The official Flag of the Obama States of America
Defacing the flag in honor of the inauguration of Barack Obama?
Well, don’t you dare question their patriotism.
That would be…unpatriotic. (Hat tip: Inside Charm City)
Photo source: Baltimore Sun
US Flag Code: “The flag should never have placed upon it, nor on any part of it, nor attached to it any mark, insignia, letter, word, figure, design, picture, or drawing of any nature.”
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Re-branding Old Glory is, of course, simply a natural progression from the man who redesigned the presidential seal.
Commenter MtnsEdge wonders if the O-flag has 57 stars. Har.
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Krysstalnacht is the implosion of our economy.
http://www.calculatedriskblog.com/2009/01/uk-new-200bn-bad-bank-bailout-plan.html
Did he really say that? When and where?
Thanks, ArizonaNeanderthal and Boomer for mentioning the Gadsden Flag. I am going to order one from here. I like this very much, too.
ArizonaNeanderthal (#49), thanks for the link to Kate Smith. No one could sing that song as well as she did! (Marilyn Horne came close with her operatically trained voice, but still not the same.)
JHSII (#14)
I’m too late to say “Star Trek” (original series, of course). And I can’t give you the episode name as I can’t find my reference book, and my brother has the complete original series at his place. I’m thinking that it came from the second season, though. Quality got rather variable then, although it went downhill for season three (but some really good ones, too).
What was the name of the episode, please?
Yes he did. I guess it includes the right to do whatever you want to the flag, the presidential seal, the treasury, gun rights, the free market for health care, etc.
His promise of a
Nationale ZivilSicherheitskraft can’t be too far behind.
I expect the O-stika symbol on armbands to be a huge seller soon.
Kevin (and everyone else):
It was “The Apple”.
TOS Season 2, episode 5.
Thanks for Playing!!
Disgusting.
This entire spectacle and idol worship toward Obama reminds me of Jim Jones and Guyana. This is all abnormal.
But then…I am really fighting this “sore loser” thing.
It’s not sore losing. It has more to do with being disappointed in the Republican leadership and their tendancy to run from conservative values.
Someone said it earlier, but it bears repeating…
There’s one flag I’d gladly burn.
I’ve got 3 years and 10 months before I drop my retirement paperwork on the Army. I really hope I can make it til then.
And all of you Obama-worshipping apologists can kiss my ass. If I put George Bush on a U.S. flag, you would be apoplectic with rage and call me a nazi, a fascist, and any other pejorative you could look up the spelling of.
Despicable.
if Desecration of the flag is illegal or should be this is it….what a crock of you know what…this is a man not some deity with little to no experience to run this country. He has surrounding himself with crooks and dishonest people and people are either too stupid or blind to see it in the frenzy to see him elected. No real American would so vile the flag as these people have….God help us all as it certainly won’t be Barry…
He has more than once and he did again today in Philadelphia.
He also said that we can now continue the work that our founders started.
I’m sorry but if I see one of those flags somebody is getting an Obenema.
God bless you, PatriotRider. I needed the laugh.
I was thinking of perforating it and wrapping it around a paper tube myself, but my backside deserves better.
I propose that we display the flag on Tuesday in the inverted mode to indicate our concern for the nation’s future.
Can we do that?
Yes we can!
JHSII (#105)
Thank you. I had forgotten how long seasons were back then. I think next year I’m going to propose that I give my brother the Blue Ray versions of the seasons, and he can give me the original DVD versions.
I won’t fly old glory for this man. I refuse to. I would really like “I will not Submit” in Arabic on a black flag or maybe the Gadsden or Troutman flag. I have to put something up. It looks ridiculous. It looks like the Seinfeld Festivus pole in the middle of my front yard.
Michelle, can you hook me up with a high res graphic of the “I will not submit” in Arabic? I’ll silkscreen that on a big @ss flag and fly it until this guy is out of office.
On the flag:
I think that the Obamafication of the flag is shameful and illegal. The makers and distributors should be prosecuted. (But don’t take them away from the individuals who bought them. I’d hate to make a happy older woman mad at me.)
