61
61.
That’s the number of jihadi recidivists who returned to their terror-waging ways after being released from Gitmo.
Go ahead and leave your bets on what the number will be a year after Barack Obama takes office.
The Pentagon said on Tuesday that 61 former detainees from its military prison at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, appear to have returned to terrorism since their release from custody.
Pentagon spokesman Geoff Morrell said 18 former detainees are confirmed and 43 suspected of “returning to the fight.”
He said the figures, updated at the end of December, showed a higher rate of recidivism than seen in a previous report showing 37 former detainees as active militants.
He provided no details about the detainees or their countries of origin.
“The overall known terrorist re-engagement rate has increased to 11 percent” from about 7 percent, Morrell said.
The numbers were generated by the Pentagon’s Defense Intelligence Agency based on fingerprints, photographs and intelligence reports, he said.
President-elect Barack Obama, who takes office on Tuesday, is expected to issue an executive order to close the Guantanamo Bay prison, possibly within his first week in office.
About 255 men are still held at the U.S.-run naval base in Cuba, a symbol of aggressive interrogation methods that exposed the United States to allegations of torture.
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61 + 255 = 316
my guess.
Ron Richardson: Yeah? Are you gonna make it all 220?
Jack Butler: Yeah. 220… 221, whatever it takes.
Recidivists among mufsidun fighting hirabah? (I call them by their rightful names)
I concur with sonofdy. Dittos, Son!
This new terrorist recruiting tool will bring in hundreds if not thousands of new terrorists.
It’s like catch-and-release in the illegal immigration issue. Once they know they can get away with it…
By the way, does anyone know how much of the Obama infrastructure spending plan is going to prisons?
I’m just sayin’
Let them all go. It will be easer and faster to kill them on the battlefield.
“61″ jihadi terrorist??
Oh thank God. I thought that was the number of Democratic senators.
That would be far more dangerous.
Whew!
They’ll be so grateful to ‘The Imam’… er, I mean ‘Chosen One’ that they’ll repent their terrorist ways and join us in our new Utopian worldwide love-fest (you know, kind of like the Iranians who cheered on the election of BHO… oops! Didn’t they just burn his image in effigy? My bad).
No problem, this just sends a message to our combat troops, take no prisoners.
WOW, Appear to have returned…Suspected of …What next? I’m shocked, and appalled…
vickisoup – counting the RINO’s there are a lot more than 61
Return them to their home country and, stop worrying…Yhey rank down there with child molesters because they failed. Their buddys also think they squealed. Let’s second THAT emotion.
Harry Reid says he is VERY confident of the Obama plan.
Anyone want to bet how long it takes for a lib to get on here and say that it was Gitmo that actually turned them into terrorists?
All the more reason to buy ammo and stock up on emergency supplies.
You know, I’ll bet in a lot of cases, it was these poor soul’s experience in Gitmo that turned them against the US and made them terrorists.
Actually, the Dems ARE more dangerous, with the RINOs in the Senate who are likely more often than not help the Dems achieve their veto proof majority on much upcoming legislation.
At least the 61 released from gitmo will be softer now and hopefully easier to kill in the field.
The only good terrorist, is a dead terrorist. I hope we are all in agreement.
Why were they released in the first place? Was it possible that they were not terrorist to begin with, and just got caught being in the wrong place at the wrong time? And, after being released they then became terrorists?
As for PE Obama’s plans, they include adjudication of the detaineed individuals. There is no reason to not have tried these people after being held for seven years.
redpeach:
2 minutes.
Yep – just out hunting pheasants I’ll bet.
Great one, Vicki…
Generally speaking, I believe recidivism has been on the rise since we started making “advances on human rights” in prisons. Having the basics of human rights (TVs, custom meals, constant lawsuits, literature…) has done a lot for the general prison population.
Gee, a direct correlation in making the punishments lighter would lead to an increase in the number of repeat offenders. Who’d of thunk?
Maybe we need to re-open the Yuma Territorial Prison (or is that too old school?)
I’ll go with that number as well.
There is only one solution to this category of recidivism. One strike and you’re dead. Period.
No years waiting for a court/panel/group/tribunal to charge you with a crime. No public disclosure of national security secrets. No money wasted housing, feeding , and guarding these pathetic excuses for human beings. No hand-wringing, nor soul-searching for bleeding heart liberals to put themselves through.
Dispatch these animals with extreme prejudice…they have nothing to offer humanity but hate, despair, and death.
Actually, we had a troll here not too long ago that was stating that none of the released Gitmo detainees had returned to terrorism.
If there was ever a lib I’d like sit and have a beer with, it’s you. I swear your wit is getting sharper by the day.
HERE ARE THE REAL TERRORIST.
36 have been accused of spousal abuse
7 have been arrested for fraud
19 have been accused of writing bad checks
117 have directly or indirectly bankrupted at least 2 businesses.
