Kerry and Gore give global warming skeptics cold shoulder

By Michelle Malkin  •  January 28, 2009 10:52 AM

The Al Gore global warming hearing is taking place right now in D.C. as a light freezing drizzle falls. John Kerry wagged his waggy finger at global warming skeptics:

Former Vice President Al Gore told lawmakers Wednesday morning that the earth is in “grave danger” and that the nation must break its dependence on oil.

In prepared remarks before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, Mr. Gore urged quick passage of President Obama’s stimulus package.

“Climate change will be increasingly central to our foreign policy and national security, and it will be a focal point of this committee’s efforts as well,”said Sen. John Kerry, the committee chairman and the Democratic party’s 2004 pick for president.

Mr. Kerry dismissed the icy weather which framed Mr. Gore’s global warming remarks Wednesday morning.

“And to the naysayers and deniers still out there, let me add: A little snow in Washington does nothing to diminish the reality of this crisis,” he said.

(link)

Iain Murray is liveblogging the hearing with inconveniently truthful asides.

Flashback: 31,072 scientists who won’t be heard by Gore and Kerry.

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  1. #604634
    On January 28th, 2009 at 10:56 am, Jeff2161 said:

    Wow, a snow-job in the Capitol too ?
    :shock:

  2. #604636
    On January 28th, 2009 at 10:57 am, corkie said:

    Predictions:

    In 2009 AGW will be derailed.

    In 2010 former supporters will start to distance themselves from it and attempt to downplay any roll they had played.

  3. #604637
    On January 28th, 2009 at 10:57 am, warden said:

    Manbearpig is coming! I’m super cereal!

  4. #604638
    On January 28th, 2009 at 10:58 am, b-cat said:

    Mr. Kerry dismissed the icy weather

    Proving he is more awesome than Obama, who still has done nothing about the sea level.

  5. #604642
    On January 28th, 2009 at 11:00 am, Jeff2161 said:

    31,072 scientists who won’t be heard by Gore and Kerry

    Truthiness on the hill.

  6. #604644
    On January 28th, 2009 at 11:02 am, cpodug said:

    We CAN break the dependence on oil! All we have to do is harness all the methane produced by the rampant B.S. being spread around by Algore, John F’n Kerry, et al.
    Presto – no more foreign oil! And we have such a vast amount here that we’ll never run out. I see a marvelous new future for DC as the methane capital of the world!

  7. #604645
    On January 28th, 2009 at 11:02 am, taylork said:

    A little snow in Washington does nothing to diminish the reality of this crisis

    It’s hard to diminish the reality of something that was never real in the first place.

  8. #604646
    On January 28th, 2009 at 11:03 am, Gorebot said:

    How to stop Global Warming:

    1). Get Al Gore to shut up.

    2). Turn on the air conditioner.

  9. #604650
    On January 28th, 2009 at 11:03 am, BuckeyeSam said:

    Hey, Al. Come shovel my driveway in Ohio, you turd. What a hoax.

  10. #604652
    On January 28th, 2009 at 11:03 am, pueblo1032 said:

    A little snow may not, but the petition with a whole bunch of Phd signers sure got my attention… These were all persons with doctorates in WEATHER RELATED FIELDS… Gore’s HOUSE OF CARDS is falling apart, and it’s about time…

  11. #604653
    On January 28th, 2009 at 11:03 am, taylork said:

    I wish we could carbon sequester Gore and Kerry.

  12. #604656
    On January 28th, 2009 at 11:06 am, Gorebot said:

    Nobel Prize to whoever can do this:

    Convince libtards that deficit spending is toxic to Mother Earth and that More Gummint creates Global Warming.

    What a major big-time two-fer that would be!

  13. #604657
    On January 28th, 2009 at 11:06 am, FilmLadd said:

    On January 28th, 2009 at 11:03 am, taylork said:

    I wish we could carbon sequester Gore and Kerry.

    Yes! We need to freeze both of these idiots in carbonite, like HAN SOLO…

  14. #604658
    On January 28th, 2009 at 11:07 am, Socky said:

    First the left tried to convince us that falling temperatures were proof of Global Warming. Next, they’ll claim that rising unemployment indicates economic recovery.

  15. #604659
    On January 28th, 2009 at 11:07 am, Jeff2161 said:

    , taylork said:
    I wish we could carbon sequester Gore and Kerry.