Yes, some of the other things that are done to US flags–such as President Bush signing a flag and flags being carried horizontally in parades and for ball games– are not in conformity with the Flag Code, but the intents are good, and the insults to the flag minor.
On flying Old Glory upside down: that used to be the flag equivalent of calling 911, so I would be careful where one does it, if at all. Flying the Gadsden flag is a much better choice.
*Would it be acceptable to have his likeness on each square of a roll of toilet paper?;No!; And neither is this; PEBO should call them on it and have them cease and desist.
*In any case, let the moochers have their time in the sun over the next 72 hours; It’s all downhill after that; Thinking people that have been listening to his words know they are empty, and without even promise; It is what he is about to do that we should pay close attention to, as all the moves he makes will be wrong for the country.
*The MSM will eventually catch up with reality, and realize after 1/20/2009 that the then P-BO is splashing around in the shallow end of the gene pool; This man is destined to fail; His failed ideology(socialism) will lead to a failed presidency and the GOP would be wise to keep their distance from his agenda.
Dare I say it? The flag already has a brown stain on it. Couldn’t….re..sist. Must….try….harder.
Who here doesn’t think this nation is distressed? I wouldn’t be mad at anyone who did this. I understand. I think we are a nation in trouble and have the wrong leadership in power…
Now THAT is funny.
Thanks, ArizonaNeanderthal and Boomer for mentioning the Gadsden Flag. I am going to order one. I think it would be the fitting flag/symbol for a new viable party – The Federalist Party(?) founded on the tenants of our founding fathers.
Oh shame, you have insulted That One!!!
Heh heh heh….
30 lashes with a licorice rope for you…
Its not sore losing, there’s plenty of justified complaining to get done.
But then there’s no reason to complain when with a little effort, we can all be real stinkers.
Oh my God. I’m damn near speechless.
Andrea Shea King
All hail King Obama: President for life
Eligibility battle rages on 3 fronts
Court, Congress and college challenged on constitutionality
I am not watching any major news type shows for a while. All I hear is how “historic” this is, etc, etc.
I will question their intelligence. It baffles the mind that this can be anything but pure stupidity.
Absolutely disgusting.
Yeah, the “historic” train ride. Good grief. And as I type this the television is hawking the Obama history making coin. Um, why is it history making? Because he is black (or at least half black, or 1/4)? Better hurry, there is a strict limit of 5 per customer!
Big surprize — the campaign proceeds.
Bottomline, the Bamster doesn’t have to govern. The PRESSSSident will run things for Barry. His role is to be the good looking ‘anchor’ man, reading the teleprompter, saying nice things…
It just occurred to me…
Obamanation sounds almost the same as abomination
American Patriot,
Good catch! There is a reason that Jerome Corsi named his book Obama Nation. The book will tick you off if you ever read it.
Sad time in America, but it has gone on before and we continue to fail to study history so as not to commit the same mistakes. Go public schools!
expat …
The problem is not that our kids are not studying history … it is that history is being rewritten so meet the liberal standards of the extreme left …
Yesterday Obamas said he we need a new Declaration of Independence. It was presented in a rhetorical fashion and was not meant as a serious proposal. There is however, an ideology that is beginning to make itself apparent.
Obama has already endorsed the idea of a second Bill of Rights. If you truly understands our constitution, you know that idea would destroy the original intent of limiting the governments powers. When the courts made a decision on a case, they need to defer to other historical documents for interpretations. The most commonly looked at, is the Declaration of Independence. If you create a new Declaration, you allow activist judges unlimited destruction of our Constitution.
I know this sounds like early morning ramblings, but my political paranoia is growing.
Has anyone else noticed these connections?
Family Man …
Well said … I think you pretty much nailed the hidden agenda there …
There was another one in the images there were someone stuck a sticker on a flag also.
http://www.baltimoresun.com/media/photo/2009-01/44576248.jpg
and here is another with the custom made flags
http://www.baltimoresun.com/media/photo/2009-01/44575339.jpg
and another
http://www.baltimoresun.com/media/photo/2009-01/44573787.jpg
Thank God, it’s not just me.
The question of changing the courts options for interpretations could only be accomplished by allowing newer documents to be used that could circumvent the older ones. How could that be done?
