Religious tolerance in Hollywood? What’s that?
Terrifically talented graphic novelist, video game designer, writer, and blogger Doug TenNapel has a must-read piece at Big Hollywood on his first-hand experience with Hollywood’s brand of “religious tolerance.”
Here’s the intro:
I once had a meeting with an executive regarding one of my graphic novels that had been optioned. This exec started the writer’s meeting with a few notes to change some rough spots in the story. This is normal procedure with my work. I have no problem with making these changes, since it’s part of the game given where I’m at in my career. They pay me lots of money so I like these execs when I’m sentenced to work with them. I was taken aback by the first round of notes that went something like this, “For starters, we’re gonna get rid of all this Christian shit from the story, right?”
The exec informed me that religious imagery didn’t sell to American audiences, that it was intolerant and it definitely didn’t export. This was before ‘The Passion of the Christ’ so I can forgive his ignorance of the world’s most popular religion, but it was the word intolerant that struck me. How was the inclusion of religion not tolerant while the removal of it was?
Doug’s website is here.
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Euphemisms for (1) killing babies (what about their right to live?) and (2) manufacturing a “right” to marriage. Let’s be honest here, Omu.
My understanding is that the dust cloud caused by the collision then either fell back to earth, or onto the surface of the moon (the source of many of the craters seen there). since the moon was moving around the earth, it may have attracted more of the “dust”, and in a more evenly distributed manner – thus the spherical shape.
Attracting some of the debris created in the collision would have nothing to do with being in a vacuum – gravity would suffice.
Okay, you have proven yourself to be horrifically ignorant about the gay community. And now you have done the same, except this time showing your pitifully awful understanding of the black community. You are no longer deserving of the seriousness with which I countered your laughably inaccurate depiction of the gay community. How weird it must feel to live in a world where fabricated caricatures are the way all is seen!
Considering there is a post on this very website about a Democrat pol inviting Ludacris to garner support from the black community, I’d say yes:
How weird it must be to live in a world where fabricated caricatures [of say, Christians] are the way all is seen.
I see ugly, I call ugly. Period.
Social conservatives are perhaps the most juvenile kind of voter. To reduce an issue as complex as abortion to “baby killing” and somehow deriding the granting of pre-existing rights (ignoring the fact that emancipation and freedom of segregation would be considered “manufactured rights” by his or her own logic.
Let’s be fair, you’re awfully simple minded.
Yes, using a “Star Wars” reference really builds your credibility, Omu.
FYI – I’m a woman. Christianity doesn’t impede my rights; it does what you – and popular culture – refuse to. Treat me as a woman. Which means understanding and embracing the fact that my fertility isn’t a disease and I’m designed to conceive, carry, and bear children.
Christianity treats me more like a woman than secular culture.
As for gay “rights”, Christians don’t send groups into the homes of gays to separate couples or imprison them, do they? Gays are allowed the same *actual* rights we are. Marriage is not a right; rights are things protected from government intrusion or revocation. No one has the “right” to marry; if that were the case, single people who can’t get a date would have the “right” to sue for equal treatment under the law because they have a “right” to enjoy the benefits of marraige, too.
We Christians participate in the political process to prevent a time-honored cornerstone of society – marriage (which exists outside of American and Christian tradition as one man, one woman in most places in the world) from being changed by activist judges or thuggish activist groups.
Abortion is no more complex. There are no illnesses or diseases that direct abortion cures.
That doesn’t even make sense. But, then again – you said it best:
OMU- (dramatic pause) I AM YOUR FATHER….
Abortion: one dead, one wounded every time. (Granted, perhaps you meant the ways in which babies are killed (oops — meant to say “women’s rights are exercised”) are complicated.)
Marriage is not a “right” described in the founding documents of this country. It is a privilege, and the access to marriage is based on meeting certain criteria, upon which the citizens actually have a say. The citizens of many (most) states in this Union have voted overwhelmingly against redefining marriage to suit your tastes.
In order not to simplify these very basic issues, one must contort themselves intellectually. Omu, that must be painful for you, and not terribly productive, either.
