“How you can spend hundreds of millions of dollars on contraceptives – how does that stimulate the economy?”
So sayeth John Boehner at a press conference following his meeting at the White House on the Generational Theft Act of 2009.
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Liberals just here the word “stimulate” and they throw money at the idea, no matter what it is.
Kids are expensive.
hear not here on the above post.
Well paying for forgien abortions clearly helps the economy as well.
Because women who have children are a drain to the economy, according to socialists/feminists. Why “burden” with a child the productive woman who can enter workforce? Under the feminist/socialist worldview, if women don’t have to have children, then the working segment of the population just doubled. In their line of thinking, a stay-at-home Mom is a leach on her husband, society and the economy.
Apparently the idea is to get us all rutting like stupid animals, so that they can lift the wallets out of our pants, that will be hanging on the bedposts.
Maybe they meant another kind of stimulation. Or it’s perhaps to stimulate prostitution and the escort business.
Does anyone know exactly what he is referring to?
I’m not sure about the economy, but stimulate, … contraceptives, … sounds like a plan!
I’m gonna throw out an idea…what if the government gave legitimate taxpayers (those that make $125K for single filers, $250K for married filers) $250K for their use, instead of bailing out banks, auto corps, etc? I think that doing that would do more for the economy than giving it to companies and “special interests” for their use.
Can I have more Tabasco for my piece of the crap sandwich?
Chap,
Sounds like what it sounds like.
WTG lgm. You made a funny.
That many condoms will certainly “stimulate” something. But it won’t be the economy.
Soap,
I am still confused. Is there a specific proposal in the plan to spend money on actual physical contraceptives, and if so what is it, or is he using the term in a metaphorical sense?
OK, just how lazy are we getting if we need government to buy contraceptives for us. Want them delivered too? Heard that old joke from Texas? Texas A&M guys are so lazy that they even marry pregnant women.
MM, this article seems a little edgy. Or, maybe I just have a filthy mind…
Explain to me how they plan on robbing future generations if they’re preventing their births?
How about bringing up the fact that our fearless leaders in Congress are using this quote-unquote crisis to justify mind boggling government spending on stuff that’s not going to do much for the economy!
I heard this morning that Colorado Springs is requesting a billion to fund transportation projects, etc. Okay, that’s some construction jobs for a few years… then what?
How ’bout cutting corporate and capital gains taxes so employers can hire more workers? That would be more far-reaching.
Putting personal feelings ahead of wrong and right, tis the libral way.
There’s front page news.
Seriously … Barry O is clueless … the country needs lots more babies to pay the taxes to fund the boondoggle in future generations …
Take a breath…self-actuation doesn’t require contraceptives.
Why are contraceptives even necessary for progressives, when the preferred method of natal prevention is abortion?
I’m beginning to think liberalism is anti-life…that is, unless you are a Palestinian “terror” teen, then life is precious!
I strongly support the idea of democrat contraception.
Double entendre? LMAO! You have my sense of humor…likely you’re under-appreciated, also?
txvet,
I would be more than happy to have you explain it to me.
Not being sarcastic…do we know slashing corporate taxes will lead to job creation? If people aren’t spending, a corp isn’t going to hire more people just because it has some extra cash suddenly lying around. Don’t we some how have to incentivize job creation, rather than just hope for it? I have heard of a proposed tax credit to companies for every new hire. I would be curious as to if, and why, anyone here thinks this is not a better idea.
Do you recall the SNL skit with Dan Ackroyd and Jane Curtain (way back when) regarding the abortion question?
DAN: “Jane, you stupid, ignorant slut! Had I been around when you were conceived, I not only would I have paid for your abortion, I would have performed it!”
Classic SNL, when it was really funny.
To a congressman, it isn’t the stimulus package that is important. It’s what he can stuff in there (pork) that is. The bigger the package, the more pork can be safely “hidden”. More money means more votes for him, and that’s the real bottom line.
Isn’t this a chicken before the egg argument? Why wouldn’t putting that money into the hands of consumers, so that they can create demand for products be the better idea?.
The demand would necessarily create the need for new jobs to create more products to consume. Otherwise, it would be like building houses in a market than has no demand for houses. It would be money wasted.
I think that would be a good idea, too. The idea is to get more people earning, so they can buy stuff and pay taxes on their earnings. Building bridges and highways add road construction jobs for a while, but don’t do much for the larger economy.
Perhaps, if the left had emphasized responsible personal behavior over the years, we wouldn’t need so much “stimulus” for “contraceptives.” BTW, who are these “contraceptives” even meant for? If people don’t have more babies there will be nobody to pay for this ginormous boondoggle and folks like LGM will be out of a job, right LGM? I mean, there will be less people who’ll be going to college, right, LGM?
