Rush responds

By Michelle Malkin  •  January 30, 2009 09:12 AM

MoveOn.org hasn’t moved on yet from demonizing Rush Limbaugh.

He responded to their latest attack ad last night on Mark Levin’s show.

Radio Equalizer Brian Maloney’s got the scoop.

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  1. #201
    On January 30th, 2009 at 11:40 am, rocketman said:

    Generals have always been a “mixed bag” of people. Officers with higher rank than Lt. Colonel tend to be politicians first. This gets them to higher rank.
    ***
    Most presidents have had a lot of problems finding the generals with real military skill and the FIRE IN THE BELLY needed to win. George Washington, Abraham Lincoln, President Franklin Roosevelt, and George Bush 43 all had problems getting the right generals into command.
    ***
    Possibly General Colin Powell fits in the politician class. I respect the man’s service to our country–but he seems to have gone “off the reservation” in the last few years.
    ***
    Generals like Washington, Grant, Sherman, Patton, and Petreas are few and far between.
    ***
    John Bibb

  2. #202
    On January 30th, 2009 at 11:41 am, frostrt said:

    On January 30th, 2009 at 11:38 am, Ilovemycountry said:
    It’s hard to tell who’s dumber – Rush or his listeners.

    ————————————–

    For someone who put the word “love” in your screen name, you sure have plenty of hate to go around, don’t you? If you have a point, make it. Otherwise, get gone.

  3. #203
    On January 30th, 2009 at 11:41 am, chapoutier said:

    The Democrats will be forced to run against against their own economic policy. That’s why they are refusing to own it in the here and now

    Huh?

    And FDR didn’t run in 1936 on the New Deal programs he started in 1933? Or are you saying that Republican support for the New Deal insulated him? If it is that, I have no idea how much support they gave him. Perhaps you do.

  4. #204
    On January 30th, 2009 at 11:41 am, Misscheryl said:

    I am amazed that Obama is MORE afraid of a conservative media figure than he is of a Republican politician

    not me because he knows Rush represents a huge segment of the population while the republican politicans do not.

  5. #205
    On January 30th, 2009 at 11:42 am, wighttrasch said:

    It’s hard to tell who’s dumber

    Not really: YOU

  6. #206
    On January 30th, 2009 at 11:44 am, DBNinKY said:

    Only because he became a – dare I say it – “war monger” President! Back then, people actually supported their country and its leader in times of war -

  7. #207
    On January 30th, 2009 at 11:44 am, CantCureStupid said:

    Excellent!! ilovemycountry has left the bridge long enough to post something which is neither conducive to the debate nor intelligent.

    I can continue my day now.

  8. #208
    On January 30th, 2009 at 11:44 am, Jet Jaguar said:

    On January 30th, 2009 at 9:51 am, lgm said:

    Limbaugh makes his livin’ large living goading people into hating Democrats.

    It is unfathomable how you, a college math teacher, can make such an absurd unintelligent statement. Please tell us that you know it is absurd and that you are just trying to “stir the pot”.

    I now can understand better how the U.S. has lost its edge in mathematics to other countries.

  9. #209
    On January 30th, 2009 at 11:45 am, love2rumba said:

    It’s hard to tell who’s dumber

    Oh please, ILoveMyCountry, that is an easy question -you are

  10. #210
    On January 30th, 2009 at 11:45 am, 30 pcs of silver said:

    On January 30th, 2009 at 11:38 am, Ilovemycountry said:
    It’s hard to tell who’s dumber – Rush or his listeners.

    That would be your hero, BHO! He’s the reason why we are discussing this, ya know!

  11. #211
    On January 30th, 2009 at 11:45 am, chapoutier said:

    You:

    So, you’re okay with voter registration fraud, as long as they don’t actually cast votes?

    Me:

    Well, actually voter rregistration fraud is bad too, so I do care.

    ACORN was obviously incentivizing people to get as many registrations as possible. Compounded with the fact that they were hiring less than trustworthy people and obviosuly had little quality control, was a huge problem. They deserve to be investigated top to bottom on this.

    None of this means that there was actual VOTING fraud perpetuated by them.

  12. #212
    On January 30th, 2009 at 11:45 am, Salt said:

    On January 30th, 2009 at 11:38 am, Ilovemycountry said:

    It’s hard to tell who’s dumber – Rush or his listeners.

    Anyone who says “it’s hard to tell who’s dumber” likely doesn’t have the intelligence to recognize ignorance.

    …but thanks for the empty emoting without substance.

    Hey, guys, newsflash: Ilovemycountry thinks successful conservative radio hosts who garner the attention of the President are really dumb.

    Oh, and Republicans have cooties!

  13. #213
    On January 30th, 2009 at 11:47 am, frontierguy said:

    My guess is he wants to show a good faith effort to engage them,

    Wow, that made me laugh.
    No, that is wrong, your guess is that Obama knows it is a bad bill and the dems are going to pay when America figures it out. If he gets a majority of the repubs to vote for it, he can insist that its Bush’s fault and it was a bipartisan bill. My guess is Obama is not going to sign it if the Repubs in the Senate all vote no. He is going to send it back and try to blame Nancy. This is going to be wicked fun, watching Pelosi and Obama duke it out. You can see no love is being formented between these two and both of them don’t know how to not run their mouths. The big question now is what flavor of popcorn I need, butter or cheesy kind…..Hahahaha, he wanted to give a good faith….nice one.

  14. #214
    On January 30th, 2009 at 11:49 am, FamilyMan said:

    OH GOODIE!
    Ilovemycountry is back to prove his manhood.

