Pelosi mollifies the impeachment zealots
The nutroots roasted Nancy Pelosi for refusing the join the Bush impeachment bandwagon last summer. She argued it would be “divisive” and a “distraction” from the liberal Democrat legislative agenda — incensing the Joy Behar wing of the party. Remember?
Well, now that we’re in dire economic straights and Obama is about to ascend the throne, Pelosi has apparently decided that the timing is right for the division and distraction she condemned six months ago.
Bill Sammon at FNC reports:
House Speaker Nancy Pelosi is receptive to the idea of prosecuting some Bush administration officials, while letting others who are accused of misdeeds leave office without prosecution, she told Chris Wallace in an interview on “FOX News Sunday.”
“I think you look at each item and see what is a violation of the law and do we even have a right to ignore it,” the California Democrat said. “And other things that are maybe time that is spent better looking to the future rather than to the past.”
Rep. John Conyers, chairman of the House Judiciary Committee, announced Friday he wants to set up a commission to look into whether the Bush administration broke the law by taking the nation to war against Iraq and instituting aggressive anti-terror initiatives. The Michigan Democrat called for an “independent criminal probe into whether any laws were broken in connection with these activities.”
President-elect Barack Obama has not closed off the possibility of prosecutions, but hinted he does not favor them.
“I don’t believe that anybody is above the law,” he told ABC News a week ago. “On the other hand, I also have a belief that we need to look forward as opposed to looking backwards.”
We’ll see how long that lasts.
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Hope and Change meets the Stab the wounded part of the Democratic Party.
They are quick to attack, belabor conflicts, and condemn Republicans. However, they ignore or sweep their own party’s crimes under the rug. If these dildos spent as much time at their job of governing as they do attacking, there might be a little meaningful progress in the country–and world for that matter.
If this (and investigating NCAA football) will keep their freakin hands off of my money, then I say ‘Have At It!!!’ Running around in circles with their fingers in their ears would be a massive performance improvement for
CONThe-Opposite-of-Progress.I always find it amazing when Democrats say “No one is above the law” after they obviously let Clinton skate during impeachment, making HIM above the law. Others were prosecuted for perjury in the USA that year and went to jail. Of course, they weren’t named Clinton. Nancy Pelosi, Harry Reid and Barney Frank are the three best poster children for birth control I’ve ever seen.
CantCureStupid–#3 1235h—Good point. If they stay busy with nonproductive nonsense, they will have less time to find ways to screw us.
I’m sure she wants to look into campaign financing by the big ‘O’ as well, being bi-partisan and all.
I’d just as soon pay them to stay home.
except himself, of course.
So here we are, prosecuting the Bush admin. for “war crimes”, dismantling anti-terrorism laws b/c of concerns about protecting the “free speech and privacy rights” of terrorists, withdrawing and leaving a vacuum in Iraq, condemning Israel for “disproportionate” response to attacks from Hamas…we are ripe for another attack on US soil.
The KKK, the terror wing of the Democrat party, used to lynch without trial, members of the opposition party. In fact as a many white opposition party members were lynched and summarily executed as were blacks. This differs from the lynching of the blacks, which was designed to intimidate them, keep them down on the farm working.
Nothing changes with these Democrats.
I would guess this is something Obama would pick up while he was a kid, from the military Junta in Indonesia.
I wonder will the distraction work?
Let the war crimes tribunals begin for those that had the audacity to try to keep this country safe over the last 7 years. This petty little woman sickens me to no end. What about the criminal Democrat bastards responsible for the subprime loans to bad risks and over inflated oil prices because we are not allowed to use our own natural resources San Fran Nan? The very people that have destroyed this nation’s and the world’s economies continue to point fingers at everyone and anyone instead of taking a good hard look in the mirror for who is responsible.
ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒE (mo-lone lah-veh) Translation: Come and take them!
A lovely street scene from Nancy’s hometown. (Warning: Language)
dang Socky that was absolutely disgusting….I’ve now completely lost my appetite….
That sword cuts both ways. ROFLMAO
Just like the Fairness Doctrine. Can you imagine equal Conservative Time on PBS? Or Rahm Emmanuel being prosecuted for his misdeeds while running the White House Big Show? (Big House White Show? LMAO)
Pelosi Galore just reminds me of monkey music that plays in the background of the circus tent. She is as bereft of brains as she is political vision.