What does this point prove, though? I mean, beyond the fact that you are also racist as well as homophobic?
What exactly is wrong with Ludacris (a black icon) to drum up support among young black? Ah, I see, it’s because they talk about “baby momma’s” right? Because they talk differently than you do?
Hah, I think you might feel more at home in 1920s Mississippi! I often defend Republicans from the accusations of being backward hicks that come from many of the Europeans I speak with, but you really are making my protestations become retroactively in vain!
Omu,
How is opposing gay marriage harmful to gays? I support the right to civil unions, non-discriminatory hiring practices, etc. I just don’t agree that a religious ceremony is necessary for them.
You stated you would oppose marriages that involved pederasty and incest? About incest – would you oppose adult first cousins marrying – as is the custom among some Pakistanis? That is incest (as commonly defined) – is that damaging to anyone (other than the kids).
As someone stated here earlier two sexes mating is the norm for all higher level creatures. Same sex “mating” is not normal, neither is pedophilia nor incest (although the latter two are common among animals). Why are you so certain that one abnormality is all the change that we will see? because of its abhorrence, because of the damage it causes – these were all argued against homosexual unions years ago. You cite Europe as an example of the non-damage resulting from acceptance of gay marriage – you do not have any long term data that suggests that harm has not been done by this, only your conjecture. Taking a more cautious approach is not bigotry – just caution.
Englishqueen01,
It is interesting that OMU wants to equate Christianity to limiting a womens rights. Pope John Paul talked about the sacrament of marriage as celebrating women and the joy felt between a man and a woman. He was against birth control because he felt the woman was debased and became an object of lust vs someone to love and celebrate life together with.
OMU will never understand that. I know that he will attack me for speaking the truth but that is the plight of the Christian. I cannot believe that he is getting the attention that he is on this thread. A true victim of a homophobic world.
I, like you and other Christians, will pray for him.
LOL. Liberals really can’t argue can they?
My mere mention of a liberal Democrat politician using a famous black rapper with a negative message is enough to brand me racist?
How about employing a black person famous among lower class African Americans in order to garner their votes? Isn’t that a bit more racist than mentioning its occurrence? Well, it isn’t really racist, just very cynical.
You are beyond silly, Omu. A Silly Liberal. A Silliberal. That is what you are.
And pretending that women are as simple as being ‘baby carriers’ and claiming senior judges, trained in the constitution (something I assume is not true of YOU) are “activists” does nothing to build your credibility either.
You don’t understand black people at all. Nor do I, but at least I’m not pretending I do and making racist insinuations based upon my ignorance. Maybe, just maybe, black people are receptive to some of the stuff Ludacris sings about? Maybe it doesn’t make sense to you because you’re not black? Have you ever considered this?
No, I assume not. But, anyway, let’s just pretend those centuries where black people were actual slaves didn’t happen. And let’s pretend that once they did get freedom, their progress wasn’t crippled by Jim Crow. Then, when a large portion of the black population is still poor today, as a result of past racism, let’s just call them whiners and deride their culture, right? Grow up, BKennedy. Grow up!
Ginsburg was an ACLU hack. Being appointed to the highest court in the land did not instantaneously erase her history of being an ACLU hack.
You appoint a judicial activist, they are still a judicial activist. You have merely granted them more power.
For the record, fertility and the ability to concieve and bear children are just three of the reasons I love the ladies. There are several more.
*deride their culture as having a “negative message”, that should read.
Omu, I must apologize for the comments re “frustrating, annoying, and painful”. Seriously. That was over the line of me.
OMU,
You need help friend. Where did she ever say that women are baby carriers? She knows that she is much more than that and her husband would agree completely. As for the judges that she addresses, the previous crop did not address the law, rather they made the law from proclamations from the bench. Not a constitutional power granted to them.
You need to bone up on your constitutional education. God bless you and help you.
Most of the time, wighttrasch is female. Like today.
I have never felt like a second class citizen in my nearly 50 years.
Omu, let me tell you a few things: you will never be able to understand what it is like to be happily-sexually-active Christian female with first-hand knowledge of abortion, sacrifice, fidelity, redemption, grace and love.