  15. #215
    On January 30th, 2009 at 11:49 am, frostrt said:

    On January 30th, 2009 at 11:45 am, Salt said:
    On January 30th, 2009 at 11:38 am, Ilovemycountry said:

    It’s hard to tell who’s dumber – Rush or his listeners.
    Anyone who says “it’s hard to tell who’s dumber” likely doesn’t have the intelligence to recognize ignorance.

    …but thanks for the empty emoting without substance.

    Hey, guys, newsflash: Ilovemycountry thinks successful conservative radio hosts who garner the attention of the President are really dumb.

    Oh, and Republicans have cooties!

    ————————————–

    ILMC forgot to add: “Neener neener neener”!

  16. #216
    On January 30th, 2009 at 11:50 am, DBNinKY said:

    …my point was he got reelected.

    Oops! Got distracted again; above is the ref for post #206.

    Only because he became a – dare I say it – “war monger” President! Back then, people actually supported their country and its leader in times of war -

  17. #217
    On January 30th, 2009 at 11:50 am, Lan Astaslem said:

    Ilovemycountry said:
    It’s hard to tell who’s dumber – Rush or his listeners.

    Ha! I obviously agree with all of those who said YOU are! Try reading this to enhance your knowledge. Page down to the “Knowledgeable News Audiences” section. Hmmm? Notice anything? Here’s the money quote in case you haven’t yet figured out how the tubes in the interwebs work:

    Judged by their answers to three news knowledge questions2, the most informed audiences belong to the political magazines [ed: Weekly Std / New Repub], Rush Limbaugh’s radio show, the O’Reilly Factor…

  18. #218
    On January 30th, 2009 at 11:52 am, MrOlympia said:

    I went to the DMC website and asked them to please, please keep mentioning Rush’s name. The LIB President, LIB Senators, LIB Congress, LIB drive-by media, LIB MOVEON.ORG, LIB etc., LIB etc., please keep Rush in the headlines.

    Rush kicks their ass every time! Its soooooooooo funny! They keep coming back for more. The LIBS never learn. HAHAHAHAHAHA LMAO

  19. #219
    On January 30th, 2009 at 11:52 am, purplepeep said:

    love2rumba said:
    I am amazed that Obama is MORE afraid of a conservative media figure than he is of a Republican politician.

    Rumba – What’s also amazing is we have the spectacle of a President and his entire party that’s even more afraid of owning their own economic legislation!

    Keeping that in mind, can you blame them for wanting to change the subject to radio hosts instead?

  20. #220
    On January 30th, 2009 at 11:52 am, 30 pcs of silver said:

    None of this means that there was actual VOTING fraud perpetuated by them.

    Talk about your implausible deniability.

    Anita MonCrief, an ACORN whistle-blower who worked for both it and its Project Vote registration affiliate from 2005 until early this year, agrees. “It’s ludicrous to say that fake registrations can’t become fraudulent votes,” she told me. “I assure you that if you can get them on the rolls you can get them to vote, especially using absentee ballots.” MonCrief, a 29-year old University of Alabama graduate who wanted to become part of the civil rights movement, worked as a strategic consultant for ACORN as well as a development associate with Project Vote and sat in on meetings with the national staffs of both groups. She has given me documents that back up many of her statements, including one that indicates that the goal of ACORN’s New Mexico affiliate was that only 40 percent of its submitted registrations had to be valid.

    MonCrief also told me that some ACORN affiliates had a conscious strategy of flooding voter registration offices with suspect last-minute forms in part to create confusion and chaos that would make it more likely suspect voters would be allowed to cast ballots by overworked officials.

    There are already documented examples of fraudulent registrations being converted into fraudulent votes in Ohio, where ACORN and other groups were active. Darrell Nash, an ACORN registration worker, submitted an illegal form for himself and then cast a paper ballot during the state’s “early voting” period.

  21. #221
    On January 30th, 2009 at 11:53 am, jsr said:

    On January 30th, 2009 at 11:38 am, Ilovemycountry said:
    It’s hard to tell who’s dumber – Rush or his listeners.

    I think what ILMC is trying to say is who is more opposed to liberalism. After all, this is how they define dumb.

  22. #222
    On January 30th, 2009 at 11:53 am, DBNinKY said:

    On January 30th, 2009 at 11:49 am, frostrt said:

    Right – Obama is using this as a distraction from the trillion dollars he and the Democrats are about to waste; otherwise, why is he talking to Rush instead of us, during these uncertain times.

  23. #223
    On January 30th, 2009 at 11:54 am, RabbidSquirrel said:

    On January 30th, 2009 at 10:43 am, Red State Skeptic said:

    You obviously have no idea how hurtful that song is to black people. I repeat: you are clueless as to how irrelevant you are.

    Thats the song that is hurtful to black people? That one….? Thats where you draw the line..

    So “The Man” has managed to keep all the black people in the world under his thumb for all of these years, because he is able to hurt someones feelings.

    Oh grow up, what are you 8 years old? Deal with it and get to a real problem.

    Why dont you talk bad about my momma or say that I cant dance. Maybe that will send me into a depression and now I can be a victim too.

    And Im tired of people whining that you cant tell these teenage girls that they are fat just because it might hurt their self-esteem. “Hey Princess… how you get your butt off the phone, stop playing Sims for 8 hours a day, quit stuffing your fatness with Cheetos and PopTarts and go outside to get some exercise for a while.”