If i see one more screen shot of her and the “chiiiiiilllldren” I am going to lose more weight involuntarily.
I loathe this retard more than I loathe the Commander of Cheats himself, or his fugly wife.
ewwww.
Just like one of those “coups” in Africa and Asia; a takeover of government and then the prosecutions (kangaroo courts) of the prior leaders begin. I thought we lived in the U.S…. I guess not anymore. Even the democrats have to accept blame for the past, but not in this “new” country anymore.
Boomer … If I looked like Botox Nancy and a few of her liberal followers I wouldn’t want to get anywhere near a mirror …
Posted in the wrong thread:
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In a perfect world Bush would change his name to Emmaneul Goldstein.
Most moonbats wouldn’t understand, and those that would have no shame.
Leftist Myths of Iraq
Glad to see they have nothing else to do this year. Maybe Bush can order a blanket party for her before he leaves office.
The day will come when after over reaching they will be in the position we are. If they want to set a new precedent for majority conduct, let them. We will follow thier precedent….in spades.
– former Navy General Counsel Alberto Mora
Saddam wanted to help Bin Laden
Putin says Iraq planned US attack
Better link to Saddam offer to Bin Laden for asylum from British Guardian
And this simply shows that Former Navy General Counsel Alberto Mora is an idiot.
Actually, this is actually good news, potentially great news. If these show trials serve to distract the democrats from their agenda — and folks, despite what some pseudo-cons are saying, these people are playing for keeps – then we should, indeed must, do everything possible to encourage them in their justice circus.
I am having a bad case of CRS this morning. Someone please tell me what Saddam’s last name was?
Hussien. Its a very common name it seems
As Cassandra said in her blog (Villanious Company), and I reminded Ms. Pelosi:
By All Means… Let’s Not Close the Book On Torture
Of course, that means we’d have to go after Al Gore and Bill Clinton for their crimes against humanity:
In 1995, the U.S. orchestrated the capture of Gama`a leader Tal`at Fu’ad Qassim, also known as Abu Talal al-Qasimi. At the time of his abduction, Qassim was living in exile in Denmark, where he had been granted political asylum. Qassim was thirty-eight at the time of his abduction in Croatia in September 1995; he had been traveling to Bosnia to write about the conflict there. The Croatian foreign ministry told his wife, Amani Faruq, that Qassim had been expelled for violating Croatian residency laws.[62]
Richard Clarke has written that the decision by the U.S. government to take Tal`at Fu’ad Qassim into custody in 1995 was stirred by a recognition within the Clinton administration of the seriousness of the threat posed by international terrorism. Clarke refers to Qassim’s capture as a “disappearance.”[63]
Clarke also states that, unbeknownst to the U.S. government at the time, Qassim and other foreign Muslims fighting in Bosnia were part of al-Qaeda.[64]
Before his forced transfer to Egypt, Qassim was allegedly questioned aboard a U.S. navy vessel and the handover to Egypt took place in the middle of the Adriatic Sea.[65] Qassim’s case is the first known rendition by the U.S. government to a third country with a record of torture.
The Qassim case marked a first of sorts for the Egyptian government as well. Its handling of the Qassim case complete disappearance, refusing to allow any access to the individual, either by his family or his lawyers would be repeated many times in the years to come. After his return, the Egyptian government refused to answer questions about his whereabouts, and denied his attorney, Muntassir al-Zayyat, access to him:
I didn’t seem him. I don’t think that anyone managed to see him, except for security of course. And those who carried out the execution…We heard about [his abduction] as soon as he was kidnapped. But we didn’t know where he was.[66]
In what would become standard procedure for renditions to Egypt, the Egyptian government also refused to release any information on Qassim’s case:
Yes, we did present an official request. We also presented a request to the prosecutor and the ministry of interior. We asked for information about his arrest, and we asked for access, but as usual we didn’t receive any reply.[67]
Because Qassim had already been tried and convicted in absentia by a military tribunal in 1992, he was not retried after his return to Egypt. Instead, the death sentence that he received after that trial was apparently carried out. He is believed to have been executed by the Egyptian government.[68]
After word of his death in custody leaked out, the Egyptian Organization for Human Rights asked the Egyptian government to at least confirm his death. According to Hafez Abu Saeda, the secretary-general of EOHR:
We asked the government to tell us what happened, to answer whether or not he had been tortured to death. We had received information that he had died in custody. They never responded.[69]
Much better than Guantanamo Bay.
