What else is in Pelosi’s recession rescue toolbag?
As you’ve all heard, Nancy Pelosi defended contraception funding in the Democrats’ stimulus bill over the weekend. Abortion cuts costs:
STEPHANOPOULOS: Hundreds of millions of dollars to expand family planning services. How is that stimulus?
PELOSI: Well, the family planning services reduce cost. They reduce cost. The states are in terrible fiscal budget crises now and part of what we do for children’s health, education and some of those elements are to help the states meet their financial needs. One of those – one of the initiatives you mentioned, the contraception, will reduce costs to the states and to the federal government.
STEPHANOPOULOS: So no apologies for that?
PELOSI: No apologies. No. We have to deal with the consequences of the downturn in our economy.
Up next: Emergency funding for suicide manuals and euthanasia education.
We have to deal with the consequences of the downturn in our economy.
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Greg Pollowitz includes a fuller portion of the transcript and points out more San Fran Nan Pelosi whoppers:
PELOSI: No apologies. No. we have to deal with the consequences of the downturn in our economy. Food stamps, unemployment insurance, some of the initiatives you just mentioned. What the economists have told us from right to left: There is more bang for the buck, a term they use, by investing in food stamps and in unemployment insurance than in any tax cut.
Nonetheless, we are committed to the tax cuts because they do have a positive impact on the economy, even though not as big as the investments.
And here’s what Stephanopoulos asked next:
STEPHANOPOULOS: The crisis in America’s financial institutions is not abating, either. And administration officials have signaled that they might need billions more from the Congress to direct to the banks. Are you open to that?
So Stephanopoulos lets two whoppers from Pelosi fly right on by: One, there’s no follow-up question as to how having fewer children—fewer workers, fewer taxpayers—would be good for the U.S. economy in the long term. Two, Pelosi in the course of two sentences totally flips on her view on tax cuts. Stephanopoulos should have asked, “Nancy, if you and your mystery economists ‘from right to left’ really think there is more ‘bang for the buck’ with government spending than with tax cuts, then why have the tax cuts at all?”
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Anyone else think Pelosi was just rambling???
What fantasyland do these people live in?
How long will it be, based on her logic, until someone decides that it is more cost effective to “help” the elderly “pass”? They are not paying taxes, and are drawing from government programs after all.
California and that is my final answer!
“Remember…
Help control the people population…
Have your wife spayed or nuetered.”
–Bob Barker
This is an action that keeps (D) voters on the rolls. The food stamps also give them added currency to buy….., something other than food.
I know that people need help at one time or another, but I just can’t see how it’s “stimulus” to pay someone not to work.
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I was thinking the exact same thing. Do they just not want future generation tax contributors? It’s akin to the stop smoking initiative. “We want everyone to stop smoking, but we need the taxes from tobacco to pay for our “Universal” health care. =\
Stefonypolitics is still a shill.
There’s only one tool in the toolbag: massive spending. They’re Democrats.
Like it’s said, when the only tool you know is a hammer, every problem looks like a nail.
I think I saw Dr Jack having dinner with her. Tommorow Pelosi will suggest more money to mandatory euthenasia to any person over 65. Hell, think of all the $$ they could save on Social Security.
George Stephanopoulus’s job isn’t to get to the truth, it’s to provide a Socratic foil to allow Democrats to spew propaganda.
But when WE talk about, say, SCHIP…Democrats lost their minds because WE “don’t care about the children.”
Preventing them from being conceived, or born, on the other hand and you’re a beacon of compassion for children.
Gag me.
Too bad her parents didn’t feel the same way
So logically then, it follows that it would be sound fiscal policy to line people up against a wall and shoot them. That would take care of “contraception, children’s health, education, and some of those elements”, would it not?
What about illegal aliens? In Pelosi’s California, more children are born to illegal aliens than US citizens.
On a somewhat less sarcastic point of view, I managed to watch Pelosi for just a few minutes of this interview. She seemed a bit incoherent and ‘shell shocked’. I suspect something else is comming down the road regarding her.
