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Generals have always been a “mixed bag” of people. Officers with higher rank than Lt. Colonel tend to be politicians first. This gets them to higher rank.
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Most presidents have had a lot of problems finding the generals with real military skill and the FIRE IN THE BELLY needed to win. George Washington, Abraham Lincoln, President Franklin Roosevelt, and George Bush 43 all had problems getting the right generals into command.
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Possibly General Colin Powell fits in the politician class. I respect the man’s service to our country–but he seems to have gone “off the reservation” in the last few years.
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Generals like Washington, Grant, Sherman, Patton, and Petreas are few and far between.
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John Bibb
On January 30th, 2009 at 11:38 am, Ilovemycountry said:
It’s hard to tell who’s dumber – Rush or his listeners.
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For someone who put the word “love” in your screen name, you sure have plenty of hate to go around, don’t you? If you have a point, make it. Otherwise, get gone.
Huh?
And FDR didn’t run in 1936 on the New Deal programs he started in 1933? Or are you saying that Republican support for the New Deal insulated him? If it is that, I have no idea how much support they gave him. Perhaps you do.
not me because he knows Rush represents a huge segment of the population while the republican politicans do not.
Not really: YOU
Only because he became a – dare I say it – “war monger” President! Back then, people actually supported their country and its leader in times of war -
Excellent!! ilovemycountry has left the bridge long enough to post something which is neither conducive to the debate nor intelligent.
I can continue my day now.
It is unfathomable how you, a college math teacher, can make such an absurd unintelligent statement. Please tell us that you know it is absurd and that you are just trying to “stir the pot”.
I now can understand better how the U.S. has lost its edge in mathematics to other countries.
Oh please, ILoveMyCountry, that is an easy question -you are
That would be your hero, BHO! He’s the reason why we are discussing this, ya know!
You:
Me:
ACORN was obviously incentivizing people to get as many registrations as possible. Compounded with the fact that they were hiring less than trustworthy people and obviosuly had little quality control, was a huge problem. They deserve to be investigated top to bottom on this.
None of this means that there was actual VOTING fraud perpetuated by them.
Anyone who says “it’s hard to tell who’s dumber” likely doesn’t have the intelligence to recognize ignorance.
…but thanks for the empty emoting without substance.
Hey, guys, newsflash: Ilovemycountry thinks successful conservative radio hosts who garner the attention of the President are really dumb.
Oh, and Republicans have cooties!
Wow, that made me laugh.
No, that is wrong, your guess is that Obama knows it is a bad bill and the dems are going to pay when America figures it out. If he gets a majority of the repubs to vote for it, he can insist that its Bush’s fault and it was a bipartisan bill. My guess is Obama is not going to sign it if the Repubs in the Senate all vote no. He is going to send it back and try to blame Nancy. This is going to be wicked fun, watching Pelosi and Obama duke it out. You can see no love is being formented between these two and both of them don’t know how to not run their mouths. The big question now is what flavor of popcorn I need, butter or cheesy kind…..Hahahaha, he wanted to give a good faith….nice one.
OH GOODIE!
Ilovemycountry is back to prove his manhood.
On January 30th, 2009 at 11:45 am, Salt said:
On January 30th, 2009 at 11:38 am, Ilovemycountry said:
It’s hard to tell who’s dumber – Rush or his listeners.
Anyone who says “it’s hard to tell who’s dumber” likely doesn’t have the intelligence to recognize ignorance.
…but thanks for the empty emoting without substance.
Hey, guys, newsflash: Ilovemycountry thinks successful conservative radio hosts who garner the attention of the President are really dumb.
Oh, and Republicans have cooties!
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ILMC forgot to add: “Neener neener neener”!
Oops! Got distracted again; above is the ref for post #206.
Ha! I obviously agree with all of those who said YOU are! Try reading this to enhance your knowledge. Page down to the “Knowledgeable News Audiences” section. Hmmm? Notice anything? Here’s the money quote in case you haven’t yet figured out how the tubes in the interwebs work:
I went to the DMC website and asked them to please, please keep mentioning Rush’s name. The LIB President, LIB Senators, LIB Congress, LIB drive-by media, LIB MOVEON.ORG, LIB etc., LIB etc., please keep Rush in the headlines.
