The John Murtha Jihadi Correctional Facility

By Michelle Malkin  •  January 23, 2009 09:24 AM

My syndicated column today smacks Jack Murtha upside his thick head. How would he like 250 Said Ali al Shihris roaming around Johnstown, Pa.? Very much, apparently. Looks like Pennsylvania will need that National Terrorist Registry — and quick.

Meantime, here’s the latest on the FBI raid of Murtha’s earmark contractors at Kuchera.

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The John Murtha Jihadist Correctional Facility
by Michelle Malkin
Creators Syndicate
Copyright 2008

Get this: King of Pork John Murtha, the 19-term Democratic congressman from western Pennsylvania, now wants to welcome a flood of Guantanamo Bay jihadis into his district. I don’t want to hear a single word of protestation from the constituents who put this money-grubbing, security-undermining fool back into office. As you vote, so shall you reap.

Murtha audaciously expressed his hope to house Gitmo detainees after President Barack Obama circulated his draft executive order to shut the facility down by the end of the year. “Sure, I’d take ‘em,” Murtha glibly retorted. “They’re no more dangerous in my district than in Guantanamo.” Murtha blustered that there was “no reason not to put ‘em in prisons in the United States and handle them the way they would handle any other prisoners.”

Before we unpack all that ignorant nonsense, let us pause to illuminate Murtha’s motives. He is driven neither by a warped sense of patriotic duty nor by misguided human rights compassion for al Qaeda’s footsoldiers. No, what fuels him is unabashed greed and a lifelong edifice complex. The money-grubbing Murtha, you see, just can’t wait to snatch up federal tax dollars to build a new maximum security prison for the Gitmo gang — no doubt with his name and face plastered all over it. Welcome to the John Murtha Jihadist Correctional Facility.

Forget about the increased risk Murtha would subject his district to by volunteering it as a highly visible terror target. Forget about the disgusting affront this pork grab poses to the families of those who died on United Flight 93 — which 9/11 terrorists crashed in Shanksville, Pa., represented by none other than Murtha at the time. There’s a shining prison on a hill to be built and Murtha will sell out his neighbors’ safety to make sure it’s built on his hill.

Murtha’s got logs to roll and wheels to grease. National security is an impediment, not an imperative. Would you expect anything less from the shameless politician caught on tape in the 1980s Abscam congressional bribery scandal mulling payoffs from FBI agents posing as Arab sheiks? (“How much money we talking about,” Murtha asked one of the bagmen.” “You know, we do business for a while, maybe I’ll be interested, maybe I won’t.”)

Murtha’s contempt for the people he serves should surprise no one. This is the man who called his own voters “rednecks” and who has refused to back down from his smears of the exonerated Marines who served in Haditha, Iraq as “cold-blooded” murderers. This is the man who denies that we are combating al Qaeda terrorists in Iraq. This is the man who lives in fantasy world where re-deploying American soldiers to Okinawa is a viable defense plan.

Murtha can’t see any reasons for keeping Gitmo detainees from flooding our regular prisons and preventing them from exploiting our civilian court system because he is willfully blind and stone-stupid. John Murtha, meet Lynne Stewart. She’s the disgraced jihad lawyer convicted last year of abetting her terrorist client and 1993 World Trade Center bombing/NY landmark bombing plot mastermind Omar Abdel-Rahman. Stewart helped smuggle coded messages of Islamic violence from the imprisoned sheik to outside followers in violation of an explicit pledge to abide by her client’s court-ordered isolation. While Rahman’s court-appointed translator conveyed the message during prison visits, Stewart made “covering noises” including shaking a water jar and tapping on the table. A draft fatwa was discovered in Stewart’s office; she also signaled Rahman’s wishes to his jihadi organization in an interview with Reuters news service. The publication of those comments ushered in a new wave of bombing attacks by Rahman’s previously dormant terror oufit. The left-wing radical Stewart remains unrepentant and clings to her belief that the 9/11 terrorist attacks were an “armed struggle.”

Now, imagine a traitorous bleeding-heart Lynne Stewart assigned to each and every one of the 250-odd Gitmo detainees. Imagine the risk of similar jailhouse collaborations to innocent men, women, and children at home and abroad. Imagine the three-ring, O.J.-like circuses these trials will cause in your backyards. It’s easy if you try.

Prosecuting suspected terrorists like petty thieves or drug dealers is fraught with peril. The Democrats have learned nothing from the failed law enforcement strategies of the feckless Clinton era. Confiscated Al Qaeda training manuals have revealed that recruits are instructed in how to manipulate the Western legal system if they are captured. As I’ve noted before, affording accused Al Qaeda operatives the Sixth Amendment right to a public trial threatens to compromise classified information necessary to prosecute future terrorist trials. Other rights guaranteed by the Sixth Amendment — the right to subpoena witnesses and compel them to testify, the right to an attorney — can interfere with interrogations of captured suspected Al Qaeda agents. And while the lives of those directly involved in say, a mob trial, might be endangered, the entire nation may be at risk when we allow suspected members of a terrorist network to engage in the discovery process and in privileged communications with attorney-abettors.

Who will be accountable when these prosecutions run amok? When convicted jihadis wreak bloody havoc from behind bars? And when Gitmo recidivists wage war anew once released? John Murtha doesn’t give a damn. Do you?

