Here’s your jihadi recidivism
This morning on Fox & Friends I talked about President Obama’s Gitmo closure plans and the perils of jihadi recidivism:
As an exclamation point on my argument, read this:
The emergence of a former Guantánamo Bay detainee as the deputy leader of Al Qaeda’s Yemeni branch has underscored the potential complications in carrying out the executive order President Obama signed Thursday that the detention center be shut down within a year.
The militant, Said Ali al-Shihri, is suspected of involvement in a deadly bombing of the United States Embassy in Yemen’s capital, Sana, in September. He was released to Saudi Arabia in 2007 and passed through a Saudi rehabilitation program for former jihadists before resurfacing with Al Qaeda in Yemen.
His status was announced in an Internet statement by the militant group and was confirmed by an American counterterrorism official.
“They’re one and the same guy,” said the official, who insisted on anonymity because he was discussing an intelligence analysis. “He returned to Saudi Arabia in 2007, but his movements to Yemen remain unclear.”
The development came as Republican legislators criticized the plan to close the Guantánamo Bay, Cuba, detention camp in the absence of any measures for dealing with current detainees. But it also helps explain why the new administration wants to move cautiously, taking time to work out a plan to cope with the complications.
Almost half the camp’s remaining detainees are Yemenis, and efforts to repatriate them depend in part on the creation of a Yemeni rehabilitation program — partly financed by the United States — similar to the Saudi one. Saudi Arabia has claimed that no graduate of its program has returned to terrorism.
“The lesson here is, whoever receives former Guantánamo detainees needs to keep a close eye on them,” the American official said.
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ObingoDingoWingo has a national security policy based on national suicide.
Whatever happened to keeping enemy prisoners locked up until the war was over?
Wow. What a surprise this isn’t.
A couple years ago I was mortified to receive in the mail propaganda from Amnesty International. The entire letter was a diatribe against the Bush administration and particularly the existence of Gitmo, demanding for Gitmo to be closed. As luck would have it, one of the very first articles documenting the return rates of Gitmo detainees to terrorism came out that very day. I printed out a copy of the article, placed it in the postage-paid Amnesty envelope and sent it back.
I don’t think I could have come up with a more appropriate response.
War? What war? Do you mean the law enforcement action that is targeting the misguided, economically challenged, Islamic Youth Movement who targets anyone who is not them?
Didn’t you notice today, that our new Prez no longer refers to our fight to against terrorism, as WAR? Before long, they will no longer refer to the “opposition” as terrorists. I mean, how can they, since they think a “law enforcement” approach is the way to handle any attack on civilians, or our military by persons NOT wearing uniforms of a state military?
The D’s and the Liberals have no freaking clue.
They are operating on the touchy/feely like they do most subjects.
It is one thing to lock up a bank robber or a murder. Those acts happened INSIDE our Country.
Terrorists do things TO our country.
A whole different set of rules should be applied.
WOW!
ObingoDingoWingo
The Bear is a poet!
Murtha and Obingo are idiots.
Ony two days old, and already the Obama administration seems committed to failure. Treat terrorists with kid gloves, they show up again to bomb your embassy. Is that “false choice” really so false, Barry? Is that why you’re waiting a year to close that nasty base down? Remember the Pentagon says 61 released have gone on to resume their fight against the U.S. The official figures are 18 confirmed, 43 suspected, but even 18 is too high. As long as we keep our moral standing, future generations can write it on our collective epitaph.
BTW, great appearance, I’m glad they had you on F&F.
OMG…. Last night I told my teenage daughter about where illegal immigration is going and how we will probably be subjected to amnesty in some form pretty soon.
Well, at school today, she told a couple of her friends about it. I guess the friends freaked out and word spread around the school.
Her Social Studies teacher actually tracked her down in another classroom period at the end of the day and confronted her about whether it was true that she told everyone about illegals. The teacher then told her she was misinformed and obviously misunderstood what Obama’s policies are….
The teacher then handed her a stack of printouts to read and said she should go to WHITEHOUSE.GOV to research the correct information!!!!!!!