We need to keep an eye on the courts.
Family Man …
I think most of us here are pretty much at least in the same chapter if not on the same page and see the dangers of the next few years that we have to fight to stop …
As I see it Obama just won the first season of “President Idol” …
This was not an “election” … it was a popularity contest based on a publicity image rather than on substance …
We can thank the years of complacency by the public regarding our education system and the resulting liberal indoctrination given the children of this country … As a result of that failure to hold educators to higher standards we had people voting for the first time in their lives with no realistic understanding of what the office of POTUS actually is and therefore did not understand the requirements a person should have to hold that office …
Start working now to defeat all the Dems and all the RINOS in 2010 and then again in 2012 …
It is the only way to save our country …
We must have elections not popularity contests to select the leaders of this great country …
A sign of things to come?
Those Flags look ridicules, what a flippin Gag Fest. barfffffff.
You know, this entire election and soon to be presidency of Obama has really kind of freaked me out a bit. It’s been a bit terrifying and disgusting and disappointing how a man with no experience and an extremely corrupt political career gets elected with the help from the obviously leftist and seriously biased media who never once did their job in investigating this man.
Top it off with the way some people fawn all over him, practically worshipping him. Or how about the way the man actually seems to worship himself?
People can whine all they want about Bush and I didn’t agree with everything he did but he was a humble man who was trying to do his best for this country. I can’t imagine what the media would have done if Bush had been on the flag or said half the crazy and stupid things Obama has said.
I fear for this country. I really do – we have now gone down a road that looks a lot like the roads of fascism in our world’s past. You like to think America is stronger and better than that but it is obvious it is not. The attack from the left, the communists and the socialists on our society and our schools has come full force now and we are seeing what happens.
I just hope Americans wake up and are able to look past the man’s skin color and realize what a joke he is so he doesn’t get elected again in 2012!
BRADEN, you can also take your flag to most firestations, they will take care of disposing of it for you. OR, you can keep it for awhile, you might have a need to fly more than one flag and a good tried and true friend flying never hurts. We have a couple in the closet that have flown for years, I find it hard to get rid of them. I hope you are also shining a light on your flag at night!
One thing we all have to remember. With all of this nonsense comes expectations. Remember the lady who knew Obama was going to pay for her house, gas bills and groceries?
This Obamaination is to me the equivalent of the “dot com” or financial bubbles. It WILL pop! When I look at Obama’s cabinet and his proposals, I have every confidence that reality is going to smack people in the face like a shovel. At that point the media will either have to jump off the band wagon for what’s let of their finacially tanking lives or try ad prop up the Naked Emporer to his cold, hungry, unemployed subjects.
Despair not. Our time is coming.
unfortunately . . .
§178. Modification of rules and customs by President
Any rule or custom pertaining to the display of the flag of the United States of America, set forth herein, may be altered, modified, or repealed, or additional rules with respect thereto may be prescribed, by the Commander in Chief of the Armed Forces of the United States, whenever he deems it to be appropriate or desirable; and any such alteration or additional rule shall be set forth in a proclamation.
Desecration of the flag is not illegal anymore, don’t you remember we have freedom of expression now. What a crock!
Yes, definitely. My hackles have been up since early in the campaign.
Obama’s face everywhere and no sign of our Mayor Sheila Dixon? She must be out spending gift cards!!!
Just think third world dictators with their face planted all over the place and you’ll understand where this is all going. All I can say is, arm up, ammo up, and most of all pray up.
FamilyMan and DesertLover I agree heartily with both of you of the clear and present danger the affirmative action president is to this nation. This country will be in deep Kim chi pretty soon with the worst of the Clintonista’s taking control of the Executive Branch. All his talk of a new Declaration of Independence, the US Constitution being a flawed document (scary as hell from a so called constitutional scholar), and the talk of a new Constitutional Conference on the horizon is too much of a coincidence to not be part of the well planned long term liberal agenda to turn this country into the former Soviet Union.
