Honeymoon’s over: Democrats start grumbling about Generational Theft Act of 2009
It’s dawning on a few fiscal conservative Democrats that Obama’s Generational Theft Act of 2009 is a bad, bad idea.
NC Dem. Rep. Heath Shuler makes his misgivings public:
Shuler, who twice voted against the $700 billion bank rescue and the bailout of the Big Three automakers, said he could support a stimulus package only with certain assurances.
“This can’t be a Christmas tree,” Shuler said. “It can’t be the pet projects of the House and Senate.”
Shuler said the money must go toward infrastructure construction and the expansion of broadband Internet access throughout the country. The bill should focus on job creation, he added.
“We want people to work,” he said. “We need to be building bridges. We need to be laying infrastructure.”
But Shuler said the price tag of the stimulus package is high, and he is concerned about returning fiscal responsibility to Washington. He is a member of the fiscally conservative Democratic Blue Dog Caucus and was recently elected whip of the group.
Democrat Sen. Kent Conrad is also grumbling:
Senator Kent Conrad, a North Dakota Democrat, said his committee projects the plan will reduce the unemployment rate by “maybe” 1 percent, or about half of the 3 million jobs Obama has said the plan would generate.
Let’s hope more Dems can help change the course of this juggernaut.
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Shortest honeymoon in history. But it is all we Americans can afford these days.
Well that didn’t take long. 10 to 1 they will reverse this after a quiet discussion with pelosi and a 2 by 4 in the leaders office.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IleiqUDYpFQ
You can’t fool all of the people all of the time, not even in your own party.
Testicle lockbox slamming shut in 3..2..1
I am probably not the only male who cringed at that.
Only 30 minutes left for Obama supporters Gates and Buffett to step in to the market and save capitalism!
Obama sworn in, dow drops below 8000, nobody except the obamabots suprised.
CNBC….Stocks drop because of bank woes. Wait a minute! Wasn’t this inauguration day?????
An interesting analysis from NumbersUSA also shows that allowing current immigration policy to remain intact during our economic downturn, would essentially nullify any actual increase in jobs in the US. Plus there is no guarantee that those that end up being hired (as a result of the stimulus spending) would actually be Americans!
If we import 2.5-3.0 million people in the next year, why would ‘adding’ 3 million jobs even matter???
Also, IIRC, ND Senator Dorgan (one of a select few of reasonably good senators – IMHO…) voted AGAINST the FIRST TARP bailout and has shown little enthusiasm for the next one.
Headline: Tide reverses course 12 hours after Obama becomes President.
– cycle likely to repeat says Obama expert
SeniorD, thats funny!
Yeah.
The Inauguration must have really caught Wall Street by surpirse.
I think we, as in true conservatives, should become more aware of Heath Schuler. I know there’s a D next to his name, and that presents some clear problems, but he is a man of faith and principles, and clearly isn’t afraid to stand up for them.
obamas president now chap. The buck stops there.
I am watching Wells Fargo stock drop like a rock. It has fallen about 65 percent this year. And supposedly it is the healthy bank.
I have little doubt this “recession” will make the Great Depression look like childs play.
TARP =
Totally
Asinine
Redistributive
Pussbucket
Nonw now, Obama wasn’t sworn in until 12pm. So by your logic only about 3/5 of the market fall off can be attributable to him.
BO will stumble on all the tough decisions…
Today we became one nation again together. The poor weren’t lifted as promised. Those with a little savings had it removed to noone’s benefit. Glad we could all get together behind our new President. Where is the nearest breadline?
Chap, he is president at the close of business. Its on him now.
It could be his kick ass treasury secutary, you know the one who can’t handle his own taxes???
The market started it’s fall the day Obama polled over 50%!
How Obama can help the economy without spending a dime
Are these people complaining because they mean it or because they want bigger earmarks for themselves?
The act will pass. The question is, will anyone in Washington manage to get anything cut from it?
Doubtful but not impossible.
Buy on the rumor, sell on the fact…
Best finacial advisor ever was the one who said, “Sell everything now. Obama just took the lead in the polls!”.