    Preferably, at a secure, undisclosed location. :)

  16. #604666
    On January 28th, 2009 at 11:09 am, taylork said:

    Convince libtards that deficit spending is toxic to Mother Earth and that More Gummint creates Global Warming.

    Think of all the trees killed and energy it takes to print that extra money!!!

  17. #604667
    On January 28th, 2009 at 11:10 am, shimauma2 said:

    It’s been proven that everywhere algore speaks gets hit with freezing weather. We could launch him to the moon to solve the “climate change crisis”.

  18. #604672
    On January 28th, 2009 at 11:12 am, ajmontana said:

    “And to the naysayers and deniers still out there, let me add: A little snow in Washington does nothing to diminish the reality of this unbelievable sums of cash we will get from you for this crisis, Hoax we are trying to ram down the worlds throat” he said.

  19. #604673
    On January 28th, 2009 at 11:13 am, BobonStatenIsland said:

    Years ago these wackos would have been restrained with strait-jackets and placed in rooms with padded walls.
    What can you expect when the majority of the citizens supposedly voted to put a Marxist/Socialist in charge of the country.
    Welcome to Bizarro Land.

  20. #604675
    On January 28th, 2009 at 11:14 am, DBNinKY said:

    “And to the naysayers and deniers still out there, let me add: A little snow in Washington does nothing to diminish the reality of this crisis,” he said.

    When I awake in the morning and before I go to bed at night, my first and final thoughts are always on climate change.

    You see, although our house is all electric, its small size usually keeps our heating-electric costs in the nominal range of two to two hundred fifty dollars during a normal winter. However, because this winter has been so especially cold here in KY, our electric costs have skyrocketed – our bill last month was $423 and this month, it is $457.

    So now you see why my mind is so often on climate change: if it gets any colder in KY, my family and I are changing climates to Florida – a.s.a.p!

  21. #604682
    On January 28th, 2009 at 11:17 am, Socky said:
  22. #604683
    On January 28th, 2009 at 11:18 am, Rogue Cheddar said:

    “And to the naysayers and deniers still out there, let me add: A little snow in Washington does nothing to diminish the reality of this crisis,” he said.

    So, Senator Kerry, why the long face?

  23. #604693
    On January 28th, 2009 at 11:23 am, FamilyMan said:

    “The science is all in” “The science is all in” /sarc

  24. #604697
    On January 28th, 2009 at 11:24 am, Gorebot said:

    Kerry, Gore, Pelosi, Reid.

    Put’em all in a closet and let ‘em talk.

    Tap the super-heated air to run turbines, de-toxify the resulting molten biomass by converting it into lumps of inert plasma, then launch any residual sludge into the sun.

    First class ticket to Oslo for me!!!

  25. #604698
    On January 28th, 2009 at 11:26 am, Salt said:

    Isn’t there an old canard about selling ice cubes to an Eskimo?

    Seems somehow appropriate here.

    A little snow in Washington does nothing to diminish the reality of this crisis,” he said.

    Chicago has had several days of sub-zero temperatures this season. It’s been a winter of dead car batteries and frozen pipes. I’d be more than happy to take someone’s share of “global warming” right about now.

  26. #604699
    On January 28th, 2009 at 11:26 am, RedDog said:

    “And to the naysayers and deniers still out there, let me add: A little snow in Washington does nothing to diminish the reality of this crisis,” he said.

    The only crisis is the fact that no one has been able to staunch the toxic spume emanating from your ample blowhole.

  27. #604706
    On January 28th, 2009 at 11:32 am, mattymatt10 said:

    John Kerry actually bears a striking resemblance to Cold Miser.

    On January 28th, 2009 at 10:57 am, warden said:
    Manbearpig is coming! I’m super cereal!

    HA! Awesome. Great episode, right up there with the one where Cartman saves the town from the hippies’ music festival.

  28. #604709
    On January 28th, 2009 at 11:36 am, GraniteMan said:

    DOOM & GLOOM! THE SKY IS FALLING! WOE IS ME!
    What ever happened to American leaders that lead and inspire? Abe, Teddy, Dwight, Ron where are you

  29. #604710
    On January 28th, 2009 at 11:36 am, JohnnyD said:

    Whenever I hear His Goreness or Kerry (or Reid, Pelosi, et al) talk, I’m reminded of the old adage;

    “Better to be thought a fool than to open your mouth and prove it”

    It’s utter madness to think that people actually think they can affect the climate to any degree!