Rush kicks their ass every time! Its soooooooooo funny! They keep coming back for more. The LIBS never learn. HAHAHAHAHAHA LMAO
Rumba – What’s also amazing is we have the spectacle of a President and his entire party that’s even more afraid of owning their own economic legislation!
Keeping that in mind, can you blame them for wanting to change the subject to radio hosts instead?
Talk about your implausible deniability.
I think what ILMC is trying to say is who is more opposed to liberalism. After all, this is how they define dumb.
Right – Obama is using this as a distraction from the trillion dollars he and the Democrats are about to waste; otherwise, why is he talking to Rush instead of us, during these uncertain times.
Thats the song that is hurtful to black people? That one….? Thats where you draw the line..
So “The Man” has managed to keep all the black people in the world under his thumb for all of these years, because he is able to hurt someones feelings.
Oh grow up, what are you 8 years old? Deal with it and get to a real problem.
Why dont you talk bad about my momma or say that I cant dance. Maybe that will send me into a depression and now I can be a victim too.
And Im tired of people whining that you cant tell these teenage girls that they are fat just because it might hurt their self-esteem. “Hey Princess… how you get your butt off the phone, stop playing Sims for 8 hours a day, quit stuffing your fatness with Cheetos and PopTarts and go outside to get some exercise for a while.”
Chap — re: Acorn. You posted while I was typing, so I had not yet seen your assurance that you think voter registration fraud is bad too. You seemed to be dismissive of it in your earlier post. I’m glad to hear you think that they should be investigated for it. However, I think things should go a couple of steps farther. I think they should be investigated for ALL of the questionable tactics they use. Until that investigation is complete and any issues have been resolved and processes put in place to prevent future occurences, they should not receive another penny of taxpayer money. Period. Not. One. Penny.
None of this means that there wasn’t, either. In fact, combining this with the Democrats’ adamant refusal to allow legislation requiring voters to produce picture ID, it’s a virtual recipe for fraud. As I’m quite sure you know.
Okay. I am fine with this.
Could be. If this were a thread about Al Franken – a failed liberal radio host – he would tell us all how Al is really, really smart.
Had to fix that for you.
On January 30th, 2009 at 11:56 am, Salt said:
On January 30th, 2009 at 11:53 am, jsr said:
I think what ILMC is trying to say is who is more opposed to liberalism. After all, this is how they define dumb.
Could be. If this were a thread about Al Franken – a failed liberal radio host – he would tell us all how Al is really, really smart.
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And, as you pointed out, the vast majority of people “really, really” didn’t want to listen to him. He and others like him are the reason lefties are pushing for the “fairness doctrine”. If that goes through on President Obama’s watch, he will lose a lot of moderates/independents who voted for him this time by 2012.
They shouldn’t be getting taxpayer money anyway. Soros can afford it more than we can.
Let me vainly attempt to put left wing screeching points into a context of logic.
Rush Limbaugh plays a song based on a column by a liberal journalist, and he’s the biggest racist evuh!
The senior Democrat in the US Senate is a former klansman, but that’s no big deal.
The Democrat president sign an executive order authorizing taxpayer dollars to be used to kill millions of black and brown babies, to the applause of the left.
A left-wing economics adviser suggests that white men should not be eligible for the benefit of a government stimulus, and that isn’t considered racist.
chapoutier said:
“The Democrats will be forced to run against against their own economic policy. That’s why they are refusing to own it in the here and now.”
We’re talking the political realities of the here and now, Chappy. The Democrats and 2010 (and beyond). Knowing it will cause a disaster of massive proportion, they are terrified of owning their ecomonics now. They realize they will have to do battle against their own failed plan in 2010-beyond, if not take on Obama himself.