We continue to lose in the ballot box due to run away voter fraud (thanks to ACORN), lose more and more of our rights and the morality this country was founded on (thanks to the ACLU), our children know hardly anything about the founding principles of this nation (thanks to the NEA and PTA), and our elected officials no longer listen to those that elected them. The constant assault on the Bill of Rights by the liberals will continue as we lay at the mercy of Justice Kennedy depending on his whims on how the SCOTUS will either support or throw out the intent of our founding fathers.
We are just about out of options following the rule of law to defend our Constitutional and God given rights we all respect as good conservatives. I fear this shallow vain man that won the “American Idol” presidency will further divide the population until those of us that believe in self reliance and personal responsibility are forced to stand and fight or roll over and submit to the tyranny of the lazy entitlement society and the limousine liberals that support them.
I don’t see myself as having sour grapes as much as being a realist and patriot that fears for the future of his country. As for myself give me Liberty or give me Death!
ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒE (mo-lone lah-veh) Translation: Come and take them!
it sounds good, but you presume we’re dealing with rational, logical people. this isn’t the case. Think of most of these obamaites as cultists who will slavishly follow obama no matter what. anything that goes wrong will be blamed upon republicans, white people, business owners…KULAKS…you get the picture….
what you knew as the USA is over, done, finished. it ain’t coming back. we are now the USSA, and our integration into the european union is just a matter of time…
Well said, Boomer. I am in complete agreement with everything you wrote. I believe that we who hold to founding principles need to keep a sharp eye on what will be going on the next few years, and not give in to the feelings of helplessness.
MM’s work here has been of great encouragement to me, as has the opportunity that posting here has offered in “meeting” many of you true blue patriots.
I particularly like that we are talking about the heroes of 1776 lately!
Fulfilling the role of Betsy Ross, is nbc’s Andrea Mitchell -
Didn’t somebody in congress recently (this week)propose to get rid of the 22nd amendment? If that happens, there might not be an election in 2012. This flag is only continued proof of the slippery slope our nation’s leeches have taken us. Who’s in charge of the revolution and how do I sign up?
Well said, and it is possible. I just pray you are right!
shimauma2 …
That particular Democrat has submitted the same bill before … in fact it was also in a bill submitted by a Republican during the Reagan years …
I would rather see someone submit a bill to limit the terms / years of service for senators and representatives … but that isn’t very likely to happen …
http://www.metaphoria.us/FlagPatriotism/BushFlagSweat1.gif
http://www.newciv.org/pic/nl/artpic/195/407/bushsignsflag.gif
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_92fTdZ1MEDk/SKXIy-fQLqI/AAAAAAAAAH4/awtwyZFCsko/s320/bush-flag.jpg
http://www.nancarrow-webdesk.com/warehouse/storage2/2008-w32/img.290883_t.jpg
Next come the uniforms.
Good morning Boomer. It’s good to have a break form the snow up here in northern Idaho, but not to here about a new Constitutional Conference.
Can you verify that for us?
I ask again, where are the luminaries of our time? More and more people are willing to be the grunts. Leadership is needed.
FamilyMan the following is a couple of links on the new Constitutional Conventions progress:
http://www.americanpolicy.org/more/battle.htm
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2151814/posts
http://www.newmediajournal.us/staff/l_roth/2008/12202008.htm
ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒE (mo-lone lah-veh) Translation: Come and take them!
Wake up people, this country is moving toward totalitarianism and communism. It’s time to dump the useless Republican Party and form a viable activist party to counter this extreme threat to our liberties and our freedoms.
Gag me! This is sickening. After 8 years of the constant Bush bashing and now the continuous suck up the He-who-can-do-no-wrong, the country has lost all sense of reality because of the MSM’s propaganda machine. By the time everything is said and done, we will have no concept of truth or reality. How “happily everafter” will we be after another terrorist attack? I guess we won’t have to worry since we will all be poisoned by the Obamadrug induced coma produced by the coming administration. All hail the new world order.
Thank you Boomer. I had no idea it had gone that far.
How does Idaho stand in the vote for a Constitutional convention?
I’d love to be able to buy rolls of two-ply toilet paper with The Messiah’s visage on it. Would be the perfect political statement.
FamilyMan I wish I knew. Sounds like we need to send a couple of letters or e-mails off to our State legislators to find out their stand on this issue.
ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒE (mo-lone lah-veh) Translation: Come and take them!
I’ll do the same.
How about if Bush was a smoker? There would have been no end to the hysterical outrage! After the election, I pointed out to an Obama supporter that Obama gets a free pass for his smoking habit. The guy indignantly said there’s no way Obama smokes, because if he did, he’d be publicly crucified for it. Well, those media crucifictions are for Republicans only. A couple of weeks later, there were a few media puff pieces (sorry) about which method Obama would use to quit smoking. Sure enough, there was no mention of what a bad influence he was being on children.
Hell, George H.W. Bush couldn’t even say that he disliked broccoli without getting a media attack: “He’s being a bad influence on the children!!!”
House Bill
It has been introduced by a NY Congressman. Probably won’t go any further, but is still pretty sickening.
With the statement under the picture…”Wipe This”. I think it would be fun to sell that at the inauguration. Free speech and all that.
Later it occured to me that this is how he created a sense of his own life, by creating myths about his father especially and other aspects of his formative years because he had such tenuous and scattered personal roots. He made up his own personal mythology and that same tendency has been played out in his perpetual campaigning. Now he’s dragging the whole country into his delusions.
I will be on an airplane on Tuesday and will be bringing a deck of cards to play with my grandson. I have a brand new deck of Ronald Reagan playing cards I will enjoy using! Each card has a quotation from him. I plan to read each one and somehow keep the faith!
Excellent thought. I still have my mother’s paperback of that. Need to dust it off and revisit.
Did anyone see Chris Wallace this a.m. interviewing Nan Pelosi? She is such a twit! She kept interupting him before he was done asking the question. And her constant use of the term “bipartisan” is disgusting, since it is a complete lie. She is the most partisan person in Congress. That woman is third in line for POTUS! We have really cheapened that office with the people who are in power right now. Just pray they don’t destroy our country before we have a chance to have another election.
It’s NOT that easy to change the Constitution! Calm Down!
Only the Congress or the states can actually CHANGE the Constitution. The only way to actually CHANGE it is via a constitutional amendment. Congress or the states can initiate that, and the amendment has to be ratified by a fixed number of states before it takes effect. We’ve got 27 amendments, the most recent as of 1992.
The Constitution can also be changed at a “Constitutional Convention,” but none have been done that way since the 1700s. There was a movement in the 1990s to call a Convention to make a Balanced Budget Amendment, but it never succeeded.
The Supreme Court can INTERPRET the Constitution, but can’t change it. A lot of people would say there’s not much difference between those, since interpretation that has the force of law isn’t much different than a new amendment.
For example, the 1973 Roe v. Wade decision by the Supreme Court legalizing abortion was an interpretation of the constitutional definition of a person (a “person” is someone who is born; hence aborting a fetus does not affect the rights of a person). To change that interpretation will likely require a “Right to Life Amendment,” as its proponents propose.
The President also can’t CHANGE the Constitution — he can only EXECUTE it (hence the term “Executive Branch”). But the President can choose which parts to execute strongly and which to not execute at all, so again this is often only a semantic distinction.
Amending the United States Constitution is no small task. This will detail the amendment procedure as spelled out in the Constitution, and will also list some of the Amendments that have not been passed, as well as give a list of some amendments proposed in Congress during several of the past sessions.
The Amendment Process
There are essentially two ways spelled out in the Constitution for how to propose an amendment. One has never been used.
The first method is for a bill to pass both houses of the legislature, by a two-thirds majority in each. Once the bill has passed both houses, it goes on to the states. This is the route taken by all current amendments. Because of some long outstanding amendments, such as the 27th, Congress will normally put a time limit (typically seven years) for the bill to be approved as an amendment (for example, see the 21st and 22nd).
The second method prescribed is for a Constitutional Convention to be called by two-thirds of the legislatures of the States, and for that Convention to propose one or more amendments. These amendments are then sent to the states to be approved by three-fourths of the legislatures or conventions. This route has never been taken, and there is discussion in political science circles about just how such a convention would be convened, and what kind of changes it would bring about.
