Stop lying, Nancy
A GOP source reports on the Democrats’ attempts to make the Generational Theft Act of 2009 look like a “bipartisan” effort:
Outside of the White House, Speaker Pelosi just claimed that Republican voices have been heard in discussion of the House Democrats’ trillion-dollar spending bill. That is simply not true. As an example, she cited a $3,000 per-job tax credit. This provision was requested by President Obama – not House Republicans – and House Democrats have already removed it from the legislation. In addition, the House Democrats’ bill contains significantly less tax relief than President Obama requested.
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Meantime, the Republican Study Committee has had a solidly conservative stimulus alternative out for a week.
And the GOP Whip’s office sends a Republican alternative that will be handed to President Obama:
House Republican Economic Recovery Plan
President Obama asked House Republicans for their input on the stimulus bill. In addition to some of the worthwhile policies already included, such as net operating loss carryback and expensing for small businesses, House Republicans are proposing:
Immediate Tax Relief for Working Families:
Rather than a refundable credit based on payroll taxes, House Republicans propose reducing the lowest individual tax rates from 15% to 10% and from 10% to 5%. As a result every taxpaying-family in America will see an immediate increase in their income with an average benefit of $500 in tax relief from the drop in the 10% bracket and $1,200 for the drop in the 15% bracket. A married couple filing jointly could save up to $3,200 a year in taxes.
Ø The two lowest tax rates in America are 10% and 15%. Every taxpayer pays income taxes beginning at the 10% rate.
Ø 105.2 million tax returns paid tax at the 10% rate, including:
o 44.9 million married couples, and
o 13.5 million heads of households
Ø A married couple pays 10% of their income in taxes on their first $16,700 in income
Ø Lowering the 10% rate to 5% would result in an average tax cut of $500
Ø In addition to the taxes they paid at the 10% rate, an additional 79.0 million tax returns paid tax at the 15% rate, including:
o 37.5 million married couples, and
o 7.7 million heads of households
Ø A married couple pays 15% of their income in taxes on their income between $16,700 and $67,900
Ø Lowering the tax rate from 15% to 10% would result in an average tax cut of $1,157
Help for America’s Small Businesses:
Small businesses (those employing less than 500 individuals) employ about half of all Americans, yet they can be subject to tax rates that siphon away one-third or more of their income. House Republicans propose to allow small business to take a tax deduction equal to a 20% of their income. This will immediately free up funds for small businesses to retain and hire new employees.
Ø Small Businesses, those with 500 or fewer employees:
o Represent 99.9 percent of the 27.2 million businesses in America
o Employ about half of all private sector employees
o In 2005 they created 979,102 net new jobs, or 78.9 percent of new jobs
Ø Irrespective of whether they pay taxes at the corporate or individual level, small businesses can pay up to 35% of their income in taxes to the federal government
o The United States business tax rate ranks the 29th highest (out of 30) among the major economies of the world
o The only country with a higher tax rate is Japan
No Tax Increases to Pay for Spending:
The stimulus proposal pending in Congress includes record levels of government spending that will substantially increase the current deficit. House Republicans are concerned that this level of spending will result in some proposing near-term tax increases on American families. House Republicans are insisting that any stimulus package include a provision precluding any tax increases now or in the future to pay for this new spending. House Republicans believe that any stimulus spending should be paid for by reducing other government spending, not raising taxes.
Ø With a $1 trillion deficit this year – before we even consider a stimulus bill, and with a $10.6 trillion national debt, we can’t afford to borrow money and waste it
Ø Once the additional costs of stimulus legislation are added, the deficit rises to 12% of GDP, twice the current post WW II record
Ø Speaker Pelosi has already stated this year that she is in favor of raising taxes “as soon as possible.” (Paul Kane, “Pelosi Urges Obama To Raise Taxes On Wealthy This Year,” The Washington Post, 1/8/09)
Assistance for the Unemployed:
Incredibly, the Federal Government actually imposes income taxes on an individual receiving unemployment benefits. House Republicans are proposing to make unemployment benefits tax free so that those individuals between jobs can focus on providing for their families.