In July 1998, Albanian and U.S. agents made their move. In all, five alleged militants were captured, and one was killed in a shoot-out with Albanian security. The four captured militants, Ahmad Ibrahim al-Sayyid al-Naggar, Shawqi Salama Mustafa, Muhammad Hassan Mahmud Tita, and Ahmad Isma`il `Uthman, were questioned by U.S. agents and then handed over to Egypt’s SSI.[72] In the same month, the CIA reportedly also rendered a fifth suspect, `Issam `Abd al-Tawab `Abd al-Alim, from the Bulgarian capital Sofia to Cairo.[73] Two of the rendered suspects, `Uthman and al-Naggar, had previously been sentenced to death in absentia by Egyptian military tribunals in March 1994 and October 1997 respectively.
Once the five men were returned to Egypt, they were all kept incommunicado, away from other Islamists then being tried. “These guys [the returnees from Albania] were kept in villas, the ‘ghost’ villas, we called them,” said Zayyat.[74] All were held for an extended period in incommunicado detention before the trial, without access to their attorneys or to family members. “We saw them at trial,” said EOHR’s Hafez Abu Saeda, who defended some of the returnees. “We were not allowed to see them before that.”[75]
The trial, featuring 107 defendants, sixty of whom were tried in absentia, began on February 2, 1999.In court, the five returnees showed no visible signs of torture or ill-treatment. Despite the lack of physical marks on the men once they arrived in court, their defense lawyers insisted that they had been abused. “They told us in court that they had been tortured and that their statements were coerced. But the court did nothing about this,” Abu Saeda said.[76] Muntassir al-Zayyat, who also worked on the case, said that his client, Ahmad Ibrahim al-Sayyid al-Naggar, “told me that he was tortured inside one of these villas.”[77]
Some of the returnees owed their very appearance in court to the discovery that they were being held in villas outside Cairo. According to al-Zayyat:
Al-Naggar was in that villa for nine months, [even] while the case was going on. Then the news leaked that he was here, and some of the other defendants bumped into him at the State Security Bureau.[78]
All five of the Albania returnees were tortured, according to the Egyptian Organization for Human Rights. Al-Naggar was blindfolded for much of his detention period. At one point during his detention, SSI officials locked him in a room with dirty water up to his knees for twenty-four hours. During his stay in SSI headquarters in Lazughli Square, al-Naggar was tortured during interrogation. His hands were tied behind his back and his feet were shackled as security agents applied electric shocks to different parts of his body. Al-Naggar told his lawyers that his confessions were torture-induced.[79] The court did not order an investigation into the allegations of torture, and sentenced al-Naggar to twenty-five years in prison.
Ahmad Isma`il `Uthman was returned from Albania a month later than the others, on August 13, 1998. According to the EOHR, during two months in incommunicado detention, he was both beaten and subjected to electroshock during interrogation by SSI agents.[80]
`Uthman and al-Naggar were executed on the morning of February 23, 2000, on the basis of their earlier convictions and death sentences by military tribunals in 1994 and 1997.[81]
The London-based Islamic Observation Center, an organization that tracks the treatment of suspected Islamist militants, reported that Shawqi Salama Mustafa was held for several weeks in a room filled with water up to his knees, and he was also subjected to electroshock during interrogation. His interrogators tied his legs together and suspended him from the ceiling several times, and also dragged him from room to room with his face to the floor. The security forces also threatened to rape him during interrogation. Mustafa received a twenty-five year sentence.[82]
`Issam `Abd al-Tawab `Abd al-Alim was held incommunicado from July 13 to September 12, 1998. During his sixty-day detention, `Abd al-Alim was allegedly beaten by his interrogators during questioning. He received a fifteen-year sentence.[83]
Muhammad Hassan Mahmud Tita spent just under two months in incommunicado detention, and finally appeared before the Prosecutor General in mid-September. He told both the prosecutor and his lawyer that he was subjected to electroshock on several parts of his body while being hung from the ceiling. Tita was sentenced to ten years in prison.[84]
In all, 80 of the 107 were convicted, and nine were sentenced to death in absentia. Among those handed death sentences in absentia were Ayman al-Zawahri, his brother Muhammad, and `Abd al-`Aziz Musa Dawud al-Gamal, who was among those transferred from Yemen in 2004 as part of the Egyptian-Yemeni swap for former Yemeni Brigadier General Ahmad Salim `Ubaid.