*Fiscal conservatives in Congress will need the Heath Shulers down the road; It will be a tug of war between them and Pelosi over the next 2 years; Shuler has a bill to make E-Verify mandatory that Pelosi continues to keep from the floor and certain passage; He is good on the issue while Pelosi is an advocate for illegal immigration; Disgusting!
The few people who took that word of advice still have their “greedy” gains. The rest of us will have to resort to frivolous lawsuits to survive. But that’s not greed, it’s just getting what is owed us. Hooray for the Democrats and their trial lawyer supporters!
More massive overspending is not what we need right now. Or ever. STOP THE SPENDING!
This is only GTA 1.0
They are Democrats, they will all fall in line soon. When this comes to vote, 100% of the Dems will be in favor of GTA 2.0. We call it PORK and it works every time. Hell, it only took $150 billion in pork to get CS 2.0 passed. How much do you rekon it will take to get his $trillion GTA passed? $500 billion? The sky is the limit and we have plenty of trees and ink.
Micheleeroo:
Borrowing your way out of debt ALWAYS works right????
DOW down 4%. Yay obama, sorta.
Blue Dog democrats are quite useful sometimes.
Yeah, it looks like Conservative Dems will have to lead the way on this. Republicans have little leverage. A coalition looks in the offing maybe?
Man, forget retirement, if this Change thing keeps up we will all be eating tree bark by the end of the year.
Senator Kent Conrad, a North Dakota Democrat, said his committee projects the plan will reduce the unemployment rate by “maybe” 1 percent, or about half of the 3 million jobs Obama has said the plan would generate.
Infastructure jobs (roads&bridges)in Texas are done mostly by non English speakers.If it is the same in other states I don’t see where the jobs are going to be.Besides it is dirty and dangerous jobs that not many want to do.
Democrats are willingly stupid. Those supporting Democrats are willingly stupid.
Example: Democrats and their media supporters were disgusted and outraged at the money spent for Palin’s outfits used during the campaign even when she donated them to charity. These same people have no problem with the money being spent on today’s Obama celebration. That’s being willingly stupid.
What happens to this country over the next four years is exactly what these people deserve. The socialism that will dominate this country is what you voted for. Unfortunately it will impact those of us that have brains and use them.
Conrad is my senator. I’ve met him a couple of times and liked him, personally. However, since this whole bail-out thing, I’m begining to have a whole new respect for him.
Soon we will all be equal. But rather than raising the poor up into the middle class we will all settle at the bottom together. I call it trickle-up economics….like trickle up morality… or trickle up civility. We have a lot to learn from the downtrodden.
There will be only two classes: the government and the poor.
There’s only one problem with the democraps having a majority…. they don’t know how to get along with anyone, even themselves.
As I pointed out over at HotAir, it is nothing more than the re-institution of slavery. Just in time for the inauguration of our first mulatto President. Rather ironic, isn’t it?
The truth of the matter is that Americans no longer HAVE a country. They are owned lock, stock, and barrel by the Chinese, Russian, and Arab investors that are financing the Federal debt. We are ALL slaves now — and we will continue to be slaves for the rest of our lives. Furthermore, our children, grand-children, and our grand-children’s grand-children will most likely be slaves for their entire lives as well. Welcome to the “age of Obama”.
My collie says:
There were 47 of the Blue Dog Dems in the 110th, many, even most, like Loretta Sanchez, are clearly not moderate in any way and are only members because they are not from safe Dem districts. (Sanchez won her seat from Bob Dornan through heavy voting by illegal aliens).
The Dems have an 78 seat majority in the House, every Blue Dog could vote against a Pelosi bill and it would still pass.
The ‘Blue Dog Caucus” is mainly an excuse for Dems from non-safe seats to act like they are moderate. But it is impossible to be in the caucus of Nancy Pelosi, the party of Barak Obama, the party of NARAL, NOW and the FOCA, and be anywhere near a moderate.
CyberCipher:
And I am sure that the clintons getting money from the arabs is no issue either….
Edit 47 in the new 111th.