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  1. #1
    On January 23rd, 2009 at 9:26 am, b-cat said:

    Who will be accountable when these prosecutions run amok? When convicted jihadis wreak bloody havoc from behind bars? And when Gitmo recidivists wage war anew once released?

    Nah, that won’t happen. You seem to think its like their religion or something.

  2. #2
    On January 23rd, 2009 at 9:29 am, ackrite55 said:

    Was this factored in as part of the zillion new jobs?

  3. #3
    On January 23rd, 2009 at 9:31 am, torabora said:

    The people of his district in PA DESERVE to have Jihadi’s in their midst.

    I can’t think of a better place for them except for maybe this idyllic spot on the southeast side of some island in the beautiful Caribbean Sea.

  4. #5
    On January 23rd, 2009 at 9:33 am, bradley said:

    I’d only go along with this if Murtha would put the jihadist fanatics up at HIS house. All 250 of them. They can sleep on bunk beds.

  5. #6
    On January 23rd, 2009 at 9:33 am, b-cat said:

    On January 23rd, 2009 at 9:31 am, torabora said:
    The people of his district in PA DESERVE to have Jihadi’s in their midst.

    Problem is, once they’re loose, they can travel to your town, or to an important financial center, travel hub, capitol city, etc.

  6. #7
    On January 23rd, 2009 at 9:34 am, granite said:

    Excellent article, Michelle.

    What?
    Our resident trolls, other worldview-holders, statists/socialists/atheists haven’t mocked, ridiculed, criticized, and scornfully dismissed you yet, Michelle?
    What gives?

  7. #8
    On January 23rd, 2009 at 9:34 am, singlemalt_18 said:

    Michelle,

    Before you judge his constituents too harshly, look a little deeper into the internal numbers of the vote.

    I’m in his district. John McCain took our county by 29,000 MORE votes than George Bush ever got. How Murtha achieved his numbers is VERY suspicious.

    In the past two elections serious opposition to Murtha HAS been attempted, but his stranglehold on the ballot boxes defies innocent speculation.

  8. #9
    On January 23rd, 2009 at 9:35 am, Virginia Patriot said:

    We care, I’m not sure any of the people supposedly representing us do, Dem or Rep. It’s a one party system, just two divisions under the same ownership. We The People are so screwed. We have given up the country our forebears fought and died to bequeath us.

  9. #10
    On January 23rd, 2009 at 9:36 am, nacho475 said:

    the last few days have felt like a really bad dream. i’m ready to wake up now!!!

  10. #11
    On January 23rd, 2009 at 9:36 am, RedDog said:

    “As you vote, so shall you reap.” Perfect sentiment for the PA morons who doubled down on this louse. Serves them right. But hey, they want their piece of the newly baked Socialist crap pie being served up in Washington. They’re welcome to my “share”. I want no part of blood money.

  11. #12
    On January 23rd, 2009 at 9:38 am, nacho475 said:

    granite- the trolls are probably still asleep. they may not have to work like the rest of us.

  12. #13
    On January 23rd, 2009 at 9:40 am, singlemalt_18 said:

    but his stranglehold on the ballot boxes defies innocent speculation.

    Not to mention the raid by federal authorities YESTERDAY on a so called “defense contractor” run by two brothers who are some of his local corrupticrats!

    Finish the story…

  13. #14
    On January 23rd, 2009 at 9:41 am, granite said:

    On January 23rd, 2009 at 9:38 am, nacho475 said:

    granite- the trolls are probably still asleep. they may not have to work like the rest of us.

    Funny, the same thought crossed my mind!

    But, you said it first.
    Kudos to you!

  14. #15
    On January 23rd, 2009 at 9:46 am, Ed Mahmoud abu al-Kahoul said:

    Hooray!

    (p)MSNBC proudly informs us Bush’s War on Terror is over!

    I wonder who won…

  15. #16
    On January 23rd, 2009 at 9:51 am, sonofdy said:

    I wonder who won

    Al queada. Better be ready, because Obama just destroyed most of americas protections against attack. It will take a while but its coming.

  16. #17
    On January 23rd, 2009 at 9:52 am, RedDog said:

    On January 23rd, 2009 at 9:34 am, singlemalt_18 said:
    … In the past two elections serious opposition to Murtha HAS been attempted, but his stranglehold on the ballot boxes defies innocent speculation.

    Murtha’s power is the tip of the iceberg. As I’ve said many times, the Socialists have achieved total control of all our public institutions, including the courts and public schools. They now have all the control they need to retain power. Look at the reactions of the people at State when Hillary spoke to them. They were literally ecstatic. Compare that to the reaction to Bush’s appointees. All departments of the federal government are compromised. No wonder he could get nothing accomplished with them given the fact they were actually working to undermine his policies. How many Pulitzers will be awarded based on leaks during this administration? I bet on NONE. The natures of our public institutions and authority bases have fundamentally changed over the last fifty years to a hard-core secular socialist mindset. American patriots have a long row to hoe.

  17. #18
    On January 23rd, 2009 at 9:52 am, Trollman said:

    There’s a shining prison on a hill to be built…

    That is a great line, truly classic! It made me lol.

