A few questions about President Obama’s first airstrike
From the Times of London:
“Missiles fired from suspected US drones killed at least 15 people inside Pakistan today, the first such strikes since Barack Obama became president and a clear sign that the controversial military policy begun by George W Bush has not changed.
Security officials said the strikes, which saw up to five missiles slam into houses in separate villages, killed seven “foreigners” – a term that usually means al-Qaeda – but locals also said that three children lost their lives. ”
Reader John has a few questions: “Where are the anti-war liberals? Where are the baby-killer signs? Why [aren't] the major media networks showing pictures of dead children as a result of Pres. Obama’s air strike?”
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Maybe we’ll invade Switzerland next…
Now now… to be fair, the media didn’t go all that gaga on these shootings to begin with.
But I expect Code Pink to start showing up right now and start protesting.
“Those weren’t the drones I once knew…”
When the Truth is Known to Be LIES, don’t you want somebody to love, SEE OBAMA.
Somebody To Love, Jefferson Airplane.
those poor peaceful adherents of the religion of peace..just hanging out living their lives…to be MURDERED by the OBAMA tyranny…
without a trial, no due process…
its a WAR CRIME!!
Obama lied, people died. That one’s for you LGM.
A classic clintonian push-button policy. Expect Obama to conduct all his foreign policy in this manner. Simple, no ground troops, low risk, low investment. Not a tough decision. Classic Clinton. How will Hillary deal with this?
Obomba.
Obama had made this clear that this was his policy to begin with. It was predictably warped into “Obama wants to invade Pakistan! Pakistan is our ally!”
That was funny, aj.
On January 23rd, 2009 at 2:04 pm, gippergirl said:
“Maybe we’ll invade Switzerland next…”
Perchance you ‘ve found a way to fund the stimuli package.
Plain and simple because they’re hypocrites.Don’t you remember when Bill Clinton was bombing aspirin factories and no one said a word and people like Sheryl Crow were traveling around with them.
Nice shot, Mr. President. Happy hunting. A use of my tax dollars that I whole heartedly approve of.
I don’t care if the Mavericks come from the left or the Right as long as they hit their target.
Shouldn’t you people be jumping for joy over the fact that we killed some people in Pakistan?
Roger that.
warped?? by who?? sounds like you’re the one who’s warped..
link
why would we be thrilled over the WAR CRIMES of Obama?? hmmm??
On January 23rd, 2009 at 2:27 pm, Ilovemycountry said:
Shouldn’t you people be jumping for joy over the fact that we killed some people in Pakistan?
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No, but killing Al Queada . . . yes.
Couple points, though, Chap.
Did he work with an international coalition and UN before engaging in military operations within Pakistan? Was he working with the Pakistani government?
Has Reuters and AP had sufficient time to film the dead children, or will they be using the same stock footage that they use when covering the Gaza conflict?
Why were the 7 Al-Qaeda members not apprehended and tried in a US court with an overwhelming amount of evidence to prove that they were, in fact, terrorists?
Could missle shrapnel be considered a form of torture?
…you’ll have to forgive me if most of these questions sound ridiculous. I’m trying to reach into the far-left psyche.
(No, I don’t include you in that group.)
Only idiots equate sending troops in for strikes on certain targets with “invading” a country.
Bush often said he would not hesitate to send troops into Pakistan without their permission, and I seem to recall him actually doing it at least once. So if that is the standard we are going by, Obama can’t invade Pakistan. It’s already been invaded.
I can hear it now…
Yeah, but he didn’t say anything about killing children!
I guess that’s just a bonus.
15 people deserves more of a polite, golf-clap.
When Islam is wiped from the Earth completely, then I’ll jump.
Do you ever post a comment without including the words “you people”?
You’re not here to have an actual conversation. Let’s not pretend you are.
Quite right.
This is the point that liberals miss about those that support our military’s mission. We don’t celebrate death.
We do, however, believe that there are those in this world that will not stop killing innocents until they themselves are killed. While I might not celebrate the necessity of killing, I will not shed a tear for a dead Al Qaeda terrorist.
I can do that and also regret the loss of innocent life as part of collateral damage.
I care not whether they are Pakistani, Iraqi, Canadian, or American (another point missed by those suffering this new breed of post-racialism racism). If they wish to do me or my country harm, I will not weep for their demise.
So sick of left wing double standards. If Bush did it it’d be a war crime, Obama does it and its time for a yawn.
And resident leftists: pointing out a hypocritical act does not automatically mean one disapproves of the action itself, merely of the aforementioned hypocrisy.
so you wouldn’t mind the Chinese or the Russians sending a few hundred troops into our country to wipe out some people they don’t like?? sounds like you are the idiot.
he signed a secret order last july, but Obama said this before anyone knew that bush did that…and isn’t bush supposed to be the cowboy war criminal???
Chap, Bush was condemed as a war criminal for just such attacks. When will you be calling for him to be tried as a war criminal?
That’s a terrible thing to say, chapoutier, even if it is tongue-in-cheek. I suspect you do not believe this is a real thought amongst right-leaning thinkers.