Now, you may assert that folks will turn to the poisoner for the the andidote, but I don’t think that’s a realistic hope. Think Jimmy Carter. or you may think of the perception of GHW Bush. One termers both, due to ecomonics. (and, in Carter’s case, his failure to stand up to Iran – another Jimmy-error Obama is hellbent on duplicating.)
Don’t you think the black hip-hop culture and music is far more, and actually hurtful to black people, than a parody?
The denial of wrongdoing defense has just been PWNED!
Voter registration fraud is needed by the democrats because during recounts the first thing that is done is the total number of votes cast is compared to total number of registrations. If the number is more, then a careful audit needs to be done. If the number is less, then democrat poll workers who forgot that 250 ballots in their car were not counted get to get those in without much question. I’m tired of liberals trying this voter registration fraud is no big deal type bull. How unproffesional do you guys want to be?
He ran and won on the pretext of acting to help the American people – not on the supposed success of these stupid programs, as you would have us believe. (Come on, three years success for a gov program? You’re kidding!)
Likewise, the Depression of the thirties was harder than what we have now because then, there were NO social safety nets, i.e., food stamps, welfare,etc., and the dust bowl limited crop production.
Just read the paper, or your favorite news site, the Democrats will want no part of this “stimulus” bill come 2012. And the American people will want no part of the Democrats!
My guess is that BHO had an easier time putting things over on the people of Illinois than he will on all of America. I mean, look who they elected governor.
What did Lincoln say? “You can fool some of the people all of the time, and . . .”
Ohhh, yes. Indeed.
Chap,
While it is true that there is no smoking gun in the Jack Ryan divorce papers unsealing, you do have to wonder when the tactic is used 3 times against his opponents.
First against his Democrat primary opponent. Then against Ryan. And finally trying to link Sarah Palin to her ex-partners divorce. Twice I can see as a coincidence. Three times is a pattern.
Blame Chicago for that, not all of Illinois. Our now ex governor couldn’t stand to actually live in Springfield.
And a willing and able partisan Democrat Secretary of State who sued in court to make sure this would continue to happen. And it did.
Thank you. Thank you very much.
Yep!
#240 Salt
Point well taken. Nothing personal.
Sadly, FDR’s programs made the depression last longer…
No activist group should ever receive federal money.
The great depression and the spy scandals that followed WWI – both caused by FDR’s arrogance – are perfect examples of what happens when the country blindly follows a cult of personality.
For having their hands around the throat of education so firmly, the left proves daily that they are incapable of learning from past experience.
No, I don’t. That is an absurd question. I am a rap listener, and I feel that in addition to having better quality and more nuance than any other form of music today, there is nothing in the least objectionable about it. The black community hasn’t gone down the tubes like people predicted when gangsta rap came around; in fact, it is even more prosperous with less drug addiction and fewer teen pregnancies since then (not to credit gangsta rap with the positive changes, but it certainly hasn’t been a negative).
People said the same thing about James Cagney movies in the 30s, that they would be the downfall of the next generation, which just seems comical today. Similarly, and contrary to the opinion of so many white people who view black people as far more easily led, black folks understand the difference between the G life in a Rick Ross song and real life.
LOL
He didn’t say that at all. He said they shouldn’t be the *only* recipients of stimulus benefits.
Let’s not forget about the Black Panther doing their intimidation thing during the voting.
I second that LOL, AG.
I had to read that post twice, because I did not believe it the first time.
If that material is referred to as “music”, then it looks as if definitions have been rendered meaningless.
They said the same about rock and roll and just about every other new kind of music. Why do you think you’re any less clueless?
Wait, you LIKE rap???? That explains alot. It is the most simplistic “art” form I can think of. You basicaly yell in a mike and swear alot.
UGH.
I can now, and have for many years, seen the connection, the sort of evolution or development, if you will, of rock ‘n’ roll and rhythm & blues from jazz and swing (which itself I had read described as the meeting of jazz and classical music).
I can easily see Count Basie playing with the Allman Brothers on a number of their tunes, for example; and conversely, can easily see Gregg Allman playing with Count Basie’s band on a number of their tunes.