  18. #19
    On January 23rd, 2009 at 9:56 am, iamsaved said:

    With Murtha’s greed, its not hard to follow his rationale. Get the federal money to build a maximum security prison. Then request additional Homeland Security funds for the required extra protection to counteract terrorist attempts to free their fellow jihadists, and the list goes on.

    Murtha is a money man and will do whatever it takes to get the pork into his district.

    With the insulting executive orders that BO is signing, I imagine he could go one further. Rather than the planned 9/11 memorial in western PA, set up a maximum jihadist prison in memory of the 9/11 victims and name it after Murtha – a true Patriot and defender of the American Way.

  19. #20
    On January 23rd, 2009 at 9:56 am, Socky said:

    I just wonder how many American lives are about to be sacrificed on the altar of liberal smugness.

  20. #21
    On January 23rd, 2009 at 9:57 am, GraniteMan said:

    How would you like to live a few miles from Murtha’s gulag when a “progressive” judge turns one of these Muslim jihadist loose to catch a bus home. Shawshank it ain’t.

  21. #22
    On January 23rd, 2009 at 9:58 am, RedDog said:

    I heard this morning that GA Sen. Johnny Isaakson and another senator from ND are opening a commission to investigate the causes of and responsibilty for the sub-prime crisis. One can only hope guys like Frank, Dodd, Rangel, and Murtha – the real criminals – will get exposed and sent to jail. Oh, wait a minute, sorry, I just woke up. I must have been dreaming on that last part. If anyone goes to jail it will be Dick Cheney. My bad.

  22. #24
    On January 23rd, 2009 at 10:02 am, iamsaved said:

    RedDog #21:

    A Republican lead investigation in a Democrat controlled House and Senate? That will only happen if there’s an inkling that Republicans were pulling the chicanery of Dodd and Frank. Since all the trails lead to the Democrats, there will be no investigation.

    Liberal Battle Cry – Release the Terrorists! Prosecute Bush!

  23. #25
    On January 23rd, 2009 at 10:04 am, Craig said:

    There’s a special place in Hell for people like Lynne Stewart. And John Murtha seems to want to vacation there.

  24. #26
    On January 23rd, 2009 at 10:06 am, nacho475 said:

    i don’t like saying this for the obvious reason that it puts our troops in a position where they will not take prisoners.

  25. #27
    On January 23rd, 2009 at 10:07 am, Marc said:

    Once the Obama/Murtha plan to close Gitmo and give each terrorist a full civilian trial goes into effect, the terrorists get far more “rights” than Michelle mentioned. They will also get a free jury consulting team and that jury consulting teams gets to spend millions of taxpayer funds to have surveys, polls, computer generated studies, etc. And then the terrorists get free “legal support” teams. The best law firms in the land are lined up waiting for the taxpayers to pay them for representing slimy terrorists who could not gain admittance to the country clubs that their lawyers retreat to on weekends. And than the terrorists are also allowed free “expert witnesses”. The phony baloney experts on every subject will charge a fortune for the right to bamboozle the jury. And then all it takes is one juror out of twelve and the terrorist is home free.
    And let’s not forget that the terrorists wil have the full panoply of fourth amendment challenges to seizure of evidence, a full slate of hearing to challenge alleged confessions and the right to subpoena Condi Rice, Dick Cheney and probably Ed Meese as well. Heck, why not compel Dan Quayle to testify as well? What we will get is not trials of terrorists but trials of the US government and conservatism as well. Liberal federal judges will be on the side of terrorists, particularly the US Court of Appeals for the Second Circuit in NYC which always, always, supports terrorists over the US government.

  26. #28
    On January 23rd, 2009 at 10:07 am, dan708 said:

    I’m not sure who’s a bigger joke – Murtha or his voters.

  27. #29
    On January 23rd, 2009 at 10:08 am, Send_Me said:

    We need to stop messing around here. Fine, if someone in their infinite wisdom wishes to bring these pathetic excuses for “holy warriors” to the states, then I know the perfect place: Ft. Wainwright, AK, right outside of the city North Pole, AK. With a balmy high of -3 tomorrow, I don’t think they’d try escaping. Even if they did, it’s not like they’d make it very far. The fine people of Alaska would take care of that problem I’m sure. (Something about bear and caribou hunting that prepares them for that task.) Also, it’d fulfil President Obama’s requirements for shutting down Gitmo, hence bringing the prisoners to the states. It’d increase the number of jobs in North Pole and keep the prisoners in a safe, secure environment. Anyone see any downsides to this plan?

  28. #30
    On January 23rd, 2009 at 10:09 am, Cogs said:

    Murtha’s pretty smart; once he gets the jihadis in his district, ACORN will register them and presto, more democrat votes.

  29. #31
    On January 23rd, 2009 at 10:09 am, rplatt said:

    Crazy Murtha and his dingbat constituents deserve whatever befalls them . . . just don’t let the terrorists or the residents of that warped congressional district escape form Pennsylvania.

  30. #33
    On January 23rd, 2009 at 10:13 am, Rogue Cheddar said:

    Otter: But you can’t hold a whole Jihadist organization responsible for the behavior of a few, sick twisted individuals. For if you do, then shouldn’t we blame the whole Jihadist system? And if the whole Jihadist system is guilty, then isn’t this an indictment of all our correctional institutions in general? I put it to you, Greg – isn’t this an indictment of our entire American society? Well, you can do whatever you want to us, but we’re not going to sit here and listen to you badmouth the United States of America. Gentlemen!
    [Leads the Jihadists out of the hearing, all humming the Star-Spangled Banner]

  31. #34
    On January 23rd, 2009 at 10:14 am, Monte Hall said:

    And to think the “citizens” of his district rejected his most recent Congressional race opponent, an Airborne/Ranger Army Reserve Officer.