  24. #224
    On January 30th, 2009 at 11:55 am, Lan Astaslem said:

    Chap — re: Acorn. You posted while I was typing, so I had not yet seen your assurance that you think voter registration fraud is bad too. You seemed to be dismissive of it in your earlier post. I’m glad to hear you think that they should be investigated for it. However, I think things should go a couple of steps farther. I think they should be investigated for ALL of the questionable tactics they use. Until that investigation is complete and any issues have been resolved and processes put in place to prevent future occurences, they should not receive another penny of taxpayer money. Period. Not. One. Penny.

  25. #225
    On January 30th, 2009 at 11:56 am, txvet2 said:

    On January 30th, 2009 at 11:45 am, chapoutier said:

    None of this means that there was actual VOTING fraud perpetuated by them.

    None of this means that there wasn’t, either. In fact, combining this with the Democrats’ adamant refusal to allow legislation requiring voters to produce picture ID, it’s a virtual recipe for fraud. As I’m quite sure you know.

  26. #226
    On January 30th, 2009 at 11:56 am, chapoutier said:

    Until that investigation is complete and any issues have been resolved and processes put in place to prevent future occurences, they should not receive another penny of taxpayer money. Period. Not. One. Penny.

    Okay. I am fine with this.

  27. #227
    On January 30th, 2009 at 11:56 am, Salt said:

    On January 30th, 2009 at 11:53 am, jsr said:

    I think what ILMC is trying to say is who is more opposed to liberalism. After all, this is how they define dumb.

    Could be. If this were a thread about Al Franken – a failed liberal radio host – he would tell us all how Al is really, really smart.

  28. #228
    On January 30th, 2009 at 12:00 pm, sonofdy said:

    Ilovemycountry is back to prove his manhood boyhood.

    Had to fix that for you.

  29. #229
    On January 30th, 2009 at 12:01 pm, frostrt said:

    On January 30th, 2009 at 11:56 am, Salt said:
    On January 30th, 2009 at 11:53 am, jsr said:

    I think what ILMC is trying to say is who is more opposed to liberalism. After all, this is how they define dumb.
    Could be. If this were a thread about Al Franken – a failed liberal radio host – he would tell us all how Al is really, really smart.

    ————————————–

    And, as you pointed out, the vast majority of people “really, really” didn’t want to listen to him. He and others like him are the reason lefties are pushing for the “fairness doctrine”. If that goes through on President Obama’s watch, he will lose a lot of moderates/independents who voted for him this time by 2012.

  30. #230
    On January 30th, 2009 at 12:02 pm, txvet2 said:

    On January 30th, 2009 at 11:55 am, Lan Astaslem said:

    Until that investigation is complete and any issues have been resolved and processes put in place to prevent future occurences, they should not receive another penny of taxpayer money. Period. Not. One. Penny.

    They shouldn’t be getting taxpayer money anyway. Soros can afford it more than we can.

  31. #231
    On January 30th, 2009 at 12:04 pm, Socky said:

    Let me vainly attempt to put left wing screeching points into a context of logic.

    Rush Limbaugh plays a song based on a column by a liberal journalist, and he’s the biggest racist evuh!

    The senior Democrat in the US Senate is a former klansman, but that’s no big deal.

    The Democrat president sign an executive order authorizing taxpayer dollars to be used to kill millions of black and brown babies, to the applause of the left.

    A left-wing economics adviser suggests that white men should not be eligible for the benefit of a government stimulus, and that isn’t considered racist.

  32. #232
    On January 30th, 2009 at 12:05 pm, purplepeep said:

    chapoutier said:

    “The Democrats will be forced to run against against their own economic policy. That’s why they are refusing to own it in the here and now.”

    Huh?

    And FDR didn’t run in 1936

    We’re talking the political realities of the here and now, Chappy. The Democrats and 2010 (and beyond). Knowing it will cause a disaster of massive proportion, they are terrified of owning their ecomonics now. They realize they will have to do battle against their own failed plan in 2010-beyond, if not take on Obama himself.

    Now, you may assert that folks will turn to the poisoner for the the andidote, but I don’t think that’s a realistic hope. Think Jimmy Carter. or you may think of the perception of GHW Bush. One termers both, due to ecomonics. (and, in Carter’s case, his failure to stand up to Iran – another Jimmy-error Obama is hellbent on duplicating.)

  33. #233
    On January 30th, 2009 at 12:05 pm, hunter said:

    On January 30th, 2009 at 10:43 am, Red State Skeptic said:

    You obviously have no idea how hurtful that song is to black people. I repeat: you are clueless as to how irrelevant you are.

    Don’t you think the black hip-hop culture and music is far more, and actually hurtful to black people, than a parody?

  34. #234
    On January 30th, 2009 at 12:06 pm, Socky said:

    On January 30th, 2009 at 11:52 am, 30 pcs of silver said:

    The denial of wrongdoing defense has just been PWNED!

  35. #235
    On January 30th, 2009 at 12:07 pm, frontierguy said:

    That means cast, mind you voter registration fraud, such as it may be is not the same thing.

    Voter registration fraud is needed by the democrats because during recounts the first thing that is done is the total number of votes cast is compared to total number of registrations. If the number is more, then a careful audit needs to be done. If the number is less, then democrat poll workers who forgot that 250 ballots in their car were not counted get to get those in without much question. I’m tired of liberals trying this voter registration fraud is no big deal type bull. How unproffesional do you guys want to be?