Ø As a result of the taxation of unemployment benefits, unemployed Americans forfeit approximately 11% of their unemployment benefits to the Federal Government
Stabilizing Home Values:
The real-estate market is paralyzed as potential buyers wait on the sidelines expecting prices to fall even further. This is becoming a self-fulfilling prophecy. In order to encourage responsible buyers to enter the market and stabilize prices, House Republicans are proposing a home-buyers credit of $7,500 for those buyers who can make a minimum down-payment of 5%.
Ø Even though prices on homes have been falling, sales have also fallen
Ø At the current rate that homes are being sold in the U.S. it would take over 11 months to sell all the homes currenlty on the market, and that assumes no new home go up for sale
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Is she lying or just CLUELESS?
While I have no doubt this spending bill will get passed, I have one question. After again reading the enumerated powers in Article 1, Section 8 of the U.S. Constitution, I have to wonder, how are any of the following lawful: the Environmental Protection Agency, the Department of Education, the Department of Agriculture, the Department of Housing and Urban Development, the Social Security Administration…? I could go on.
Here’s my favorite from this bill:
I seem to have missed the part dealing with batteries in the Constitution. About the closest thing is this: “To promote the Progress of Science and useful Arts, by securing for limited Times to Authors and Inventors the exclusive Right to their respective Writings and Discoveries”. Small problem though: who’s job is it, according to the U.S. Constitution, to invent things? Not the government, but rather “We the People”. This is killing me. If only Rep. John Shadegg could get his Enumerated Powers Act passed.
My money is on BOTH.
Sorry Michelle. Wait and see how much pork is added and you will see the Repubs line up and sign on the dotted line. Pork levels the playing field. Besides, the line between the two parties is getting more faint. Clinton approved 98/2.
I see this as being “bipartisan”. Not 50/50 mind you . 100% Dems and 60% Repubs is my call – IMHO of course.
She’ll quit lying when she is paralyzed from the eyes down.
Of course she’s a liar–just like her father (Satan the Devil).
Lies and deceit are the new reality in this socialist, totalitarian country we have become. Forget democratic principles of freedom and liberty . . . they simply don’t exist anymore. When a nation’s value system rots and hedonism prevails it descends into this puddle of slime.
The word “harridan” seems to have been invented expressly for Pelosi.
She is an invertebrate liar.
NANCY, YOU’RE A LIAR LIAR UGLY PANTS SUIT ON FIRE!
I don’t think San Fran Nan is lying. I sure they listened to the GOP members of Congress. They listened to them and then promptly ignored what was said.
#2 Send Me. Great question and most people don’t know.
Most misinformed people believe that the core of rights contained therein is in the Bill of Rights, the real core of rights is Article I, Section 8, the powers of Congress which, when coupled with the 10th Amendment, essentially says that the Federal government cannot do anything unless it is on that list, or covered by an Amendment (such as the income tax, covered by he 16th Amendment). So, unconstitutional are:
Social Security
Medicare
Medicaid
Food Stamps
Public Housing
Welfare programs
EPA/environmental regulations
OSHA/workplace safety regulations
Wagner Act (forced negotiations with unions)
Minimum wage
Child labor laws
Product liability laws
Anti-discrimination laws (at least by non-government entities)
And I could go on…
If the democrat party had any interest in enforcing the Constitution, they would demand every one of these be eliminated immediately, period. Fat chance.
Lying worm?
LOL! Her transparent skin has been stretched so thin, her eyes are going to pop out of her head one of these days.
And are any of us really surprised that she lies?
Nancy Pelosi loved to use the word “failed” Bush policies for so long, I hope she’s gotten used to hearing the word.
For starters, she’s the first, female, failed, Speaker of the House. Her agenda is heading toward a whole lot of “failures”.
While she’s at it, she should get used to the moniker she placed on Republicans – The Culture of Corruption. She owns it now.
Stop lying, Nancy.
About as likely as:
Stop swimming, fish.
I wish they would stop with this bi-partisan crap. Only the truely stupid would not know that this is going to be the DNC’s game for at least 2 years.
I would only be surprised if any of them actually TOLD THE TRUTH.