  32. #35
    On January 23rd, 2009 at 10:18 am, pueblo1032 said:

    Michelle, only two comments on this column… You get the government you deserve, and elections have consequences…

  33. #36
    On January 23rd, 2009 at 10:19 am, sonofdy said:

    This move was just a stupid as obama demanding that Israel open its border up for hamas suicide bombers to get through.

  34. #37
    On January 23rd, 2009 at 10:21 am, Ed Mahmoud abu al-Kahoul said:

    Nice to know the jihadis have more rights because they fought in civilian clothes and hid among women and children than Italian and German soldiers who fought wearing the uniform of their countries.

    Anywa, we are officially back to the 1990s again, where terrorism is a lower priority item, and to be handled as a criminal matter, not a matter of national security.

  35. #38
    On January 23rd, 2009 at 10:23 am, FireBlogger said:

    “As you vote, so shall you reap.”

    Michelle, I have been saying that concerning the general election results of November 4.

    Murtha’s constituents are the low water mark of the American voter.

  36. #39
    On January 23rd, 2009 at 10:23 am, 30 pcs of silver said:

    On January 23rd, 2009 at 10:08 am, Send_Me said:

    I vote in favor!

  37. #40
    On January 23rd, 2009 at 10:24 am, wighttrasch said:

    Rogue Cheddar

    The time has come for someone to put their foot down. And that foot is me.

  38. #41
    On January 23rd, 2009 at 10:24 am, Ed Mahmoud abu al-Kahoul said:

    Poor Israel. The strongest ally they have left in this world is the Republic of Micronesia.

    On January 23rd, 2009 at 10:19 am, sonofdy said:
    This move was just a stupid as obama demanding that Israel open its border up for hamas suicide bombers to get through.

    If God doesn’t protect Israel, I don’t know who will.

  39. #42
    On January 23rd, 2009 at 10:28 am, granite said:

    On January 23rd, 2009 at 10:13 am, Rogue Cheddar said:

    Excellent!!

    To paraphrase Dean Wormer:

    “Sissified, ignorant/arrogant, and selfish is no way to go through life, young socialists/statists/existentialists/etc.”

  40. #43
    On January 23rd, 2009 at 10:28 am, b-cat said:

    If God doesn’t protect Israel, I don’t know who will.

    He will, but not us necessarily.

  41. #44
    On January 23rd, 2009 at 10:29 am, Rogue Cheddar said:

    On January 23rd, 2009 at 10:24 am, wighttrasch said:
    Rogue Cheddar–

    The time has come for someone to put their foot down. And that foot is me.

    :wink:

  42. #45
    On January 23rd, 2009 at 10:30 am, walterc said:

    #27, This is actually a good idea. Then the polar bears could eat while the polar ice is too thin to hunt seals from global warming. /sarc

  43. #46
    On January 23rd, 2009 at 10:34 am, alexwest said:

    If this cheddar-head succeeds in bringing those freaks to PA I am getting the Heck outta here. Don’t care if I am currently clear across the state; I would be living with the deranged guarding the dangerous.

  44. #47
    On January 23rd, 2009 at 10:36 am, PKAmmoTroop said:

    Ignorance. Sheer bloody minded ignorance. Ignorance the kind of which that made Rachael Cory the Patron Saint of Road Pizza.

    If these rabid animals get brought into this country their mindless rage will infect the other prisoners they come in contact with.

    And of course pathetic feckless lawyers looking to advance their careers will insure that these terrorists are tried in criminal court which means that information gathered by the CIA can’t be used thanks to the Clinton Abomination.

    Personally I’d like someone to make the case that bringing these animals into the US constitutes an act of terror by itself, then toss Murtha in a cage with them. Let Michael Vic be their warden.

  45. #49
    On January 23rd, 2009 at 10:40 am, jbh45 said:

    On January 23rd, 2009 at 9:36 am, nacho475 said:
    the last few days have felt like a really bad dream. i’m ready to wake up now!!!

    Unfortunately the drones that voted this REGIME into office won’t WAKE UP until they have a Jihadist GUN pointed to their head!!!!!!!!!!

  46. #50
    On January 23rd, 2009 at 10:40 am, b-cat said:

    Who knew hope and change would bring corruption and folly?

  47. #51
    On January 23rd, 2009 at 10:42 am, Rogue Cheddar said:

    Neidermeyer: [to Kent] Redo those buttons! Dress that belt buckle! Straighten that cap! And goddamn it, tuck up those pyjamas! Attention! Eyes front! What’s that on your chest, mister?
    Kent: It’s a pledge pin, sir.
    Neidermeyer: A pledge pin! On your uniform?

    Speaking of sissified, ignorant,arrogant,and selfish,young socialists,statists,existentialists,etc.

  48. #52
    On January 23rd, 2009 at 10:43 am, iamsaved said:

    With all the “free” legal services the terrorists will receive, it’s little wonder why the legal community is chomping at the bit to get those jihadists on American soil. They want to get their hands on some of those “stimulus” funds.