(To paraphrase my post from another thread):
This California clown is yet one more example of how dangerous, immature, and hypocritical socialists are.
In all socialized medicine programs, the elderly are rationed out of care. It is happening now.
For the good of society (read: the state) the rulers are attempting to determine who should reproduce, and soon it will be who should continue to live. It is a short hop to declaring anyone who opposes the ruling class a subversive who need to be eliminated. First through birth control, then through incarceration and execution. Continuing down this path will destroy the USA.
what part of the budget crises faced by the states is directly related to the programs and aid paid for by the american people for illegal aliens . Maybe would wouldnt have to murder the next generation of americans. If we stopped supporting people that don’t belong here in the first place.
This truly clueless woman is an insult to my intelligence.
I think she should force the car industry to redesign thier entire lines to force new emissions and mpg standards thus forcing companies almost in bankruptcy to spend billions more. Oh wait, never mine, obama already took care of that.
Incoherent and shell shocked is normal. If she ever appeared lucid and rational,that would be notable.
It’s just a porkapelosi of funding for liberal causes designed to keep liberals in power. A trillion dollars in waste and no one seems to care.
Who will pay the bills? Why work when the money is going to be free.
What sort of demented, fantasy world does she live in that she considers this an investment? At the very best food stamps are (or should be) a safety net for the poor. Dems have managed to mangle the meaning of words like fairness, investment, contributions, compassion etc.. to the point that anything they say means something completely different than what the words would normally mean. They have mastered the art of double-speak in a way that would amaze even George Orwell.
If anyone ever questioned whether Pelosi is an idiot, this exchange should erase all doubt. Stephanopoulos should be ashamed of himself for not asking “WTF?”
I’m sure the underlying, unspoken premise is to get birth control in the hands of young, white girls to prevent them from being “punished” with a baby. “People of color” are generally against abortion, seem to be in no big hurry to use contraception, and don’t see teenage pregnancy as a punishment since the government spots their living expenses anyway. This is not a racist statement since we are now in the official “post-racial” phase of America begun on January 20th, around noon, n’est-il pas ainsi?
The Senate and the House all need mandatory drug testing. seriously. I know she’s high, not a doubt in my mind.
I asked this question over on huffpo and the answer was that I am a racist hatemonger.
Is it to late to abort sanfran nan?
“How long will it be, based on her logic, until someone decides that it is more cost effective to “help” the elderly “pass”?”
Mmmmmmmmmm! Goverment Cheese tastes great on Soylent Green crackers. Oh wait, since I am entering my golden years AND am also disabled, I would be next.
She is just adhering to the socialist party rules of bul**h*t begun by that classless occupant of the White House in the 90s who was the first one I heard refer to wastefully spending other peoples’ (read: taxpayers’) money
as “investment”.
Given his lackluster ratings and ABC-Disney’s dwindling revenues, downwardly pressured by the poor economy, I think Steph’s days as host of This Week are numbered. In fact, I don’t see how they’ve afforded to keep him this long; when David Brinkley – an actual journalist with credentials – hosted, This Week was the number one Sunday news show!
have no fear they will get a gov bail out.
Then by that same logic, doesn’t war reduce man-made global warming (fewer humans, fewer emissions)? Does this mean she is now firmly behind the war on terror?
Sarc/
I believe that she and her Congressional cronies believe everything they say. Just like I believe everything the Jihadis say is their “truth”.
There is a certain power of the human Psyche in saying things so often that the truth becomes undecernable from myth. The Democrats, in their 50+ year power play to control the electorate via entitlement bribes, now actually believe that entitlements are a valid and just method for life. They ignore the fact that the resources to pay for such programs must come from somewhere, because the resources have always been there and no longer need to be factored in the equation.
They can no longer do the math on the economy. Their economics have nothing to do with dollars, and hence, the dollar is a cheap commodity whose presence can always be increased by simple majority vote. In this new two column Democrat econimic tabular, a subtraction in the amount of money in the Federal coffer results in an addition in the overall votes column, and hence power and sustainability. The calculation is never carried to the monetary balance side, which now more rapidly clicks away the Trillions of debt we have incurred.
