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	<title>Comments on: Liveblogging S-CHIP &#8220;debate&#8221; on House floor</title>
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		<title>By: Chair Of House Republican Caucus Rep. Casada, Tomorrow 8:35 &#171; The Mike Slater Show</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chair Of House Republican Caucus Rep. Casada, Tomorrow 8:35 &#171; The Mike Slater Show</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jan 2009 20:24:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] 6:30 we&#8217;re talking with Michael Cannon from CATO on SCHIP that was just all of a sudden passed with no [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Charging Elephants .com &#187; House Expands SCHIP</title>
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		<dc:creator>Charging Elephants .com &#187; House Expands SCHIP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jan 2009 03:08:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] roll call vote is here (H/T Michelle Malkin). The Senate is also debating a version of this bill. One important topic being discussed is the [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Congress&#8217;s Parting Gift To President Bush: SCHIP: UPDATED &#171; Jane Q. Republican</title>
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		<dc:creator>Congress&#8217;s Parting Gift To President Bush: SCHIP: UPDATED &#171; Jane Q. Republican</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jan 2009 02:17:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] passes with 40 Republicrats on board. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Send_Me</title>
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		<dc:creator>Send_Me</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jan 2009 02:11:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;In the name of the Lord Jesus Christ, we command you, brothers, to keep away from every brother who is idle and does not live according to the teaching you received from us. For you yourselves know how you ought to follow our example. We were not idle when we were with you, nor did we eat anyone&#039;s food without paying for it. On the contrary, we worked night and day, laboring and toiling so that we would not be a burden to any of you. We did this, not because we do not have the right to such help, but in order to make ourselves a model for you to follow. For even when we were with you, we gave you this rule: &#039;If a man will not work, he shall not eat.&#039;
We hear that some among you are idle. They are not busy; they are busybodies. Such people we command and urge in the Lord Jesus Christ to settle down and earn the bread they eat. And as for you, brothers, never tire of doing what is right.
If anyone does not obey our instruction in this letter, take special note of him. Do not associate with him, in order that he may feel ashamed. Yet do not regard him as an enemy, but warn him as a brother.&quot;
~2 Thessalonians 3:6-15</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;In the name of the Lord Jesus Christ, we command you, brothers, to keep away from every brother who is idle and does not live according to the teaching you received from us. For you yourselves know how you ought to follow our example. We were not idle when we were with you, nor did we eat anyone&#8217;s food without paying for it. On the contrary, we worked night and day, laboring and toiling so that we would not be a burden to any of you. We did this, not because we do not have the right to such help, but in order to make ourselves a model for you to follow. For even when we were with you, we gave you this rule: &#8216;If a man will not work, he shall not eat.&#8217;<br />
We hear that some among you are idle. They are not busy; they are busybodies. Such people we command and urge in the Lord Jesus Christ to settle down and earn the bread they eat. And as for you, brothers, never tire of doing what is right.<br />
If anyone does not obey our instruction in this letter, take special note of him. Do not associate with him, in order that he may feel ashamed. Yet do not regard him as an enemy, but warn him as a brother.&#8221;<br />
~2 Thessalonians 3:6-15</p>
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		<title>By: House Expands SCHIP &#171; Verus Politics: Truth and Reason</title>
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		<dc:creator>House Expands SCHIP &#171; Verus Politics: Truth and Reason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jan 2009 01:50:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] roll call vote is here (H/T Michelle Malkin). The Senate is also debating a version of this bill. One important topic being discussed is the [...]</description>
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		<title>By: zorro</title>
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		<dc:creator>zorro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jan 2009 01:14:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;The Trojan Horse sails through, &lt;strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;with the support of 40 Republicans&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

And yet they keep asking conservatives to jump on board and support the party.  What sort of fools do they take us for?  To hell with the hapless republicans.  They can fund raise using democrap donor lists.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>The Trojan Horse sails through, <strong><em>with the support of 40 Republicans</em></strong>.</p></blockquote>
<p>And yet they keep asking conservatives to jump on board and support the party.  What sort of fools do they take us for?  To hell with the hapless republicans.  They can fund raise using democrap donor lists.</p>
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		<title>By: Health Care BS</title>
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		<dc:creator>Health Care BS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jan 2009 00:54:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;SCHIP AND THE STILL-DUMB TOBACCO TAX...&lt;/strong&gt;

What is it about bad ideas that makes them so hard to kill? In a sane world, a tobacco tax to fund a health care program would be laughed out of existence. I mean, it creates a need for smokers. It&#8217;s an idea so dumb that only Congress could thi...</description>
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<p>What is it about bad ideas that makes them so hard to kill? In a sane world, a tobacco tax to fund a health care program would be laughed out of existence. I mean, it creates a need for smokers. It&#8217;s an idea so dumb that only Congress could thi&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: happy2behere</title>
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		<dc:creator>happy2behere</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 23:40:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Health care = right?
Education = right?

You won&#039;t die without education.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Health care = right?<br />
Education = right?</p>
<p>You won&#8217;t die without education.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin K.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kevin K.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 23:30:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Elm Creek Smith said: (#35)
&lt;blockquote&gt;    &lt;blockquote&gt;On January 14th, 2009 at 2:34 pm, FamilyMan said:
    JUST A REMINDER OF FUNDAMENTAL
    Our constitution was written to limit the powers of the federal government. The guaranteed rights are only those with are enumerated.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
  
Not really.