Regardless of which of the two proposal routes is taken, the amendment must be ratified, or approved, by three-fourths of states. There are two ways to do this, too. The text of the amendment may specify whether the bill must be passed by the state legislatures or by a state convention. See the Ratification Convention Page for a discussion of the make up of a convention. Amendments are sent to the legislatures of the states by default. Only one amendment, the 21st, specified a convention. In any case, passage by the legislature or convention is by simple majority.
The Constitution, then, spells out four paths for an amendment:
Proposal by convention of states, ratification by state conventions (never used)
Proposal by convention of states, ratification by state legislatures (never used)
Proposal by Congress, ratification by state conventions (used once)
Proposal by Congress, ratification by state legislatures (used all other times)
It is interesting to note that at no point does the President have a role in the formal amendment process (though he would be free to make his opinion known). He cannot veto an amendment proposal, nor a ratification. This point is clear in Article 5, and was reaffirmed by the Supreme Court in Hollingsworth v Virginia (3 USC 378 [1798]):
The negative of the President applies only to the ordinary cases of legislation: He has nothing to do with the proposition, or adoption, of amendments to the Constitution.
“Informal Amendment”
Another way the Constitution’s meaning is changed is often referred to as “informal amendment.” This phrase is a misnomer, because there is no way to informally amend the Constitution, only the formal way. However, the meaning of the Constitution, or the interpretation, can change over time.
There are two main ways that the interpretation of the Constitution changes, and hence its meaning. The first is simply that circumstances can change. One prime example is the extension of the vote. In the times of the Constitutional Convention, the vote was often granted only to monied land holders. Over time, this changed and the vote was extended to more and more groups. Finally, the vote was extended to all males, then all persons 21 and older, and then to all persons 18 and older. The informal status quo became law, a part of the Constitution, because that was the direction the culture was headed. Another example is the political process that has evolved in the United States: political parties, and their trappings (such as primaries and conventions) are not mentioned or contemplated in the Constitution, but they are fundamental to our political system.
The second major way the meaning of the Constitution changes is through the judiciary. As the ultimate arbiter of how the Constitution is interpreted, the judiciary wields more actual power than the Constitution alludes to. For example, before the Privacy Cases, it was perfectly constitutional for a state to forbid married couples from using contraception; for a state to forbid blacks and whites to marry; to abolish abortion. Because of judicial changes in the interpretation of the Constitution, the nation’s outlook on these issues changed.
In neither of these cases was the Constitution changed. Rather, the way we looked at the Constitution changed, and these changes had a far-reaching effect. These changes in meaning are significant because they can happen by a simple judge’s ruling and they are not a part of the Constitution and so they can be changed later.
Popular Amendment
One other way of amendment is also not mentioned in the Constitution, and, because it has never been used, is lost on many students of the Constitution. Framer James Wilson, however, endorsed popular amendment, and the topic is examined at some length in Akhil Reed Amar’s book, The Constitution: A Biography.
The notion of popular amendment comes from the conceptual framework of the Constitution. Its power derives from the people; it was adopted by the people; it functions at the behest of and for the benefit of the people. Given all this, if the people, as a whole, somehow demanded a change to the Constitution, should not the people be allowed to make such a change? As Wilson noted in 1787, “… the people may change the constitutions whenever and however they please. This is a right of which no positive institution can ever deprive them.”
It makes sense – if the people demand a change, it should be made. The change may not be the will of the Congress, nor of the states, so the two enumerated methods of amendment might not be practical, for they rely on these institutions. The real issue is not in the conceptual. It is a reality that if the people do not support the Constitution in its present form, it cannot survive. The real issue is in the practical. Since there is no process specified, what would the process be? There are no national elections today – even elections for the presidency are local. There is no precedent for a national referendum. It is easy to say that the Constitution can be changed by the people in any way the people wish. Actually making the change is another story altogether.
Suffice it to say, for now, that the notion of popular amendment makes perfect sense in the constitutional framework, even though the details of affecting popular amendment could be impossible to resolve.
Popular Amendment
One other way of amendment is also not mentioned in the Constitution, and, because it has never been used, is lost on many students of the Constitution. Framer James Wilson, however, endorsed popular amendment, and the topic is examined at some length in Akhil Reed Amar’s book, The Constitution: A Biography.