  30. #604713
    On January 28th, 2009 at 11:38 am, rambler said:

    These glogal warming supporters would sooner freeze to death than to admit that their conclusions are based upon greed rather than accurate science.

  31. #604717
    On January 28th, 2009 at 11:40 am, BlameAmericaLast said:

    Interesting…a while back it was all about global warming, but now it’s called “climate change”. Why? Because the warming part turned out to be a hoax, so now whenever we have winter snowstorms, or hurricanes or whatever, they call it climate change.

    Well, duh. Isn’t that what the seasons are for? The minute we get a temporary heat wave, it’s an “A Ha! See? I told you so!” for the Kool Aid drinkers. And then we get snow and ice, and you get the same thing over and over again.

    People…it’s called WEATHER.

  32. #604718
    On January 28th, 2009 at 11:42 am, JohnnyD said:

    It’s utter madness to think that people actually think they can affect the climate to any degree!

    There, that reads better. Even with preview, I make mistakes. It’ll probably be a cold day in He** before I’m perfect.

    Right Al and John?

  33. #604719
    On January 28th, 2009 at 11:42 am, Socky said:

    Interesting…a while back it was all about global warming, but now it’s called “climate change”.

    Because there are enough idiots out there who believe the Earth’s climate was completely static before the invention of the SUV.

  34. #604720
    On January 28th, 2009 at 11:43 am, jbh45 said:

    Former Vice President Al Gore told lawmakers Wednesday morning that the earth is in “grave danger” and that the nation must break its dependence on oil….

    …as his three escalades are parked at the curb running to stay warm for Gore-nut.

  35. #604722
    On January 28th, 2009 at 11:44 am, JohnnyD said:

    OH and btw Michelle, love the pic. It’s so artsy and edgey.

    /sarc

  36. #604726
    On January 28th, 2009 at 11:46 am, DBNinKY said:

    Why? Because the warming part turned out to be a hoax… .

    Complete agreement here! Seriously, did they not think they would be outed by the fact we’re all using our furnaces more and more each winter (ours never stops running when we’re home at night), and paying higher utility bills as a result? Do they think we’ll just believe anything, simply because Gore says it is true?

  37. #604729
    On January 28th, 2009 at 11:48 am, tarpon said:

    Not to worry friends, if the current solar trends continue, and real scientists say they will, it will soon be so cold, the snow piled so high, the glaciers growing so fast, the sea ice getting so thick, that John Kerry will be the only person on the planet who doesn’t think Al Gore is an idiot. Well, except maybe Al Gore, who will still be hawking his carbon offset scams trying to line his pockets.

    Does anybody think it somewhat unseemly to be talking at a Senate truth seeking hearing about a hoax, when you are so heavily invested in the hoax for the money you intend to make? Sort of like the tax cheat as Sec of Treasurer makes perfect sense, doesn’t it.

  38. #604730
    On January 28th, 2009 at 11:50 am, Ed Mahmoud abu al-Kahoul said:

    Watermelons.

    Trying to cripple capitalism in the name of Gaia, our Earth Mother.

  39. #604736
    On January 28th, 2009 at 11:54 am, Ed Mahmoud abu al-Kahoul said:

    The “Little Ice Age” ended, and warming began, just before the beginning of CO2 rises with the “Industrial Revolution”.

    Alaska has glaciers growing for the first time in 200 years, polar ice caps are the thickest in 30 years satellites have been monitoring them, and last week’s study claiming the Antarctic was warming used computer modeled temperatures to “prove” warming because there are few weather stations on Antarctica.

    Other than that, global warming is a real problem.

  40. #604737
    On January 28th, 2009 at 11:54 am, mchristian said:

    Al Gore and John Kerry attempt to whip their believers into a frenzy of fear over global warming while calling conservatives fear-mongers for supporting the war on terrorists. We have been attacked by terrorists and people have died. How many have been killed by so-called AGW?

  41. #604738
    On January 28th, 2009 at 11:54 am, battleaxe said:

    Record high local temperatures in summer are “evidence”, record low temperatures or decreasing global mean temperature is just a blip. Lets just ignore the history that shows that we’ve been in global warming mode for 18000 years (no cavemen SUVs have been found so far to explain this sudden warming trend). Lets ignore the fact that atmospheric CO2 increases with warming even when there are no humans, as Al Gore would say, contaminating Earth.

    The alternative to warming is Ice Age – there is no steady state. If you think warming is bad for us, imagine thousand foot sheets of ice over Chicago.