Well, he did say he’d side with Islam, should it come to that, right? If this is a first (that a candidate makes good on a promise made before he’s elected), then it’s a damned scary thing we’re witnessing. The only way I even half-way consider the closing of Gitmo a wise move would be if BHO had enough sense to send them to another Third World detainment center, where they’ll be treated like the swine they are. But why do I have this strange feeling that the majority of current prisoners there will either be allowed due process in the US (in which case, they’ll be dismissed on some technicality), or will just be set free, either as appeasement for some Middle-East saber-rattling or because we just (conveniently) won’t have any rooms available at the inn here. While the MSM seems to be lauding this as a noble and human act by #44, it has the potential to endanger hundreds (if not thousands) of American civilians’ lives.
Though I must say I’d be all for closing down this facility if they promised to break free from political correctness and just start killing these bastards before they even have a chance in an American court to claim that their rights have been violated in some way.
Just fyi, she loves the teacher so theres no animosity involved. Actually between their friends, the running joke is that if the teachers are pi$$esd off about something, then the teachers have probably run out of weed. Friggin libs.
This is a location where even the cops admit that 75%+ of all teenagers who are stopped for traffic violations have weed in the car. (And we are in the white-bred suburbs….)
Too bad so many American Soldiers had to die, so terrorists could be freed….
yeah, that’s sarcasm.
I predict a 2nd mass exit by military men and women, as it was when Clinton assumed office. None of us wants to needlessly die
forbecause of ignorant Liberal ideology.I’ve got 20 years now…….I think I’m done.
I say its time for the libs to start an ‘Adopt-A-Gitmojihadi’ buddy program.
All the Dems and nutroots can sign up for a timeshare and then every few days/weeks they ship their buddy off to the next lib for a few days/weeks… and then so on until we run out of libs. If the Jihadi ever gets away or commits a criminal act, then the lib can pay the price for it instead.
Its win-win all around. Im sure the jihadi will be singing kumbaya and burning patchouli in no time.
Hmmm, maybe we can start a Jihadi foreign exchange program too! A lib can go live in Yemen or Waziristan for a year (as a muslim even!!) – and a jihadi can come live with the libs family!
Again, if the Jihadi ever commits a criminal act, then the lib can pay the price for it instead. (now that I think about… which of the two will actually be alive at the end of the year?)
What a spit in the face to all American’s,especially the 911 families.His most important order of the day to be all lovey dovey to the Gitmo detainees,but we must slaughter the unborn.
SSG David Medzyk said:
I don’t blame you…but a liberal US gov’t still needs troops to perform its policies…and since androids aren’t availble…the new military will have to have the new immigrants fill the jobs…now imagine the jihadis really give us a black eye far worse than 9/11…does anyone expect these new soldiers to obey our constitution, since many of them grew up not obeying our laws in the first place? The vacuum you allude to is scary.
I am just beside myself. NO ONE could POSSIBLY be as stupid and blind as the moron that is now occupying the White House. When I saw that he actually signed this order, it was then that I knew the Truthers have won. Stupity reigns supreme in this country, and the children of those that fought and died in Europe and in far off beaches and islands, fighting off tyranny and oppression, fighting so that this country could live and be free have spit on the graves of their fathers, have dragged their sacrifices through feces.
They have lived a life where they knew nothing of sacrifice, where because of all their parents had to go through, to sacrifice through the Great Depression and WWII, they were spoiled rotten and made to believe that the world owed them, that the Government was there to provide for them anything and everything they wanted, and through the LSD and pot filled haze of their youth to believe that simple hugs and “conversation” was all that is required to keep this country safe. It is them and their idiocy that was allowed to flourish in the 60′s and early 70′s, that was allowed to be glamorized in film and television, and now they have completed that which they could not do in their youth.
Now that those who lived and sacrificed through those dangerous times of the 30′s and 40′s have all but died off, leaving the “Hippies” and “Yippies” in charge with no one to contain them and keep them from making the very mistakes that lead to the rise of despots like Hitler, Mussolini, and Hirohito, they are going out of their way to do everything they can to destroy all that has made this country what it is.
