On January 31st, 2009 at 2:44 pm, chapoutier said:

I stand by my original position – Obama will lose in 2012 if unemployment is hovering around ten percent; remember, by summer this becomes his economy in the minds of most Americans.

And 25M to 22M is pretty darn close for a man who supposedly earned the gratitude of a nation near total starvation. FDR should and would have breezed through that election with >55% of the vote, had unemployment been positively impacted by his efforts. It was the war that saved him [FDR], and the war that brought back the US economy.

Here is the 1944 election result:

Electoral vote 432 /99
States carried 36 / 12
Popular vote 25,612,916 /22,017,929
Percentage 53.4%/ 45.9%

And FDR didn’t run in 1936 on the New Deal programs he started in 1933?

BTW, although poli-sci was never my forte, didn’t FDR cut it close with the popular vote in the `44 election, when unemployment was at or above 10%? If it hadn’t been for the war, FDR would have lost the presidency that year, due to the failure of his economic policies and the fact people still felt the pain of the Depression a decade later.

I think that’s the path Obama is on for 2012 (losing the presidency) with his push for bailouts and lack of support for the war on terror.

The coupling of these two will register with voters more than the MSM’s pro-Obama feel-goodiness.

He didn’t say that at all. He said they shouldn’t be the *only* recipients of stimulus benefits.

That he felt inclined to say that at all is telling of his character, and indicates a racist mindset.

I know what you mean, when did the USA turn into the USSR?

Serriously most of our higher ranking Officers arn’t even good soldier, they are politicall reliable, thats the Term the Soviets used.

I used to be in the ROTC program but I stoped as the Officers oath is not one I could acceapt. My Duty is not to the Goverment or a piece of paper. But to the people of our lands and seeing to it that they survive.

My verb tense agreement not so hot tonight:

I grew up with classical music at the height of the ’80’s where bands like Def Leppard was were huge (and I’m a huge fan of theirs).

Perhaps, the lack of grammatical correctness in popular music has finally gotten to me.

Red State Skeptic said:

I understand why you don’t hear the same thing I do. People have a hard time getting into the music of younger generations. Hell, I’m only 30, and except for some rap, I can’t stand what “the kids” are listening to these days. And people my age won’t even listen to a lot of music of our time if we grew up listening to something completely different (country, classic rock, whatever).

I just love how a so-called “young person” thinks that they’re somehow the official representative of our generation. I’m 33 years old and was a classical, competitive musician for most of my life, yet I was exposed to all types of music from opera and gypsy music to rock, jazz, and country. I think it’s particularly condescending that you think that other “young people” fall so easily in line with your own deluded thinking.

Rap has become the bastardization of R & B and jazz. That’s the kindest I can say for that music genre. Overall, most Rap that I’ve heard or sampled over the years, and that’s through my exposure to the kids I used to teach in middle school and high school, sounds the same and has the same themes. It isn’t as versatile as you might think and is pretty recycled like the rest of what is considered popular music right now. Some see Rap as urban poetry that’s emblematic of life on the streets but it’s also pretty reflective of the moral/social decay that’s gone on in the black community. I find it interesting for someone who’s overconsumed on one musical genre that you forgot the emphasis in rap music on the exploitation of women, gang violence, lack of respect for one another, and overall just breakdown in one’s impulse control.

And this whole notion that just because you grow up with one type of music and won’t listen to another type is ridiculous. I grew up with classical music at the height of the ’80’s where bands like Def Leppard was huge (and I’m a huge fan of theirs). However, their music was also highly sexual and something that even I wouldn’t defend- especially to a generation of kids right now that are so oversexualized as it is.

I think human beings, from what I’ve found as a social historian, are versatile in their tastes of music. I think your attitude is more reflective of your own tastes than that of the rest of us. Anyone who has children will be exposed to a new generation of music, no matter how you try to filter it.

On January 30th, 2009 at 11:56 am, chapoutier said:
Until that investigation is complete and any issues have been resolved and processes put in place to prevent future occurences, they should not receive another penny of taxpayer money. Period. Not. One. Penny.
Okay. I am fine with this.

Wow chap, you’re actually not to the core a liberal clown! ACORN should not be getting one penny until all allegations are settled. Much like BO should never have been behind closed doors with any SCOTUS members until his citizenship fraud is once and for all proven. Proven that he truly is our “Kenyan Bastard in Chief”

“You’re missing the point entirely.”

Sorry but I am not. Any attempt to associate James Cagney with today’s rap music industry and rap stars is absurd. You can try and spin it any way you want but there is simply not enough similarity to make a connection designed to illustrate any point.

I’ve wasted enough time on pointing out the absurdity of trying to do so.

You haven’t said anything at all except that I don’t know what I’m talking about (how many rap albums have you listened to ever?) and that James Cagney was once honored by Ronald Reagan, 50 years after he made most of his movies.

Thanks for trying.

So not only do you not have a clue about James Cagney, you have no clue about what rap is about IF you think that’s all it is.

Sorry but I am not. Any attempt to associate James Cagney with today’s rap music industry and rap stars is absurd. You can try and spin it any way you want but there is simply not enough similarity to make a connection designed to illustrate any point.

I’ve wasted enough time on pointing out the absurdity of trying to do so.

If you want to keep driving some point using Cagney=rap go ahead. Your call. As I’ve pointed out its a totally goofed idea but its your call to keep trying to do so or give it up.