You liberals really screwed yourselves. In the end you’re no more “transparent” than the previous administration. Federally supported abortion and contraceptive giveaways instead of encouraging kids/adults to perhaps stop bedding up with anything that moves and makes them “feel good” and a broken promise already from Obummer that there would be no lobbyist in his administration (or federal government). I guess Obummer forgot to tell that Raytheon lobbyist he just hired to be the Deputy Defense secretary, right?
Transparency and responsible government, my @ss!
So you would be in favor of a personal income tax cut as opposed to corporate?
File this with things that should never be said, when talking to a man.
Do you really think a company that’s losing money is going to take on a $50k/year expense to save $3k on their taxes?
We need to get money flowing. People won’t invest until they’re confident the market won’t drop further and they won’t spend until they have some job security.
As much as they might hate it, trickle down worked pretty well in the 80s. Taxes were cut and the .gov spent tons in the defense industry. Before you knew it, we had yuppies and Duran Duran.
Absolutely. Personal income tax. That does not mean a tax credit for those who do not pay income tax. Should the congress want to go that route, then they need to cut spending on non-essential programs, and suspend FICA tax collection for a short period of time. That would put money in to everyone hands that actually works.
That will never happen, though. Federal dollars to a politician is like drugs to an addict. They won’t help others if it takes the power to facilitate a desired outcome out of their hands. It’s all about power, control, and destiny…theirs!
That is not really the point. If they are on the margin between hiring someone and not, the $3k (or whatever it is, I would agree it probably has to be more) may be enough to push them.
That goes back to my question to right_on. Whose? Corporate or Personal?
They should give out the condoms to the members of the Aristocracy that voted for and support the TARP.
Then those members should wear them over their heads as a symbol of their well meaning and support of us little people.
You want my take? He is talking about contraceptives. I am willing to bet the house part of that “contraceptives” is tax funded abortions as well.
As for “metaphorical sense”, yeah, I agree. We are so screwed and we need contraceptives to keep from having babies our great grandchildren are going to have to pay for (GTA 2.0). How’s that for a metaphore?
Wow!!! All of my wishes are coming true!!!
Thank you, Mr. President. Next steps (among others): repeal ban on partial abortion, legalize stem cell research, raise taxes on the rich so that we can fix the shrinking economy (thanks to G W Bush). Increase federal taxes on gasoline (by 30 to 50¢ / Gal) and double the taxes on SUVs so that we can fix the damn crumbling roads and bring them to European standard of quality, abolish the barbarian death penalty or make it as hard as possible: see how the British (1961) or the French (1981) did… and finally this is for you guys (I have been a a vegan since I was 7): ban the use of hormone growth promoters (health hazard) in food-producing animals (meat). US beef is banned in Europe and many other countries because it is hormone-tainted.
Aren’t you all, sir? Aren’t you all?
It’s always all about you with your posts, isn’t it?
Chap,
P.S. Maybe you will believe this?
Question? What in hell are we doing funding abortions in other countries using tax money? I suppose when you have a living Constitution, we must take care of killing babies everywhere whilst protecting terrorist’s rights!
Good is bad – bad is good. Come quickly!
The Master: Sure it will… …All those condoms in the back pockets of “hot-to-trot” males will be carried to bars where they will ply members of the opposite sex with copious amounts of alcohol with the intent of employing the contraceptive, or not.
Those males who are successful will then have to take a cab ride to his or her place (can’t drive under the influence). In the meantime, the unsuccessful males will stay at the bar and drown their sorrow and probably eat lots of bar food and then catch a cab home. Those females left behind will likely go home and get the cab to stop at a 7-11 to get some ice cream.
If the contraceptive is overlooked in the ensuing moments of passion, or if the government provided contraceptives work as most government provided assistance does, abortion clinics will get more business.
Either way, there will be more alcohol consumed, more bar food and ice cream consumed, cab drivers will be fully employed and there will be plenty of employment for abortion clinic workers.
Win-win-win!
Sarc off
why oh why would someone actually want the ‘ban’ lifted on partial-birth abortion (or as I like to call it ‘go ahead & carry your baby to term so that you can actually witness its death’)?
ANYBODY who can say that with a straight face should never be allowed to utter a single word ever again. That is just sick. PPA is the sickest thing man has concocted to kill the unborn.
I feel sorry for people like you.