They have been raising their children to no longer believe in a Higher Power, to not have any form of courtesy, and to not know the meaning of “Hard Work”, to believe that this country and it’s government is merely here to make sure they can have their computers, video games, and that they will walk right into a 6 figure a year job without having to work for it.
And worse, they are all but giving the keys over to…with an engraved invitation…to the very enemies that have vowed to see this country laid to waste. They have elected to the Presidency a man who is the epitome of everything they stood for in the 60′s, and have brainwashed their children to believe that anyone who serves their country, who believes in hard work, paying their dues, who believes in God and the family…a family that consists of both a mother and a father who are married and who live together, etc. are the real fools, the real enemy. Those are the ones to be ridiculed and despised.
This FOOL did not even know what the hell it was he was signing. He had to ask someone what the content of his order was. Are we to believe that he is the one running things? How could anyone actually believe he is in charge, when he has to ask what is in his own Presidential Order.
An Order that he signed to close down the place housing the “worst of the worst” terror detainees without a single plan as to where to place them before they shut it down. He sits there, looking like mommy just praised him, asking if there are provisions, claiming they will figure it all out in the next year.
Well Congratualations Liberals, Democrats and all the rest of you who either voted for him or who did not vote at all. It is not even 48 hours since this fool took office and he has already demonstrated how completely lost and ignorant he is concerning National Security, how soft he is on The War on Islamic Aggression and opening the door to future attacks, lighting the “green light” for Islamic Terrorists by demonstrating that the sheriff left town and no one will be watching or doing a damn thing to stop them.
I hold all of you responsible. Congrats. When they attack next, you will be the first ones who complain that “not enough was done to prevent it”. Well, you only have yourselves to blame.
That would work if the primitive screwheads were being held as POW’s, which they are not.
Give it a catchy name and turn it into a reality TV show.
How many more Americans are going to have to die for these liberal nimrods to get a clue?
Every time I hear how a liberal supports our military I just want to grind my teeth! You don’t do something like this (close GITMO) and say with a straight face (oh, I’m sorry that’s what Murtha and Obummer are doing) that they support our military. I don’t know how the millions of Americans who voted for this clueless wonderkind can reconcile such a decision with reality.
It’s pretty clear that except for a dwindling number of people in this country, the rest would rather sacrifice their own country’s safety and that of the military just for some freebies and reassurances from The One. These people aren’t living in the same world I am.
God, my military husband can’t retire soon enough. I’m tired of him putting his life on the line for an ungrateful nation.
Obummer & Murtha, you can kiss my @ss. You don’t care about anybody but your own tender liberal sensiblities. The innocent lives of the 9/11 victims and our troops overseas don’t matter.
I agree, Michelle. Put them in Murtha’s district of “rednecks”. Don’t put them in mine. Personally, I think the Mojave desert would be a good place for them. But then, their “rights” might be considered violated. If I was SSgt. Medzyk, I would seriously consider retirement. I can always go back and double-dip.
A great appearance by Michelle Malkin–very good presentation of the Gitmo facts.
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She really looked nice–normal hair style, conservative dress, happy personality. Fox News seems to have very good makeup artists for those who visit there–or Michelle did a very good job.
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Too many ladies overdo the makeup, dress, and hair styles–to me it seems to make them look less attractive.
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John Bibb
“Atlas Shrugged”
Honestly, I’m not sure if many of the R’s have a clue either.
The R’s last presidential candidate didn’t get it nor do all of the R’s voting to approve any and every last one of Obama’s cabinet positions.
Dealing from a position of weakness seems to be the preferred approach these days by most politicians.
Note – this is NOT the conservative position – we prefer dealing from a position of strength.
Excellent points Michelle, would have loved to watch the second segment.
The law enforcement angle the socialist democraps are taking now has been proven ineffective in the past. Repeatedly trying an approach that has failed in the past is insane. The socialist democraps will not be convinced until another act of terrorism strikes our Country. God help us.
