Comments on: “Rehab:” Gitmo recidivists thumb their noses in new video

By: Michelle Malkin » Yemen, Gitmo, and jihadi revolving doors

Michelle Malkin » Yemen, Gitmo, and jihadi revolving doors — Tue, 05 Jan 2010 20:25:01 +0000

[...] January 2009, the two “rehabilitated” recidivists released a video vowing to wage jihad to “aid the [...]

By: Indefinite Detention: Obama’s Problem with Gitmo Terrorists « Frugal Café Blog Zone

Thu, 09 Jul 2009 15:13:03 +0000

[...] of “torture” photos and No more O-Kumbaya: Gunmen attack US embassy in Yemen and “Rehab:” Gitmo recidivists thumb their noses in new video and The John Murtha Jihadi Correctional Facility and Here’s your jihadi recidivism and One [...]

By: “Paradiso Guantánamo” and Beauty Queens… Much More Than Meets the Eye « Frugal Café Blog Zone

Tue, 16 Jun 2009 21:08:11 +0000

[...] indefinite detention can continue and No more O-Kumbaya: Gunmen attack US embassy in Yemen and “Rehab:” Gitmo recidivists thumb their noses in new video and The John Murtha Jihadi Correctional Facility and Here’s your jihadi recidivism and One [...]

By: Pentagon Report: Ex-Gitmo Detainees Return to Terrorism » Right Pundits

Pentagon Report: Ex-Gitmo Detainees Return to Terrorism » Right Pundits — Wed, 27 May 2009 05:55:42 +0000

[...] in a video message that they were leaders of ‘al Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula’, a new terrorist [...]

By: Obambo sez releasing Gitmo apes will backfire, but hey, if we don’t uphold our Constitution and our values, that will make us less safe » Winds Of Jihad

Mon, 02 Feb 2009 22:28:34 +0000

[...] that we will be attacked again, as this misleading Reuters headline claims, yes, the chances are good they will attack us again, but hey: lets release them anyway and worry about it [...]

By: Soccer Dad

Soccer Dad — Sun, 01 Feb 2009 12:02:07 +0000

Shiny happy dhimmi – #11…

Blogs to read while watching the crocodiles eat.* 1) Al-Hopiyah, Al-Changiyah! Sometimes even Hope ‘n change isn’t enough. Even if you write a really nice self deprecating letter. The problem wasn’t unilateralism, in was insufficient self-loathing. …

By: Radio Vice Online

Radio Vice Online — Wed, 28 Jan 2009 21:57:05 +0000

Rehabbed Guantanamo terrorists buy video camera…

Two former guests at Camp Delta – it is now confirmed – are back in the fight after progressing through an otherwise successful Saudi rehabilitation program for jihadists after their release from Guantanamo.

This is not surprising since there is a g…

By: The Nobama Blog » Blog Archive » Easy Solution to Guantanamo Detainee Relocation

Wed, 28 Jan 2009 15:09:53 +0000

[...] Gitmo detainees now that President Obama has vowed to close the camp in a year. Since many of the released prisoners long to return to the Jihad, I have a solution. Load them all up on a C5 transport, fly them back to Afghanistan, strap a [...]

By: This Is What Happens When You Let Detainees Out Of Gitmo « Beltway Snark

This Is What Happens When You Let Detainees Out Of Gitmo « Beltway Snark — Tue, 27 Jan 2009 13:42:14 +0000

[...] Is What Happens When You Let Detainees Out Of Gitmo Jump to Comments They go back their former lives, except with a much higher coolness factor to their buddies. Two former [...]

By: jamesgreenidge

jamesgreenidge — Tue, 27 Jan 2009 01:18:48 +0000

Sorry, meant “cease all the pious bull”. This issue just froths me!

James Greenidge
Queens, NY

By: jamesgreenidge

jamesgreenidge — Tue, 27 Jan 2009 01:16:34 +0000

Wish folks would cease the all the pious ball. What it all comes down to is this; is a terrorist’s sprained thumb worth your daughter’s life (getting crushed, gassed, burned alive, etc.)?

“For the want of a tweaked toe a city was lost…”

May we never get this low thinking so highly of murderers.

James Greenidge
Queens New York

By: Worrisome executive moves in first days of the Obama presidency « Wellsy’s World

Tue, 27 Jan 2009 00:27:42 +0000

[...] Update: Patterico comments on the reversal of the Mexico City Policy. And two more released Gitmo detainees brag about rejoining the fight. [...]

By: corkie

corkie — Tue, 27 Jan 2009 00:07:18 +0000

On January 26th, 2009 at 5:00 pm, chapoutier said:

Was there anything remotely ambiguous about the example I cited? Did the US government not claim waterboarding as torture? Are you really claiming they said something to the effect of “X was tortured. They did a, b and c to him.” and claim they were only defining torture as a and b?

You tell me. Do you consider random kicking torture? Unacceptable mistreatment yes, but kicking someone certainly isn’t torture. Unless you think that Jean-Claude Van Damme and Jackie Chan movies are full of on-screen torture. Unless you think that grade school girls are torturing each other when they engage in physical spats.

If you want, I am perfectly willing to concede that there must be some element of coersion in order for any act to be torture. That a mere physical description of the act is insufficient.

Yes, I want. But you really didn’t answer my question regarding a “non-coerced” (we’ll explore this definition later) version of the practice. I didn’t ask if it would be defined as torture. I asked if it would be defined as water boarding.

By: chapoutier

chapoutier — Mon, 26 Jan 2009 22:00:32 +0000

Additionally, much of those sources were describing acts in addition to water boarding.

Was there anything remotely ambiguous about the example I cited? Did the US government not claim waterboarding as torture? Are you really claiming they said something to the effect of “X was tortured. They did a, b and c to him.” and claim they were only defining torture as a and b?

Would two identical practices be defined differently if one was voluntary and the other was not?

Is forcibly tying someone up and whipping the hell out of them the same as someone going to and paying a dominatrix?

If you want, I am perfectly willing to concede that there must be some element of coersion in order for any act to be torture. That a mere physical description of the act is insufficient.

By: corkie

corkie — Mon, 26 Jan 2009 21:37:15 +0000

On January 26th, 2009 at 3:53 pm, chapoutier said:

I approve interrogation techniques that are not torture. There may be some blurry lines as to what is and what is not. Is a stress position for 1 hour torture? What about 24?

Is a stress position for 1 hour torture? Gee, I don’t know. You tell me. If we find out that Obama provides written authorization for government interrogators to support stress positions for 1 hour would you consider that torture?