    Remember, the Obama administration is against any and all types of profiling. There will be no Jihadist profiling while he is President. If a Jihadist with a heavy, winter coat in the middle of summer enters a Christian Church service, you are to pay no attention to that man (unless wearing an abaya (burka) then use the term woman). That would be a shameful example of profiling according to our liberal friends.

    Liberal Battle Cry – Release the Terrorists! Prosecute Bush!

  49. #53
    On January 23rd, 2009 at 10:45 am, right4life said:

    good, I think they should be released, conditional upon staying in deep blue areas of the country….

  50. #56
    On January 23rd, 2009 at 10:52 am, Politicalguano said:

    John Murtha is a traitor, coward, and crook. I only hope he lives long enough to be imprisoned for one of his crimes, or to have a one-on-one with his Al-Qaeda constituents. Just because he works for Al-Qaeda doesn’t mean they won’t cut his head off – they hate cowards and traitors even more than we do.
    I have publicly stated that anyone who knowingly aids terrorists in any way which ultimately results in the same terrorists harming me or my family will, “regret it with extreme prejudice.” There is a price to be paid by those who would empower these death worshiping maniacs. I hope Lynne Stewart gets to meet one of the family member’s of those murdered by her actions so that before her death, she learn the difference between law and justice.
    PS: I wonder if she ever took a bath how large the fish kill would be downstream?

  51. #57
    On January 23rd, 2009 at 10:54 am, Ed Mahmoud abu al-Kahoul said:

    Lynne Stewart worked with al Qaeda terrorists for the same reason Russia runs interference, and even provides technical support and even anti-aircraft systems to Iran: despite having widely different ideologies, they have a common hated enemy. US.

  52. #58
    On January 23rd, 2009 at 11:00 am, FamilyMan said:

    WOW
    Michelle said Murtha is
    King of Pork
    money-grubbing
    security-undermining fool
    ignorant
    unabashed greed
    lifelong edifice complex
    pork grabber
    shameless politician
    lives in fantasy world
    John Murtha doesn’t give a damn
    THIS IS A GOOD REMINDER TO NEVER GET ON THE WRONG SIDE OF OUR MICHELLE.

  53. #59
    On January 23rd, 2009 at 11:04 am, DBNinKY said:

    Who will be accountable…when Gitmo recidivists wage war anew once released?

    Simple: every Democrat associated with Gitmo’s premature closing and subsequent release of these dehumanized monsters back on the streets.

    The Obama administration is off to whiz-bang start at continuing President Bush’s record of keeping us safe! Why would they even think of closing Gitmo w/o first having a viable plan to deal effectively w/ the detainees already in place?

    Are they that beholding to the Left, that they would place honoring an inane promise to close Gitmo above the American public’s safety?

    Good to know we rate below the wishes of D-Kos and Media Matters w/ the Obama administration!

  54. #60
    On January 23rd, 2009 at 11:05 am, On-my-soap-box said:

    On January 23rd, 2009 at 9:46 am, Ed Mahmoud abu al-Kahoul said:
    Hooray!

    (p)MSNBC proudly informs us Bush’s War on Terror is over!

    Put a muslim in the White House…what can you expect?

  55. #61
    On January 23rd, 2009 at 11:05 am, swmntman said:

    …but if we move the enemy-combatants into the US and give them trials, where are we going to find an impartial jury? Oh wait – how about Washington DC – there are a whole lot of folks that just moved in that know NOTHING about the war on terror. Problem solved.

  56. #62
    On January 23rd, 2009 at 11:07 am, Rogue Cheddar said:

    On January 23rd, 2009 at 11:00 am, FamilyMan said:
    WOW
    Michelle said Murtha is

    Just think what Michelle would say if she had the politeness and upbringing of say, The Daily Kos.

  57. #63
    On January 23rd, 2009 at 11:08 am, rocketman said:

    President Bush made a big mistake in not closing Gitmo and returning all the innocent terrorists to their home countries–before the O’Bummer came to power. Our military could have gotten some second shots at them someday.
    ***
    It would have been a lot better than what will happen next–in our home country with hundreds of millions of taxpayer dollars in costs to care for them and to pay their lawyers.
    ***
    Hindsight sure works a lot better than foresight.
    ***
    John Bibb

  58. #64
    On January 23rd, 2009 at 11:16 am, crashemt said:

    It will take a while but its coming.

    You seriously underestimate the enemy. You also underestimate how lucky and determined our security forces (Military, CIA, DHS, FBI, Local and State PD) have been in preventing the next attack. Prevented, in fact, with the very tools our current president, CIA director, and NSA want us to stop using.

    If it does take a while, then I worry it will be HUGE. Now that we have replaced the rocks that our enemy used to hide under, I wonder how long it will take (weeks, maybe months) before the tactics we see in the Middle East, Israel, India, Indonesia, or even on the DC Beltway or outside CIA headquarters not that long ago become daily occurances here.

    My recurring nightmare is that I am driving along in to one of our normal traffic jams…normal, until I realize there are guys walking down the highway shooting in to cars. I always wake up just before they get to my car…

  59. #66
    On January 23rd, 2009 at 11:21 am, iamsaved said:

    Minor Correction:

    Put a Kenyan-born muslim in the White House…what can you expect?