As for the people of Johnstown, those who voted for the traitor Murtha, as you said, they deserve who they voted for. No sympathy from me.
Already Obama is pushing for Israeli suicide.
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/7cf745dc-e8ce-11dd-a4d0-0000779fd2ac.html
The problem, of course, with a law enforcement approach, is that it is generally ex-post: the crime has to have happened. That isn’t all that reassuring when the “crime” could cost many lives. Besides, our current “law enforcement” regime seems to be in a bit of a mess as it is, and doesn’t appear to me to be capable of handling the complex intelligence requirements of anti-terrorism.
I don’t think that most people realize that it will be impossible to try most of these jihadists in a normal civilian court, which means that they must be either returned to their country of origin (and you know how much the libs hate “rendition”) or released in the US without further action. It isn’t a joke that some of them will end up in our neighborhoods – it’s a terrifying reality.
I also don’t think that most people have thought through the implications of extending our constitutional (and/or court-originated) rights to the entire population of the planet. That has unimaginable implications for the battlefield.
Judging by the elections, I don’t think most people have thought through much at all.
Yes. The protection of our Constitution is for Americans, and especially should not be extended to those whose aim is to destroy the very society whose core is that Constitution.
It’s hard not to hope that our armed forces quit with the prisoner-taking charade and just kill all enemy combatants on the field.
I thought this administration was about “Change”? So why is it so entrenched in rules that were written for conflicts and wars that happened under entirely different circumstances with different players. Barack likes to quote historical Americans, so why not actually learn a little from the history of this country as well. First and foremost, is that we fought a war to become a country (we now fight one to sustain it). However, one of the primary reasons we won that war, was that we changed the rules! We didn’t march in straight lines and shoot at the other side. We adapted to the conditions that would help us prevail. Additionally, we became a country because we perservered! We saw it through to the end. This is an entirely different type of enemy and conflict. We started the adaptation process and Bush was getting results! Now we need to finish it within whatever time frame it takes!
Does anyone have a clue what the Geneva Conventions allow for these prisoners? Being caught on the battlefield attacking soldiers without uniform or identification and hiding among civilians puts them in the category of spies and partisans. They don’t get a trial, they don’t get a cell, they don’t get a Koran. They get a bullet in the back of the head.
And another thing: Once a Marine always a Marine?
I hereby revoke Jack Murtha’s status as a Marine. Letters have been sent to the Marine Corps Legion AND the Salvation Army. Jack is now officially JANE: Just Another Navy Ensign.
Sorry Jane, the Marines is reserved for vertibrates.
We are beginning to see Obambi’s “Hope and Change”…hope and change the enemies of the US can believe in, that is.
Excellent post.
Absoutely dead-on accurate.
Colt: The original point and click interface.
We are on are own to a large degree.
Yes thats true, but remember that one prisoner, who is interrogate properly, could be worth hundreds in the bush.
The only good jihadi is a dead jihadi. The only thing better than a dead jihadi is one who tells you where to find his mates.
President Barack Obama urged Israel on Thursday to open its borders with Gaza.
He wouldn’t want the the bombers and such to get hurt crossing under the fence now would he? Despite the Jews in his Administration and those supporting him BHO is returning to his muslim roots in anti-Semitism.
Borders? That would mean people can be a sovereign nation and that is NOT part of the New World Order.
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Colt: The original point and click interface.
That is just part of the problem. The locals in Murtha’s district vote for him based on what he can do for THEM. Not what he can do for anyone outside of their district.
If my LOCAL guy/gal brings (promises) in millions of $$$ into my home town and that $$$ migrates into my personal pocket either directly or indirectly then that is where I cast my (i.e. them) vote. That is why Murtha keeps getting re-elected. It is a LOCAL issue for the voters not a NATIONAL issue.
International and Palestinian monitoring? Sounds fair. No way there will be cheating!!!International probably means UN, I feel better already.
They have already been caught smuggling in war related goods buried inside pallets of humanitarian aid.
DUH
Are feeling the love?
Are we all warm and fuzzy inside now?
