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1. #589157
   On January 12th, 2009 at 4:28 pm, Southpaw said:

   On January 12th, 2009 at 3:37 pm, happyscrapper said:

   Just curious…what is your point of this post? Are we supposed to stop all mining, drilling, etc. so someone’s view is undisturbed? Just wondering.

   Here is my point. Why would both Senators from Idaho, Wyoming and Utah, (three of the most conservative states in the country) vote for this Bill? MM calls them yellow for doing this without even giving any details of the bill.

   I see it differently. If Liberals wanted to dam every river and stream in Utah, Wyoming and Idaho so they can send the water and power to support ten million more illegal aliens in California, their Republican cronies om Capitol Hill, Wall Street and K Street will go along if there is a fast buck to be made.

   Summitville is a financial and ecological disaster dumped on the backs of the American taxpayers in the name of profit. I am a conservative, but NOT A REPUBLICAN. Why? Because I’ve seen too many instances where Republicans go along with bad policy while espousing free markets and deregulation. If you believe in those policies, then I have some shares of Bear Stearns that I’d like to sell y’all.

   On January 12th, 2009 at 3:49 pm, MNUSMCDavid said:
   Southpaw

   Interesting that one photo is from 1999 and possibly the others reflect existing conditions that may be improved upon in the future. In any case, those photos are not evidence of a callous disregard for the environment at this moment in time, so nice try. BTW, I believe the Earth is ours to use. Good stewardship of course, but it’s ours to use. There’s a reason they’re called natural resources. If we don’t use the assets in the earth, what good are they…..

   I’m for development of natural resources, (including drilling in ANWAR), but not at the expense of reckless destruction of the environment.

2. #589184
   On January 12th, 2009 at 4:44 pm, happyscrapper said:

   On January 12th, 2009 at 4:28 pm, Southpaw said:

   Your point is well taken, and I agree! We just need to make sure we don’t put such tough restrictions on everything that nothing can be done…like the restrictions Obama wants to put on mining that will bankrupt the coal industry (his own words).

3. #589206
   On January 12th, 2009 at 4:57 pm, Southpaw said:

   I agree with Michelle Malkin about 98% of the time. This time I just got a little ruffled because she criticized some conservative Republicans without giving any specifics of the bill. Just playing a little devils’ advocate.

   BTW, agree Minnesota is a beautiful state. On one of my journeys I stopped at the state park where the headwaters of the Mississippi River begins. There is a little wooden bridge at the spot where the pond drains into the stream and the water begins the long journey to the Gulf of Mexico. There wasn’t anyone around so I took my shoes off and dangled my feet in the water because…well…it just seemed like the right thing to do.

4. #589228
   On January 12th, 2009 at 5:08 pm, Elm Creek Smith said:

   R without principles = Dem.

   No, it’s much worse than that. R without principles = traitor.

   How do we go about setting up a Constitutionalist/Conservative Party for the rest of us?

   ECS

5. #589248
   On January 12th, 2009 at 5:31 pm, happyscrapper said:

   On January 12th, 2009 at 4:57 pm, Southpaw said:

   How could anyone NOT put their feet in the water up there at Itasca State Park?? I did it too, many years ago when I visited. I think it is really neat that I have been in the water at the source of the Mississippi and also have gone swimming in the Gulf of Mexico where it empties out. Thanks for the compliment about our State. I guess that is one area where I get a bit miffed when someone criticizes something without a rational reason. But then, no one ever said Bill Grant was rational. I hope he is not related to our most beloved Vikings coach of all time…Bud Grant! Wouldn’t that be a kick in his teeth!

6. #589275
   On January 12th, 2009 at 6:04 pm, Southpaw said:

   How could anyone NOT put their feet in the water up there at Itasca State Park?? I did it too, many years ago when I visited. I think it is really neat that I have been in the water at the source of the Mississippi and also have gone swimming in the Gulf of Mexico where it empties out.

   Live life. Do things. Smile along the way.

7. #589301
   On January 12th, 2009 at 6:49 pm, MtsEdge said:

   On January 12th, 2009 at 5:08 pm, Elm Creek Smith said:
   R without principles = Dem.
   No, it’s much worse than that. R without principles = traitor.

   How do we go about setting up a Constitutionalist/Conservative Party for the rest of us?

   ECS

   ECS, I’m with you. I mentioned on another thread that my Mom finally is in the process of changing her political affiliation from Dem to Rep. I don’t know if all this Obamamania was just too much for her, but she usually votes R anyway.

   Problem is, it’s too late. The Rs are now what the Dems were 50 years ago, when she first started voting.

   I’m ready to bail on the Rs, but I don’t want to run “away” from something, I’d rather run “to” something, if you know what I mean.

8. #589341
   On January 12th, 2009 at 7:56 pm, Bill Grant said:

   On January 12th, 2009 at 3:17 pm, Socky said:

   Yeah, condescending pricks like Bill Grant really make me want to work hard to elect his kind of Republican.

   I doubt that there is anything out there that could get an honest days work out of you for any cause. Regardless, you can’t challenge what I wrote, maybe you want the democrats to be in charge.

   happyscrapper said:

   “yada, yada, yada… smiling at how lucky I am to live in this beautiful land of 10,000 (currently frozen) lakes, I have to wonder…what has caused your intense hatred of the State of Minnesota.”

   You elect nincompoops. You elect professional wrestlers. You elect islamists. Islamists! Shortly after 9/11. You elect al goddamn frankin… Put down your cocoa and go see if you can help your son-in-law get un-Re-educated.

   Could you give me a real reason, since you said previously you have never been here?”

   I have never written that I haven’t been there. Flat, cold, moonbats, islamists… It’s all yours.

