cousins on Queen Anne hill in Seattle:

    I remember after I had made a Cristmas dinner with Wild Snow Geese as the entre my cousin Joe -fresh from Seattle University B-School- asked “do you hunt Geese with a Rifle?”…upon which I had to restrain my incredulity and answer with “no” and add “that it would be both illegal and dangerous for me to do so”.

    I’m still working with them on their understanding with guns-at least they open-minded about it as Democrats go….I sometimes feel like a missionary in very pagan country on this issue (of guns) when I’m in that part of Washington State (Seattle)…

    Joe Wurzlbacher may just surprise us -and them particularly-with a talent not revealed before.

21. #588519
    On January 11th, 2009 at 5:05 pm, fred5676 said:

    What can we expect??

    The national TV anchorpeople schools teach that all light aircraft are either a Piper Cub or possibly a Cessna. Many municipal airports use a logo of a jet aircraft to mark the local 2500 ft. landing strip.

    The ignorance (and unwillingness to do even a trifling bit of research upon the occasional need to do it) of the MSM about aviation in general, and military aviation specifically, is astounding.

    However, do I sympathize with any reporter trying to comprehend any craft staying in the air by means of some whirlygig contraption.

22. #588521
    On January 11th, 2009 at 5:18 pm, Stillwaiting said:

    Apache??? Is that some sort of new-fangled autogyro or gyroplane??? lol

    These are the same type of top-quality, professional reporters who fretted that Palin was carrying her “rifle” in an unsafe manner.

    How do you deal with people who are too smug and close-minded to escape their own ignorance???

23. #588528
    On January 11th, 2009 at 5:36 pm, Cogs said:

    I think journalists even surpass lawyers in arrogance and narcissism.

24. #588538
    On January 11th, 2009 at 6:03 pm, madmonkphotog said:

    I look forward to reports from Joe. They can’t be any worse than listening to Wolf Blitzer drool over democrats.

25. #588543
    On January 11th, 2009 at 6:13 pm, Member-VRWC said:

    On January 11th, 2009 at 12:08 pm, Jvette said:
    What they fear is Joe exposing them for what they are.

    With one question during the campaign, JTP already exposed them for what they are: Butt-kissers For Barack.

    Hey, liberal media crapweasels: Got ChapStick?

26. #588550
    On January 11th, 2009 at 6:40 pm, Papa Louie said:

    Overhead, Israeli Apaches were firing rockets at Hezbollah positions. One of the reporters looked up and asked, “Is that an airplane or a helicopter?” Man, that was embarrassing.

    But it’s not nearly as embarrassing as Rathergate and all those “journalists” at CBS not knowing the difference between an old-fashioned typewriter and a modern word processor even after the differences were pointed out to them. This fell well within their supposed area of expertise.

27. #588554
    On January 11th, 2009 at 7:03 pm, Socky said:

    Yup, that’s the Emperor’s wang, all right.

28. #588564
    On January 11th, 2009 at 7:38 pm, Tennessee Dave said:

    “Is that an airplane or a helicopter?”

    I’m reminded of that story that appeared in a newspaper in 2007 about more people getting carry permits.
    From Confereate Yankee:

    Creative Gun Reporting
    Somehow, I just don’t believe that the reporter who wrote this San Mateo County Times story, Christine Morente, was actually there (h/t Michelle Malkin):

    KIMBERLY SHRUM grips a Smith & Wesson .357 Magnum revolver and aims at a target 25 yards away. Bang.
    A hot shell casing hits the floor, joining hundreds of others littering the concrete at Jackson Arms Indoor Shooting Range in South San Francisco.

    Just to point out the obvious to the oblivious, the scenario described above simply cannot happen.

    Morente stated Shrum is firing a Smith & Wesson .357 Magnum revolver. Shell casings remain in the chamber of a revolver until manually removed by the shooter; they cannot as Morente described “hit the floor” as a result of pulling the trigger. The automatic ejection of a fired shell is physically impossible with revolvers.

    These is basic firearm design fact not open to discussion. What does appear to be open for discussion is whether or not Morente was actually at the Jackson Arms Shooting Range with Shrum as her article implies.

    If a reporter can’t tell the difference betwen a revolver and a semi-automatic pistol, they they don’t have a chance with a helicoptor and a fixed-wing airplane.