  42. #604739
    On January 28th, 2009 at 11:54 am, puhiawa said:

    What makes politicians so stupid?

  43. #604741
    On January 28th, 2009 at 11:55 am, cabrerski said:

    To Senator Kerry,

    “Let me add: wagging an arrogant finger in my direction does nothing to show how ignorant and stupid you appear”.

  44. #604744
    On January 28th, 2009 at 11:57 am, Stillwaiting said:

    My favorite part of the Gore story (which MM has pointed out many times) is the amount of “pollution” caused by his constant travel.

    How frequently does Pelosi fly home in her gov’t funded private jet? If only she lived somewhere that had regular commercial flights to and from DC! LOL!

  45. #604755
    On January 28th, 2009 at 12:05 pm, BlameAmericaLast said:

    How frequently does Pelosi fly home in her gov’t funded private jet? If only she lived somewhere that had regular commercial flights to and from DC! LOL!

    She does…San Francisco to DC. There are many United Airlines nonstop flights into Dullus from SFO. She also has a choice of other airports to fly into as well – Reagan, BWI, etc.

    But for the all too important princess, first class isn’t good enough for her.

  46. #604757
    On January 28th, 2009 at 12:06 pm, jamesgreenidge said:

    Small wonder they’re hell-bent hurrying to commit us to $$ Gullible — er, Global Warming “research” so fast. Come 2011 NASA launches MAVEN to Mars; an environmental survey probe which, “if” (likely) it finds the same atmospheric heating patterns found here, will pretty much take mankind off the hook — though to see how much the solar incidence/flux data from other solar probes these last years are NEVER cited in media or Gore/Greens’ rants, makes me wonder whether MAVEN’s going to get the hush-up treatment too! I wish more Americans got concerned about this; bowing to the greens will alter our lifestyles like no one’s business. I fear NASA’s budget will be dancing to the Greens’ tune, like how the military is expected to perform more like souped-up meals-on-wheels around the world. Green-madness! I mean, to think my grandchildren will never know the thrill and scents of burning autumn leaves in the suburbs, or interstate highways unspoiled by vistas of whirling silly windmills, etc, etc.. Sigh.

    James Greenidge
    Queens, New York

  47. #604763
    On January 28th, 2009 at 12:10 pm, J S Ragman said:

    “Climate change will be increasingly central to our foreign policy and national security,

    So is he saying we’re going to be attacked by polar bears, or what?

  48. #604765
    On January 28th, 2009 at 12:10 pm, genso said:

    On January 28th, 2009 at 11:54 am, puhiawa said:

    What makes politicians so stupid?

    They’re not. They think you are.

  49. #604766
    On January 28th, 2009 at 12:11 pm, cicerokid said:

    On January 28th, 2009 at 11:03 am, taylork said:
    “I wish we could carbon sequester Gore and Kerry.”

    Maybe we can freeze them in carbonite like Jabba the Hut did to Han Solo…

  50. #604768
    On January 28th, 2009 at 12:13 pm, Virginia Patriot said:

    Yes, there is climate change. The climate always changes, always has, always will. Where I live in Virginia has been both glacial and tropical. That was before people had even appeared to mess anything up. The factors that affect climate far more than human activity are solar activity, volcanic activity, ocean currents and the elliptical nature of Earth’s orbit around the Sun.

  51. #604770
    On January 28th, 2009 at 12:14 pm, Virginia Patriot said:

    When you figure out how to turn down the sun and cap all the volcanoes, let me know.

  52. #604771
    On January 28th, 2009 at 12:15 pm, Danceswithdachshunds said:

    My favorite place to stay current on the fight against the global warming scam is

    http://icecap.us/

    From the NYT yesterday:
    Growing Divisions Among US Democrats over Climate Policy

    Lastly, I COMMAND YOU TO READ THIS FROM SENATOR INHOFE

  53. #604773
    On January 28th, 2009 at 12:16 pm, mojack420 said:

    warden said:
    Manbearpig is coming! I’m super cereal!

    All hail Manbearpig

  54. #604774
    On January 28th, 2009 at 12:16 pm, FilmLadd said:

    On January 28th, 2009 at 12:11 pm, cicerokid said:

    Maybe we can freeze them in carbonite like Jabba the Hut did to Han Solo…

    I beat ya to it, see above :)

  55. #604775
    On January 28th, 2009 at 12:17 pm, cicerokid said:

    Ten years ago meteorologists referred to “average” temperatures because that’s what they were, averages. They never called them “normal” temperatures because there was no such thing on earth!