  60. #67
    On January 23rd, 2009 at 11:26 am, granite said:

    On January 23rd, 2009 at 11:04 am, DBNinKY said:

    Are they that beholding to the Left, that they would place honoring an inane promise to close Gitmo above the American public’s safety?

    Good to know we rate below the wishes of D-Kos and Media Matters w/ the Obama administration!

    I was about to ask you if that was a trick question, or if you were being tongue-in-cheek; then I saw your last sentence, which answered my question.

    I agree with you.
    Of course B. Hussein Obama and the rest of his gang are beholden to the Left socialists.
    They are all socialists, after all.

  61. #68
    On January 23rd, 2009 at 11:27 am, Buy Danish said:

    Brilliant work, Michelle. Thanks for reminding us about Lynn Stewart, and the very real consequences of her traitorous acts.

    And I love “edifice complex”.

  62. #69
    On January 23rd, 2009 at 11:29 am, iamsaved said:

    Want to see a good example of an “edifice complex”? Go to West Virginia and see all the Byrd droppings.

  63. #71
    On January 23rd, 2009 at 11:41 am, Cosmo said:

    RedDog said:

    American patriots have a long row to hoe.

    My hoe is actually referred to as a “boomstick” and I’m and avid “gardener.”

    Let’s plow.

  64. #72
    On January 23rd, 2009 at 11:41 am, Cosmo said:

    “an” avid gardener.

    Apparently not an avid speller.

  65. #73
    On January 23rd, 2009 at 12:08 pm, frostrt said:

    On January 23rd, 2009 at 11:16 am, crashemt said:
    It will take a while but its coming.
    You seriously underestimate the enemy. You also underestimate how lucky and determined our security forces (Military, CIA, DHS, FBI, Local and State PD) have been in preventing the next attack. Prevented, in fact, with the very tools our current president, CIA director, and NSA want us to stop using.

    If it does take a while, then I worry it will be HUGE. Now that we have replaced the rocks that our enemy used to hide under, I wonder how long it will take (weeks, maybe months) before the tactics we see in the Middle East, Israel, India, Indonesia, or even on the DC Beltway or outside CIA headquarters not that long ago become daily occurances here.

    My recurring nightmare is that I am driving along in to one of our normal traffic jams…normal, until I realize there are guys walking down the highway shooting in to cars. I always wake up just before they get to my car…

    ————————————–

    Wow, I’m worried about you. I share your concern with Obama’s moves; I just pray he will think VERY CAREFULLY about what’s to be done with the detainees once out of Gitmo.

    But your recurring nightmare . . . you may have been thinking about this too much. I don’t know if you believe in any kind of religion or the power of prayer, but if you do, may I suggest that you pray – HARD – for (yes) President Obama, for the conversion of the Jihadists (if anything can open their eyes and hearts and turn them away from the path they are headed down, it is the Divine Power), and for Divine protection for our country. The Divine Power doesn’t care what our President or our government does or does not do.

  66. #74
    On January 23rd, 2009 at 12:17 pm, AlohaGuy said:

    So we close a perfectly good facility so that we can pay for and build another one. Demo stupidity – check.

    Note – take no prisoners. Check.

  67. #75
    On January 23rd, 2009 at 12:20 pm, AlohaGuy said:

    My recurring nightmare is that I am driving along in to one of our normal traffic jams…normal, until I realize there are guys walking down the highway shooting in to cars.

    We need to defend the 2nd Amendment. In my dream I see people shooting back from cars, houses and businesses. Which reminds me – where’s my M4?

  68. #76
    On January 23rd, 2009 at 12:26 pm, frostrt said:

    On January 23rd, 2009 at 12:20 pm, AlohaGuy said:
    My recurring nightmare is that I am driving along in to one of our normal traffic jams…normal, until I realize there are guys walking down the highway shooting in to cars.
    We need to defend the 2nd Amendment. In my dream I see people shooting back from cars, houses and businesses. Which reminds me – where’s my M4?

    ————————————-

    Love thine enemies . . . and be prepared if they are bound and determined to kill you. I may become a “gun-totin mama” if things get dicey enough.

    So far, our new Pres hasn’t touched the 2nd Amendment (as busy as he’s been). Maybe it’ll slip his mind? We can dream.

  69. #77
    On January 23rd, 2009 at 12:44 pm, Milwaukee Mike said:

    Who will be accountable when these prosecutions run amok? When convicted jihadis wreak bloody havoc from behind bars? And when Gitmo recidivists wage war anew once released?

    Bush, of course!

  70. #78
    On January 23rd, 2009 at 12:47 pm, sonofdy said:

    So far, our new Pres hasn’t touched the 2nd Amendment (as busy as he’s been). Maybe it’ll slip his mind? We can dream.

    He has a list. Today he re-activated funding for forgien abortions.

  71. #79
    On January 23rd, 2009 at 12:54 pm, Milwaukee Mike said:

    Bush’s War on Terror is over!

    I wonder who won…

    Change the terrorists can now believe in. I hope we can survive

  72. #80
    On January 23rd, 2009 at 1:17 pm, right_on said:

    If we WERE to allow Jihadists to be brought into the United States and housed in a Maximum Security Prison, what better place for them than in a facility named after the King Of Pork? Can you imagine their reaction? “No…no…it is unclean! Please dirty American rats…do not do this…it is inhumane to put us in a place that is not halal! I-e-e-e-h-h-h!”