It’s so powerful, even the GOP fell in the last 6 years to the misbelief that the creation of entitlement and pork-barrel spending is the way to gather and hold power. Unfortunately for them, the body politik they represented didn’t feel the same way. You cannot win an election when you drive away from the principles of those that will vote for you
The question now: How long will the American people stand for this new math? What level of unrecoverable pain will we as a republic need to attain before we stop these “feel-good” efforts that only prolong and deepen our problems? How long until we return the tar-and-feather tax trees, have our tea party, and do the other good measures to voice our disapproval of “King Obama”? Or, will the patient dies from the medieval blood-letting, before someone comes to their senses to close the wounds and let healing begin?
I’m trying to figure out the economic stimulus part. Reducing the costs of local government by spending more at the federal level is not going to “Stimulate the economy”.
If your going to fund health care, family planning services etc, then fund it with money targeted to health care and family planning services. But don’t tell me it’s to create jobs and stimulate the economy.
where does Nancy mention abortion? I see talk about contraception and famliy planning. I assume she is likely including abortion, but I would like to see proof that the stimulus money is indeed going to pay for and promote abortions.
Again, I don’t doubt it since this administration has already announced US funding of abortions abroad and the party leaders are pro-abortion.
Illegal aliens cost her home state of CA $10 billion per year.
How will she deal with those “consequences “?
This is why no “progressive” should ever be allowed in a seat of power. She exemplifies just how ignorant and incompetent they really are. And, this is why the illegal immigrants must be grandfathered into their great-mother-of-all socialist states.
“Family Planning” is the alternative double-speak term for abortion. Abortionists never use the term “abortion.” Too confrontational.
Family planning is libspeak for abortion. Just like Family Planning plans no families.
Kind of reminds me of a story that Pravda had in the early 80′s. It stated that the Soviet Union did not have inflation because the people voted not to have it.
That about sums it up for Pelosi and her ilk, don’t you think?
Just like Family Planning plans no families.
Family Planning = Planned Parenthood. Note to self: Preview is not optional.
Yep.
It helps to explain the “Unholy Alliance” discussed in David Horowtz’s book;
and to explain why, right after 9/11, I noticed that the words issuing from the socialists’ mouths and pens were identical to what they were telling us during the cold war, with “Muslims” and “Islam” simply substituted for “Communists” and “Communism”.
Yep again.
As I’ve said before, the Socialists, being essentially parasites, and immature, dangerous, and hypocritical; seem to believe that the prosperity and abundance of
Western civilization are just “there”; that the money is just “there”; that codes of civilized behavior are just “there”.
This also helps to explain their “Unholy Alliance” with Muslims and Islam, which, over ther past 1400 years, have essentially parasitized off Western civilization; and are continuing their wonderful work to the present day.
Agreed.
This is likely die to the seductive attraction of the opposite worldview, to which Socialists, statists, nihilists, hedonists, existentialists, etc. adhere.
This worldview, and thus the Socialists and statists…, acknowledge only the here and now; and revere, as I have said before, only money, sex and power – which can be transformed into each other – hence the Socialists’ obsession with taking and controlling other peoples’ money; sex; thought and speech control; sex; government control of the people; sex; pornography; abortion; sex; the ridicule and destruction of Judeo-Christian culture; sex; narcissism; sexual perversions; dumbing-down of society; sex; moral relativism; sex; situational ethics; sex; taxation of others’ income, but not their protected wealth; sex; etc.
Good questions.
Let us all be strong, conduct ourselves as we must, and pray.
Ugh…and I used “Preview”…
…over the past 1400….
This is likely due to….
Apologies.
…little known fact: Ronald Reagan actually created an almost 3-decade long economic boon from food stamps and unemployment insurance… /sarc off
53% of Americans voted for this horse manure! 53%!! It boggles the mind!
With her continued outspoken pro-abortion views, I really hope she doesn’t have the audacity to present herself for Holy Communion.
The hypocrisy on the left is limitless.
I find her statements appalling…this crap coming out of a woman that has five children and six grandchildren.
When will the Catholic Church excommunicate her?