The notion of popular amendment comes from the conceptual framework of the Constitution. Its power derives from the people; it was adopted by the people; it functions at the behest of and for the benefit of the people. Given all this, if the people, as a whole, somehow demanded a change to the Constitution, should not the people be allowed to make such a change? As Wilson noted in 1787, “… the people may change the constitutions whenever and however they please. This is a right of which no positive institution can ever deprive them.”
It makes sense – if the people demand a change, it should be made. The change may not be the will of the Congress, nor of the states, so the two enumerated methods of amendment might not be practical, for they rely on these institutions. The real issue is not in the conceptual. It is a reality that if the people do not support the Constitution in its present form, it cannot survive. The real issue is in the practical. Since there is no process specified, what would the process be? There are no national elections today – even elections for the presidency are local. There is no precedent for a national referendum. It is easy to say that the Constitution can be changed by the people in any way the people wish. Actually making the change is another story altogether.
Suffice it to say, for now, that the notion of popular amendment makes perfect sense in the constitutional framework, even though the details of affecting popular amendment could be impossible to resolve.
happyscrapper …
True …
The closest San Fran Nan has ever been to “bipartisan” is a trip to the Folsom Street Fair …
As the character on Two and a Half Men sometimes says, “I have a bad feeling about this.”
Special k I so agree.It does remind me of Nazi Germany.What do you want to bet he will change the Presidential seal to some stupid O thing and color it blue the color of the U.N.There was a few good pieces written on World Net Daily about how the world will now be put above the United States.What do you expect with such a global citizen.I still don’t believe he’s a valid U.S. citizen.Why has he sealed all of his records?I went to Target yesterday and there’s a ton of Obama children’s books,GAG!!!!! About the hope Obama brings,give me a break.If it wasn’t for the fawning media and his tons of money from illegal donations,not to mention voter fraud and us having a lame duck candidate,he wouldn’t have gotten in there.Rush was saying McCain will be the one to pass all the Democrat bills.He will be the 60 they need.If that’s the case he deserved to lose.
I think too many have willingly jumped on the bandwagon, to the detriment of this nation.
#181 i totally agree with you but, the best way for the likes of Obama’s to get elected are the problems the country face now.
Fear makes people do anything.
Hopefully his ego and lack of humility will be his downfall!
you might want to rethink that idea…several people have been arrested for flying a flag upsidedown…best to know your local climate…if you offend one of these libs you might end up in some trouble….
http://papundits.wordpress.com/2008/11/29/arrested-for-flying-the-us-flag-upside-down/
http://papundits.wordpress.com/2008/11/29/arrested-for-flying-the-us-flag-upside-down/
http://www.flagsbay.com/flag/2007/10/30/flying-us-flag-upside-down-not-sign-of-protest/
Personally I like the idea of the Gadsden flag and have one on order…will be up and stay up for the next 4 years…
Time to display the Gadsden flag (“Don’t tread on me”)! Even some are suggesting that Israel carry a similar flag as well.
I think that’s why we suddenly had a financial meltdown (if I never hear the phrase “financial crisis” again it will be too soon), extremely high gasoline prices, and other “unprecedented” dilemmas that BHO continues to remind us while he tells us how bad things are going to get. It’s like a mantra, a drum beat to lull people into believing that “this guy must know something” and he will help us.
May God help us all.
#185 mark my word gas will go way up again, under BHO. His energy secretary Chu wants it to hit $4 a gal. Except it will be an incremental increase. Chu wants a 300% increase.
I am also, getting tired of BHO regarding this financial problem the worst since the depression which it’s NOT!
I wonder if this is his way of trying to hitch his star to the FDR wagon, just like he’s doing w/Lincoln. Problem is, he’s done NOTHING to demonstrate his own convictions, only trying to make people think of those who came before him.
I know several families that have lost homes due to foreclosure, or have lost jobs/hours cut back, etc. In fact, just this week I was told my P/T job will now be cut in half.
But in each case, the people I know aren’t wallowing or whining about “the economy”, they’re looking for a 2nd job, regrouping their finances, taking their lumps, and moving on.