Get educated, Omu.
Long before Ludacris started spreading his mysogynistic bilge, black families before and after Jim Crow stayed together in rates far, far higher than even whites.
So what happened? Government dependence happened. Back when the government stayed out of the African American’s life or outright opposed his existence, African Americans fended for themselves; they had no other choice.
Now they are coddled by their new Democratic masters, and as a result their illegitimacy rate has ballooned upwards of 70%. Government dependency and abortion conbined have killed more black people than the Klan (another Democrat invention) could ever have dreamed of. It will continue for as long as it is lucrative for shysters like Shapton and gathers votes for Democrats.
It is impossible to know “black people” or “gay people” because people are not collectives, they are individuals. You and your ilk do not understand that, which is why you speak in terms of singular collectives.
I’m going to assume you’re grown up, Omu. It’s education you need.
Not to demean your life experiences, but I honestly have missed the point and relevance of this comment. Would you care to explain?
Also, let me tell you that you’ll never know what it’s like to see a teenager cry because he or she is being bullied and harassed, and doesn’t even have their own government on their side, all simply because they are. I saw that when I was in High School in Houston and I’ll never forget and I’ll never forget the horrible people who attack these teenagers when they’re down.
Black people and gay people are collectives. As a result of people spreading their ignorance, they have to be collectives. It’s also rather funny that you lament the days of segregation while at the same time lambasting me for suggesting you might be a racist. You’ve said nothing that makes me think you are grown up, so I’ll have to withhold making that same assumption about you. Only a child would deny gay people equality because of an aversion to gay sex and a dislike of one single street fair in San Francisco. Only a child would pretend to understand the vastly complicated history of Afro-Americans and make grand sweeping generalisations as a result.
OMU
Your answer to wighttrasch shows your ignorance about male/female relationships. The intimacy that you think is achieved by homosexual relationships does not come close to a man and a woman who give themselves to each other.
HELP yourself however you can.
Not to mock your analogy, but who the hell jumps from “teenager being harrassed and mocked” to “what can the government do for me?”
Oh right, a
closet fascistliberal. Question withdrawn.That right there, Omu.
I’d really like to know what power I have had. If a Christian even acts like he has bowed his head in silent prayer, all hell breaks loose.
My ‘rights’ have never been limited as a woman. I have known and been friends with gay people, and I have been to gay ‘clubs’. I have experienced life in Europe and Africa as well as here in the USA. Hey–I’m just like you! But less bigoted.
I read these kind of comments and I ask myself “Is this a joke?” and then I grow slowly more horrified as the chilling realisation that no, you people are actually being serious quickly sets in.
How do you know that the intimacy achieved by gay couples is a lesser intiimacy than that as achieved by heterosexuals? Have you had sex with a long term same sex partner, and then compared that experience to a similar heterosexual one? Because, if not, I don’t think you are in any position to make such a gravely hurtful remark. Like I’ve said, I know many gay couples, all of whom seem to be just as happy as the straight couples I know, even though they know they are people like you trying to dehumanise and impede them.
And I suppose your grand, sweeping [and wrong] generalisations are the result of a completely mature mind?
What is good for the goose is good for the gander, Omu.
Mature people do not need to call other people children. That is an argument from a position of weakness. In fact it isn’t a valid argument at all, but an ad hominem. Jesus was a child in the temple, yet he was preaching with authority because that authority was His.
Or to use words familiar to you: You’re an Ageist.
OMU will never understand anything outside of his own narrow world view. Which brings us to ZOMBIES!!!
sonofdy–I’ll get the cricket bat!
The intimacy achieved by heterosexual couples produces a unique human life that shows the bond between the two parents in the most literal way possible.
No amount of “man my *&%^ feels great” [to be blunt] could ever come close to that feeling, the feeling of producing life.
Omu,
Another reason for opposing gay marriage is the law of unintended consequences. George Will wrote an excellent column on how government threats to prosecute intelligence and/or aptitude tests by employers made many of them abandon them and instead insist on a college degree. That made it less likely for an intelligent, but uneducated person, to be able to prove his or her worth to a prospective employer. It also increased the demand for college degrees. Thus putting them out of reach for many smart poor people – who would have benefited from being able to prove their intelligence from a simple test.