    I have noticed The Weather Channel and our local stations calling these temperatures “normal”.
    They’re all in cahouts!

  56. #604776
    On January 28th, 2009 at 12:17 pm, Gorebot said:

    Sometimes I wonder, if Mother Earth could talk, would she say …

    “Get these M-f’ing clowns the hell offa me!!! I’ll heat and cool myself as I GD well please, thank you!!!”

    In the meantime, Mr. Evil Sun says …

    C’mon now, Earthy, just a l’il bit closer now, that’s it…”.

    Wanna make The Almighty laugh? Draw up plans.

  57. #604785
    On January 28th, 2009 at 12:23 pm, cicerokid said:

    I saw this nutcracker experimenting with some sunlight reflective crap for shooting into space. Man’s direct intervention with the environment has never gone well.

  58. #604788
    On January 28th, 2009 at 12:23 pm, Bruce said:

    The next “expert” to testify … Ed Begley. His wife … not so much.

  59. #604791
    On January 28th, 2009 at 12:25 pm, Ed Mahmoud abu al-Kahoul said:

    Well, I honestly believe the trillion dollar stimulus wouldn’t have been half as bad if Juan McCain had won the election (no billions for ACORN or condoms, por ejemplo), but he shared Obama’s belief in global warming and carbon credits/limits/taxes.

    Instead of the 80% contraction of energy use (and our economy) Obama plans for the next 40 years (2050), I’m sure McCain would have only gone for 30 or 50%.

  60. #604801
    On January 28th, 2009 at 12:30 pm, cabrerski said:

    Emotional conviction 1, Logical thinking 0.

    As long as the ignorant MSM acts as aribiter, the chicken littles will always win. Besides, writing about hard facts and their obvious conclusions is boring. But telling an tear-jerking story about “disappearing” polar bears due to global warming (no other probabilites need apply) is always king.

    Congress just wants to spend our dough.

  61. #604803
    On January 28th, 2009 at 12:33 pm, cabrerski said:

    On January 28th, 2009 at 12:25 pm, Ed Mahmoud abu al-Kahoul said:

    Probably right Ed. Don’t think we can stop this runaway train since the electorate had no interest in replacing every member of Congress (even with single-digit approval rating).

  62. #604815
    On January 28th, 2009 at 12:43 pm, Danceswithdachshunds said:

    COME ON KERRY! Let’s hear your SPIN versus REAL SCIENTISTS like THESE-

    Award Winning Physicist Dr. Will Happer, Professor at the Department of Physics at Princeton University and Former Director of Energy Research at the Department of Energy, who has published over 200 scientific papers, and is a fellow of the American Physical Society, The American Association for the Advancement of Science, and the National Academy of Sciences said:

    I am convinced that the current alarm over carbon dioxide is mistaken…Fears about man-made global warming are unwarranted and are not based on good science.

    Prominent Hungarian Physicist and environmental researcher Dr. Miklós Zágoni reversed his view of man-made warming and is now a skeptic. Zágoni was once Hungary’s most outspoken supporter of the Kyoto Protocol and says:

    Nature’s regulatory instrument is water vapor: more carbon dioxide leads to less moisture in the air, keeping the overall GHG content in accord with the necessary balance conditions.

    Meteorologist Hajo Smit of Holland, who reversed his belief in man-made warming to become a skeptic and is a former member of the Dutch UN IPCC committee said:

    Gore prompted me to start delving into the science again and I quickly found myself solidly in the skeptic camp…Climate models can at best be useful for explaining climate changes after the fact

  63. #604826
    On January 28th, 2009 at 12:56 pm, Flyoverman said:

    On January 28th, 2009 at 12:15 pm, Danceswithdachshunds said:
    My favorite place to stay current on the fight against the global warming scam is http://icecap.us/

    HOW DARE YOU LOOK AT DATA!!

    Danceswithdachshunds,

    Forsake this reckless pursuit of objective analysis. Join us at the altar, confess your sins against Mother Earth, and then drink deeply from the Chalice of Sacred Kool Aid. You will feel so much comfort, even while your utility bills are, in the words of his son, The Annointed One, sky rocketing.

    If you choose to not change our ways, have a wonderful day anyway, you knuckle dragging, stupid, moron, biggotted, right wing extremist, racist, chauvanistic, selfish, bitter, gun toting, Bible thumping, Palin loving, homophobe.