If we are going to be intellectually honest, we should applaud and support The President when he does the right thing. Continuing these strikes is the right thing.
He deserves our support on this one, not our sarcasm and ridicule.
Let’s be the opposition, but not like our Lefty counterparts that found a way to criticize everything Bush did, even things they agreed with.
Actually, I think the Predator drones are armed with Hellfires.
Ilovemycountry.
I don’t get off on killing ANYONE, even al qeada. I just happen to believe its the right thing to do in some cases.
I think there were a lot better and more visible arguments that Bush is a war criminal than collateral loss of innocents. But I will not deny some loons on the left.
No, I do not. Sorry. It did seem that way.
Not funny, chapoutier. Unless you believe the part about dead children to be a lie or inaccurate (which it might be).
I firmly believe that the military/government makes every attempt to minimize these types of deaths and regrets them all.
and it is VERY risky for obama or bush to do it…but to publicize it is even crazier…talk about slapping a country in the face…you just about guarantee a reaction….
so you were wrong about someone (no doubt the vast right wing conspiracy
‘warping’ what obama said…
Just dreaming about a bigger warhead!
I support Obama on this. I’m ridiculing the lefty loons that will now look the other way.
No. I would not. But I also would not call it an invasion. But for one, I think there is more than a little tacit agreement between the US and Palistan on this matter. They have to put up a fuss to appease certain factions, but would never actually move to stop us. But even if they are peeved, okay. They have a right to be. Doesn’t mean we should stop.
Concur 100%.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H7tG7keSe-0
speaking of bigger warheads….
On January 23rd, 2009 at 2:38 pm, Salt said:
On January 23rd, 2009 at 2:27 pm, Ilovemycountry said:
Shouldn’t you people be jumping for joy over the fact that we killed some people in Pakistan?
Do you ever post a comment without including the words “you people”?
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I’ve noticed that about ILMC, too. “You people”, of course, is an indicator of bigotry: “You blacks”, “You Jews”, “You Hispanics”, “You Whites”, or, in ILMC’s case, “You People Who Dare To Disagree With Me”.
A fair point, however I would offer that we are not criticizing Pres. Obama for this, but rather criticizing the fact that radicals will not show the same energy in protesting these actions as they might if they occurred two weeks ago.
Not so sure now that Musharraf is out.
Agreed.
Not the kids – but totally in favor of killing al-Qaeda. Remember the stupid people who didn’t want to chase the VC into Laos or Cambodia? Oh, yeah, Dems. So those became safe havens. No safe havens for al-Qaeda, and I’ll give Obama props for this one. And no aspirin factory either, so he’s one up on Clinton.
Apparently, it’s no longer called the “War on Terror”.
what would you call it?? an ‘incursion’? a rose by any other name…
Chap
Are you inventing a new country?
On January 23rd, 2009 at 2:51 pm, AlohaGuy said:
Shouldn’t you people be jumping for joy over the fact that we killed some people in Pakistan?
Not the kids – but totally in favor of killing al-Qaeda. Remember the stupid people who didn’t want to chase the VC into Laos or Cambodia? Oh, yeah, Dems. So those became safe havens. No safe havens for al-Qaeda, and I’ll give Obama props for this one. And no aspirin factory either, so he’s one up on Clinton.
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Agreed 100% – and thanks for the reminder of Pres Clinton’s Great Aspirin Factory Adventure.
I think thats what they will call Alaska once Todd’s secessionist party gets its way.
You need to qualify that a bit. The “troops” were spec ops squads on a search and destroy mission(s). But you’re correct, that does not constitute an invasion. But saying Bush would not hesitate to “send troops” implies he would have considered a formal military offensive which is likely not true.
By “send troops”, I absolutely meant the surgical strike, both with Bush and Obama. That is my point. That is not an invasion.
What, no aspirin factories nearby? What the heck happened to having a minimum of 17 UN declarations (the old line in the sand BS) before committing video game warfare atrocities? Where’s the coalition? Where the heck is France?
What the heck kind of cowboy foreign policy is this?
Oh, that’s right, there’s a new sheriff in town.
Bart: [on grandstand to the townspeople] Excuse me while I whip this out.
[reaches into waistline as crowd gasps and screams; Bart pulls out paper, they sigh with relief]
Point of order:
Is it wrong to refer to special ops folks as “troops”?
I agreed as well. Excellent point and they deserve the criticism.
So how is it WRONG to waterboard detainees, but OK to kill children? I want to here Obama and the Liberals explain this.
If they are paid by DoD, they are troops.
Why wouldn’t they call it…you know…Alaska?
Obviously lgm and Ilovemycountry are racist islamophobes and support killing women and children. I pretty much expected that of them along. And I shall give his President Barack Hussein, Allah be Praised, Obama all the respect and courtesy they and their ilk gave Presidents Reagan and Bush II.
Why hasn’t President Barack Hussein, Allah be Praised, Obama released the Gitmo detainees already? It does NOT take a year to open a gate! Mr. President TEAR DOWN THAT GATE-LET YOUR BROTHERS GO regardless of what racist islamophobes such as lgm and Ilovemycountry tell you!
of course if we tried the same thing with the russians, it would be WAR, and everyone knows it…
I don’t know. I’ll ask her.