I feel so hopey and changable.
Say this out loud.
Obama is the Commander in Chief of our military.
GOD! THAT IS SO DEPRESSING
P.T. Barnum would have loved Barack Obama.
Michelle, I really hate it when I miss a TV appearance by you.
Please keep us posted as early as possible of any upcoming appearences.
Thanks………
Here is a question that has bothered me for a long time.
If Obama did something really stupid, and ordered our military to action that was counter our understanding of freedom, would our young soldiers obey?
I’ve wondered about that too.
There. Fixed.
Well, one thing we learned from the Bush years is that it’s never too early to start talking about impeachment.
I knew Obomba would destroy the country during his presidency, just didn’t know he was aiming to do it all in the first few days. He’s in a big hurry for some reason. Best take cover with my Bible and gun.
The problem with the gun is that it would be aimed at our own kids.
I lost count of the number of stupid orders I had to follow. There are plenty of stupid, legal orders.
The simplest answer is that soldiers are to follow any lawful order. A lawful order is any order that violates the Laws of Land Warfare that the U.S. has signed, the Uniform Code of Military Justice, or the Constutution.
The classic example is the Mai Li (sp?)Massacre during Vietnam. The Platoon Leader issued an illegal order to execute unarmed civilians. NO ONE in his platoon should have followed it.
“Our understanding of freedom” is pretty vague. However, an order to arrest a civilian for a civil crime is not vague. It is an illegal order, because of the Posse Comitatus Act of 1878.
Interstingly in 2002 as a Senator, Biden backed giving arrest power to the military. THAT IS REALLY STUPID.
I’m also wondering…pondering…if the whole mission here may be to disarm the country, making it vulnerable enough for Islam to more easily take over. Considering the orders that have been signed in the last 2 days, what else could one assume?
You could be right, or one could assume he is a stumbling, tottering amatuer that has no idea what he’s doing.
Let us go dicker with Abbas, then Iran, then Pakistan, then Kuwait, then Saudi Arabia. What a way to get screwed. Wonder what it will take to convince people you cannot screw around with Islam. Islam is as Islam does.
There will never be another problem with captured Jihadists …
BO just signed the death warrants of every terrorist …
There will no longer be any prisoners taken …
As Mexican General Santa Anna said at the Alamo … “Give No Quarter” … and his buglers played the “Deguello” …
Did you know that “deguello” actually came from the “Moors” …It literally means “beheading” and “put to the sword”? …
Found that to be an interesting fact …
Shut up, I am living in denial…..
nah nah nah nah nah i can’t hear you!!!
If Obama is a constitutional lawyer, and who just took an oath to defend the constitution 3 days ago, just whose constitution is he defending? He’s offending mine!
Thank you Fly. I hope our kids have strong values.
I never thought I’d want a president that was mentally impaired, but I do now.
Well you can bet that if me or my guys in the army were ordered to shoot at you, we would give some trees
leadgreen bullet posioning. The safest place in the planet would be a direct line between my gun and your kids.Once the exodus begins and the replacements are new citizens/former illegals, the answer is no.
Make that yes.
That’s the legislative branch.
You are talking about an issue here that I have been thinking about. Can a order be legal, yet violate the constitution? If that were the case then it would violate the oath. I am in till 2014.
Hopefully, there’s enough like you still there in 4 years.
They will NEVER break the faith. NEVER. If there is one thing I have confidence in, it is the military’s alliegence to the Constitution.
They live in a world where their commander to include their COmmander in Chief could be gone in an instant. What they have is their oath. They will be faithful.
What’s with the do-over, re-swearing in ceremony where Mr. Transparency didn’t allow the press to tape it?
How many Presidents have had re-swearing in ceremonies?
Sonfdy,
Thank you for keeping the faith and the oath.
Drive on.
Hi, 30.
What?!?!?!
Do-over “re-swearing in”?!?!
No Bible either.
None that I know of.
Hey, granite!
Okay… here’s a little more information on the re-swearing in ceremony.