The Great Society – I remember getting goose bumps listening to Lyndon Johnson’s speech about having the power to help poor people and how he “meant to use it”. As BKennedy points out the result has been an increase in misery among black people.
The biggest opponent of affirmative action I ever met, was my black roommate in college. He said it was an A or a B or being grounded for him and his sister in high school. And now he would be viewed in the same light as all those fools who played basketball instead of studying and were accepted because of the color of their skin.
It (affirmative action) was meant to help, an unintended consequence is that it has cheapened the achievements of many blacks who did the work.
I fear the same unintended consequence of allowing gay marriage. If you think that we will not see acceptance of polygamy in Europe in the next decade – you are not paying attention to what is happening there.
What reality do you live in? Why pretend like you’re a victim when that has no basis in reality at all? Your right to worship is guaranteed, you even got the right to have your tax exempt churches participate in Prop 8 in California and strip gay people of their rights. Your kind, Christians, had a fundamentalist in the White House for the last 8 years. You had another fundamentalist loser, in form of Mrs. Palin, as a viable vice presidential candidate. Atheists are the ones who are excluded from American communities and don’t you pretend that isn’t true! Spare me the faux-drama.
You’ve experience all of this and yet you still wish for those gay people you met in those clubs to not have the chance at happiness in marriage that you and I have? Pray tell, what on Earth did those gay people in their club do to you to warrant such hatred?
I heard the space dust theory but it does not hold water. If we are going to use space dust, I like the theory that the moon is billions of years old and has collected enough dust to be several feet think – like NASA believed when they launched the first lunar landing. Too bad the dust just was not there giving cause to the young earth age and the whole – it was faked uprising (because the dust was just not there).
Can you imaging the absolute miracle of a space rock hitting another space rock culminating in a perfect synchronous orbit for the future life on this planet? Then the first space rock is perfectly distanced to provide what this rock will need to keep the tides perfect. The second space rock is also tilted just perfectly for the future seasons we will need to sustain life. If ANY of this fails – no life. Forget about the complexity of DNA and the single cell.
Accidents are so cool!!!
Like you said: Great shot big guy!
Happiness in marriage does not come from outward recognition. If you need validation for your love, you really aren’t getting what marriage is about.
If merely lacking a certificate diminishes the value of your relationship, you aren’t interested in marriage. You are interested in the acceptance and adulation of others.
Which brings us back to where we started…
I live in Europe!! You’re trying to tell me what’s happening over here, even though I actually live here? Sheesh! Show me the proof that there is a greater acceptance for polygamy in Europe than in the U.S. Show me the gains polygamists are making in countries that have legalised gay marriage? Come on now, if you’re make a claim like that (ridiculous as it is; and believe, it’s ridiculous. You know nothing about Europe. Nothing.) the burden of proof is on you.
give us some examples of this. this should be good…
link
wasn’t hard to find…you live in europe huh???
I think they should allow marriage to zombies. Just because they are undead with the iq of a sausage and a taste for brains, doesn’t mean they can’t love!!!
the wonderful public school system of britain has instilled homosexuality in the wonderful british upper class for well over a hundred years. now of course, all the sophisticated elites of america seek to emulate the british as they have done for decades. is it any wonder the home town of the nambla pedophile ring is in the same town as harvard. what education system, and what parents, would turn over their children to places where it is accepted practice for the older students to sexually abuse the younger ones. then omu you wonder why every other person you meet in england is a poofster. would the last straight heterosexual male in britain turn out the lights on your way to australia or the u.s. PLEASE
That’s not the point. As long as gay relationships are considered to be second class to straight relationships, there is always going to be problems. Also, without marriage, gay couples are left without the best institution in which to raise children. In any case, we can’t just tell gay people “Meh, you’re happy enough as you are. You don’t need these rights we enjoy and celebrate so much”.
OMU,
Typical reply. The heterosexuals who experience the love and closeness of a normal relationship have no idea of what the homosexuals experience. You are one hundred percent correct. Heterosexuals will never experience that. But they will have children without outside help and do no spread STD’s at the rate or the gay community. I will back that up.