No but they think they are a little more than “troops”. They issue arrogance with the green beret…
No,no either Snomobilia or Moosepotamia.
Even though, they still get thier cars stuck in ditches when they slip on the ice (my last drill at camp williams!!!)
So what exactly is your point, right4life? That Obama should not send drones or troops into Pakistan to take out targets?
I think most people in the military would consider them troops. However, I don’t know if the word troops is stroking their “special” egos enough.
(Just kidding – all the spec ops guys I knew were freaky special.)
I get to ask her (shoves his way up in line…)!!!
I hope I did not open up a can of worms here.
President Barack Hussein, (PBUH)
we don’t want to do anything to displease the muslims
Any suggestions for the NewSpeak version?
Campaign against people subverting the Religion of Peace?
Operation Please Stop Hating Us?
On January 23rd, 2009 at 3:06 pm, AlohaGuy said:
I don’t know. I’ll ask her.
I get to ask her (shoves his way up in line…)!!!
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Image: AlohaGuy with drool on chin, tongue hanging out of mouth . . .
no one ‘warped’ what Obama said..he said what he said.
so far the pakistanis have done nothing other than complain…but if we are not very careful, it could lead to an islamicist government being installed in pakistan…with the nukes…
bush had it right…SECRET orders…don’t tell anyone…and DENY everything…
Obama was a fool to state this publicly….
and now after years of hearing how BOOOSH was a war criminal, a murderer, Obama does the same thing…in his first few days in office…but of course the libs won’t complain at all..
Operation Those SOBs Burned My Photo
Except he did say he would:
And also except after they did it, they denied nothing.
Other than that, spot on right4life.
A Predator fired a Hellfire at Bill and Hillary’s fireplace?
Yes, but Hillary’s icey stare caused a Hellfire to freeze over.
Oh oh, we need a talk there laddie……….
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ALCOHOL, TOBACCO AND FIREARMS
Should be a convenience store
NOT a Government Agency
I thought only fighter pilots got that.
It was George Bush’s fault that those missiles were fired!
Snort. You made my day.
As much as I hate Obama I am glad he will move forward with strikes like this (which is something Clinton failed to do)
Am against the stimuli pkgs, but here’s a cost saving measure: all government officials (Pres, Gov, Sens, Reps, Mayors, etc) should immediately take a reduction in salary to equal the average public elementary school teacher. Imagine the money that would be saved…
Well, Clinton did it when he had to divert attention from his scandal.
That was a darn funny Blazing Saddles reference. LOL.
So how do you feel about the airstrike, ILMC?
Air raiding villages and killing civilians – isn’t that what BHO complained about our military doing?
Never mind. It was just politics. Nothing to see here, everyone move along.
BTW, he totally promised to invade Pakistan.
OTOH, his constituency has brought a withdrawal from Afghanistan to the table. That being Khadafi. Now I feel very warm and fuzzy…
Actually, what I feel is a huge sense of dissonance. I have no flippin idea what Obama wants to do with the war.
I don’t know about the ‘racist islamaphobes’ label but I do think ‘mindless sheep’ would be a better label, because it seems even when our new President is displaying an uncanny resemblance to our former President,we only hear crickets chirping from the troll section of the audience.
in.va.sion – 1) an act or instance of invading or entering as an enemy, esp. by an army.
It doesn’t matter what you choose to call it. Words have meanings. Learn to use them.
Is that a heavily accented way of saying Alaska?
THAT would definately zap the seeker!!
DING DING DING!!!
Backwoods wins the stuffed bear!
I agree. As an actual patriot who wants what’s best for my country (without regard to who does it) I applaud anything Obama does that results in dead enemies.
However…
I think it’s perfectly fair, reasonable and necessary to point out the hypocrisy and intellectual bankruptcy of the Left on issues of defense. Each time the Obama administration does something like this I ask his groupies around my office to answer this:
For the last eight years have you been opposing policies you knew were for America’s benefit? That is, have you been putting naked partisanship over the lives of your neighbors? Or does this mean that Obama is also just like Hitler? Because the way I see it there ain’t no third choice.
It’s been fun watching them avoid answering me. If one of them ever does I’ll let you know.
Whoa. Subtle and very funny. Good one.
So Bush invaded Pakistan? Why did McCain not rail on Bush for doing so? Why did the front pages not scream BUSH INVADES ANOTHER MUSLIM COUNTRY!!!!
It is because it is stupid to consider surgical strikes to take out certain targets an “invasion.”
Behold, the Magic of Google! There are some right here. Also here and here. Amazing what you can learn with an internet search engine and 5 minutes of your time!
Don’t worry yer pretty little heads, gang. They never went anywhere. I know it seems like an eternity to you, but it’s only been three days since Obama took office. Those catchy slogans don’t write themselves, you know.
Didn’t any one ever learn that silly states’ song
What did Mississip, boy what did Missisip?
I don’t know, Alaska.
She sipped a Minnisota.
Anyone?
I’m not familiar with the song, I’ve just been around a lot of rural southern accents.