I think BHO wants to convince everyone to give up re “Abandon all hope, all ye who enter here.”
Then, the transformation to the New World Order will be complete. We’ll all be forever at the mercy of the gov’t., helpless and compliant, and unable to resist the degeneration of this once great land.
My family and I aren’t going to go down that path, and I’m glad for the fellow patriots that will continue to resist. But too many people are willing to give up so easily.
Everything Obama and Congress are proposing to get us out of the recession will only dig us deeper in. They are delusional to think this will work. The only thing it will do is push us closer to socialism. Oh, wait…never mind.
Nice, a fitting funeral shroud for the Constitution.
So far, Obama has offered very little, if any hope.
Just gloom and doom. What ever positive rhetoric he employs sounds like he intends on “changing and rearranging” our country into a second-class nation.
That is simply unacceptable.
We need to push for Term Limits. The Senate proves what a disaster senators-for-life are.
Another thing:
Why, if Obama is The One, are they trying to make him into another FDR? Or Lincoln?
What a wannabe. What a poseur.
Why can’t he just be himself?
He ain’t good enough. He ain’t smart enough. But doggone it, people like him anyway.
Would you like to elaborate on this statement?
U.S. Rep. Marcy Kaptur (D. Toledo) whipped the crowd up before Mr. Obama took the stage yesterday telling them that America needed a Second Bill of Rights guaranteeing all Americans a job, health care, homes, an education, and a fair playing field for business and farmers.
All the comparisons with Lincoln and Roosevelt makes one wonder:
Under the Lincoln administration, the nation went to war with itself.
During FDR’s tenure, the economy tanked and people went begging for bread. Being a hobo became a way of life.
Is this what they have in store for us? A country in poverty wracked with violence?
I’m with you, all this emblimatic crap reminds me of Hilter’s rise…his taking control of the press, the media, the schools the lives of the
GermanAmerican people. It’s getting so I can’t tell them apart.I will never understand how anyone but an idiot could not see how empty headed this Zero guy is with remarks as to how many states are there in America. Let’s see he’s been to 57(oh really), 1 to go(and which 1 would that be), but his campaign won’t allow him to go to Hawaii or Alaska. Just how many states are there, is it 58, 60 or 50 as I was taught in a government controlled school, possibly I was given the wrong info.
I’d like to get this off my chest, the crap about America’s 1st black president…I do not really give a crap if the president is black, yellow, brown, white, tan, pink, male or female, as long as they are true red blooded Americans that want nothing but the best for this once great country(headed to 3rd world status) by leading with the tools left by the founding fathers as laid out in the U.S. Constitution.
Be prepared folks, when it blows, it’s going to get ugly.
I agree, we will be inaugurating the big ZERO. He has no experience, no background except for the corrupt associates the FOX News people have been able to dig up, no birth certificate, no college transcripts. He got into power in the first place by corruption and the “Politics as usual” Chicago machine and a lot of money from Soros and questionable contributions. How in God’s name did it come to this?? I know that if some KOS Kid or Huffpo were to read our posts they would say we are suffering from ODS. They are so blind, none of the above matters one bit to them. That the highest office in this country is now going to this corrupt and empty suit is the biggest disgrace in our nation’s history. On a more positive note…in four years, I really believe the majority will have had enough!! And the little missy who thinks Obama is going to pay her mortgage and put food on her table…in four years she will be on the streets and wondering wha’ happened, bro?
Much closer to reality is it not.
#187 I believe his star hitching is his own internal belief he is not competent. Now I am not a shrink but, there must be something said when other emulate themselves after others. I belive it is a combination of his own lack of confidence and his ego.
He is becoming very much like a dictator personality of narcissism and eventually paranoia.
What I find very unsettling is that they want to repeal the 22nd and keep this idiot in office and he hasn’t even gone through 4 yrs now.
#193 I did if you read the whole post!
Definition of Abomination:
1. Anything greatly disliked or abhorred.
2. Intense aversion or loathing; detestation: He regarded lying with abomination.
3. A vile, shameful, or detestable action, condition, habit, etc.: Spitting in public is an abomination.
Yes, definitely close to reality!