Yes, compared to the Egyptian system, our military tribunals have been a farce. George Bush can’t even seem to produce a conviction or a trial-in-absentia, let alone a decent execution. This is clearly no way to run a kangaroo court.
The first news that Muhammad might be alive came on February 28, 2004, five years after his forced transfer to Egypt, when the London-based daily al-Sharq al-Awsat broke the story that he was still alive and being held in the Tora prison complex. The report was accompanied by a recent photograph of Muhammad.[96]
The Egyptian Minister of Interior, Habib al-`Adli, confirmed the news in a press conference on March 4, 2004. Minister al-`Adli also announced at the conference that Muhammad would be retried in front of a military tribunal.[97]
After the government acknowledged that Muhammad al-Zawahiri was in custody, it allowed members of his family to visit him in detention. The first visit took place on March 18, after repeated requests by Muhammad’s family.
During these visits his family learned that Muhammad had been tortured. Mahfuz `Azzam told Human Rights Watch that Muhammad’s sister, Heba, a doctor by training, noticed that Muhammad had trouble shaking hands. Heba also saw scars on his wrists, and noted that his feet were swollen. She concluded that the marks were a result of being hung from the ceiling by his wrists.
Although Muhammad could not speak freely in front of the prison guards who monitored all of his visits with his family, he asked his mother to make a formal request to the Prosecutor General for a forensics exam. He wanted one to be done as soon as possible, before the marks on his body disappeared. His mother presented the formal request to the government on August 4, 2004; the family has yet to receive any response from the government. There was also no response from the government to Muhammad’s separate request to be examined by a forensics expert.
In April 2004, Mahfuz `Azzam managed to win his first and only visit with his nephew. The visit lasted only a few minutes, and the entire conversation took place in the presence of the SSI liaison officer in Tora prison. In those few minutes, Muhammad briefly conveyed to his uncle glimpses of the torture and ill-treatment that he had endured:
He stayed for four years and half in an underground detention facility run by the mukhabarat, where he did not see sunlight, and could not distinguish between day and night. The interrogation and torture went hand in hand. He lost hope in seeing the sun again.[98]
After four-and-half years, Egyptian intelligence handed Muhammad over to the SSI, which detained him for six months, either in their main headquarters in Lazughli Square in downtown Cairo, or in their new citadel-like premise in NasrCity, an eastern suburb of the capital.
Despite allowing his family some access to him, the government otherwise gave little ground on Muhammad’s due process rights. Notwithstanding repeated requests from Muhammad himself, the government refused to allow him access to an attorney. It also refused to clarify his legal situation, which, given that he had been sentenced to death in 1999, was a matter of some concern. According to his lawyer, Mamduh Isma`il:
Even after the Ministry of Interior announced that they have Muhammad al-Zawahiri in custody, I went to the military judiciary committee to get information on his whereabouts. But they told me that they haven’t yet been officially notified that he is in custody. This is still the case today.[99]
Muhammad’s legal defense remains paralyzed by the government’s refusal to set the wheels of the legal process in motion:
The security services should notify the court that they have him, and then I have sixty days to file a petition on his behalf. But I can’t do that because the state security hasn’t notified the court, and so they haven’t contacted me, even though the newspapers are flooded with stories about him.
This is a big problem. He is in a serious legal situation. He has been sentenced to death by a military tribunal, but they have put all of the legal procedures aside.[100]
For Muhammad, the legal limbo has created a sense of uncertainty. “He wanted to know his legal status: is he going to be retried or not? Is he going to be executed?” asked Mamduh Isma`il. “But I couldn’t tell him anything. We are just waiting for the state to act first, so that we can respond. But up to now, it’s been a dead end.”