    Proper naming of such a facility is paramount. Perhaps, “Porky’s Penthouse.” Or, “Pork Chop Towers.” “The Pig Sty?” “Pork Butt Estates?” And instead of the standard “call to prayers,” pre-recorded sounds of pigs squealing be played. Lunchtime could be announced with the call, “Sou-i-i-e-e!”

    Of course, a real pig farm should surround the facility, thus assuring complete security. The resulting pig manure could be composted for their vegetable garden (ya know, for “rehab”), and the porky methane gas used for electricity generation.

    This could be a real “Hell on Earth” reality for these guys. Naturally, this will never happen. The progressive liberals running the country will condemn this kind of proposal as insensitive to their religion, and the various Human Rights groups will complain that “everyone” deserves common decency, humane treatment, kindness and understanding, access to the seemingly bottomless U.S. coin purse, and naturally, a defined path to citizenship!

  73. #81
    On January 23rd, 2009 at 1:21 pm, Republicanvet said:

    On January 23rd, 2009 at 10:08 am, Send_Me said:
    Anyone see any downsides to this plan?

    None. But then this is Urkel shutting down Gitmo, so none of what you said will ever happen.

    I would like to see all these America-hating shysters who line up to defend the jihadis have to travel there and stay at less than 5 star accommodations, but it will never happen since the left would whine about it being so hard for them to have access to whatever they pull out of their azz in defense of their buddies.

  74. #82
    On January 23rd, 2009 at 1:25 pm, lgm said:

    Ed Mahmoud abu al-Kahoul said (#14):

    (p)MSNBC proudly informs us Bush’s War on Terror is over!

    Thank goodness. The Keystone cops have gone home. We have professionals at work again. Maybe now we can catch us some bad guys, rather than filling Guantanamo Bay Prison with random pickups most of whom (not all!) are innocent.

  75. #83
    On January 23rd, 2009 at 1:27 pm, Republicanvet said:

    On January 23rd, 2009 at 10:19 am, sonofdy said:

    This move was just a stupid as obama demanding that Israel open its border up for hamas suicide bombers to get through.

    It certainly is, and more because I cannot believe he has studied any of this enough to realize what the implications will be, which suggests he is doing solely as a political bone to the raving lunatics in his party.

    I knew these jackasses were dangerous, and they are wasting no time in proving it.

  76. #84
    On January 23rd, 2009 at 1:27 pm, Elm Creek Smith said:

    On January 23rd, 2009 at 10:24 am, Ed Mahmoud abu al-Kahoul said:
    If God doesn’t protect Israel, I don’t know who will.

    Physics, fission, and possibly fusion.

    ECS

  77. #85
    On January 23rd, 2009 at 1:29 pm, Elm Creek Smith said:

    On January 23rd, 2009 at 1:25 pm, lgm said:
    Thank goodness. The Keystone cops have gone home. We have professionals at work again. Maybe now we can catch us some bad guys, rather than filling Guantanamo Bay Prison with random pickups most of whom (not all!) are innocent.

    You’re an idiot.

    ECS

  78. #86
    On January 23rd, 2009 at 1:30 pm, Republicanvet said:

    On January 23rd, 2009 at 1:25 pm, lgm said:

    Ed Mahmoud abu al-Kahoul said (#14):

    (p)MSNBC proudly informs us Bush’s War on Terror is over!

    Thank goodness. The Keystone cops have gone home. We have professionals at work again. Maybe now we can catch us some bad guys, rather than filling Guantanamo Bay Prison with random pickups most of whom (not all!) are innocent.

    So you have reviewed all the cases and interviewed each of them to determine they are innocent?

    Way to smear the soldier who risked their lives catching them.

    Professionals who think there are 57 states?

    It really doesn’t take you long to show how shockingly ignorant you are lgm does it?

    By the way, do you have a blog somewhere?

  79. #87
    On January 23rd, 2009 at 1:36 pm, frostrt said:

    On January 23rd, 2009 at 12:47 pm, sonofdy said:
    So far, our new Pres hasn’t touched the 2nd Amendment (as busy as he’s been). Maybe it’ll slip his mind? We can dream.
    He has a list. Today he re-activated funding for forgien abortions.

    ————————————–

    I’m aware of that, unfortunately. I’m also aware of the March for Life; the pro-life voice obviously has not been and will not be silenced.

  80. #88
    On January 23rd, 2009 at 1:37 pm, right_on said:

    Just a reminder folks…long term abuse of THC (tetra-hydra-cannabinol) causes delusion, paranoia, flights of fancy, and a collapse of mental acuity. Please be kind to our resident morons…they really can’t help it.

  81. #89
    On January 23rd, 2009 at 1:37 pm, Republicanvet said:

    On January 23rd, 2009 at 11:05 am, swmntman said:

    …but if we move the enemy-combatants into the US and give them trials, where are we going to find an impartial jury? Oh wait – how about Washington DC – there are a whole lot of folks that just moved in that know NOTHING about the war on terror. Problem solved.

    Impartial jury? From a pool of nitwits who just put Urkel in the WH and re-elected Murtha?

    A jury of those morons would like award damages to the jihadi at the end of the trial.