There is no – absolutely none – imaginable connection between actual music, and the thing called rap.
If you believe there is, then you have no conception of what constitutes music…perhaps because you were born after the disaster that we call the 60s, and have been damaged by our “education” system, and by the sewer/chaos that our society/culture has become.
There’s a very good answer for you in a nutshell.
I second that. Why are there no conservative activist groups being given $? It’s always the lib groups (ACORN, La Raza, NAACP, etc) that get pork $ from the gov’t which is then used to sue the taxpayers at every turn. And the idiot GOP always lets the dems get away with it. Financing our own demise.
I am really tired of working like a chump (I’m a doc, but I’m still working like a chump) and being bled by yet another new parasite every time I turn around.
Fixed it for ya.
That is a joke, right?
So, Red State Skeptic considers rap to be music. Well, that explains everything…
You know, they have medication for thet…
Actually, about half of rap music is based on either soul, funk or jazz samples, or is original music in the vein of soul, funk or jazz. There are a lot of rap “heads” who feel that the purest rap music is that of The Roots who play live funk and soul music. I actually prefer well-used samples because it takes music that I already love (I am a huge fan of jazz, soul and funk) and makes something new out of it.
I understand why you don’t hear the same thing I do. People have a hard time getting into the music of younger generations. Hell, I’m only 30, and except for some rap, I can’t stand what “the kids” are listening to these days. And people my age won’t even listen to a lot of music of our time if we grew up listening to something completely different (country, classic rock, whatever).
Rap has strong roots in Jamaican “toasting”. Sadly, what once was good music, ‘dancehall’, gets closer and closer to its bastard American cousin rap.
IMHO.
Actually, I think Empty-Vee, CMT and variants have ruined music. Country music is now soft pablum rock, with the physical appearance of the artist more important than the music, and Empty-Vee, back when they actually played music, started that trend in rock and pop music.
Granted, I don’t intentionally listen to much rap. I do know if I fill up at the cheapo gas station “Race-Trak” it is almost inevitable that some person of African-American heritage will pull in booming the music full of f-bombs and “niggaz” with the windows down, an obvious attempt to annoy and assault the decent citizens filling up.
But I haven’t heard nuanced music yet booming from the open windows of an African-American’s car yet.
I’m sure when they all start going deaf in their 30s from listening to 130 db crap in their cars I and the rest of the American taxpayers will start paying for their disability.
I don’t even know that song, but rap music is as much fiction as Star Trek and people know the difference. Some rappers have crime raps, but most don’t. Lil Wayne is the biggest rapper in the world — he has tear drop tattoos (which in the real world mean you’ve either killed a man or spent jail time) but none of his fans believe for a second that he’s a real gangsta. They spin tales of the G life that are a cops and robbers fantasy… just like James Cagney. Tell me where the difference is.
I have heard that from defenders of rap before but cannot figure out what they are talking about. (I admittedly know very little about rap music except that I find it extremely irritating. On the other hand I do read and play music and know a few things about music theory.) Are you refering to some of the intros where a more mellow song morphes into a rap song and fades in and out throughout the song? If so, I have a hard time saying that an intro by, say BB King ( I think I have heard one), would make the song based on blues. I can remember a few old rock songs that had a short intro that was a piece of classical music and then was followed by a blast of heavy metal. That hardly makes the heavy metal song based on classical music. Just because two songs share a time signature and and musical key does not make them related.
What is this with Jimmy Cagney?
Link:
http://www.tcm.com/thismonth/article/?cid=31285&mainArticleId=184891
I’d never heard that James Cagney affected a gangster persona off screen.
Now, George Raft might be another matter…
Link:
http://www.leninimports.com/george_raft.html
“ACORN was obviously incentivizing people…”
From a post on page 1. Is that the same as bribing? Just checking…
When the news told us that the President made a comment about Rush Limbaugh I posted that the President doing so is a sure sing of his impending doom. That such a statement is evidence of desperation. Not so sure I had much agreement. However now it appears I was probably closer to the truth than not. His stimulus package is falling apart. With it any sense of bi-partisianship has been destroyed. Any sense of being a great uniter has been destroyed. Any hint that he is anything but a leftist socialist has been destroyed. I dare say all in all, a very good start for us conservatives. Very good indeed.
