With campaign finance regulation, comes a great amounts of data. You had to know that this was coming. Does this map freak you out? Maybe just a little?

Many events tend to raise suspicion amongst the population. Take for instance, a person walking th…

I don’t know if you are still reading but I’ll give it a shot once again:

If life has no intrinsic meaning, then what should it matter if a person murders another person?

I guess I would have to say to you, why do you need “god” to have “meaning” or “value” in life?

I feel empathy for other people. It is a naturally evolved trait that you can see in other animals as well (monkey for example). Why does it have to have “meaning” or “god?” I feel empathy and expect the same in return. It really is that simple.

As I said earlier, if you thought there was no god would that mean its OK to kill your neighbor? Of course not!

It does intrigue me to think that you do not feel awe or obligation to God to seek His truth, and so perhaps these questions are more of a rhetorical nature.

It is somewhat intriguing to me that you worship a “god” whom has (if you believe the Bible to be true) done absolutely horrible things in the distant past. How can you draw your morality from someone who supposedly killed every first born of Egypt? Doesn’t that sound monstrous and unforgivable?

Honestly, I wasn’t so insulted. It’s just very frustrating me to have this same exact conversation over and over again. Does it truly not occur to you that you don’t need “god” to tell you what is right and wrong? For that matter, how would “he” tell you anyway?

Again, I must insist that you read Kant (just one of many).

Zeroangel said: I have had a similar exchange with you in the past (which you seem to have forgotten) and frankly (though I realize you might not be aware of this) your comments are somewhat insulting.

Zero, no insult was intended. I do recall having a similar conversation with you before and this is where it pretty much ended last time.

I was trying to ask what you expect from others in terms of behavior and what you offer in return. If, for example, you think murder is wrong, why?? If life has no intrinsic meaning, then what should it matter if a person murders another person? By the same token, how can you expect to have your person and property respected by others if you are found to have no value by others?

It does intrigue me to think that you do not feel awe or obligation to God to seek His truth, and so perhaps these questions are more of a rhetorical nature.

I’m sorry you were insulted, truly I didn’t mean to offend you.

Even before the theory of evolution, believing in a god was absolutely irrational.

professing to be wise, they have become fools….

you confirm the truth of the bible, with every post.

do you even know the mechanism for evolution there omu? or do you just take it on FAITH???

oh well never get between a fool and the fire…

you put God into the mix, evolution rules Him out explicitly.

Even before the theory of evolution, believing in a god was absolutely irrational. Just because you can’t explain something at this point in time, you’re going to abandon scientific progress and just say it must be the result of some deity? Such an attitude is grossly juvenile.

However, among Christians, a belief in evolution does not expressly negate any belief in god. As I already point out, the Catholic Church accepts evolution without compromise. They choose instead to view it as being the product of God or whatever. But they accept it, understanding that science is science and pretending it’s not there (just as evangelical Americans do) is ludicrous. The Catholic Church is the largest Christian church in the world; has over 1 billion followers. 1 in every 6 people is a Catholic. Are you going to tell me they are worshipping Darwin in lieu of Jesus? I passionately dislike the Catholic Church. Passionately. But at least they accept facts for what they are.

On January 19th, 2009 at 5:11 pm, frostrt said:

You forgot Clinton.

I wonder why?

Because Mookie was talking about conservatives and last I checked Bill Clinton was not one of those?

You would do best to actually deal with the content of the arguments with which you disagree, rather than trying to show some egregious, crippling bias or what not. The way conservatives constantly react like you do (in desperation to avoid the actual discussion and bring the conversation down to the moronic level social conservatives are more comfortable with) makes jarringly obvious how unforgivable awful your arguments are.

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You forgot Clinton.

I wonder why?

Don’t ruin wonderful liberal theories by asking them to explain the mechanisms.

very true!!

it just works, somehow, like Obama’s economics!!!

Don’t ruin wonderful liberal theories by asking them to explain the mechanisms.

right4life, I’d be happy to answer your question. But why should I continue to answer your points when you refuse to acknowledge mine? You still have not pointed out any errors in my reasoning in post #502. If you are going to reject it, then point out the error, quote the precise location of my error, and explain why it is faulty.

I did, you think evolution is ‘theistic’ evolution…its not..you have your own theory of evolution, and its not what is taught in schools or believed by professional evolutionists.

you put God into the mix, evolution rules Him out explicitly.

if we evolved by random processes, then no god created us, and we don’t need a savior…how hard is this??