  36. #236
    On January 30th, 2009 at 12:08 pm, DBNinKY said:

    And FDR didn’t run in 1936 on the New Deal programs he started in 1933?

    He ran and won on the pretext of acting to help the American people – not on the supposed success of these stupid programs, as you would have us believe. (Come on, three years success for a gov program? You’re kidding!)

    Likewise, the Depression of the thirties was harder than what we have now because then, there were NO social safety nets, i.e., food stamps, welfare,etc., and the dust bowl limited crop production.

    Just read the paper, or your favorite news site, the Democrats will want no part of this “stimulus” bill come 2012. And the American people will want no part of the Democrats!

  37. #237
    On January 30th, 2009 at 12:08 pm, J S Ragman said:

    On January 30th, 2009 at 11:47 am, frontierguy said:

    No, that is wrong, your guess is that Obama knows it is a bad bill and the dems are going to pay when America figures it out.

    My guess is that BHO had an easier time putting things over on the people of Illinois than he will on all of America. I mean, look who they elected governor.

    What did Lincoln say? “You can fool some of the people all of the time, and . . .”

  38. #238
    On January 30th, 2009 at 12:12 pm, purplepeep said:

    J S Ragman said:
    My guess is that BHO had an easier time putting things over on the people of Illinois than he will on all of America. I mean, look who they elected governor.

    Ohhh, yes. Indeed.

  39. #239
    On January 30th, 2009 at 12:13 pm, iamgman said:

    Yeah…that’s usually what conspiracy nuts say. Verrrry convenient to not actually have to prove anything.

    Chap,

    While it is true that there is no smoking gun in the Jack Ryan divorce papers unsealing, you do have to wonder when the tactic is used 3 times against his opponents.

    First against his Democrat primary opponent. Then against Ryan. And finally trying to link Sarah Palin to her ex-partners divorce. Twice I can see as a coincidence. Three times is a pattern.

  40. #240
    On January 30th, 2009 at 12:13 pm, Salt said:

    On January 30th, 2009 at 12:08 pm, J S Ragman said:

    On January 30th, 2009 at 11:47 am, frontierguy said:

    No, that is wrong, your guess is that Obama knows it is a bad bill and the dems are going to pay when America figures it out.

    My guess is that BHO had an easier time putting things over on the people of Illinois than he will on all of America. I mean, look who they elected governor.

    Blame Chicago for that, not all of Illinois. Our now ex governor couldn’t stand to actually live in Springfield.

  41. #241
    On January 30th, 2009 at 12:17 pm, BlameAmericaLast said:

    There are already documented examples of fraudulent registrations being converted into fraudulent votes in Ohio, where ACORN and other groups were active. Darrell Nash, an ACORN registration worker, submitted an illegal form for himself and then cast a paper ballot during the state’s “early voting” period.

    And a willing and able partisan Democrat Secretary of State who sued in court to make sure this would continue to happen. And it did.

  42. #242
    On January 30th, 2009 at 12:20 pm, 30 pcs of silver said:

    On January 30th, 2009 at 12:06 pm, Socky said:

    On January 30th, 2009 at 11:52 am, 30 pcs of silver said:

    The denial of wrongdoing defense has just been PWNED!

    Thank you. Thank you very much.

  43. #243
    On January 30th, 2009 at 12:21 pm, 30 pcs of silver said:

    And a willing and able partisan Democrat Secretary of State who sued in court to make sure this would continue to happen. And it did.

    Yep!

  44. #244
    On January 30th, 2009 at 12:22 pm, J S Ragman said:

    #240 Salt

    Point well taken. Nothing personal.

  45. #245
    On January 30th, 2009 at 12:23 pm, AlohaGuy said:

    And FDR didn’t run in 1936 on the New Deal programs he started in 1933?

    Sadly, FDR’s programs made the depression last longer…

  46. #246
    On January 30th, 2009 at 12:29 pm, FamilyMan said:

    Until that investigation is complete and any issues have been resolved and processes put in place to prevent future occurences, they should not receive another penny of taxpayer money. Period. Not. One. Penny.

    No activist group should ever receive federal money.

  47. #247
    On January 30th, 2009 at 12:39 pm, PKAmmoTroop said:

    On January 30th, 2009 at 12:23 pm, AlohaGuy said:

    And FDR didn’t run in 1936 on the New Deal programs he started in 1933?

    Sadly, FDR’s programs made the depression last longer…

    The great depression and the spy scandals that followed WWI – both caused by FDR’s arrogance – are perfect examples of what happens when the country blindly follows a cult of personality.

    For having their hands around the throat of education so firmly, the left proves daily that they are incapable of learning from past experience.

  48. #248
    On January 30th, 2009 at 12:47 pm, Red State Skeptic said:

    Don’t you think the black hip-hop culture and music is far more, and actually hurtful to black people, than a parody?

    No, I don’t. That is an absurd question. I am a rap listener, and I feel that in addition to having better quality and more nuance than any other form of music today, there is nothing in the least objectionable about it. The black community hasn’t gone down the tubes like people predicted when gangsta rap came around; in fact, it is even more prosperous with less drug addiction and fewer teen pregnancies since then (not to credit gangsta rap with the positive changes, but it certainly hasn’t been a negative).

    People said the same thing about James Cagney movies in the 30s, that they would be the downfall of the next generation, which just seems comical today. Similarly, and contrary to the opinion of so many white people who view black people as far more easily led, black folks understand the difference between the G life in a Rick Ross song and real life.