OK if the stimulus money (spending bill) is going to non whites for rebuilding of the infrastructure as Reich suggest, than all those contraceptives should be going to the minorities. That looks suspiciously RACIST to me on both counts.
You’re on to something, there.
We only want minorities doing that crappy road work. And only the ones that we allow to be born in the first place. There is racism inherent in the left’s system.
So now we don’t only want to ban abortion, but contraceptives too? They aren’t the same thing. She’s not talking about the cost of more people. She’s talking about the costs of treating medical conditions that result from not using contraceptives.
Contraceptives reduce health care costs for women. Condoms also reduce STDs and the costs associated to treat them.
You act like pregnancy carries no health risk, and is some kind of inconvenience, like a rash. For many women it’s a serious, risky, medical condition.
Managing the human population as an investment, racial hygiene or political control is quite acceptable to the socialist mind be it Hitler, Stalin, Mao, Pelosi or the Greek Freak.
Killing the elderly? Not yet, too big a voting bloc. First the children with “severe” birth defects, then the lesser problems (Sparta?), we already have assisted suicide, some stubborn folks may need prodding. Wouldn’t it be kinder to “put down” those poor citizens suffering from mental and physical deformatives, illness or injury? And there are those 25 million unrepentant capitalist Obama and his friend William Ayres fear.
By then the elderly can start to worry, those still alive.
And if socialist do have control of production, distribution, transportation and capital there will not be much any survivors can do to stop them. Clever, aren’t they?
Pelosi, STEPHANOPOULOS, Robert Reich, Obama, Eric Holder are bad people but be careful-they are far from stupid. Joesph Stalin was put in charge of the Secret Police to keep him off the Polit Bureau-Adolf Hitler was appointed Chancellor so better for President Hindenberg to watch him. Some plans do not go well. After millions upon million of abortions perhaps the stench of the death camps will not so too offensive to our Amerika by then.
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That Every Man Be Armed–You Too ladies
Wow, just wow …
“As you’ve all heard”
You act like life carries no health risk, and is some kind of inconvenience, like a disease. For many people, it’s a serious, risky, condition.
Do you mean what you post? Even you…..no, not you I guess, you do mean it. It is amazing that that brain of yours can move your fingers across the keyboard.
Ummm…we’re on the same page; but, was that last ethnic comment necessary, (even if a somewhat clever rhyme)?
Would an Irish, Italian, German, Polish, Hungarian, etc name be similarly commented upon?
I’m a big boy; I’m not sensitive, believe me; but, I’m not blind, either.
There is just so much fail in your statement, I can’t even begin to address it. I can say I do not think it is the responsibility of the .gov via the taxpayers to support the sexual habits of people. I would imagine it would and should fall on the individual to obtain their own contraceptives. If one can not afford it then perhaps abstinence would eliminate any health concerns for those that do not have or cannot afford contraceptives, I dunno, I’m just sayin’. But I for one do NOT approve of my tax dollars being used for this crap. And if you would please, explain how on earth is this supposed to “stimulate” the economy being that it is in the “stimulus” package.
Next from the new administration:
Quietus. You decide when.
No, I just don’t want to pay for yours. Dumbass.
In fact I am okay with women making that choice, I think it should be like any other optional procedure. You know like boob jobs. If you are stupid enough to do it for no good medical reason they pay for it your damn self.
Isn’t this how China justifies their one-child policy (e.g. through “lack of resources” arguments)?
He’s a “journalist”. Besides making sure their hair and makeup look good on TV, what is there about them that involves thought processes?
In keeping with the spirit of Nancy Pelosky’s argument, let’s give her a manual for jumping off bridges. That will cut EVERYONE’S “costs”.
Well, I could be persuaded to contribute to boob jobs if I could help choose the recipients…
hey Nan, if we abort future generations, who’s going to pay for the “stimulus”?
Isn’t nanny Nancy being a racist? A significant proportion of abortion clinics are located in minority and ethnic neighborhoods.
How can preventing new consumers stimulate the economy? With no births what happens to the industries that produce baby and child care products? What about the day care and pre-schools? Who will support the Democrats and their lunatic spending programs. No babies, no future voters.