Maybe not doom…. just yet, but certainly weakness.
I always enjoy comments from people who call Rush Limbaugh “dumb.” This is a man who started out with nothing and is now a multi-millionaire. He may be many things, but dumb is not one of them.
I have nothing in common with George Soros and I consider him a threat to my way of life. But I would never call a man like Soros dumb. He came to this country with nothing and look at what he’s accomplished.
You don’t have to agree with them or even like them, but if your honest with yourself, you will respect them.
Rap music=James Cagney? Are you serious?
If so you know nothing about James Cagney as a man nor as an actor and all the movies he appeared in.
“George Soros and I consider him a threat to my way of life…”
Yep and he is positioned to make a ton of money when our freedom is restricted by the likes of his philosophy of government. The man is a huge threat and a hypocrite. Talk about conflicts of interest…..
“Maybe not doom…. just yet, but certainly weakness.”
In many ways President Obama and our economy have much in common. If you pull out one piece of it, the entire system comes tumbling down. Obama is not a piece of this, a piece of that, so if one piece doesn’t work, he is okay because of the rest of the pieces. Our economy has demonstrated it is a system, impede one piece you bring the whole thing down.
Obama’s house of cards will fall apart if he has any major failures in any one significant piece.
Going to be interesting to watch.
I’ll tell you the similarity; when Jimmy Cagney was making those ‘gangsta’ movies he was an incredibly liberal democrat. Same as any punk piece of trash rapper.
Fortunately, like the few other intelligent people in Hollywood (Ronald Reagan, Ron Silver, Dennis Miller) he woke up and realized what was going on around him. He became a conservative and his films took on a more Pro-American stance. In fact the movie “Yankee Doodle Dandy” was intended as a direct slap in the face to people who thought he was still a liberal communist sympathizer.
Unfortunately rappers don’t get the chance to mature. They usually end up face down in a rain soaked street in a widening pool of blood before they can politically mature. Maturation, politically or emotionally, is a rarity in Hollywood regardless.
It’s pretty easy to tell who the dumbest of all are though…..liberals like yourself, no doubt about it.
No, I mean the whole song is rapped over samples or live music.
For example, the Geto Boys’s “Mind Playing Tricks on Me,” which is for my money the greatest rap song ever made, is rapped over layered Isaac Hayes samples.
Yankee Doodle Dandy (1942) is ranked #88 on the American Film Institute’s 100 Most Inspiring Movies of All Time.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0035575/
The idea that “liberal” Democrat from the 30′s and 40′s is the same as today’s liberal democrat is absurd.
There is absolutely no significant similarity between James Cagney and today’s rap industry.
Awarded the Presidential Medal of Freedom by Ronald Reagan at a ceremony at the White House on 26 March 1984.
“Learn your lines, find your mark, look ‘em in the eye and tell ‘em the truth.” James Cagney
You’re missing the point entirely. This has nothing to do with anyone’s politics. James Cagney made gangster movies that were decried for encouraging violence. At the time, the public hadn’t seen anything like them, but those accusations today are ridiculous. They are stories, and no one is going to join the mafia because of Edward G. Robinson. Similarly, all rappers do is tell stories about the gangsta life.
Now tell me the difference.
“You’re missing the point entirely.”
Sorry but I am not. Any attempt to associate James Cagney with today’s rap music industry and rap stars is absurd. You can try and spin it any way you want but there is simply not enough similarity to make a connection designed to illustrate any point.
I’ve wasted enough time on pointing out the absurdity of trying to do so.
If you want to keep driving some point using Cagney=rap go ahead. Your call. As I’ve pointed out its a totally goofed idea but its your call to keep trying to do so or give it up.
“…all rappers do is tell stories about the gangsta life.”