    Don’t you just love a rational exchange with the Gorebots.

  64. #604832
    On January 28th, 2009 at 12:59 pm, cpodug said:

    Flyoverman said:

    Wish I’d said that :lol:

  65. #604844
    On January 28th, 2009 at 1:12 pm, Flyoverman said:

    cpodug,

    The Left can be irritating, but in a way very entertaining at times.

  66. #604855
    On January 28th, 2009 at 1:21 pm, MacEamonn said:

    So what is it going to take to shut these idiots up….a glacier rolling over their homes during the upcoming Ice Age?

  67. #604876
    On January 28th, 2009 at 1:37 pm, PKAmmoTroop said:

    No left wing know-it-alls pouncing on this thread denouncing us as heretics for questioning the Most Holy Church Of Climatology? DAMN! I’m hungry, I wanted to eat their lunch.

    In case they’re lurking and don’t have the courage of their convictions to try to defend their fairy tale story of doom and gloom, I have two words for them:

    Gleissberg Minimum

    “And to the naysayers and deniers still out there, let me add: A little snow in Washington does nothing to diminish the reality of this crisis,”

    To hell with you, you mental deficient. When I want to lubricate my snake I’ll come to you for the oil to do it, until then SHUT UP. Global temperatures are plummeting and have been since 1998, the solar output has never been lower, the Arctic and Antarctic ice packs have never been bigger or thicker since records have been kept. You and your ilk are screaming and crying that the 30 gigatons of carbon man puts in the atmosphere is going to cause us all to roast in hell when in reality it’s only 0.05% of the 550 gigatons of carbon that the earth puts into the atmosphere.

  68. #604885
    On January 28th, 2009 at 1:45 pm, Southpaw said:

    Sort of off-topic but related:
    Large Hadron Collider

    I may be irrational, and I am a big supporter of scientific research, but I’m starting to have a little misgiving about this project. If scientists are disputing the theories, perhaps some more discussion among scientists, politicians and religious leaders is warranted.

    Black Holes are the most distructive objects in the universe. I’d hate to see the Earth obliterated in an instant by a science project gone awry.

    I’m not a Chicken Little, but they better damn well be certain about this. Global warming would take decades, collapsing the Earth into a black hole would take seconds.

  69. #604937
    On January 28th, 2009 at 2:13 pm, backwoods conservative said:

    …collapsing the Earth into a black hole would take seconds.

    Any black hole created by the LHC would have a very small mass and would have no more gravity than any other object of the same mass. The intense gravitational effects black holes are so famous for would be confined to such a small area that the mini black would have to actually come into contact with something to suck it in. It would not have the effects over distance that a larger, more massive black hole would.

  70. #604941
    On January 28th, 2009 at 2:16 pm, sonofdy said:

    It would not have the effects over distance that a larger, more massive black hole would.

    They would only have to be wrong once. Wouldn’t hurt to double check the figures. They might have forgotten to carry a 1 or something.

  71. #604945
    On January 28th, 2009 at 2:18 pm, cpodug said:

    BWC: If it existed long enough to double its mass within a nanosecond or so, then you would have a new black hole, at double the size/mass. If this progressed at the rate of doubling every nanosecond, it wouldn’t take too long to gain critical mass and get out of control.

  72. #604947
    On January 28th, 2009 at 2:18 pm, FamilyMan said:

    It’s time to give up the earth.
    READ
    http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/01/090127163403.htm

  73. #604949
    On January 28th, 2009 at 2:19 pm, ahraley said:

    I am so tired of these two idiots.

  74. #604953
    On January 28th, 2009 at 2:22 pm, Southpaw said:

    Any black hole created by the LHC would have a very small mass and would have no more gravity than any other object of the same mass.

    Thanks backwoods. Don’t know why, but I was thinking about this last night and became a bit obsessed. I guess the paranoia is being generated by the economic black hole we are all being consumed by.

  75. #604956
    On January 28th, 2009 at 2:25 pm, backwoods conservative said:

    I think the people hyping the black hole stuff are engaging in fear mongering. Al Gore set a good example for them in that regard.

  76. #604958
    On January 28th, 2009 at 2:27 pm, allrsn said:

    Does any one know the web address for the petition signed by 34,000 (from 6 months ago) scientists calling Gore and his 100 scientists liers?