Good luck to you.
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I thought it was about love. Sweet sweet zombie love. Zombie rights!!!
Omu,
You are either really very good about appearing to be somewhat retarded, or somewhat retarded. You do not score points by calling someone an idiot or immature (that is idiotic and immature).
Some people, like you, think that there is good bigotry and bad bigotry. I once had a teacher who tried to teach an American Problems class by showing us how great black people were because they could all sing and dance so well. She took me to task once by stating that I wouldn’t think I was so smart if I were in the same class as a “little Japanese boy”, cause he would get better grades – they all did (according to her).
You state that you have many gay friends and relatives – that, according to you, gives you the right to question our motives for behavior – which if we don’t agree with your position can only be because we are idiotic, immature, and bigoted.
Blacks and gays are collective because of bigots? That is one of the most reprehensible statements I have ever read on this site. Blacks can’t help being the way they are because bigots like us have enslaved their ancestors – this is what you are saying. What a retarded, bigoted statement.
they are ‘second class’ all they do is ape heterosexual relationships…with ‘tops’ and ‘bottoms’ they’re sick and twisted. as are those who support them…as you prove with every post.
As long as zombie relationships are considered to be second class to human relationships, there is always going to be problems.
right4life,
I don’t know why you continue to post links to organisations with a very, very clear bias (“bias” is putting in mildly) in order to prove a point. It really doesn’t help your case at all.
Anyway, that article specifically states that polygamy is illegal in Europe and will be for the forseeable future.
I take no responsibility for sonofdy’s posts.
The entire gay marriage thing has degerated into a circular argument so…… Its zombie time!!!
I’m done; Omu cares more about the crying teenager (who here didn’t cry as a teenager?!) than the venom I have seen spit at someone saying a prayer at lunch.
For the record; my gay friends did nothing to me. I actually had a pretty good time. I think it was because none of them wanted to get married.
Here’s the latest scientific theory:
Creation of the Moon
Video
(IMHO, truly a miracle)
Without going into the math & physics, boidies in space become round when they have enough mass for gravity to pull them into a ball.
Omu,
Do you know how many years I have lived in Europe? Like I said before you are either very good at appearing to be somewhat retarded or are actually somewhat retarded.
What I was referring to was the demographics of Muslim populations in Europe? right4life just provided a couple links – there are hundreds more – if you are willing to look.
I agree! After all, zombies don’t even need a partner to procreate. They just need some exposed flesh on a human and a bit of zombie blood or saliva. Totally against the divine plan.
Omu,
It is 2314 hrs and time to go to sleep. You need to get a clue, men and women are made to be together. NOT Adam and Steve or Alisha a Eve.
Neat thing is that when biblical mores are followed life goes well.
Then it’s Muslims that are to blame for polygamy (a practice will never be accepted in Europe, ever) and not gay people. I don’t know why you get off on scapegoating gay people for every problem under the sun, but you should really stop. No one who believes in God should call someone else a “retard”. It’s ironic, and I don’t think we need more irony in this world.
Omu,
There are also several cases of polygamy in the US – not all of them in Utah among Mormons. There are several polygamist relationships among American Muslims. Although they are considered to be illegal – those who participate don’t bother with the sanction of government – believing in a higher sanction for their actions. It is happening in Europe whether you want to believe it or not – most of your posts exhibit your close minded approach to most topics – this is just another example.
And don’t get me started on the whole “Slow, shambling, eat you later” zombies vs. “Kenyans on Meth, tear you to pieces” zombies either. They all have the same right to be gunned down.
You mean when the Biblical mores you’ve decided are good are followed, and the rest of them chucked out (you know, the verses justifying slavery, prescribing death as a punishment for sowing two seeds together or wear tow difffernt fabrics and so and so on). Right?
whoa; what Old Testament are you reading?
The zombie old testament.
ok, good.
I and II Zombies; verses 1-12
Zombies II verse 35 – 41
35: And they did smite the zombies so that thier brains were percied. Woe unto the zombie king said the prophet chainsaw hand.