I’m actually pretty inspired by the alternative proposed by the Republicans. Even if it doesn’t pass, at least we know there are Conservatives still in there somewhere.
Pelosi doesn’t surprise me anymore. She’ll say whatever she has to.
Jeremiah 13:23 Can the Ethiopian change his skin
or the leopard its spots?
Neither can you do good
who are accustomed to doing evil.
She can’t stop lying. She’s a looney, left-wing liberal. It’s just her nature.
Stop pooping in the woods Bears.
NO MORE DEFICIT SPENDING DAMN IT!
The government needs to be run the way RESPONSIBLE people run their own households.
Throw the bums out and institute term limits in 2010.
Right, as if a Democrat could get elected without lying.
ThatSamIAm: LOL!!!
Hey, Nancy! Vivian Vance called. She wants her pantsuit back!
Pelosi is a socialist liar. The republicans are irrelevant.
Stop lying, Nancy? Sorry folks but that is not possible. The trophy wife Speaker of the House is incapable of integrity and it is cruel of you to expect other wise
Das Peoples Socialist Republic of Kalifornia also has two trophy wife Senators. But with Maria Shrivers houseboy as governator that is to be expected.
I am so furious that the idiots that ran the Republican majority got us in this mess. If they had not lost their soul, we could have had an agenda like the one proposed here.
The mainstream press will NEVER expose this alternative to the people so they will know that the Democrats plan to screw them and screw them hard.
Meanwhile, how can we get some closed primaries to avoid another idiot like McCain running in 2012?
That is a seriously good topic.
Looks like this contract between the people and the government called our constitution has been breached so many times on the government side that it’s become null and void as a valid, binding agreement. Perhaps the American people need to renegotiate the terms of this contract, or bring the federal government into compliance through arbitration.
It’s impossible.
My apologies to Perry Como.
Exactly.
She’ll stop lying when she stops talking. Until then, this is what we can expect for at least then next two years. If the GOP can’t get its act together by 2010 to take back the Congress, we can expect another two years after that of Nancy’s fiery pants.
Look…the Reps, and therefore conservatives, are not going to get out of this hole until Rep voters man up and admit THEY created the situation. If you want to call it a mess, your choice but YOU created it.
Rep voters voted for a compassionate conservative to lead them…ie a “good” government moderate. All Bush did was do what he said he’d do.
Rep voters wanted tax cuts and increased spending on the military which created the budget deficits. The Reps in Congress listened and spent the money and dropped the taxes.
But then when Bush and Congress did what the Rep voters wanted, the constituency acted like morons about the results. They acted as if spending was out of control (when it wasn’t), and blew the deficit/debt thing TOTALLY out of proportion. This lead DIRECTLY to political gains for the Dems.
So pat yourself on the back for the mess. STOP blaming everyone else. It’s only going to perpetuate the situation.
Someone has got to start talking some common sense on the right!
Not even then. “Lyin’ Eyes.”
ECS
The big problem is that the weasels in Congress consider taxes to be “their money” when in reality it is “our money.” We need to elect people who understand the difference. Senator Tom Coburn (R-OK) understands the difference. Maybe we should put him in charge of the Republican Party before we all run and form our own.
ECS
One woman’s truth is reason enough for the total suspension of disbelief.
So the new administration should take its economic cues from the Republicans? Um, have you seen what Republicans have done to our economy lately?
As a result of the taxation of unemployment benefits, unemployed Americans forfeit approximately 11% of their unemployment benefits to the Federal GovernmentIn other words, they pay the same money to the government twice.The Obamanation started long before Obama, folks.
RWR
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In other words, they pay the same money to the government twice.
The Obamanation started long before Obama, folks.
RWR
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Thats better …
Now to get a sysadmin to delete the other …
RWR
#11
Welcome to the Federalist Party!
RWR
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Eh. The tax cuts are somewhat conservative. The rest is the same old government sticking its nose where it doesn’t belong.
If they were really conservative, they’d be proposing reforming the tax code (hopefully by repealing the appropriate Amendment) and asking Congress and the President to divest themselves of involvement in the other things.