How can sending money to foreign countries stimulate our economy?
Listen eagle – if your doctor says it is dangerous for you to get pregnant, perhaps you should abstain – you know? Like people with a peanut allergy – they DON”T EAT PEANUTS. If getting prgnant will kill you, then don’t have sex. Why should I provide free contraception for your pleasure? It’s a concept known as personal responsability – completely foreign to liberals – but second nature to us conservatives.
Notice how lefty’s like eaglehasfarted are always saying “If you don’t like abortion, don’t have one” but they are never willing to apply that reasoning to the right of people to keep and bear arms?
She does. Her priest and bishop need to grow a pair and excommunicate her. Along with Kerry, Kennedy, and any other cafeteria “Catholic” who supports abortion. PERIOD.
Oh, ho! And what, pray tell, of the cost of contraceptive-induced illness? The link between chemical birth control and breast cancer (as well as abortion and breast cancer, not to mention depression and PTSD) is something a serious-minded person wouldn’t scoff at.
Or the environmental impact. The pill in our waterways is causing not only problems with aquatic life, but with people (including men) who are now reporting reproductive issues (read: infertility).
There’s a cost to that, too.
But nothing ever stands in the way of liberal’s ultimate goal: more consequence-free sex.
Not the health issues of women. Not the heartbreak of post-abortive women who’ve suffered from lies. Not the environmental impact. Not the involuntary infertility of others.
Nope. None of that can weigh into the discussion.
We’re just against birth control and abortion for no valid reasons.
Pelosi is of the “Just enough of me, way too many of you” crowd. Never mind that there are approximately 35 million aborted children who’d be taxpaying, working citizens right now. The economic problems will be solved by reducing the taxpayer base and the workforce!
Woo hoo for stupid, godless, liberal illogical thinking.
Yep. Forced contraception and sterilization are next on the docket.
And, no doubt, the targets will certainly be pro-life, conservative Christian families who don’t contracept and have more than 1-2 children. Can’t have us theocrats reproducing more than liberals, ya know.
OK I’m totally convinced. Liberals hate the humans race. It it wasn’t for us, the “lion would lay down with the lamb”. The world would be filled with pastel colored butterflies, sparkling clean waterfalls, and Bambi and Thumper frolicking in the forest.
GEEEES!
She’s just high on botox. Nothing like a little neurotoxin to cloud thinking. That’s assuming she had a functioning brain at all.
EQ1,
I don’t know about you, but it drives me crazy that the Church is starting a big push against the FOCA– but yet apparently 56% of Catholics voted for the guy that promised it would be a high priority! Honestly, what were these people thinking?
Nanny Nancy appears to suffer from a Profound Deficiency of Intellectual Synaptic Resources – PDISR. If you read the whole transcript of her interview with ABC’s George Stephanopoulos Nancy is Nuts she sounds like a scatter brained idiot.
They weren’t, quite frankly. Or they are the unfortunate victims of “The Spirit of Vatican 2″ watered-down theology and catechesis that taught cafeteria Catholicism was okay as long as their self-esteem didn’t suffer.
For far too long, liberal clergy – aided by liberal laity – have sough to remake the Church in their image. Which means getting rid of anything truly Catholic and turning the Church into a political entity.
Of course, conservatives are guilty of demonizing the Church, too. Anytime the phrase “social justice” shows up, we’re equated with Mao and Stalin as some weak-kneed liberal types. Which isn’t the truth, either.
Thankfully, with Benedict XVI and a resurgance of the Latin Mass, and a growth in conservative, orthodox parishes/orders/seminaries, the tide is turning again.
What we need are priests unafraid to preach the Catechism, unafraid to call sin a sin, and lay Catholics who adhere to the teachings of the Church need to stop holding our tongues and start speaking up and out in defense of our faith.
No one makes you stay in the Church. If you think her teachings regarding contraception, abortion, gay marriage – whatever – are wrong. You’re free to leave.