His uncle shared the same concerns about his nephew’s unclear status. In his view, no branch of the Egyptian government will do anything on the case, despite their legal obligation to do so:
If you go to the military tribunal which sentenced Muhammad and you present a complaint, and say that this sentence was based on an unconstitutional article, and should be overturned, then the military tribunal would just reject us. If you go to the Prosecutor General, you’ll get the same result… If you go to the Prosecutor General and ask for a visit, he will basically say I don’t know anything about this. So where should I go?[101]
As a result, Muhammad al-Zawahiri does not know if he will ever be allowed out of prison, or even whether or not the government will carry out the 1999 death sentence, still hanging over him.
For once, I agree with Dahlia Lithwick: this changes everything we know. After all, as Al Gore remarked,
‘That’s a no-brainer. Of course it’s a violation of international law, that’s why it’s a covert action. The guy is a terrorist. Go grab his ass.’” ”
Oh dear. You mean she didn’t want that uncovered?
Is it possible that trials in absentia, torture by electric shock and death sentences carried out by kangaroo courts are actually more forgivably than keeping someone in a chilly room and humiliating him?
Apparently so. It just requires an infinitely flexible urban viewpoint. Or is it just an incredible amount of cynicism?
Because anything: torture, murder, violations of the so-sacred international law, are acceptable if the right people are in charge.
Posted by Cassandra at 02:45 PM
I wonder if our (ahem) Republican nominee, John McCain, is going to reach across the aisle and help this process along.
As for the RNC, ARE YOU PAYING A-FRIGGIN-TTENTION???
Let me spell it out for you:
You CANNOT expect to play on a level playing field with Democraps. They lie.
Clue
Pillosee: Impeachment is off the table – Impeachment is off the table – Impeachment is off the table. Oh, we control everything the the balless Republicans can’t stop us? NEVERMIND
FOR GODS SAKE – WAKE UP!
Oh, I forgot, the Republican party is dead. My bad.
Democrats want to criminalize Republican policy. So what’s new? Of course Democrats will settle for Cheney, Rove, Rumsfeld, etc. spending $millions on defense lawyers, whether they can get them charged for perjury or anything else.
The GOP should just ignore the congressional inquiries. That would force them to take them to court.It would end up in the Supreme Court and it would be tossed out.
Dont play ball with the dems hold their feet to the fire.
I, for one, would love to see this happen.
not.holding.breath
The big problem with that counselor, is that when you are dead because you have “protect(ed) our values”, it does not do you a lot of good does it? Unless it is some schmuck who should have stayed in college, gotten a decent education, and become a lawyer and/or politician like yourself and Jon Carrie, et. al., who is doing the protecting of your valueless buttocks.
Liberals are such feminine hygiene products. Think Massengill……
Just try to come and get Bush, or Cheny or Rove or any one else for that matter. I won’t stand for it.
Agree, completely ignore them. Let every issue be settled by the courts. Congressional hearings are nothing but political gamesmanship and accomplish no useful ends. If an individual should find it useful to appear then they should stand on the 5th. They should give that gaggle of fools no ammunition to use against them.
Oh the GOP should use its congressional members to ridicule the democrats at hearings but otherwise come in combative and dont come in feeling the need to placate the democrats.
No one is above Nana’s laws except for people who don’t pay their taxes. Those people get put in charge of the Treasury.
To paraphrase a thug in Urkels administration, I doubt the surrendercrats would “allow a good crisis to go to waste”.
They would use these hearings, and their buddies in the media would carefully select sound bites, to rewrite history any way they wanted.
While the masses were absorbed in hearing the evils of the previous administration, the surrendercrats would be quietly passing whatever socialist legislation they wanted.
No other surrendercrat crime would come up. No other surrendercrat lapse in security of the country would come up.
Only Republicans are evil you know.
I wish I could say the only good that would come of it would be that it would wake up some people in this country, and especially wake up the Republican Party, but I think both are too far gone to realize they are in the pot and the water is starting to boil.
Idiots. All of them.
Morons like Hagel, Lindsey Grahamnesty, Kathleen Parker, Bill Kristol, Brooks, and all these others that have been labeled conservative by the media will never understand they are nothing more than useful idiots being used by a party that only cares for their own power.
They want a banana republic?
Could this be the spark that starts the fire which separates the gold from the dross? Could this be the New Shot Heard Round the World? Yes huhwhat, it may well be up to US. May I beg, plead and beseech that we do not wait too long and I be too old or gone. Could Nancy Pelosi be the Left’s Major John Pitcairn of “Throw down your arms, ye villains, ye Rebels, Disperse!”