Now THAT would be conservative!
RWR
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Too late.
RWR
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That arbitration is built into the Second Amendment.
Sadly, that’s getting repealed too, as in many states it already has.
RWR
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No. Please educate me. What do you mean “lately?” The Democrat Party has been writing ALL the laws for the past two years, and prior to that, they had input in to any legislation offered by the Republican Party. That is something they have NOT afforded by the Democrats WHO RUN EVERYTHING, NOW!
If you want to blame GW, then you need to place more blame on the Democrats who have blocked the “line item veto” since it was first proposed. Will they now give that authority to O? Not bloody likely, friend!
For under the screen cap: Pfffft, yeah, that’s likely.
The Democrats screamed like little babies about GOP spending (they did spend too much) but now the libs want show us how spending is really done, as in the nation is done.for.
Yeah, Barney Frank, Chris Dodd and every other surrendercrat who porked up every spending bill for the past 4 years had nothing at all to do with it.
Rub your last brain cells together and try again.
We’ve heard this many times before from Republicans, but the fact is they are being completely disingenuous about cutting government spending (as evidenced by the last 8 years). Tax cuts are great, I love them, but if they are “paid” for through more government debt and inflation, they could actually turn into a detriment.
Be specific Republicans! What do we cut to pay for tax cuts? Social Security? Medicare? Defense Spending? Education? I’m in favor of severely cutting all of those programs, but you simply give us they same rhetoric about “cutting spending” with no action of follow through.
In other words, you’re full of sh*t.
That’s like telling the sun not to shine.
Bush signed those spending bills. What we need to understand is that there is absolutely no difference between Republicans being in charge or Democrats being in charge.
Reminds me of the Gary Larson cartoon where a man is scolding his dog. All the dog comprehends is her name.
The man is saying, “Bad dog, Trixie! You shouldn’t dig up my garden, Trixie! If you aren’t a better dog, Trixie, you will be punished.” The dog hears only, “Blah blah Trixie. Blah blah blah blah blah blah, Trixie…”
In Congress, the Republicans (those we can trust) are saying, “We need to cut the tax on everyone. Jobs will be created if we cut the tax rate. We can’t spend our way out of debt.” The Democrats hear only, “Blah blah blah blah tax blah blah. Blah blah blah blah blah tax blah. Blah blah blah blah, blah blah blah spend blah….”
So, they can truthfully say:
He signed the bills because of the main purpose of the bill, not because of the pork that was added to it by the surrendercrats. There was no other way he would have gotten the bill without the pork.
Hell even spending bills for Iraq were larded up and held hostage.
As for Frank and Dodd, Bush tried as far back as 2005 to fix FM/FM and those two would not allow it directly leading to the collapse of the mortgage industry.
I’m afraid I have to side with “Ah a Lion” on this one- at least for the past few years and with regard to spending, there has not been a noticeable difference between the parties. I just wish someone, anyone would trace the steps back from Dodd and Frank and CLINTON and show the true cause of the housing trouble. Namely, pressuring banks to finance homes for people who could not make the payments in the name of diversity.
And before I get accused of shilling for Bush, he was negligent as well.
She should be tested for Dementia —- AH
Yet they cry about the “cost of the war”.
Someone did.
It actually can be traced back to one man: Alan Greenspan.
Hmmm. Multiple choice. Let’s see, she’s a 3rd generation politician. So, she’s adept at lying. However, she’s also a brain-dead socialist. So, she’s completely clueless.
So, that makes her a lying socialist scum. Works for me!
b-cat, we may not be able to since the socialists are in charge. What we need to do is to have an open convention and nominate a true conservative; that is, NOT the one chosen by the newspaper of wreckage.
Send_Me said: (#2)
My opinion is mostly no. Parts of EPA (and some of the labor laws) can be fit under Article I, Section 8, Clause 3 (regulating commerce among the several states).
I was thinking of sending every member of Congress and the President and Vice-President a copy of the Constitution. However, lack of money is making me change this thought to sending to only my representatives.
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xler8bmw said: (#11)
While the Republicans are not innocent, it’s the Democrats who have done most violence to the Constitution, including the “living document” lie that allows them to change the meaning without bothering to change the words.