  49. #249
    On January 30th, 2009 at 12:51 pm, AlohaGuy said:

    I feel that in addition to having better quality and more nuance than any other form of music today, there is nothing in the least objectionable about it.

    LOL

  50. #250
    On January 30th, 2009 at 12:52 pm, Red State Skeptic said:

    A left-wing economics adviser suggests that white men should not be eligible for the benefit of a government stimulus, and that isn’t considered racist.

    He didn’t say that at all. He said they shouldn’t be the *only* recipients of stimulus benefits.

  51. #251
    On January 30th, 2009 at 12:53 pm, theporch said:

    Let’s not forget about the Black Panther doing their intimidation thing during the voting.

  52. #252
    On January 30th, 2009 at 12:58 pm, granite said:

    On January 30th, 2009 at 12:51 pm, AlohaGuy said:

    I feel that in addition to having better quality and more nuance than any other form of music today, there is nothing in the least objectionable about it.

    LOL

    I second that LOL, AG.
    I had to read that post twice, because I did not believe it the first time.

    If that material is referred to as “music”, then it looks as if definitions have been rendered meaningless.

  53. #253
    On January 30th, 2009 at 1:06 pm, Red State Skeptic said:

    If that material is referred to as “music”, then it looks as if definitions have been rendered meaningless.

    They said the same about rock and roll and just about every other new kind of music. Why do you think you’re any less clueless?

  54. #254
    On January 30th, 2009 at 1:11 pm, sonofdy said:

    Wait, you LIKE rap???? That explains alot. It is the most simplistic “art” form I can think of. You basicaly yell in a mike and swear alot.

    UGH.

  55. #255
    On January 30th, 2009 at 1:23 pm, granite said:

    They said the same about rock and roll and just about every other new kind of music. Why do you think you’re any less clueless?

    I can now, and have for many years, seen the connection, the sort of evolution or development, if you will, of rock ‘n’ roll and rhythm & blues from jazz and swing (which itself I had read described as the meeting of jazz and classical music).
    I can easily see Count Basie playing with the Allman Brothers on a number of their tunes, for example; and conversely, can easily see Gregg Allman playing with Count Basie’s band on a number of their tunes.

    There is no – absolutely none – imaginable connection between actual music, and the thing called rap.

    If you believe there is, then you have no conception of what constitutes music…perhaps because you were born after the disaster that we call the 60s, and have been damaged by our “education” system, and by the sewer/chaos that our society/culture has become.

    On January 30th, 2009 at 1:11 pm, sonofdy said:

    …rap???? …You basicaly yell in a mike and swear alot.

    There’s a very good answer for you in a nutshell.

  56. #256
    On January 30th, 2009 at 1:24 pm, Weary Citizen said:

    No activist group should ever receive federal money.

    I second that. Why are there no conservative activist groups being given $? It’s always the lib groups (ACORN, La Raza, NAACP, etc) that get pork $ from the gov’t which is then used to sue the taxpayers at every turn. And the idiot GOP always lets the dems get away with it. Financing our own demise.

  57. #257
    On January 30th, 2009 at 1:28 pm, granite said:

    On January 30th, 2009 at 1:24 pm, Weary Citizen said:

    Financing our own demise.

    I am really tired of working like a chump (I’m a doc, but I’m still working like a chump) and being bled by yet another new parasite every time I turn around.

  58. #258
    On January 30th, 2009 at 1:35 pm, John Deaux said:

    On January 30th, 2009 at 11:38 am, Ilovemycountry said:
    It’s hard to tell who’s dumber – Rush Ilovemycountry or his listenersRed State Skeptic.

    Fixed it for ya.

  59. #259
    On January 30th, 2009 at 1:44 pm, Ed Mahmoud abu al-Kahoul said:

    No, I don’t. That is an absurd question. I am a rap listener, and I feel that in addition to having better quality and more nuance than any other form of music today, there is nothing in the least objectionable about it.

    That is a joke, right?

    Put my tongue in her mouth how I do
    Me Freaky Tah nothing to
    Spig Nice, Cheeks, and Pretty Lou.
    Microphone checka for the 1 & 2
    Walked away and god rule
    Freaky Tah walk through your avenue
    What the xxxx do you think I’m gonna do
    Smoke my weed, and I drink warm brew
    You know I do what I do, hahh no clue
    On my own my man.
    Niggaz run when I’m bad to the bone my man
    Cats better leave me alone my man
    Freaky Tah in his own rap zone my man
    One shot till come through your whole block my man,
    don’t stop my man
    Yo I’m still runnin from the cop my man
    Why I do what I do my man?
    Freaky Tah for my L-B to my man
    One time for your brain
    Nigga bring the thunder and rain
    It’s no shame to my game
    Freaky Tah is my m0therf*ckin name
    If you don’t know now you do
    Word to mother if you come through try you
    Pass by you look you in your eye true
    Freaky Tah this is how I do
    One time
    Want it nah nah nah nah nah nah na na now now now
    I I I IIIII I did it for you what you see is what you do now

  60. #260
    On January 30th, 2009 at 1:46 pm, JHSII said:

    So, Red State Skeptic considers rap to be music. Well, that explains everything…

    You know, they have medication for thet…

  61. #261
    On January 30th, 2009 at 1:46 pm, Red State Skeptic said:

    There is no – absolutely none – imaginable connection between actual music, and the thing called rap.

    Actually, about half of rap music is based on either soul, funk or jazz samples, or is original music in the vein of soul, funk or jazz. There are a lot of rap “heads” who feel that the purest rap music is that of The Roots who play live funk and soul music. I actually prefer well-used samples because it takes music that I already love (I am a huge fan of jazz, soul and funk) and makes something new out of it.