I have been waiting to get at these bastards since my return from Viet Nam so many years ago; oh yes Revenge is Best Served Cold.
This past election cycle is full of coulda-shoulda-woulda’s. Don’t get me wrong, I agree with you completely.
Michelle got it right may months ago:
No “gumballs”.
Clean your own HOUSE,Mad-Damn Speaker, before you set about destroying another institution!
This “thing” and those in her party who claim that “America’s Prestige” in the world has diminished under G.W. Bush should consider what a witch hunt, and kangaroo court would do to the world view of the United States.
Why is it they refuse to look at evidence of mis/malfeasance from those in their own party, but insist on pursuing evidence of “possible” wrong-doing with members of the opposition, when there is, in fact, no proof of illegality in the first place?
Pelosi is the best the Dems can offer. A San Francisco Bimbo without a clue of how things work in the real world. She and her husband have stolen millions from the American Taxpayer. She and her cronies in the government arena have done everything possible to destroy our nations economy. Now she wants justice?
The democrat party, no truth, no justice, no facts, no fair, no equal, and not a clue what to do next other than create a smoke screen for their own crimes, misdeeds and the punishments they are about to serve up on the American Taxpayers. They are incapable of governing therefore they must ‘rule’ through a smokescreen of blame in order to hide their shortcomings and misdeeds from others.
They had better enjoy it before they destroy it, as their heads will be the first upon the chopping block of public outrage after the next terrorist attack.
Their cluelessness is most evidenced by the fact that a major terrorists strike will most likely occur in a densely populated democrat stronghold and it will be their voting block that will suffer the consequences. Though one should take into account that they have been running every major city in the country into the ground for years and have not been held accountable, once their witch hunt is over, who will they blame then.
Funny, these idiots are against hurting the feelings of terrorist trying to kill us, but they punish me every day with their clueless stupidity. I would sue if I could find an honest lawyer.
Heck, the “leadership” of the Stupid Party (read GOP) will probably ask for a seat on San Fran Nan’s Inquisition. President Bush should execute a preemptive pardon for everyone who has ever served in his administration, including himself. That would drive the “I hate America” leftist crazy.
havok said: (#36)
Please don’t call her that. Where I come from, “Nana” is what one calls an Irish grandmother. Pelosi is NOT grandmotherly, even though her children have had children.
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ArizonaNeanderthal (#39)
Glad you came back safely. Thank you. (I missed being able to go by a couple of years–but I might be making up for it.)
Oxymoron?
Oh PLEASE, PLEASE prosecute… If the MORONS in DC are busy with JUNK like this, they can do no harm to the rest of us… That’s as close to a part time CONGRESS as we get…
Because they do not believe in policy discussions, or in backing up their own previous positions which are the same as the ones they want to investigate.
They only believe in total destruction of anyone to the right of them so as to consolidate their hold on power.
How did the Zero get 66 million votes, when Bush has an approval rating fluctuating around 34%, and congress is setting new low ratings around 10%?
Does that mean the majority of 66 million voters did not know about Congress and it’s unethical, unamerican dealings from Piglousi down to your local Dem. dog catcher? Wow! had no idea there was that many guilt riden non-reading whites that voted?
The arrogance of San Fran Nan could very well be the incendiary act that ignites this generation’s historic moment on Concord Green. I would also like to personally thank the hippy generation for their kind treatment after being foolish enough to voluntarily wear my countries uniform starting in November 1975. It is no longer if the powder keg ignites, but when now that the spoiled children of the 60s are completely in charge.
ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒE (mo-lone lah-veh) Translation: Come and take them!
I hope Obama doesn’t carry the Lincoln parallels too far.
[edit] Lincoln’s suspension of habeas corpus
Under the United States Constitution, habeas corpus can be suspended pursuant to the constitution in cases of rebellion or invasion. See United States Constitution. The Confederacy was rebelling, thus suspension of habeas corpus was both legal and constitutional– but only if done by Congress, since the Constitution reserves this power under Article I, which pertains solely to congressional powers; Lincoln, meanwhile, usurped the power under his own executive order. After habeas corpus was suspended by General Winfield Scott in one theater of the Civil War in 1861, Lincoln did write that Scott “could arrest, and detain, without resort to ordinary processes and forms of law, such individuals as he might deem dangerous to public safety.” After Chief Justice Roger B. Taney attacked the president for this policy, Lincoln responded in his First Message to Congress in December 1861 that an insurrection “in nearly one-third of the States had subverted the whole of the laws . . . Are all the laws, but one, to go unexecuted, and the government itself go to pieces, lest that one be violated?”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Constitution_is_not_a_suicide_pact
Shucks. I think the 21st would be a great day to start impeachment proceedings!