3 have done time for assault
71 , repeat 71 cannot get a credit card due to bad credit
14 have been arrested on drug-related charges
8 have been arrested for shoplifting
21 currently are defendants in lawsuits,
and
84 have been arrested for drunk driving in the last year
Can you guess which organization this is?
Give up yet?
It’s the 535 members of the
United States Congress
The same group of Idiots that crank out
hundreds of new laws each year
designed to keep the rest of us in line.
I say we let them out and put them on a plane with a parachute and have them bailout at about 3000 feet over the Atlatic Ocean after about an hour flight. Maybe they will finally get their 72 virgins. This is one bailout I could agree with. /sarc off
How long before someone says forget about the parachute?
I’ll bet that “I’LL BET” doesn’t hold up in court.
I think 61 Phlegm ‘n Crap Senators could do more damage.
This link has a little bit more information.
From that article:
Sounds sort of like Chap speaking there.
I think I’ll trust these guys more.
You know, I’ll bet in thousands and thousands of cases, it was these ‘poor soul’s experience’ in liberal colleges that turned them against the US…each and every day.
*I’ll go with the 316 + however many held overseas by the CIA are ultimately let go, thanks to Leon Panetta.
*Another safe bet, although I am reluctant to say so, is that PEBO’s ill-advised actions will lead to the deaths of hundreds of Americans over the next 4 years.
*And it is better than even money that Hillary will out perform Condi in letting Israel twist in the wind; Her allegiance is with Bubba and his money train coming out of Saudi Arabia et al; You can’t even know what smart power is when you are stuck on stupid.
When you get exhausted terrorizing, Rush has already rightly pointed out you can R&R at Club Gitmo. Heal up your war wounds, get your teeth fixed, eat healthy halal meals, get your prayer rug thing on without fear of being hunted down and shot dead. When the time is right, do-gooder liberal Americans will see to it that you get released and you can get back to the business of killing Americans.
What a country!
Send them to San Francisco Pelosi
Send them to Nevada Reid
Send them to Boston Barney Frank and Kennedy/Kerry
Send them to Chicago Obvious
Send them to New York Shumer and Clinton
With just a little bit of LUV and understanding, someone to talk to, I am sure the above mentioned touch feely types can rehabilitate these wayward lads.
Well what did you expect them to do after you put panties on their heads, join the Peace Corps?! Poor little misunderstood jihadists. Hey, I know what! Let’s call them sea kittens, so that we’ll be nicer to them!
thefoundingfathers….are you referring to the US Congress or Gitmo terrorists?
Congresscritters aren’t terrorists – but the majority of them are terrorist enablers.
When I found about this today at work on the local Air Force Base several of us had a quiet discussion about what this policy was going to do to the safety of our Military personnel and country in general. Needless to say the career NCOs I was talking with are not impressed and we are afraid this novice is going to get a lot of people killed by these medieval savages.
ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒE (mo-lone lah-veh) Translation: Come and take them!
Let’s give them some good ole-fashioned liberal rehab-
These full credit courses will be mandatory, and none of them will ever dare mention torture again!
The first week they should be sent to Rosie O’Donnells School for the Gay Jihadist’s in Structural Engineering and Fire Theory, followed by a week of Al Gores Overeating and Carbonizing for the 21st Century Jihadists, and after a week of “Jihading to the Oldies” with Richard Simmons their lawyers will be suing our government to reopen GITMO!
The Pentagon report underscores the reason why these unlawful combatants, like prisoners of war, should not be released until the war on terror is over.
I think only half the people here realized I was kidding.
WRT this report, I would be curious to see it. Someone cited a group saying that one only has to speak out against the US to get included. I don’t know about this report but on a similar one I saw some months ago, this was absolutely true. One person was included because he wrote an article criticizing his detention.
I am sure such examples do not account for all the cases. However…well I’m just saying I would really like to see the details.
But no doubt Obama must make sure no one dangerous is released, whether that take 100 days or 1000, kossacks opinions notwithstanding.
John Deaux,
I’ll buy.
RETURNED????How on earth can that be? It was my understanding that they were NOT terrorists. After all, all the Liberals have been going on and on about how the poor, innocent civilians illegally detained by our fascist government were nothing more than minding their own business when those jack-booted thugs known as the U.S. Military snatched them from their homes and off the street and tortured them and kept them in squallor and horrid arrangements, keeping them from the rights given to U.S. citizens and so forth.
How could someone who was innocent, who was not a terrorist to begin with, return to being something they were not?
Highly suspect, if you ask me. Seems that the Dictator, Bush, just wants to further smear the names of these gentle people, keeping them from the peaceful freedom that practicing Islam brings.
I’m guessing Zero.
I’m positive that the Obama administration will realize that these people did their time, paid their debt to society and are truly sorry for being bad.