    I understand why you don’t hear the same thing I do. People have a hard time getting into the music of younger generations. Hell, I’m only 30, and except for some rap, I can’t stand what “the kids” are listening to these days. And people my age won’t even listen to a lot of music of our time if we grew up listening to something completely different (country, classic rock, whatever).

  62. #262
    On January 30th, 2009 at 1:57 pm, Ed Mahmoud abu al-Kahoul said:

    Rap has strong roots in Jamaican “toasting”. Sadly, what once was good music, ‘dancehall’, gets closer and closer to its bastard American cousin rap.

    IMHO.

    Actually, I think Empty-Vee, CMT and variants have ruined music. Country music is now soft pablum rock, with the physical appearance of the artist more important than the music, and Empty-Vee, back when they actually played music, started that trend in rock and pop music.

    Granted, I don’t intentionally listen to much rap. I do know if I fill up at the cheapo gas station “Race-Trak” it is almost inevitable that some person of African-American heritage will pull in booming the music full of f-bombs and “niggaz” with the windows down, an obvious attempt to annoy and assault the decent citizens filling up.

    But I haven’t heard nuanced music yet booming from the open windows of an African-American’s car yet.

    I’m sure when they all start going deaf in their 30s from listening to 130 db crap in their cars I and the rest of the American taxpayers will start paying for their disability.

  63. #263
    On January 30th, 2009 at 2:00 pm, Red State Skeptic said:

    On January 30th, 2009 at 1:44 pm, Ed Mahmoud abu al-Kahoul said:

    I don’t even know that song, but rap music is as much fiction as Star Trek and people know the difference. Some rappers have crime raps, but most don’t. Lil Wayne is the biggest rapper in the world — he has tear drop tattoos (which in the real world mean you’ve either killed a man or spent jail time) but none of his fans believe for a second that he’s a real gangsta. They spin tales of the G life that are a cops and robbers fantasy… just like James Cagney. Tell me where the difference is.

  64. #264
    On January 30th, 2009 at 2:03 pm, jsr said:

    On January 30th, 2009 at 1:46 pm, Red State Skeptic said:

    Actually, about half of rap music is based on either soul, funk or jazz samples, or is original music in the vein of soul, funk or jazz.

    I have heard that from defenders of rap before but cannot figure out what they are talking about. (I admittedly know very little about rap music except that I find it extremely irritating. On the other hand I do read and play music and know a few things about music theory.) Are you refering to some of the intros where a more mellow song morphes into a rap song and fades in and out throughout the song? If so, I have a hard time saying that an intro by, say BB King ( I think I have heard one), would make the song based on blues. I can remember a few old rock songs that had a short intro that was a piece of classical music and then was followed by a blast of heavy metal. That hardly makes the heavy metal song based on classical music. Just because two songs share a time signature and and musical key does not make them related.

  65. #265
    On January 30th, 2009 at 2:08 pm, granite said:

    What is this with Jimmy Cagney?

    Link:

    http://www.tcm.com/thismonth/article/?cid=31285&mainArticleId=184891

    I’d never heard that James Cagney affected a gangster persona off screen.

    Now, George Raft might be another matter…

    Link:

    http://www.leninimports.com/george_raft.html

  66. #266
    On January 30th, 2009 at 2:11 pm, jsmiddleton4 said:

    “ACORN was obviously incentivizing people…”

    From a post on page 1. Is that the same as bribing? Just checking…

  67. #267
    On January 30th, 2009 at 2:14 pm, jsmiddleton4 said:

    When the news told us that the President made a comment about Rush Limbaugh I posted that the President doing so is a sure sing of his impending doom. That such a statement is evidence of desperation. Not so sure I had much agreement. However now it appears I was probably closer to the truth than not. His stimulus package is falling apart. With it any sense of bi-partisianship has been destroyed. Any sense of being a great uniter has been destroyed. Any hint that he is anything but a leftist socialist has been destroyed. I dare say all in all, a very good start for us conservatives. Very good indeed.

  68. #268
    On January 30th, 2009 at 2:30 pm, Flyoverman said:

    On January 30th, 2009 at 2:14 pm, jsmiddleton4 said:
    When the news told us that the President made a comment about Rush Limbaugh I posted that the President doing so is a sure sign of his impending doom.

    Maybe not doom…. just yet, but certainly weakness.

    I always enjoy comments from people who call Rush Limbaugh “dumb.” This is a man who started out with nothing and is now a multi-millionaire. He may be many things, but dumb is not one of them.

    I have nothing in common with George Soros and I consider him a threat to my way of life. But I would never call a man like Soros dumb. He came to this country with nothing and look at what he’s accomplished.

    You don’t have to agree with them or even like them, but if your honest with yourself, you will respect them.

  69. #269
    On January 30th, 2009 at 2:31 pm, jsmiddleton4 said:

    Rap music=James Cagney? Are you serious?

    If so you know nothing about James Cagney as a man nor as an actor and all the movies he appeared in.

  70. #270
    On January 30th, 2009 at 2:33 pm, jsmiddleton4 said:

    “George Soros and I consider him a threat to my way of life…”

    Yep and he is positioned to make a ton of money when our freedom is restricted by the likes of his philosophy of government. The man is a huge threat and a hypocrite. Talk about conflicts of interest…..

  71. #271
    On January 30th, 2009 at 2:36 pm, jsmiddleton4 said:

    “Maybe not doom…. just yet, but certainly weakness.”