Subpoena the Hawaiian Gov’t to release his true birth certificate.
Considering that the US Congress is giving up any oversight of the Obama Administration It shows the democrats priorities
Hopefully Speaker Pelosi will be reminded that we are a civilized society with a civilized Constitution. Promoting this notion of prosecuting crimes from the previous administration
is reminiscent of a dictatorship or a tyrant. This type of behavior is not a part of a representative republic. Grow up, Nancy, and act like the responsible representative that your constituents deserve.
I hate her.
I hope Pelosi threatens to prosecute George Bush after his massive joint Israeli – American strike that destroyed Iran’s nuclear facilities on January 19, 2009.
Sorry…. just dreaming.
When will Pelosi be investigated?
What happens if every past-president is investigated for every burp and fart?
Pelosi is betting that Republicans, etc. will be more civilized than she and her buddies are.
Excuse me Durangodarlin…
Grow up, Nancy, and act like the responsible representative that your constituents deserve.
Nancy and responsible representative don’t belong in the same sentance.
Nancy and responsible representative is an oxymoron.
SirKnob… get a grip…it’s for the children.
Nancy told us.
I just finished watching here interview with Chris Wallace on “FOX News Sunday.”
She didn’t answer a single question with a direct answer.
GOD!!!! I hate politicians.
Hate is not a strong enough word
$#$%^$& and ^%*&^$^ and $&^&*^&$#%^*( and *(*&*^&*^&ing Pelosi
FamilyMan: Keep this up and, you will need a stronger keyboard. Type a string of symbols and, save them to notepad. Then, you can just copy where invective is desired.
Ask, and ye shall receive wisdom…
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Thanks Jeff, I’ll need to remember that for the next four years.
Conyers comes off as mentally challenged to me. Not that his constituents would notice. Obviously he looks like a genius to them considering how many times they’ve re-elected him.
How dare this man of low intellect demand judgment on Bush Admin patriots.
What a f***ing douchebag! The onion-skinned, plastic faced c*nt!
When the f*** will America wake up?
The consequences of this election will be phenomenal.
That’s a stupid statement. This kind of political nonsense only keeps America’s eye off the ball (terrorism).
These are most dangerous times, and the inmates are truly running the asylum.
So Bush is doing cartwheels to ‘help the transition’ for the Ds and as USUAL he is getting stabbed in the back while he’s helping them!
WHY, WHY, WHY do Rs keep doing this?
GAH!
The Rs have battered wife syndrome… when are they going to figure out that there is no bipartisanship for the Ds and the Ds are not their friends?
In this case, Bush has manners and he uses them. He is able to rise above the petty politics.
Yep, Pelosi and crew will have their kangaroo kourt to kick the
b@lls@ass of the GOP and the msm will hang of their every word.The GOP haven’t had b@lls in awhile.
We’re screwed and only us conservative bloggers give a $hit.
Not to hang my hope on him, but has anyone seen/heard Newt in the last 60 days? For a while, he was in front of the cameras more than the Dems.
does ACORN fraudulent voting, buying votes, busing voters in from other states to shelters, etc count to put us in that status….oh and let’s not forget all the lawbreakers in Congress making laws for us to follow…yea I’d say we’ve been there for a while…
If I understand propertly, Congress is the legislative branch. Can they acutually prosecute anyone?
One of the things Stretch wants show trials for is the firing of a few US attornies.
Recall, Bill Clinton fired every Reagan or Bush appointed US attorney, so he could replace them with political allies, and nobody seemed to care then.
Voters have given Democrats decent marority and one party rule in Washington DC.
The opposition RINO are in total disarray and clueless.
Great opportunity for the Sociocrats to solidify their power, given the voter sentiments.
Fortunately for us, the conservatives, the fools are wasting time on an out going Presidency.
Unfortunately, the remainder of the time they have on hand, they will be spending on their pork projects, in the name of economic recovery.