My prayer is that Obama comes to recognize the sanctity of life (it has happened miraculously) and that my fellow Catholics who voted for him do the same.
Ruducing immigration, both illegal and legal, will do much more to help the states fiscal budget crises and greatly curtail spending for all of the social programs and for criminal justice, etc.
You’re talking about one of the Dems’ core constituencies. Not going to happen.
…said the Speaker of the House with FIVE CHILDREN…
You can preach abstinence all you like, but people will continue to have sex. It has nothing to do with liberals or conservatives (uh, hello…), it’s just something people do, and there is nothing you can do to change it. Telling people they should abstain does not work (see also…).
“Family planning” is not just abortion, it also includes contraceptives, which actually do a much better job of preventing abortions than all the self-righteous finger-wagging going on here. I’m just sayin’.
Um, huggybear, then if sex is “just something people do”, then they need to be willing to accept the possible consequences of said behavior, with or without contraception (which doesn’t always work as intended). And accepting those consequences should not mean killing an innocent unborn child – who had no CHOICE in the matter.
*Truth is, Nazi Pelosi will not let the SAVEact bill to the floor, which makes E-verify pretty much mandatory; If she wants to see jobs saved and jobs created, make E-verify mandatory for ee’s, contractors, and sub-contractors, and you will soon see full employment by washing out the estimated 7 million illegal aliens holding down jobs that would then be back-filled by Americans and legal aliens looking for work.
Hey EQ, a bit off topic here, but what you said above made me think of the women I saw at the March for Life this year carrying signs which said “I regret my abortion”. It was one of the more moving things I saw. I had to make a difficult choice at one time, when I was still pro-choice even, and I’m so greatful I made the one I did! My daughter changed my life – she’s 17 now and a true light in this world!
Contraception isn’t fool-proof. Condoms break/fall off/etc. The pill fails (or its effects negated by other meds, etc.).
I’m so sick of this notion that “people are just going to do it”. It’s bullsh**.
People are just going to drink and drive. So we can’t have drunk driving laws, right?
People are just going to continue murdering other people. So we can’t have laws prohibiting it, right?
People are just going to continue to abuse other people. So we can’t outlaw it, right?
People are just going to eat whatever they want. So we can’t be concerned about obesity anymore, right?
People are just going to continue to use energy and pollute the planet. So we can’t work toward stopping global warming, right?
I’m sick of selfish, stupid, behavior being chalked up to “they’re just going to do it” mentality. It’s damn time people started taking responsibility for their actions, rather than blaming some made-up bogey men.
The more contraceptive sex that takes place means there will be more failures of the various methods of contraception. Which means more abortion.
Here’s just a brief summary of a study saying the same thing:
In other words, states that tried to “prevent” pregnancy via “family planning” had more abortions than states with less grand “prevention” plans.
Abstinence, when taught properly, is the only fool-proof way to prevent unplanned pregnancies or the transmission of STDs. PERIOD. END OF ARGUMENT.
Agreed. Talk to some of these women. Their stories will absolutely break your heart.
And no one – from Pelosi to the receptionist at Planned Barrenhood to the pro-aborts here – gives a damn about them.
All they care about is abortion disguised as “choice”…any woman who’s story is tragic, uncomfortable, or doesn’t glorify abortion needs to be ignored and the woman demonized.
Which is why I don’t believe a one of them when they say that they have women’s best interests at heart.
Believe me, it will get even better.
God bless you.
She represent those who voted her back in office…just as the Zero represents the left, kumbyu, fools that voted for him.
As we conservative yell, scream and grind our teeth over the now democrapic controlled government, it becomes more obvious where the blame lies…it’s with us for letting the Gingrich conservatives become gluttonous pigs at the trough. Allowing the RNC to become home of the RINO’s. I strongly urge all campaign contribution go directly the candidate of your choice by passing the RNC until if ever they decide to stand for the accepted conservative morals, principles and standards they were known for.
The reality is that the liberals in San Francisco are going to continue to elect Nancy Pelosi to represent them in Congress.
If we want to remove Rep. Pelosi from her position as Speaker of the House, we are going to have to elect a Republican majority in House of Representatives in 2010.