    In many ways President Obama and our economy have much in common. If you pull out one piece of it, the entire system comes tumbling down. Obama is not a piece of this, a piece of that, so if one piece doesn’t work, he is okay because of the rest of the pieces. Our economy has demonstrated it is a system, impede one piece you bring the whole thing down.

    Obama’s house of cards will fall apart if he has any major failures in any one significant piece.

    Going to be interesting to watch.

  72. #272
    On January 30th, 2009 at 2:37 pm, PKAmmoTroop said:

    On January 30th, 2009 at 2:00 pm, Red State Skeptic said:

    They spin tales of the G life that are a cops and robbers fantasy… just like James Cagney. Tell me where the difference is.

    I’ll tell you the similarity; when Jimmy Cagney was making those ‘gangsta’ movies he was an incredibly liberal democrat. Same as any punk piece of trash rapper.

    Fortunately, like the few other intelligent people in Hollywood (Ronald Reagan, Ron Silver, Dennis Miller) he woke up and realized what was going on around him. He became a conservative and his films took on a more Pro-American stance. In fact the movie “Yankee Doodle Dandy” was intended as a direct slap in the face to people who thought he was still a liberal communist sympathizer.

    Unfortunately rappers don’t get the chance to mature. They usually end up face down in a rain soaked street in a widening pool of blood before they can politically mature. Maturation, politically or emotionally, is a rarity in Hollywood regardless.

  73. #273
    On January 30th, 2009 at 2:43 pm, xblade said:

    On January 30th, 2009 at 11:38 am, Ilovemycountry said:
    It’s hard to tell who’s dumber – Rush or his listeners.

    It’s pretty easy to tell who the dumbest of all are though…..liberals like yourself, no doubt about it.

  74. #274
    On January 30th, 2009 at 2:44 pm, Red State Skeptic said:

    I have heard that from defenders of rap before but cannot figure out what they are talking about. (I admittedly know very little about rap music except that I find it extremely irritating. On the other hand I do read and play music and know a few things about music theory.) Are you refering to some of the intros where a more mellow song morphes into a rap song and fades in and out throughout the song? If so, I have a hard time saying that an intro by, say BB King ( I think I have heard one), would make the song based on blues. I can remember a few old rock songs that had a short intro that was a piece of classical music and then was followed by a blast of heavy metal. That hardly makes the heavy metal song based on classical music. Just because two songs share a time signature and and musical key does not make them related.

    No, I mean the whole song is rapped over samples or live music.

    For example, the Geto Boys’s “Mind Playing Tricks on Me,” which is for my money the greatest rap song ever made, is rapped over layered Isaac Hayes samples.

  75. #275
    On January 30th, 2009 at 2:46 pm, jsmiddleton4 said:

    Yankee Doodle Dandy (1942) is ranked #88 on the American Film Institute’s 100 Most Inspiring Movies of All Time.

    http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0035575/

    The idea that “liberal” Democrat from the 30′s and 40′s is the same as today’s liberal democrat is absurd.

    There is absolutely no significant similarity between James Cagney and today’s rap industry.

    Awarded the Presidential Medal of Freedom by Ronald Reagan at a ceremony at the White House on 26 March 1984.

    “Learn your lines, find your mark, look ‘em in the eye and tell ‘em the truth.” James Cagney

  76. #276
    On January 30th, 2009 at 2:58 pm, Red State Skeptic said:

    The idea that “liberal” Democrat from the 30’s and 40’s is the same as today’s liberal democrat is absurd.

    You’re missing the point entirely. This has nothing to do with anyone’s politics. James Cagney made gangster movies that were decried for encouraging violence. At the time, the public hadn’t seen anything like them, but those accusations today are ridiculous. They are stories, and no one is going to join the mafia because of Edward G. Robinson. Similarly, all rappers do is tell stories about the gangsta life.

    Now tell me the difference.

  77. #277
    On January 30th, 2009 at 3:01 pm, jsmiddleton4 said:

    “You’re missing the point entirely.”

    Sorry but I am not. Any attempt to associate James Cagney with today’s rap music industry and rap stars is absurd. You can try and spin it any way you want but there is simply not enough similarity to make a connection designed to illustrate any point.

    I’ve wasted enough time on pointing out the absurdity of trying to do so.

    If you want to keep driving some point using Cagney=rap go ahead. Your call. As I’ve pointed out its a totally goofed idea but its your call to keep trying to do so or give it up.

  78. #278
    On January 30th, 2009 at 3:03 pm, jsmiddleton4 said:

    “…all rappers do is tell stories about the gangsta life.”

    So not only do you not have a clue about James Cagney, you have no clue about what rap is about IF you think that’s all it is.

  79. #279
    On January 30th, 2009 at 3:11 pm, Red State Skeptic said:

    “You’re missing the point entirely.”

    Sorry but I am not. Any attempt to associate James Cagney with today’s rap music industry and rap stars is absurd. You can try and spin it any way you want but there is simply not enough similarity to make a connection designed to illustrate any point.

    I’ve wasted enough time on pointing out the absurdity of trying to do so.

    You haven’t said anything at all except that I don’t know what I’m talking about (how many rap albums have you listened to ever?) and that James Cagney was once honored by Ronald Reagan, 50 years after he made most of his movies.

    Thanks for trying.