Which leads me to not wanting a Constitutional Convention. The convention that wrote our Constitution was originally merely supposed to tighten up the Articles of Confederation. But once the body met, they exceeded their original writ. (Thankfully!!) I fear that any modern convention would do similarly, and we would end up with a Constitution that would look like the one proposed for the state that DC would become if it were granted statehood (the State of New Columbia). Rights for everything and no financial discipline – at least that I recall.
I wouldn’t mind a Constitutional Convention, as long as no lawyers are allowed, no lobbyists are allowed, no person that is paid from the public treasury is allowed, and the delegates cannot be chosen by any person that is a lawyer, a lobbyist, or paid from the public treasury.
Also, each state is entitled to three delegates; so to break any tie because all voting is done by states. The U.S territories (DC, Mariana Islands, Puerto Rico, Virgin Islands, etc.) get three delegates among them; that is, the territories are grouped and treated as one state. Which is perfect – there would be “51 states” at the convention. No ties.
The proceedings will need to be recorded. If for no other reason than to have a record of what was meant when an issue was decided.
Unfortunately, it will end up like the O.J. trial. Every network will have an “expert” telling the viewers just what is happening and how anything that is not liked will be bad or unworkable.
It would be media circus. But it would be worth it just to make socialism unconstitutional.
Of course – if the republican party had any interest in the constitution, they would be pushing for same. But they aren’t. As Rush says – they are only interested in preserving and increasing the power of those inside the beltway. Unless and until the people of this country understand power in Washington DC is a bad thing, it’s not going to stop.
I’m not convinced that’s entirely so. With open primaries, it’s not entirely clear who picks the candidates.
Does anybody know how we’d go about getting closed primaries?
I honestly don’t know what that means. I am a special interest I lobby for myself. (Though my interest in myself means something entirely different I’m sure than most – I stand accountable before GOD Almighty, so my interest is in what is right, not necessarily what “benefits” me in the short run).
I’m pretty sure you are a special interest, and would lobby for yourself too.
Apparently, this pork laden bill has $600 million in it just to prepare the US for universal healthcare.
Nice try at the sneak around the end move.
I will admit that it may not be easy to determine just who or what is a lobbyist. The easiest way to start would be anyone currently employed as such.
The only reason for excluding current lobbyists is their penchant for gaming the system. We want to make lobbying unconstitutional. Actually, it already is; it’s just that no one bothers to enforce it and congress will never pass a law to do so.
I think lobbying could be interpreted as questioning members of congress in any other place.
Though, as I said, congress will never pass a law prohibiting lobbying. It is in their interest (read as: money, kickbacks, graft) not to do so.
I keep looking at the picture of SanFranNan and I can’t help but wonder…..If she has another face lift do you think her eyebrows and scalpe will become one?
Asking San Fran Nan to stop lying is like asking Neil Young to stop rockin’ in the free world; like telling HBO to air family-centered programming; like asking Gallagher to be funny; like asking the Clippers to not suck; like asking Ward Churchill to not lie on his resume or his ethnicity statement…
As a self-employed, I’d like the reform to include a provision that allows me to cut my MANDATORY tax rate down from 15% to 5%. My deductions get me to a zero-tax-owed status annually, but at the end of the day, no matter what my taxable income is, Uncle Sam puts his hand in my pocket and grabs my cash.
If Nancy the multi-millionaire Pelosi were to stop lying, she would become a wraith, neither living nor dead.
Rather than spend her life enjoying her wealth, traveling the world in luxury, she instead chooses to be House Speaker, a job involving: threatening others; lying to your friends and enemies alike; getting even; associating with low-life Representatives; helping others to break the law and lose their ethics. She is obviously preparing herself for an executive position in hell. LOL!
Seriously, what kind of person makes this kind of choice? Obviously no one with good mental health.
A lot of this stuff was passed during FDR’s administration and it was blatantly unconstitutional. I fear for what 0 is going to do to this country. FDR’s idiotic policies and “relief” efforts kept this country in a depression far longer than necessary.