36: And the lord did take away the zombies speach, that they may only groan, so great was thier sin of brain eating.
37: Then did the angel come down from heaven saying “man shall not marry zombie, because of the ickness thereof”
38: Neither shall woman marry zombie.
39: In fact fooling arround with zombies is pretty much out.
40: And it came to pass that sariah the weak minded did fool arround with zombie kind and did seak such marriage.
41: And the angel did say “EEEEWWWW” and did smite sariah.
Omu, you’re a bigot.
Why do you hate polygamists so much????? What did they ever do to you?
By the way, why do insist on attaching such a stigma to older people that engage in sex with people younger than some age arbitrarily selected by bigots?
AWESOME!! I didn’t know that angels said ‘EEEEWWWW!’
Where did I say I hated polygamists, or even display an outward distaste for them?
I am consider writing the books of the zombies to add to the bible. For fun of course.
On January 15th, 2009 at 5:48 pm, sonofdy said:
I am consider writing the books of the zombies to add to the bible. For fun of course.
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The Book Of Romero!
Seriously, I no longer care what Hollyweird thinks of Christians. I enjoy watching/listening to some of them, but their good opinion doesn’t matter so much to me. And it shouldn’t to anyone else.
Omu,
Google “polygamy in Europe” – I did and got 979,000 hits. Most of them, I am sure (at least according to you), are biased.
I guess I must accept your assessment of me. Since I am unsure about changing a tradition that has served mankind well for thousands of years (in all civilizations) I am bigoted. Even though I support all civil rights for gay people, I must be a bigot for opposing the “right” to gay marriage.
You’ve stated that you don’t think polygamy should be legal, therefore you, quite obviously, hate them.
Omu,
Is the BBC biased? Here’s a link to a story about the acting prime minister in Chechnya advocating polygamy.
Last time I looked Chechnya was east of the Urals, a province of Russia, and more or less considered a part of Europe.
corkie; I hate your name. What is that? A little cork? A mockery of those with Down Syndrome? /sarc
Heh.
I haven’t stated polygamy should be legal. Haha, o ye who clutches at straws! Your point is as tired and irrelevant as your Republican party.
Zombies in the Bible ?
EEEWWWW… ROFLMAO
Good one…
ROFL
Strangly, you can substitute zombie with OMU and get the same result.
…and the dust is just filler – got it!
Sigh. Do you just pretend to be this inept, or is it real?
Google “polygamy in Texas” and you will get about 655,000 results. Texas is a state that actually had gay sex as being illegal up until about 5 years and explicitly bans gay couples from being married. Are you going to tell me there’s a connection between the gays and polygamy now?
Again, total ineptitude. Honestly, what world are you living in? Marriage has a very complex history, it hasn’t meant what it means today for the vast majority of history.
But you and your kind don’t support civil unions for gay couples, that’s the problem. I might believe you were being sincere, if you supported civil unions for gay couples in the red states but you don’t. And the Republican Party does not either.
The whole “zombie bible” narrative is amusing, because though you think you’re mocking me in some way, you are in fact mocking the Bible itself. A zombie does appear in that book, and I find the irony of pretending there are zombies in the book in order to mock something else to be amusing.
I just watched what I will term the “probably video”. It was probably made up by an overactive mind with little else to do. Probably believes in GoreBull Warming as well because, as you may know, they made a computer model of future events that will probably come to pass – probably.
You cannot believe the double impact theory. Well, you probably can.
I do agree the video is a miracle. It is a miracle people will give it any serious creditably (and they didn’t use probably more than 100 times).
I watched a zombie movie the other day. They probably exist.
never be accepted in europe? they’re getting WELFARE benefits for polygamy, so OBVIOUSLY it is accepted in europe..
you’re a liar. death isn’t the punishment for those things. but you have to lie given the weakness of your intellect.
yes, because when you make marriage meaningless as you do with gay marriage, then its a slippery slope, and whatever goes…
and yes pedophilia is right there..and the gay movement is all for it…because thats where they get their recruits…NAMBLA…name a hetero equivalent…you cannot.