  77. #604959
    On January 28th, 2009 at 2:27 pm, Southpaw said:

    On January 28th, 2009 at 2:16 pm, sonofdy said:
    Wouldn’t hurt to double check the figures. They might have forgotten to carry a 1 or something.

    LOL LOL LOL

  78. #604962
    On January 28th, 2009 at 2:27 pm, allrsn said:

    I think it was posted here or at Hot Air. But I cannot find it.

  79. #604964
    On January 28th, 2009 at 2:29 pm, cpodug said:

    On January 28th, 2009 at 2:16 pm, sonofdy said:
    Wouldn’t hurt to double check the figures. They might have forgotten to carry a 1 or something.

    Maybe they were taught their math by lgm – oh, the horror!

  80. #604965
    On January 28th, 2009 at 2:29 pm, Danceswithdachshunds said:

    backwoods conservative said:

    Any black hole created by the LHC would have a very small mass and would have no more gravity than any other object of the same mass. The intense gravitational effects black holes are so famous for would be confined to such a small area that the mini black would have to actually come into contact with something to suck it in. It would not have the effects over distance that a larger, more massive black hole would.

    How does one confine a black hole? Let’s not forget that not only does it swallow mass – it swallows radiation. So it will slowly start heading for the center of the earth gobbling more and more mass as it goes. When it reaches the center it’s velocity will be a lot less than that of a free body in a vacuum because of the mass it took in along the way. As the mass at the center starts disappearing there will be massive earth quakes and the crust will start buckling as we shrink away to nothingness.

    My guess would be 10 to 15 minutes before you’ll feel the first earthquakes jolts and then we’ll have another minute or so left to live after that.

  81. #604970
    On January 28th, 2009 at 2:31 pm, Danceswithdachshunds said:
  82. #604981
    On January 28th, 2009 at 2:43 pm, thutmose18 said:

    “31,072 scientists who won’t be heard by Gore and Kerry”

    What about the millions of scientists that conservatives refuse to listen to?

  83. #604985
    On January 28th, 2009 at 2:45 pm, backwoods conservative said:

    On January 28th, 2009 at 2:29 pm, Danceswithdachshunds said:

    How does one confine a black hole? Let’s not forget that not only does it swallow mass – it swallows radiation. So it will slowly start heading for the center of the earth gobbling more and more mass as it goes.

    The question would be how would it get enough mass to grow? The mini black holes would be smaller than atoms. Atoms are mostly empty space. The actual particles are so tiny that the nucleus of an atom is akin to a BB suspended in air in a coliseum. That reduces the chances of the black hole actually encountering anything.

    So it will slowly start heading for the center of the earth gobbling more and more mass as it goes.

    No it wouldn’t. If the black hole were at rest it would sink to the center of the earth, but it wouldn’t be at rest. It would be traveling at a velocity that far exceeds the escape velocity of the Earth. The near-light speed velocities involved are why it takes such a large and expensive machine to achieve the collision energies the particle physicists need for their studies.

    The worry the scientists have with the possible one second decay time is that the mini black hole would have left the Earth before they had a chance to detect the decay of it.

  84. #605004
    On January 28th, 2009 at 3:00 pm, corkie said:

    On January 28th, 2009 at 2:43 pm, thutmose18 said:

    What about the millions of scientists that conservatives refuse to listen to?

    Scientists? That’s a stretch.

    Millions? That number sounds high.

    Whatever the number actually is – it’s shrinking every day as actual scientists head for the global warming exits. Better get aboard now, thutmose18 – before you look stupid. Soon, activists and politicians will be left holding the bag.

  85. #605006
    On January 28th, 2009 at 3:01 pm, rightwingrocker said:

    “And to the naysayers and deniers still out there, let me add: A little snow in Washington does nothing to diminish the reality of this crisis,” he said.

    HAHA

    Just a little CYA message from John Kerry there.

    RWR
    http://www.rightwingrocker.com

  86. #605033
    On January 28th, 2009 at 3:22 pm, nail49 said:

    What about the millions of scientists that conservatives refuse to listen to?

    thutmose18: Corkie got it right. Many of your “scientists” are people like Al Gore with his BA in government. Others include such luminaries as Leo DiCaprio with his high school diploma and his fellow jetsetting Hollyweirdos who are willing to sacrifice by us riding bikes so they can keep their limos and Gulfstreams.

  87. #605043
    On January 28th, 2009 at 3:31 pm, Dexter Alarius said:

    OMG! I just did some calculations! The average daytime temperature here has decreased around 10 degrees per month since August! If that trend continues, in less than 4 years the temperature will reach Absolute Zero!!!