So not only do you not have a clue about James Cagney, you have no clue about what rap is about IF you think that’s all it is.
You haven’t said anything at all except that I don’t know what I’m talking about (how many rap albums have you listened to ever?) and that James Cagney was once honored by Ronald Reagan, 50 years after he made most of his movies.
Thanks for trying.
Wow chap, you’re actually not to the core a liberal clown! ACORN should not be getting one penny until all allegations are settled. Much like BO should never have been behind closed doors with any SCOTUS members until his citizenship fraud is once and for all proven. Proven that he truly is our “Kenyan Bastard in Chief”
I just love how a so-called “young person” thinks that they’re somehow the official representative of our generation. I’m 33 years old and was a classical, competitive musician for most of my life, yet I was exposed to all types of music from opera and gypsy music to rock, jazz, and country. I think it’s particularly condescending that you think that other “young people” fall so easily in line with your own deluded thinking.
Rap has become the bastardization of R & B and jazz. That’s the kindest I can say for that music genre. Overall, most Rap that I’ve heard or sampled over the years, and that’s through my exposure to the kids I used to teach in middle school and high school, sounds the same and has the same themes. It isn’t as versatile as you might think and is pretty recycled like the rest of what is considered popular music right now. Some see Rap as urban poetry that’s emblematic of life on the streets but it’s also pretty reflective of the moral/social decay that’s gone on in the black community. I find it interesting for someone who’s overconsumed on one musical genre that you forgot the emphasis in rap music on the exploitation of women, gang violence, lack of respect for one another, and overall just breakdown in one’s impulse control.
And this whole notion that just because you grow up with one type of music and won’t listen to another type is ridiculous. I grew up with classical music at the height of the ’80′s where bands like Def Leppard was huge (and I’m a huge fan of theirs). However, their music was also highly sexual and something that even I wouldn’t defend- especially to a generation of kids right now that are so oversexualized as it is.
I think human beings, from what I’ve found as a social historian, are versatile in their tastes of music. I think your attitude is more reflective of your own tastes than that of the rest of us. Anyone who has children will be exposed to a new generation of music, no matter how you try to filter it.
Oops.
My verb tense agreement not so hot tonight:
Perhaps, the lack of grammatical correctness in popular music has finally gotten to me.
@201
I know what you mean, when did the USA turn into the USSR?
Serriously most of our higher ranking Officers arn’t even good soldier, they are politicall reliable, thats the Term the Soviets used.
I used to be in the ROTC program but I stoped as the Officers oath is not one I could acceapt. My Duty is not to the Goverment or a piece of paper. But to the people of our lands and seeing to it that they survive.
That he felt inclined to say that at all is telling of his character, and indicates a racist mindset.
January 30th, 2009 at 11:41 am, chapoutier said:
BTW, although poli-sci was never my forte, didn’t FDR cut it close with the popular vote in the `44 election, when unemployment was at or above 10%? If it hadn’t been for the war, FDR would have lost the presidency that year, due to the failure of his economic policies and the fact people still felt the pain of the Depression a decade later.
I think that’s the path Obama is on for 2012 (losing the presidency) with his push for bailouts and lack of support for the war on terror.
The coupling of these two will register with voters more than the MSM’s pro-Obama feel-goodiness.
DBN:
Here is the 1944 election result:
I stand by my original position – Obama will lose in 2012 if unemployment is hovering around ten percent; remember, by summer this becomes his economy in the minds of most Americans.
And 25M to 22M is pretty darn close for a man who supposedly earned the gratitude of a nation near total starvation. FDR should and would have breezed through that election with >55% of the vote, had unemployment been positively impacted by his efforts. It was the war that saved him [FDR], and the war that brought back the US economy.
Music of the thirtys and fortys was so much superior to what we have to endure for music today. Rap music is absolutely boring but thats my opinion. I am an oldtimer but I swear music gets worse as each generation passes since the 50′s. even country music isn’t the same as it was 5j0 to 60 years ago. Funny thing is that classical music is hundreds of years old and is still popular in some parts of the population.