Schuler may be the rare exception. I personally can’t see how any real Christian can support the ‘right’ of a woman to kill an inconvenient baby resulting from irresponsible sex. ( I can see real Christians having legitimate debate on abortion for incest and rape, but not abortion on demand). Bob Casey Jr is allowed to pretend to be pro-life because his vote doesn’t matter, and I suspect if he were the tie-breaker on a real threat to Roe (not in this Senate, obviously), he’d vote with his caucus, like other nominally ‘pro-life’ Dems like Harry Reid. But while the GOP has quite a few willing to “reach across the aisle” in the spirit of bipartisanship, and some genuine ‘moderates’, some moderate enough to deserve the designation “RINO”, there are no “DINO”s. Liebermann was a solid liberal vote on every issue except the war, and he was barely allowed to stay in the caucus.
BTW, although difficult for the mother, even the babies conceived through rape did nothing to deserve the death sentence. If their presence would be a painful reminder of a painful event, they could be offered for adoption. My personal view on that matter.
The Blue Dogs, so many of whom ran as conservatives with a D, are not going to please with the hard left agenda of Queen Nancy and Obama. And their constituents will not like it, either. They could become a big thorn in Nancy and Barry’s sides.
Hopefully. Because I don’t see that many Republicans growing cajones any time soon.
Missing the point, the Blue Dogs oppose this because most of them pretend to be moderate because they represent moderate (not safely Democrat) districts. Some, like Conrad, may be smart enough to realize a ’stimulus’ bill that only makes the economy worse can’t help their chances of winning reelection, most realize it will pass will little change but will have plausible deniability in having made loud noises and even voting against it.
Every Blue Dog can vote against Pelosi with 100% Republican support, and Pelosi still has the votes to pass whatever she chooses, and Obama will not veto anything she sends up because it is too big, liberal or socialist.
I think the Dems have a big enough lead in the Senate as well that a couple of ‘moderates’ won’t get any Pelosi bill changed substantially in conference.
Honeymoon is over Barry, have fun.
The honeymoon is not over. There will be token opposition from within his own party, but Pelosi and Reid have the votes to pass anything they want.
I have to agree with what Ed said. To sum it up, all that matters is who runs the show now that Pelosi, Reid and Obama have a sufficient majority to not have to make any compromises (not that Pelosi and Reid let that limitation stop them in the last Congress). The reason why it never did work for the Republicans is that their “moderates” always were at least in contention for leadership and were more often than not in leadership.
On the other hand, the Democrats did fracture once before after gaining complete control. Indeed, they fractured so completely that they induced the only House vote for President since the 12th Amendment with no help from a second party.
As for Conrad, his current “opposition” to the Generational Theft Act is that it includes a tax “cut” (shift, really), not that it is too socialist. The bottom line is that, when push comes to shove, he’ll vote for it.
Kent Conrad grew a spine and complained about someone other than a Republican?
Wow!
Heads up for those flying pigs.
Hat-Tip to Andy Borowitz.
http://www.borowitzreport.com/article.aspx?ID=6978
I hear Kennedy had seizures at the luncheon. I don’t like the man but I hope he’s okay. Personally, he needs to retire. They even had to escort Byrd out too. Now there are 2 men who really should consider going home to the rocking chair on the porch. Maybe we haven’t quite gotten to Kennedy’s dream of a socialist state, ruled by a Kennedy, yet.
My only question: Why were the markets open today, at all? Should’nt they have been watching the Coronation, ahem, Inauguration instead.
With Kennedy, and Byrd out…Temporarily that means there are, 56 dems, and 41 republicans ? Check my math…
Now, they need 4 republicans to pass cloture.
Actually, they’re still at 99 at the moment, Jeff (58 D’s and S’s, 41 R’s):
- Hillary Clinton is still the junior Senator from New York; John Cornyn blocked the voice vote for her confirmation as Secretary of State. There will be a roll-call vote tomorrow, however, and at that point, she’ll no longer be Senator.
- Edward Kaufmann (D-DE) has assumed Joe Biden’s seat.
Since cloture requires the vote of 3/5ths of those duly sworn in and not necessarily 60, the Dems will need but 2 members of the RINO half of the bipartisan Party-In-Government either before or after Clinton’s departure (3/5ths of 98 is 58.8, rounded up to 59).
Shuler’s in trouble and he knows it. He was recently elected to replace a longtime Republican (Taylor), and serves a fairly conservative WNC district. If he can steer to the right of the Dems, he may keep his constituents happy. If he gets lumped in with the Lefties now in power, he’s toast in the next election.