    We’re DOOMED!!!

  88. #605047
    On January 28th, 2009 at 3:36 pm, cabrerski said:

    On January 28th, 2009 at 2:43 pm, thutmose18 said:

    What about the millions of scientists that conservatives refuse to listen to?

    You mean like the millions (?) of scientists whose jobs depend upon their research grants that favor global warmiing conclusions. The late Michael Crichton said it best:

    One proof of this suppression is the fact that so many of the outspoken critics of global warming are retired professors. These individuals are not longer seeking grants, and no longer have to face colleagues whose grant applications and career advancement may be jeopardized by their criticisms.

    In science, the old men are usually wrong. But in politics, the old men are wise, counsel caution, and in the end are often right.

    Dr. Crichton was an incredible free thinker and believed in responsibility to the environment. He did take exception to extreme environmentalism as a religion. Please feel free to read more about the lunacy of the global warming crowd at his website:

    http://www.crichton-official.com

  89. #605050
    On January 28th, 2009 at 3:37 pm, cpodug said:

    Impossibe – can’t happen – there will always be some background radiation in the universe that will prevent the temperature from ever reaching absolute zero … approach it, yes, definitely. I agree with your math

  90. #605051
    On January 28th, 2009 at 3:37 pm, nail49 said:

    We’re DOOMED!!!

    Dex: Not to worry! The amount of time we are bathed in sunlight has alarmingly been increasing two minutes every day since about the third week in December. At this rate, we will soon have sunshine 24 hours a day, so we will NOT freeze!

  91. #605052
    On January 28th, 2009 at 3:38 pm, Southpaw said:

    On January 28th, 2009 at 3:31 pm, Dexter Alarius said:

    OMG! I just did some calculations! The average daytime temperature here has decreased around 10 degrees per month since August! If that trend continues, in less than 4 years the temperature will reach Absolute Zero!!!

    We’re DOOMED!!!

    All I can say is thank God for Leap Days. Without them, in 600 years we would be having blizzards on the 4th of July and heat waves on Christmas.

  92. #605083
    On January 28th, 2009 at 4:02 pm, Jet Jaguar said:

    There’s no arguing with Demo-leftist homies. If the temperature goes up, it’s man-made global warming. If it goes down, it’s man-made global warming triggering an ice-age. If things seem to get better temperature-wise, it’ll be because the leftist effort that has already been made has turned the tide. So you see that no matter the scenario, it justifies bigger and more intrusive government to “protect us” from the next crises. Before you know it, the government will imprison/control us to protect us from ourselves, just like in the movie “I Robot”.

  93. #605125
    On January 28th, 2009 at 4:42 pm, TooMuchTime said:

    If the temperature goes up, it’s man-made global warming. If it goes down, it’s man-made global warming…

    This is why Ann Coulter called AGW “The philosophy of a madman.”

    My son had to write a paragraph on whether politics should intrude into science. The teacher realized he got help from me but the instructions said to ask your parents. His science teacher is a 100% global warming fanatic.

    I told him to write that politics are consensus and science is asking questions. They are complete opposites. I explained to him that Al Gore is not a scientist, he’s a politician. Which means he works on the principle of consensus. Which means, you will never get to the truth with consensus.

    Read this speech by Michael Crichton. I link it often because it shows that there are things we can control and things we can’t. “Climate Change” and “Global Warming” are two that we cannot control.

  94. #605130
    On January 28th, 2009 at 4:48 pm, allrsn said:

    On January 28th, 2009 at 2:43 pm, thutmose18 said:
    “31,072 scientists who won’t be heard by Gore and Kerry”

    What about the millions of scientists that conservatives refuse to listen to?

    do you mean al gores 100 scientists?

  95. #605135
    On January 28th, 2009 at 4:53 pm, Speakup said:

    “And to the naysayers and deniers still out there, let me add: A little snow in Washington does nothing to diminish the reality of this crisis,” he said.

    Maybe, but extra snow consecutively year after year does.

    One scientist at one committee hearing could stop this criminal grifter scheme dead with two words..Prove it!

    A validated Penguin opinion does not make.

  96. #605141
    On January 28th, 2009 at 5:01 pm, warden said:

    On January 28th, 2009 at 2:43 pm, thutmose18 said:
    What about the millions of scientists that conservatives refuse to listen to?

    It’s not conservatives who want all debate on the subject closed.

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