“Amendment IX

The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.”&lt;/blockquote&gt;

As I read it, the rights are retained by the people.  (People have rights, the federal government has enumerated powers.)  Further, by the tenth amendment: &quot;The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.&quot;

So, in context of the original question by chapoutier asking if education were a right, it could be &lt;em&gt;at the state level&lt;/em&gt;.  It is not, nor is universal health care, at the federal level.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Elm Creek Smith said: (#35)</p>
<blockquote><blockquote>On January 14th, 2009 at 2:34 pm, FamilyMan said:<br />
    JUST A REMINDER OF FUNDAMENTAL<br />
    Our constitution was written to limit the powers of the federal government. The guaranteed rights are only those with are enumerated.</p></blockquote>
<p>Not really.</p>
<p>“Amendment IX</p>
<p>The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.”</p></blockquote>
<p>As I read it, the rights are retained by the people.  (People have rights, the federal government has enumerated powers.)  Further, by the tenth amendment: &#8220;The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.&#8221;</p>
<p>So, in context of the original question by chapoutier asking if education were a right, it could be <em>at the state level</em>.  It is not, nor is universal health care, at the federal level.</p>
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		<title>By: nlebou</title>
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		<dc:creator>nlebou</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 22:30:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;On January 14th, 2009 at 2:18 pm, karenhasfreedom said: &lt;/blockquote&gt;

I would appeal that decision. That does not add up. I know people who have been on SCHIP who made more than that, (unless there is income you don&#039;t know about) they should qualify. I know someone who contacted their Reps and Senators who were able to help them get SCHIP after being denied.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>On January 14th, 2009 at 2:18 pm, karenhasfreedom said: </p></blockquote>
<p>I would appeal that decision. That does not add up. I know people who have been on SCHIP who made more than that, (unless there is income you don&#8217;t know about) they should qualify. I know someone who contacted their Reps and Senators who were able to help them get SCHIP after being denied.</p>
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		<title>By: nlebou</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2009/01/14/liveblogging-s-chip-debate-on-house-floor/comment-page-1/#comment-591262</link>
		<dc:creator>nlebou</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 22:24:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>CantCureStupid!!!! Where are you. We need you to do as you mentioned earlier, run against that moron Melancon. We have got to get him out of office. He voted for this crap also.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CantCureStupid!!!! Where are you. We need you to do as you mentioned earlier, run against that moron Melancon. We have got to get him out of office. He voted for this crap also.</p>
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		<title>By: sonofdy</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2009/01/14/liveblogging-s-chip-debate-on-house-floor/comment-page-1/#comment-591237</link>
		<dc:creator>sonofdy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 21:57:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I don’t believe that there is a right to have me pay for your stuff (education, health care) without my agreement. &lt;/blockquote&gt; Shut up, pay your taxes,  and do what you are told.

/pelosi mode off.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I don’t believe that there is a right to have me pay for your stuff (education, health care) without my agreement. </p></blockquote>
<p> Shut up, pay your taxes,  and do what you are told.</p>
<p>/pelosi mode off.</p>
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		<title>By: dadinseattle</title>
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		<dc:creator>dadinseattle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 21:31:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Where is the Republican leadership?

Why follow Nancy&#039;s totalitarianism rules?

They should have every member rise to offer amendments for every bill until she is forced to turn off the cameras and lights once again, or reinstate honest debate, it&#039;s the peoples house, not her empire!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Where is the Republican leadership?</p>
<p>Why follow Nancy&#8217;s totalitarianism rules?</p>
<p>They should have every member rise to offer amendments for every bill until she is forced to turn off the cameras and lights once again, or reinstate honest debate, it&#8217;s the peoples house, not her empire!</p>
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		<title>By: Elm Creek Smith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Elm Creek Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 21:09:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;On January 14th, 2009 at 3:44 pm, sonofdy said: 
You forgot the latest amendment.

Amendment pelosi:

The constitution means whatever the hell I say it does and you peons can go pound sand.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

That&#039;s &lt;strong&gt;not&lt;/strong&gt; an amendment!  I just figured to stir the pot.

I don&#039;t believe that there is a right to have &lt;strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;me&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/strong&gt; pay for &lt;strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;your&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/strong&gt; stuff (education, health care) without my agreement. 

ECS
ECS</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>On January 14th, 2009 at 3:44 pm, sonofdy said:<br />
You forgot the latest amendment.</p>
<p>Amendment pelosi:</p>
<p>The constitution means whatever the hell I say it does and you peons can go pound sand.</p></blockquote>
<p>That&#8217;s <strong>not</strong> an amendment!  I just figured to stir the pot.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t believe that there is a right to have <strong><em>me</em></strong> pay for <strong><em>your</em></strong> stuff (education, health care) without my agreement. </p>
<p>ECS<br />
ECS</p>
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		<title>By: MarcoPolo</title>
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		<dc:creator>MarcoPolo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 20:46:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pfft - Boehner is up there crying for S-CHIP Lite.  He&#039;s no better than the Democrats.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pfft &#8211; Boehner is up there crying for S-CHIP Lite.  He&#8217;s no better than the Democrats.</p>
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