    A short story:
    My commander used to be a heavy airlift pilot and due to health reasons was disqualified from flying. He then worked as a supply officer and then became a comm commander. Since coming to communications he has taken up photography and is pretty good. He did my wedding.
    Last year a recruiter set up a photo shoot to get pictures of one of our planes flying over Memphis and a police helicoptor from which the pictures would be taken.
    Our unit photographer was sick that week and the recruiter asked out commander to take the pictures. Now let me tell you, fixed wing pilots don’t trust those devices where the wings turn in circles overhead and he was none too excited about going up in that contraption. Actually, but admission, he was down right terrified. That’s rare for a pilot or ex-pilot to ever do.
    He agreed to do the shoot. On the appointed day he went up, took the shots and came back safely. The next day I asked how he liked it. He can’t wait to do it again.

29. #588569
    On January 11th, 2009 at 8:06 pm, Kevin K. said:

    If the “journalists” can’t tell the difference between a helicopter and an airplane, then they can’t give useful information to the enemy.

    Well, one can hope, anyway.

30. #588576
    On January 11th, 2009 at 8:34 pm, Dimsdale said:

    On January 11th, 2009 at 8:06 pm, Kevin K. said:

    If the “journalists” can’t tell the difference between a helicopter and an airplane, then they can’t give useful information to the enemy.

    Well, one can hope, anyway.

    But sadly, as the history of the NYTimes has shown, they are hell bent on giving away anything they can get to the enemy under the guise of doing it “for the people.”

31. #588611
    On January 11th, 2009 at 11:19 pm, Charly Martel said:

    Thanks for the link Bruce. I haven’t spent so much time at a site (except this one)in months. Now time to put in some practice with my boomstick.

32. #588612
    On January 11th, 2009 at 11:32 pm, DaveC said:

    During the DC Sniper shootings, our friend, Katie Couric asked a firearms expert about the 223 casing.

    I remember her asking him that:

    (paraphrasing a bit) these bullets are especially dangerous because they spin, right?

    The expert, much nicer than I would have, explained painfully slowly:

    Umm, Katie, all bullets spin when they leave the barrel..

33. #588706
    On January 12th, 2009 at 7:53 am, tre said:

    One of the reporters looked up and asked, “Is that an airplane or a helicopter?”

    I have a question for that reporter.

    Are you an idiot or a moron?

34. #588730
    On January 12th, 2009 at 8:52 am, CrazyFool said:

    One of the reporters looked up and asked, “Is that an airplane or a helicopter?”

    Was anyone able to answer him?

    Was it the right answer?

    From the above shooty / no shooty link at Dissident Frogman:

    This is where the real shocker lies: for even if we assume that they could be honest and unbiased, if these Great Professionals™ who make their trade and pride of reporting on worldwide crises — that are bound to involve, more often than not, individual weaponry of various make and caliber — can’t even tell the difference between a bullet and a cartridge, can you just imagine what else — and how much — they ignore?

35. #588812
    On January 12th, 2009 at 10:48 am, Bruce said:

    these bullets are especially dangerous because they spin, right?

    I’d bet she got that from some amateur remnant from VN. Another old wives tale (like a .45 will “break your wrist”) that said an M-16 round “tumbles” and therefore results in a devastating wound.

    Clue #1 … while dimensionally almost identical, the military 5.56 Nato round and the civilian .223 round are NOT the same.

    Clue #2 … neither round tumbles in flight (a round accurate out to 600 meters “tumbles”?).

    Whatever the case … as usual – Perky is incorrect.

36. #588919
    On January 12th, 2009 at 12:10 pm, Mooseman said:

    Is one of the qualification to being a reporter being able to fog a mirror? It seems this is the only qualification many of them have.

37. #589235
    On January 12th, 2009 at 5:20 pm, Elm Creek Smith said:

    The 5.56mm diameter bullet weighing 50 grains does tumble after it hits the target, provided velocity is not too high but is still high enough*, causing devastating wounds. The new heavier bullets, 62-77 grains, don’t tumble as violently.

    ECS

    *(At close range, the 50 grain bullets are through the target before tumbling can start.)

38. #589525
    On January 13th, 2009 at 1:38 am, Bruce said:

    The 5.56mm diameter bullet weighing 50 grains does tumble after it hits the target, provided velocity is not too high but is still high enough*, causing devastating wounds. The new heavier bullets, 62-77 grains, don’t tumble as violently.

    Bravo Sierra. ANY bullet CAN tumble after it strikes the target, but NONE do it IN FLIGHT – which is what the ridiculous story first proposed. And they don’t “tumble” completely as you propose. That suggests they go end over end, which is absolutely NOT the case.