9. #589347
   On January 12th, 2009 at 8:04 pm, Bill Grant said:

   So.. no takers on the draft Michelle Malkin to run in her state on the “conservative” party slate and see if she wins idea. It’s a whole lot easier to flush the GOP and use someone like Olympia Snowe as an excuse… Even if it means selling out the best chance of pushing the principals you supposedly advocate. Nothing will push the country left faster than the conservatives making themselves irrelevant.

10. #589401
    On January 12th, 2009 at 10:16 pm, rightisright said:

    Bastards one and all.

11. #589405
    On January 12th, 2009 at 10:24 pm, happyscrapper said:

    I have never written that I haven’t been there. Flat, cold, moonbats, islamists… It’s all yours.

    Bill…I do recall you saying you had never been in Minnesota. But, no big deal. If you choose to judge an entire state and all its people by the politics of that state, then you must also hate California, New York, Oregon, Washington State, etc. etc. Must be pretty sad to hate that much. I pity you. Don’t bother replying. I’m done discussing this with you. Good night.

12. #589466
    On January 13th, 2009 at 12:04 am, Bill Grant said:

    On January 12th, 2009 at 10:24 pm, happyscrapper said:

    Bill…I do recall you saying you had never been in Minnesota.

    Post a link. It isn’t true. I have even seen Minnesotans in their natural habitat. (In the mall food court, chewing with their mouths open.)

    If you choose to judge an entire state and all its people by the politics of that state, then you must also hate California, New York, Oregon, Washington State, etc. etc

    Which one of them elected Jesse the body as Governor?

    “. Must be pretty sad to hate that much.”

    The only thing sadder would be the one person the Minnesota chamber of commerce taking to the internet to defend the tundra state every time an outsider who escaped without being carried away by the mosquito swarm relates his or her experiences there.

    “Don’t bother replying.”

    It’s no bother: Minnesota sucks.

    “I’m done discussing this with you”

    Great, We’re done. Thanks again for Al Frankin… and Prince… and that always amusing Garrison Keillor… and your collapsing bridges… Heck, even Vermont makes good maple syrup.

13. #589543
    On January 13th, 2009 at 3:33 am, Jean said:

    If the party keeps agreeing with Democrats especially on key issues… Ill be sure soon to stop calling myself Republican.

    Im a Conservative. I want the borders sealed. I want a Strong Military. I want a Cultural melting pot ie. National language – English. I want no government touching of The 1st and 2nd Amendment. I want The US Constitution upheld.

14. #589741
    On January 13th, 2009 at 10:53 am, MNUSMCDavid said:

    Hmmm, seems like bill grant and percy peabody are one and same.

15. #589804
    On January 13th, 2009 at 11:40 am, Socky said:

    I think this picture sums up what I think of Bill Grant’s posts. There’s no real principle to them, just attacks on those who won’t blindly vote for his team for the sake of his team winning.

16. #589859
    On January 13th, 2009 at 12:28 pm, Bill Grant said:

    On January 13th, 2009 at 10:53 am, MNUSMCDavid said:

    Hmmm, seems like bill grant and percy peabody are one and same.

    I have only posted under Bill Grant here.

    On January 13th, 2009 at 11:40 am, Socky said:

    “I think this picture sums up what I think of Bill Grant’s posts”

    Gee, teenage girl text-message speak…. No wonder you can’t understand what I wrote. Here, Imagine a “haz” and a “Lol” or 2…

    We live in a country in which different states/regions have different political makeup’s. Someone who could get elected in Alaska or Georgia wouldn’t stand much of a chance of getting elected in hellholes lovely, appealing places that snowback scandi normal people would want to live in like Minnesota or Vermont. What to do?

    1) Change the population of the state in question to something more accommodating to your personal belief structure. (Best solution, but takes a long time and a few huge screw-up’s can undermine the whole thing.)
    2) Force the states that elect people you don’t like to secede.
    3) Impotently shake your fist on the internet and pat yourself on the back for being pure as the driven snow and turn people off to the last, tenuous thing standing between a bunch of traitorous scumbags and total control of the USA.

    Democracy is a numbers game. If you have 2 liberals, 4 center left voters, 6 center right voters and 2 conservatives the conservatives will have more of an effect on the direction of government than the liberals because the center right and occasionally the center left will agree. If you are out to purge the party of the center right voters you are going to have 1 super duper uber conservative who has no say compared to the 0 center right, 11 center left and 2 liberal voters who are now in the drivers seat and doing their best to consolidate their power.

    Some of these Republicans are truly lousy. Semi-competent cowards. So what’s the solution? Replace them with zombie Goldwater of course! Well here’s the thing; the genuine, competent, smart and articulate conservatives seem to be few and far between and even if we had a few and the money to back them they couldn’t get elected in certain areas because these areas are populated with idiots people who may disagree with me. (Like Minnesota nowhere in particular.) What’s the other solution? Replace them with democrats? Even the worst RINO’s caucused with the republicans and enabled them to chair committee’s and chose what gets debated and what dies without being heard simply and for no other reason other than the “r” at the end of their name. That gave the real “R”s a punch that was outside their weight class.

    I propose a solution that everybody except 1 person will agree to: Draft Michelle Malkin to run in her state on the “conservative” party slate and see if she wins. Seriously. With all of you sending in your piggy banks (and in some cases bits of string and seashells crack pipes and food stamps) you just might be able to elect the “perfect” candidate. House of representatives or even the senate, heck; Utopia here we come! A chicken in every pot and a boot in everyone’s ass! hissy in every fit.

    But if she doesn’t win, if the people in wherever decide that this is not what they want you might have to accept that in human relations and democracies you have to elect the best you can and then keep at them in order to make yourself heard. Or… You could just go about calling every republican a RINO and replacing them with democrats.