PBA – Partial Birth Abortion (NOT PPA)
edelweiss, you my dear were born too late, you’d have been a perfect candidate for Jim Jones Jonestown. By the way I see how the kool-aid is working, does it taste good. Have you read the health warning label of the kool-aid: drinking this will be hazardous to your mental health.
That may explain your difficulty making a coherent argument. Meat is a natural part of our diet and, presuming you believe in evolution, has been a part of our development for millions of years. Now get down to your local grocer, buy yourself a large steak, cook it medium rare and enjoy. Then return to post here after your brain has started to recover from protein depletion. Things will be more clear.
Actually…I agree with this.
Well, you do have a brain you use – regularly.
Actually, the only thing more sick I have ever heard came from Barbara Boxer’s mouth:
“It’s not a baby until you bring it home from the hospital.” Sick minds – just sick.
That’s ok because the French get their protein from horse meat.
‘Europe’–is that still there?
Well if it isn’t Ms. Socialist Princess! The same chick taking money from a foreign government just so she can get through med school. Was it a another long night for you, Swiss Flower? Why couldn’t you go to med school in Europe since you’re so fond of their universal medical bankruptcy system?
Of course, it’s just words to you. You didn’t spend a lot of time in the States because you barely share the traits that tie all Americans together. You went to a freaking boarding school yet here you are lecturing to ordinary Americans on this board about how liberal ideals are “ideal.” Perhaps, if you were born into privilege and influence like the likes of you.
I’m sorry Swiss Miss, but you “barely” share the same American ideals that the rest of us do. You’ve spent most of your schooling on the French/Swiss citizens’ dime. The same kind of thing you want for the American taxpayers. You’re an American in “name only” not in life experience, opportunity, or achievement.
Just keep on trying to convince yourself how “special” and “smart” Obummer is when everything he’s trying to achieve is some liberal, EuroSocialist retread.
Apparently there are plans by the White House to include birth control in the stimulus package. Had to dig a little just to get this information, probably because I don’t know the right places to look. “Dim view,” huh?
Media and lefty jokers are snickering over Boehner’s comment and are already guffawing with “that’s what she said” comments.
In trying to find out more, I stumbled upon this Politico story, where Obama says, “I won.”
Conservatives will be using the words “class” and “bipartisanship” a lot in sarcastic tones for a long time, I foresee.
From the article:
OK, I’ll admit that it is kinda funny.
Well, partial-birth abortion should only be performed under extreme circumstances (f.i. when the woman’s life is in danger).
Gotta disagree. When you are at the point of partial birth abortion, there is a better than decent chance the child can live anyway, even if premature. It may or may not end up dying, but if you are that late in a pregnancy, you either 1) decided to go through with the pregnancy, in which case why not see if the child can live or 2) waited too long and thus forfeited any right to decide whether to terminate the pregnancy or not.
Let me get this straght… liberal logic is a little hard for me to follow. You’re suggesting we kill innocent babies, but death row inmates (all who have been tried by a jury, exhausted multiple appeals, almost all guilty of some horrific act) you want to allow to live? I would suggest you don’t step in front of my speeding suv while I bounce down the crumbling road.
How do they catch them – even the horses run backwards.
That explains why there was no further intellectual development beyond that point.
Edelwuss: If you are smart enough to be in med school, you should be smart enough to understand the following:
The top 1% of taxpayers earn 22% of the income yet they pay about 40% of the income taxes at a rate of 23% of their income.
For the top 10%, the numbers are 48% of the income earned, 71% of the income taxes paid, and a tax rate of 19%.
The top 50% earn 88% of the income, pay 97% of the income taxes at a rate of 14%.
The bottom 50% earn 13% of the income, yet they pay only 3% of the taxes at a rate of 3%.
How exactly are the rich not paying “their fair share” when the poor are the ones not shouldering but a miniscule portion of the tax burden?
The figures are for tax year 2006 and can be seen at:
http://www.taxfoundation.org/news/show/250.html
JFK was the one who said a rising tide raises all boats — and he wasn’t talking about his brother Teddy’s yacht, or the hope Mary Jo had that it might apply to his car!
That’s because it’s not based on, you know, logic.
It’s based on mindless aping of whatever European socialists are doing. (”France banned the death penalty.) Trendy fads (”I’m a vegan.”) And self-gratification trumping morality. (”I can’t be pregnant! My new wardobe won’t fit! I’ll have to shop at CostCo! Kill it! Kill it!)
Liberal logic can’t be followed, because liberalism is not based on logic. It’s based on the idea that if you really believe in them, fairies and unicorns are really.
Correction: It’s based on the idea that if you really believe in them, fairies and unicorns are really real.