I felt safer 4 days ago.
sonofdy
I was hitching a ride on an old French freighter, going through the Panama Canal, when the Kent State shooting occurred. I have never had a feeling of being more distant from my country. It has always bothered me that our National Guard could fire on their fellow countrymen.
Thanks for the link.
According to the article, B. Hussein Obama is not the first (cannot refer to him as President) to have a “do-over” re-swearing in:
Obama:Close Gitmo within a year.
Dems:What a wonderful leader we have now.
Detainees:Hey, Mohammed, where are you headed when we get out?
Omar:Either PA or Chicago. I’ll either be an aide to Murtha or I’ll be working directly with some amateur named Ayers. Either way, I’ll take up the fight again. This new American president is sooooo gullable and worried about his image that he has taken his eye off the ball, unlike that that last guy that would crack your head like a coconut. It will be easier.
Yep.
Initially, none of the articles I read mentioned why there was a redo. Had to go searching for it.
One other note: why didn’t he allow the press to tape the re-swearing in ceremony? He’s all about transparency, ya know?
The bottom line is the American people voted for this.
It seems there are some misgivings by the press with their new Golden Boy.
Wants only official photos used.
http://apnews.myway.com/article/20090123/D95SR0K80.html
I wonder how many soldiers’ death certificates he signed with that order.
God help us.
What they voted for was this historical, in my lifetime, black president will heal the nation crap. They were no more attuned to the issues facing this country than they usually are. All they saw was his skin color and voted based on that. We’ll reap what they have sown … for sure.
I have had the pleasure of working with the fine Americans in the US military. As with society, yes, there are some buffoons. I know the liberals love to paint the young enlisted men and women as killing machines who will slaughter babies, women, and innocent civilians on command. Don’t believe the hype.
It is not uncommon, usually on a weekly basis, for their commander to remind them of US and military history and tradition. It is part of their core Honor. Many of them are better versed in what true patriotism and what the Founding Fathers knew of American values than most hard-core conservatives I know. I, being a history fanatic, have been humbled and inspired in the knowledge and analysis abilities of many of these fine individuals.
I do not fear our military, but I do fear the exodus the Staff Sergeant (thank you for your dedication to service!) warns about. If these fine individuals leave, and we fill the ranks with “true believers”, and Obama stands up his civilian paramilitary force…
…Well, history has shown us the result of this action several times.
That sounds like the beginning to a very interesting story.
Thanks, b-cat.
Uh-huh. Concerned with his public image and doing their best to make sure it stays squeaky clean. But this was a flippin’ swearing in ceremony – albeit the second time around.
Hey, 30-
There are a couple more stories on Drudge this morning along those lines.
Will anyone be surprised if we hear of an epidemic of plague or anthrax in Murtha’s district in a few years? Too bad future victims can’t be confined to the political class who make these dummass policy decisions.
Neither do I.
An old WW II veteran once gave me good advice. Never kiss a whore on the lips and don’t look the enemy in their eyes before you kill them.
If it ever came down to it, I hope my fellow countrymen can look me strait into my eyes.
You mean the current military. Changes are coming. Besides if it comes to that many of us will be on your side.
Let me just say, I didn’t waste my youth.
Well then, Here’s looking at you FamilyMan, and everyone else that feels the same.
For example, It is easy to stop an amrored thrust through the mountians as along as you are willing to spend people to do it. Hint, the weakest part of armored columns are the fueling trucks.
It was a dark and stormy night and my eyes burned as smoke from a potent Turkish sharoot wafted around my head which was pounding from the after-effects of an all-night binge of mescal, beef skirt, and pickled dove’s eggs.
RedDog, it sounds as if the after effects would constitute germ warfare, or at least “mustard Gas”.
Good to know!
RedDog is channeling Hemingway.
There is also a spot on a bradley you can hit that will cause the round to tumble through the turret. but it would take a reaalllllyyy good shot to do it. But I would not recommend trying the same tactics in a place like Kansas. Its all about the logistics yo!!!
Let me know when your neighbor’s house is for sale.
The terrorists are laughing their asses off at us!