Rumor has it, Conyers. Pelosi et al actually think that besides pleasing the MoveOn.org America hating wing of the party, dragging this out to 2010 will remind Americans why the Republicans lost in 2006 and 2008.
They forget an elderly candidate not particularly loved by the base of the GOP, and outspend over 8 to 1, lost by a smaller margin than, say, McGovern or Mondale.
Let them get drunk on power and have show trials. If (big if) they haven’t ACORNized the vote to ensure they win all the close races via fraud, ala Franken and Gregoire, this may come back in a big way to haunt them.
If they do monkey-wrench the electoral process, well, they can do what they please. Obama can perform the first national gay marriage on the Washington Mall after supervising the public execution of both President Bush’s, and ban the practice of all religion but Islam, and still win an election Jimmy Carter would certify as fair.
BTW, as a preview, after being tossed from power by a US supported counter-insurgency, the Sandanistas in Nicaragua lost election after election, until the last ones in 2006. Mid term elections in 2008, the Organization of American States, the EU and even Jimmy Carter were refused permission to monitor the elections, the opposition claims massive voter fraud, but apparently, now that they are back in, the Sandanistas are apparently in power until the next revolution.
Ideologically, I don’t Obama and Oretga-Saavedra are much different, and I’m not sure our ‘Democrats’ are any better than the Sandanistas.
ErinF: See above post for rubber keyboard.
I’m sure you folks remember the Oliver North show trial…I think they were jealous that he had a hot-looking secretary.
More like Stockholm Syndrome. The democrats have been holding them hostage and terrorizing them for eight years. Now, they’ve fallen in love.
NOOOOOOOOOOOOoooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!
Please, PLEASE, if there is a God in heaven, PLEASE give us term limits and IQ tests.
On a brighter note, I am more than happy to watch the new president crash and burn so that we can get back to capitalism.
Also
I would like to remind the new president that he is an AMERICAN, not an AFRICAN AMERICAN.
If you doubt me, you can email me and I will tell you about AMERICANS who put their country first and their ethnicity second.
Semper Fi to those who love their country first, and never ever forget what this great nation means to us first and the rest of the world second.
Is Michelle moderating comments now or is the Democratic machine deleting my nice posts?
No one is above the law, unless they are a Liberal.
He has always been well-mannered, that is not in dispute.
He needs to realize he is dealing with sewer rats though, if not for his own sake, for the sake of those who willingly served under him.
How many are going to have their life savings wiped out by trumped up charges or hearings? How many will be politically prosecuted?
How many RINO’s will come to their defense?
It doesn’t matter with this bunch. All they need are charges, and some poor schmuck will be going broke trying to defend against them.
I wonder how long it will be before we bloggers are “investigated”….
I imagine our names are already in red somewhere.
Question for the group: are members of the Bush administration above the law? If there is evidence that Rumsfeld knowingly ordered an illegal act, should he be tried?
Maybe perjury about consensual sex is more serious than torture?
Do you really think you can lecture us on someone being ‘above the law’ and then use Bill Clinton as your anti-example?
What a maroon!
Don’t you need that little thing called ‘Evidence’ in a court (or impeachment). Or is Queen Nancy going to do away with the rule of law too?
This from a man who just this morning quoted an old line from a Bugs Bunny cartoon (or was it Tom and Jerry) on another thread?! Uh-boy!
Today’s the only time in history LGM got something right.
It IS all about REVENGE, isn’t it?
Damn the country, ethics, morals, honor, integrity, all things the left is seriously lacking, just get revenge for impeaching a lying cheating pres clinton.
Right? LGM?
Will you all feel better then?
Nope!
You will all just have to direct your hatred of everything somewhere else.
The Dems and the entire left will never understand the “OFFICE of the Presidency” because they don’t understand what honor and integrity really are.
Godless! Coulter is right.
If she really believed this, why would she wait until after Obama takes office to do anything about it?
Could it be because it’s less about any adherence to the law and more about political posturing? If she had a case, she would have made it in order to shame the administration then, right? If it was so clear cut, then why did she dally? Could it because she knew that it would fail?
Pelosi only gets tough when she feels she can completely silence the opposition. So long as there is someone with the ability to oppose her, you get these mealy-mouthed sorta-maybe statements to appease the far left.