  80. #280
    On January 30th, 2009 at 3:13 pm, rooster said:

    On January 30th, 2009 at 11:56 am, chapoutier said:
    Until that investigation is complete and any issues have been resolved and processes put in place to prevent future occurences, they should not receive another penny of taxpayer money. Period. Not. One. Penny.
    Okay. I am fine with this.

    Wow chap, you’re actually not to the core a liberal clown! ACORN should not be getting one penny until all allegations are settled. Much like BO should never have been behind closed doors with any SCOTUS members until his citizenship fraud is once and for all proven. Proven that he truly is our “Kenyan Bastard in Chief”

  81. #281
    On January 30th, 2009 at 9:51 pm, emjem24 said:

    Red State Skeptic said:

    I understand why you don’t hear the same thing I do. People have a hard time getting into the music of younger generations. Hell, I’m only 30, and except for some rap, I can’t stand what “the kids” are listening to these days. And people my age won’t even listen to a lot of music of our time if we grew up listening to something completely different (country, classic rock, whatever).

    I just love how a so-called “young person” thinks that they’re somehow the official representative of our generation. I’m 33 years old and was a classical, competitive musician for most of my life, yet I was exposed to all types of music from opera and gypsy music to rock, jazz, and country. I think it’s particularly condescending that you think that other “young people” fall so easily in line with your own deluded thinking.

    Rap has become the bastardization of R & B and jazz. That’s the kindest I can say for that music genre. Overall, most Rap that I’ve heard or sampled over the years, and that’s through my exposure to the kids I used to teach in middle school and high school, sounds the same and has the same themes. It isn’t as versatile as you might think and is pretty recycled like the rest of what is considered popular music right now. Some see Rap as urban poetry that’s emblematic of life on the streets but it’s also pretty reflective of the moral/social decay that’s gone on in the black community. I find it interesting for someone who’s overconsumed on one musical genre that you forgot the emphasis in rap music on the exploitation of women, gang violence, lack of respect for one another, and overall just breakdown in one’s impulse control.

    And this whole notion that just because you grow up with one type of music and won’t listen to another type is ridiculous. I grew up with classical music at the height of the ’80′s where bands like Def Leppard was huge (and I’m a huge fan of theirs). However, their music was also highly sexual and something that even I wouldn’t defend- especially to a generation of kids right now that are so oversexualized as it is.

    I think human beings, from what I’ve found as a social historian, are versatile in their tastes of music. I think your attitude is more reflective of your own tastes than that of the rest of us. Anyone who has children will be exposed to a new generation of music, no matter how you try to filter it.

  82. #282
    On January 30th, 2009 at 10:10 pm, emjem24 said:

    Oops.

    My verb tense agreement not so hot tonight:

    I grew up with classical music at the height of the ’80’s where bands like Def Leppard was were huge (and I’m a huge fan of theirs).

    Perhaps, the lack of grammatical correctness in popular music has finally gotten to me. :oops:

  83. #283
    On January 31st, 2009 at 9:50 am, TK-421 said:

    @201

    I know what you mean, when did the USA turn into the USSR?

    Serriously most of our higher ranking Officers arn’t even good soldier, they are politicall reliable, thats the Term the Soviets used.

    I used to be in the ROTC program but I stoped as the Officers oath is not one I could acceapt. My Duty is not to the Goverment or a piece of paper. But to the people of our lands and seeing to it that they survive.

  84. #284
    On January 31st, 2009 at 10:42 am, DBNinKY said:

    He didn’t say that at all. He said they shouldn’t be the *only* recipients of stimulus benefits.

    That he felt inclined to say that at all is telling of his character, and indicates a racist mindset.

  85. #285
    On January 31st, 2009 at 11:35 am, DBNinKY said:

    January 30th, 2009 at 11:41 am, chapoutier said:

    And FDR didn’t run in 1936 on the New Deal programs he started in 1933?

    BTW, although poli-sci was never my forte, didn’t FDR cut it close with the popular vote in the `44 election, when unemployment was at or above 10%? If it hadn’t been for the war, FDR would have lost the presidency that year, due to the failure of his economic policies and the fact people still felt the pain of the Depression a decade later.

    I think that’s the path Obama is on for 2012 (losing the presidency) with his push for bailouts and lack of support for the war on terror.

    The coupling of these two will register with voters more than the MSM’s pro-Obama feel-goodiness.

  86. #286
    On January 31st, 2009 at 2:44 pm, chapoutier said:

    DBN:

    Here is the 1944 election result:

    Electoral vote 432 /99
    States carried 36 / 12
    Popular vote 25,612,916 /22,017,929
    Percentage 53.4%/ 45.9%

  87. #287
    On January 31st, 2009 at 7:40 pm, DBNinKY said:

    On January 31st, 2009 at 2:44 pm, chapoutier said:

    I stand by my original position – Obama will lose in 2012 if unemployment is hovering around ten percent; remember, by summer this becomes his economy in the minds of most Americans.

    And 25M to 22M is pretty darn close for a man who supposedly earned the gratitude of a nation near total starvation. FDR should and would have breezed through that election with >55% of the vote, had unemployment been positively impacted by his efforts. It was the war that saved him [FDR], and the war that brought back the US economy.

  88. #288
    On February 1st, 2009 at 7:02 pm, garydt said:

    Music of the thirtys and fortys was so much superior to what we have to endure for music today. Rap music is absolutely boring but thats my opinion. I am an oldtimer but I swear music gets worse as each generation passes since the 50′s. even country music isn’t the same as it was 5j0 to 60 years ago. Funny thing is that classical music is hundreds of years old and is still popular in some parts of the population.

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