When you skip a stone on water, it probably doesn’t fly off into outer space. Gravity is the reason.
So, because you can skip a stone on water, an object the size of Mars can probably skip off of the earth, do a u-ie, and hit it again just right to knock the earth on its proper axes and at the same time said object stops – on the second skip – and decides to face our planet with zero revolutions in a perfect synchronous orbit?
O K A Y
If the gravitational forces were so great as to pull the object in for a second hit, why not a 3rd, 4th, 5th…time until both were pulverized and formed a single planetoid? Oh, it has to form perfectly like we have it today to sustain life and this NEW AND IMPROVED theory is the latest laughable explanation.
Dude, I would sooner believe the rock you just threw skipped twice, stopped and will float on water for the next 4 billion years.
The vast majority of child pornography is produced and consumed by heterosexuals. I guess, by your logic, this fact means we can now start taking rights from heterosexuals, yes?
So now you’ve passed judgement on all Christians based on the actions of a few. I believe they call that prejudice.
Mr Pot, Mr Kettle is here to see you.
really? lets see your sources, broken down by percentages…since there are in absolute numbers more heterosexuals. than homosexuals.
back it up.
oh and why didn’t you name the hetero equivalent of NAMBLA???
because there is none.
What’s your point with NAMBLA anyway? Is every single gay person a member of NAMBLA, or is that not just a very small minority?
You know I wasn’t going to get involved, and I basically am still not, but you say some stupid asinine thing like “cause thats where they get their recruits”, without, it seems offering any evidence of this statement, and then get indignant when Omu says that the majority of child pornography is consumed by heteros?
Please.
Nope. The stone sinks in water. Gravity.
It really isn’t about you any more than the lolcat bible is.
It also isn’t mocking the bible. Parody isn’t always negative. Have you seen a celebrity roast?
Also, don’t think I haven’t noticed the zombie evolution. They started out as vampires, then Hollywood made vampires all seductive and romantic, so the zombie came along as a sort of Renaissance to the vampire origins. One need look no further than the three remakes of “I Am Legend” for proof.
If you think for one second a vampire could withstand the zombie hoards, you are crazy. I mean HELLO! Zombies are already undead. What is a vampire going to do to it? Poke it full of annoying little vampire tooth holes? Maybe…while its brains are being devoured!
give me a break you pompous half-wit…I already gave evidence…NAMBLA…and where is YOUR evidence to dispute what I said, since you’re the all-knowing liberal lawyer??
jacka**
NAMBLA is part of the homosexual movement.
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NAMBLA is only evidence that there are gay paedophiles. Surprise! There are heterosexual paedophiles, too. It’s not just a homosexual phenomena. Seriously, where do you pull this ridiculous logic from?
Wait, your evidence that gays “get their recruits from NAMBLA”…is “NAMBLA”? That makes zero sense. Do you at least have NAMBLA brochure or Gay Application Page you could point to? Or at least an anecdote about you or someone you know being recruited by NAMBLA? Do they goto high school basketball games like Division I coaches and scope out the best talent?
Please provide some actual evidence that NAMBLA is engaged in an actual active campaign to recruit people to “the gay side” DUHN DUHN DUHHHHHHN.
your own precious ACLU is defending NAMBLA even now…
moron.
Leading mainstream homosexual newspapers and magazines such as the Advocate, Edge, Metroline, The Guide, and The San Francisco Sentinel have not only published pro-NAMBLA articles and columns but also many have editorialized in favor of NAMBLA and sex with children. The editor of The Guide, Ed Hougen, stated in an interview with Lambda Report, “I believe they [NAMBLA] are generally interested in the right of young people to be sexual . . . . I am glad there is a group like NAMBLA that is willing to be courageous.” The San Francisco Sentinel was more blunt: “NAMBLA’s position on sex is not unreasonable, just unpopular. [W]hen a 14 year old homosexualboy approaches a man for sex, it’s because he wants sex with a man.”26
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Actually, let me rephrase that to better fit your implication. Please provide evidence that:
1) the gay community actively and systemically recruits others to be gay;
2) that NAMBLA is the main vehicle through which they do this.