These Republican campaigns need to start NOW!
Please check with your local Republican parties to make sure your districts have strong Republican candidates lined up to run for Congress in 2010!
Pelosi said: “There is more bang for the buck, a term they use, by investing in food stamps and in unemployment insurance than in any tax cut.”
How, exactly, does one “invest” in food stamps? How is “unemployment insurance” an “investment”?
The SCOTUS found the right to an abortion within the constitution (still haven’t figured that out) and based on that, liberals feel that taxpayers should pay for each abortion that a woman wishes to have (it’s a right, after all). Why don’t they want to pay for every gun that I wish to have — after all, that right actually is in the constitution (for you libs out there, it’s called the 2nd Amendment – look it up, it’s a good read).
Obama is a problem because of his views on issues. Nancy is a problem because of total stupidity. Family planning (abortion) will stimulate the economy? I have a bridge I would like to sell to one of these left wing idiots or at least my “sea front” property in Arizona.
On January 26th, 2009 at 11:06 am, WestCoastCoconut said:
On January 26th, 2009 at 11:03 am, procopy said:
What fantasyland do these people live in?
California and that is my final answer!
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I was born there and will be forever grateful to my parents for moving before I was old enough to remember.
Step 1) Roe vs Wade. Step 2) Mandatory abortions, or, as in China, 1 child per couple. Step 3) Euthanasia of social security/medicare recipients. Well, it won’t stimulate the economy, except for funeral homes, but it sure would reduce costs to the states and national government. What next after that? Gulags for political prisoners? Hopefully some will be saved being on food stamps and unemployed.
So, let me get this straight…They basically force us to suckle off the teat of the government through mandatory education and health care for every child. Then, they turn around and say it’s too expensive and that we should cease procreating? WHY NOT, INSTEAD, GET GOVERNMENT’S HAND OUT OF MY CHILI? WON’T THAT ALSO LOWER COSTS?
I’m not an extremely smart guy, but this just seems so obvious. The government is trying to force us all to become so dependent upon them. It’s disgusting.
What a hypocrite Nancy is. She is worried about population control and still advocates opening up the borders down Mexico way? How does she figure the population control will benefit the economy if she favors opening up the borders and inherits millions of illegals. I keep asking demos how does this help the environment?
What a hypocrite Nancy is. She is worried about population control and still advocates opening up the borders down Mexico way? How does she figure the population control will benefit the economy if she favors opening up the borders and inherits millions of illegals. I keep asking demos how does this help the environment?
I keep having a couple of thoughts that won’t go away:
The more educated people get, the fewer children they tend to have. Certain countries (Japan, Russia, France) are already well below their own replacement birth rate and NEED extensive immigration to make up the shortfall. Unfortunately, at least in France, these immigrants tend to be poor, less educated, generous breeders of children, and suckling at the government tit. They are not providing what the society needs, and the society is worse off. Japan does not seem to have a lot of immigration, and their population is heavily overbalanced with the elderly.
Encouraging education will go further toward achieving the desired goals than handing out free condoms or even free abortions: you get people capable of functioning in a greater number of roles than otherwise, and you still get fewer births.
Still, you have to have enough workers to support the elderly. They have to come from somewhere. Do we *really* want all our replacement people to come from immigration? If we do, we better do something to make legal immigration a whole lot easier….and maybe offer a bonus/fast-track to people with higher education.
What’s even scarier is that while the developed world is having a replacement birth rate crisis right now is to look at countries that have birthrates well above the 2.1/woman birthrate required to simply keep population steady. Places like Yemen, Indonesia, Somalia, Zimbabwe, etc. have birthrates upwards of 5/woman. Scary if you ask me.
What’s even scarier is that while the developed world is having a replacement birth rate crisis right now is to look at countries that have birthrates well above the 2.1/woman birthrate required to simply keep population steady. Places like Yemen, Indonesia, Somalia, Zimbabwe, etc. have birthrates upwards of 5/woman. Scary if you ask me.
agenda lunacy over serving the country. do you suppose sh e gets funding from the NOW gang? nah!