“Well… blah, blah, blah…”
What a load of crap. How many abortions have been performed under that lie?
Now about your other stupid comment on stem cell research. Stem cell research is legal. Adult stem cell research works wonderfully. The problem is embryonic stems cells. They just do not perform and cause all kinds of problems. The private sector will not waste their money on embryonic stem cell research because of this fact. As soon as the stoopid a$$ government approves government funding, Doctors will be there for the free money. Will they have to produce results? Nope. They just have to try – failure is acceptable. Why throw tax money at embryonic stem cell research? It is what liberals do. It will be a big waste of money. But you go on believing embryo’s need to be destroyed for nothing. Like you believe PBA is justifiable.
Sick minds.
Come soon I pray.
What? This is UTTER NONSENSE! Aren’t you supposed to be studying medicine? Performing such a procedure on a women with a LIFE THREATENING CONDITION would be EXTREMELY DANGEROUS TO THE WOMAN!
What a crock! If you are studying medicine you should be ashamed of repeating this idiocy! If you are not studying medicine you should go learn something about abortion before you keep repeating NONSENSE of this nature!
More evidence of the end to petty grievances that have strangled our politics.
Whew, thanks, Dex. I was starting to wonder if I was talking to a wall. Of course, I should’ve known HotAir would mention it before I did.
Ms. Edelweiss may not be smart enough to make it through med school. Whom does she think is going to pay the much higher taxes she thinks will “save our country”? (Engineer hint–LOOK IN THE MIRROR.)
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When the O’Bummer and his liberal / socialist / minions in Congress raise everyone’s taxes the RICH DOCTORS WILL BE A PRIME TARGET. They worked hard and took out a lot of student loans that must be paid back. They deferred working so they could get a better income later–then the government is coming to steal their money for their trouble. You will understand this more clearly when you fill out the next few years income tax forms and pay through your A**.
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Are you sure you come from Switzerland? You should reread the William Tell story–and the English Robin Hood legend. The O’Bummer government is not William Tell or Robin Hood–it is the bad Swiss warlord or the Sheriff of Nottingham instead.
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In the “old days” here murdering unborn babies (aka “choice”) was known as murder–not some minor medical procedure. Real doctors did not support this evil–although it is probably just fine in your world.
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Go back to Switzerland–or France–where your way of thinking has destroyed once great countries. Get fitted for a Burkha first–you will be needing one soon there.
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John Bibb
I think John Boehner is a ray of hope in an otherwise dark political time. Did anyone else notice the look on his face as he walked down the step from the Crypt on his way to the inauguration?
Rubberheads…
Boehner voted for the bailouts. After branding them a “crap sandwich.”
That’s not a ray of light – that’s an on coming train.
Forget about him.
And as a reminder, spending bills are supposed to originate in the House of Representatives, not the White House. You’d think a Constitutional law professor would remember that.
Yo, I got your stimulated economy right here….
Heehee, but that is a whole other kind of “stimulation”,
Seriously, though, this is getting ridiculous. You don’t fix money problems by throwing money at them without clear directives on how that $ is being used.
I need to be stimulated too, but that would be taxed, taken away from me, and then sent to stimulate someone else who needs to be stimulated because the left is spreading the stimulation around and will determine who must be stimulated more than others. So begins the never ending cycle of the need to be stimulated by those whos’ brains are in desperate need of stimulation due to their lack of neurostimulation.
Dick Morris said Obama’s stimulus package is actually a Trojan horse so I guess that also explains the condoms. LOL
Hey, before the Nazis invaded a country, they’d drop pornography into the cities and towns to distract locals.
Sounds like a plan to me.
Hey, before the Nazis invaded a country, they’d drop pornography into the cities and towns to distract locals.
Sounds like a plan to me.
STEPHANOPOULOS: We also heard from Congressman Boehner coming out of the meeting today that again a lot of that spending doesn’t even meet the same test you just talked about right now. Hundreds of millions of dollars to expand family planning services. How is that stimulus?
PELOSI: Well, the family planning services reduce cost. They reduce cost. The states are in terrible fiscal budget crises now and part of what we do for children’s health, education and some of those elements are to help the states meet their financial needs. One of those – one of the initiatives you mentioned, the contraception, will reduce costs to the states and to the federal government.
STEPHANOPOULOS: So no apologies for that?
PELOSI: No apologies. No. we have to deal with the consequences of the downturn in our economy.
We’re getting them, they are called “anchor babies” and they are being dropped as fast as nature allows.
I could never quite accept the long-term solution to anything being a never ending population increase in a finite area.