  82. #90
    On January 23rd, 2009 at 1:42 pm, Republicanvet said:

    On January 23rd, 2009 at 12:44 pm, Milwaukee Mike said:

    Who will be accountable when these prosecutions run amok? When convicted jihadis wreak bloody havoc from behind bars? And when Gitmo recidivists wage war anew once released?

    Bush, of course!

    I wouldn’t be surprised if Bush were blamed for collecting them at Gitmo as opposed to doing something else with them.

    The left would never specify what that something else would be of course.

  83. #91
    On January 23rd, 2009 at 1:48 pm, Cosmo said:

    I’ll bet those jihadis never thought that “72 virgins” meant “72 dudes named Bubba.”

    Maybe it got lost in the translation…

  84. #92
    On January 23rd, 2009 at 1:51 pm, sonofdy said:

    lgm #74 you do know all of the guys left were all caught actualy shooting at amercians soldiers or have admited to being part of 9/11 right? Wait, you aren’t a truther are you????

  85. #93
    On January 23rd, 2009 at 1:52 pm, Salt said:

    On January 23rd, 2009 at 1:25 pm, lgm said:

    Thank goodness. The Keystone cops have gone home.

    It’s the same military on the ground today as it was last week before the inauguration. Not only that, but the Secretary of Defense is the same man.

    Are you really this unreasonable in real life?

    Maybe now we can catch us some bad guys, rather than filling Guantanamo Bay Prison with random pickups most of whom (not all!) are innocent.

    On this, we might agree. Except in my version, the military eliminates the terrorist threat through overwhelming force. In short, I’m not so much concerned about “catching us some bad guys” as I am eliminating the threat of their existence completely.

    Our proud and effective military is not a police force. Let’s stop pretending that they should be.

  86. #94
    On January 23rd, 2009 at 2:00 pm, sonofdy said:

    LGM doesn’t really think that the military is going to magicaly become different or the intelligence services magicaly more informed just because the one acceded to the throne and took away alot of thier tools does he?

    liberal “logic”

  87. #95
    On January 23rd, 2009 at 2:13 pm, thetoysurgeon said:

    What a traitor! When Obama OKs amnesty to all the illegals in this country a white person nor the GOP will never win the presidency ever again. Its all over for whitey. Its amazing how 13% of the population get all the earmarks, benefits and welfare at the remaining 87% expense. One day whitey will have enough but it will be too late them.. Hows that new discrimination taste whitey? How’s it feel to have the shoe on the other foot.

  88. #96
    On January 23rd, 2009 at 2:13 pm, Republicanvet said:

    This just posted on Yahoo:

    Report: Ex-Gitmo detainee joins al-Qaida in Yemen

    Another innocent huh LGM?

  89. #97
    On January 23rd, 2009 at 2:21 pm, Republicanvet said:

    From the linked article above:

    Al-Shihri’s case highlights the complexity of Obama’s decision to shut down the detention center within a year despite the absence of rehabilitation programs for ex-prisoners in some countries, including Yemen. The Pentagon also has said more former ex-detainees appear to be returning to the fight against the U.S. after their release.

    Rep. Jane Harman, D-California, who heads the House Homeland Security subcommittee on intelligence, said the reports about al-Shihri should not slow the Obama administration’s determination to quickly close the prison.

    “What it tells me is that President Obama has to proceed extremely carefully. But there is really no justification and there was no justification for disappearing people in a place that was located offshore of America so it was outside the reach of U.S. law,” she told CBS’s “The Early Show.”

    But Rep. Pete Hoekstra, of Michigan, the top Republican on the House Intelligence Committee, criticized the executive order Obama signed Thursday to close the facility as “very short on specifics.”

    Interviewed on the same program, he said there are indications that as many as 10 percent of the men released from Guantanamo are “back on the battlefield. They are attacking American troops.”

    The militant Web statement said al-Shihri’s identity was revealed during a recent interview with a Yemeni journalist. That journalist, Abdelela Shayie, told The Associated Press in a telephone interview on Friday that 35-year-old Saudi man had joined the kingdom’s rehabilitation program after his release and got married before leaving for Yemen.

    Shayie said al-Shihri told him that several other former Guantanamo detainees had also come to Yemen to join al-Qaida.

    We are so screwed with such stupid people currently running the government.

  90. #99
    On January 23rd, 2009 at 2:26 pm, Speakup said:

    Good, tough, richly deserved, hit’em between the eyes article.

  91. #100
    On January 23rd, 2009 at 2:28 pm, Republicanvet said:

    Oh, and LGM, these are the people that were held at Gitmo, then released. If this guy was released with the evidence against him, what evidence do they have against those still held?

    According to the Defense Department, al-Shihri was stopped at a Pakistani border crossing in December 2001 with injuries from an airstrike and recuperated at a hospital. Within days of his release, he became one of the first detainees sent to Guantanamo.

    Al-Shihri allegedly traveled to Afghanistan after the Sept. 11 attacks, provided money to other fighters and trained in urban warfare at a camp north of Kabul, according to a summary of the evidence against him from U.S. military review panels at Guantanamo.

    He also was accused of meeting extremists in Iran and briefing them on how to enter Afghanistan, according to the documents.

    Care to revise your asinine depiction of them as “most of them innocents” randomly picked up?

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