Ya know…. some people in D.C. pay extra for that
Here is a must read about group fantasy.
It’s like back in the day when I was in school. Those were the years before Advanced Placement or Gifted Leaders or other advanced classes.
My school district decided to test a socialist program and place all the smart kids with all the ‘below average’ students thinking it would make the ‘below average’ kids smarter.
I cant say I ever translated my knowledge to any other student other then 4 kids that sat around me. However on the other hand, it slowed the pace of all my classes down so much, that I wasnt properly prepared for college and by the 10th grade I quit caring about school. (so I went to night classes at the local community college)
Havent we learned by now that socialist programs never raise the average….
Well I guess Pelosi was wearing the wrong negligee.
How is that for the wrong image of the day?
Wow…..
Yeah, it’s pretty obvious Shuler is going to run for Senate in 2010.
Wasn’t that Vitter’s thing?
In 1992, Clinton was elected because the talking points went out, and any surrendercrat in the country was bleating about our “failing infrastructure”.
Bubba gets in office, and he’s only interested in the intern infrastructure, but the libs are happy since he’s one of theirs. I don’t recall hearing anything more about infrastructure once he was elected.
Bush gets in office, money was provided for infrastructure, yet the surrendercrats in many states raid the money and p1$$ it away on anything other than roads and bridges. Think Katrina. ‘Crat governors were raiding road budgets all over the place and roads and bridges are still crumbling.
Money for infrastructure?
I’ll believe it when I see the orange cones
Can we trade McCain to the Democrats for Conrad? Please?
Merely a rumour.
I feel gypped… You mean, since Obama’s coronation Osama Bin Laden didn’t surrender? Israel and the Arab-world didn’t shake hands and say “good game”? The DOW didn’t shoot above 10,000 upon the words “so help me God”? Why wasn’t there someone at gas station wanting to pay for my gas? Where’s my bank statement saying I owe nothing on my house? Why don’t I have a bag of groceries waiting on my doorstep? Did I miss something? (/sarc)
Obama is no messiah. Jesus Christ is the Messiah. We don’t get another one. There will be no recount. God is God.
Okay…but to be fair, he has not yet instituted sharia law, Fox News is still broadcasting, Bush and Cheney have not been arrested for war crimes, no Catholic church has been forced at gun point to perform a gay marriage and Bill Ayers is not Secretary of Defense, so maybe both sides should cool it with the silly hyperbole, hmmmm?
We’ve spent eight long years listening to you guys call Bush “Chimpy McBusHitler, the Emperor in Thief and Shredder of the Constitution”.
Calls for restrained and moderate language on our part will get you laughed at.
Hmm.
You’re right. The truth is bad enough. Who needs hyperbole when we have: the Freedom of Choice Act; his views of
redistribution of wealthsocialism and the U.S. Constitution; his view that “we cannot continue to rely on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives that we’ve set. We’ve got to have a civilian national security force that’s just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded”; his $845 billion Global Poverty Act; his plans to disarm this country; his appointments of woefully unprepared and, in some cases, dishonest people to key positions of his administrations (i.e. CIA, Sec. of State, Sec. of Treasury, etc.); his ideas for a $1.2 trillion “stimulus” package (has Keynesian economics ever worked?); his pushing for gays serving openly in the military; his pledge to bankrupt the coal industry; his ideas to fix the fictional notion of Global Warming; and Biden’s call for support: “And he’s gonna need help [when a crisis hits]. And the kind of help he’s gonna need is, he’s gonna need you – not financially to help him – we’re gonna need you to use your influence, your influence within the community, to stand with him. Because it’s not gonna be apparent initially, it’s not gonna be apparent that we’re right.”?Not me. I don’t have thousands of rounds of .22LR ammunition for the .22 rifle I don’t have to not hunt rabbits and squirrels. I didn’t fight my way to the top of the food chain to graze with the prey animals. We’ll eat at my house. We don’t do soup lines.
ECS
Been awhile since two celebrity congressmen actually got it right.
If the Dems in congress can mitigate the size of this Crap Sandwich, that’s probably the best we can hope for, since the Repubs have become lapdogs.