Any terrorist activities in the future will just be youthful exuberance and celebrating the joy of being free with several hundred pounds of high explosives.
We don’t even know the half of it. Once they shut down Gitmo, they’ll be paying reparations to former detainees, illegal aliens, jihadists.
That was one of his campaign promises: Reparations for everyone !
Prisons do not deter crime, they cause it. Give me a break, I know for a fact that prisons deter crime in Mexico, but don’t seem to do a good enough job for the United States, why is that i suppose? Our justice system is a joke and that seems to have seeped into the Military justice system. I will be happy when our soldiers realize…no more prisoners, it is not worth the headache.
Being bad? How? they were just innocent victims of one man’s attempt to look good in his daddy’s eyes. A mad man at that, bent on global domination. So much so that he would launch an attack on his own country to give himself an excuse to invade and attack an innocent country that did not pose a threat to anyone and who was simply minding it’s own business.
When…when, oh Lord, will people learn that these people belong to a Religion of Peace? When will they stop persecuting them simply because they look different, speak differently and do not would rather live their own way and resist the Imperialist intentions of this godless country.
After all…there is no “terrorist threat” and the only real terrorist will be replaced in a week…pending his enacting Martial Law and declaring himself “President for Life” as so many Liberals have told us over the last 8 years.
Only if you’ll let me get the second round. If you ever find yourself in South Florida, let me know.
O, and before the Libs take umbrage with the claim they predicted he would refuse to leave and declare himself “President for Life”, I offer this, this, and this as evidence.
I am no liberal and I am not chap but I live in So. FL. Click on the moniker and contact me if you would like to get to gether and make fun of chap! We can drink a couple of zombies in his honor!
Oh, thank goodness. I was one of the others – LOL!
I say turn ‘em loose in Hollywood and the Upper West Side. They deserve it.
chapoutier said:
I didn’t think you were going to let an opportunity like that go by untaken.
ya want to win this war on terror, then fight like the terrorists do…kill the bastards…it’s a war of survival, don’t be mislead to believe it’s anything but.
Based on many previous news reports, we all know they will at least be fatter, so a bigger, slower moving target is better right?
They would have been tried long ago if the terrorist sympathizers on the left would have allowed it. Problem was, those on the left objected to their trial lawyer buddies not being on the gravy train.
I’m confident several airmen could come to that conclusion.
I think Obama should just move them all to the local jail in DC and send them to court like everyone else there. This will be the most cost effective way to deal with them in the short run. Within 1 day they will all be released pending trials that will never happen. End of problem.
At least, in the short run. . . .
I bet I spent more time thinking this through than Obama has. Obama probably thinks there would actually be some sort of trials. There will never be any civilian trials of any of these prisoners.
Negative. Doing this would completely undermine the Geneva Conventions. It would expose captured US Servicemen to local criminal process (which may involve pitchforks, torches and a gallows) rather than international law.
I say enforce the Geneva Conventions which, as the left wants you to ignore, prescribes the following for these bastards that were caught on the battle field without identification, without uniform, while in the act of attacking identified, uniformed soldiers:
1. One bullet in the back of the head
2. Burial.
Isn’t the Rule of Law wonderful?
You have my vote.
2. Burial?
Go that far?
Well, I suppose if Obama releases them into the US, or puts them in US jails from which they can and will escape, we’ll have a speed-up in the return to terrorist attacks within our own borders, and it will be hard for the Dems to blame Bush for that, won’t it? Nah, they’ll find a deranged way. Remember how Bush said you don’t want to treat terrorism like a crime, but as an act of war? Well, guess what? We’ve been out-voted, and now the country is going to pay the price.
The upside is, if they return to the fight, maybe we can get it right this time, and kill them.
I almost missed comment #14 which made your post a bit incredulous to me until I saw it. Then I laughed.
I know you hate the /sarc… but you gotta give us something to clue us in on the tone.
Instead of letting them go, force them to attend the inauguration of ‘that one’—-that’ll learn ‘em.
wighttrasch #64: That would be cruel and inhuman treatment to have to be in close proximity to Obama. Boomer #37 – Hear you, guy; wish all my fellow AFers good luck with this new socialist CIC.
PKAmmo #58 – Loved your post! Direct and no BS – let’s get ‘er done.
RetFireman, Very nice but you missed one thing: The last time Martial Law was enacted in the USA, Lincoln signed the order. It has not yet been repealed – notice the gold fringe on every US flag at a government office. That is what it signifies. Grant left the order alone to remind the South that it lost. The issue was diluted over time..
As for Gitmo detainees, Lead, especially 55 grains or 230 grains (dependent on caliber used) and a small bit of powder is a lot cheaper than detention. I will be happy to fund the ammunition. Something tells me there is no shortage of American Men in uniform willing to perform the mechanical work necessary to apply the lead in it’s proper place (pulling the trigger). However, if need be, I am willing to do that too..